Tifo's All-Time Premier League XI
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If Tifo could pick their all-time Premier League (1992 - ) team what would it look like? Well, Seb Stafford-Bloor, JJ Bull, and Alex Stewart each pick a team. JJ looks for leaders, Seb has a system and Alex just has fun (with Gerrard at right-back…).
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I love Alex's commitment to being an agent of chaos in what he believes is a pointless exercise
His T-shirt really says it all.
Should of had Gerrard manage as well
the pointless exercise being life of course
OMG Alex is Professor Chaos 😂 But Seb is Butters. JJ has to be General Disarray and Joe is a natural Cartman
Seb: Alex do you have defenders?
Alex: Yes. Yes, I do.
Also Alex: *Steven Gerrard at RB*
To be honest, I actually have a similar theory for RB, but I would put Beckham there instead. Gerrard is far too complete to be wasted at RB. However, in the modern game, Beckham could definitely play the "Trent" role he was referring to, and probably do it better than Trent.
@@tharcisse7103 No, no. no, i want to recycle this thread here and now. I see your point in putting that amazingly passer and cross-bound midfielder into a situation where he can do that nearly all game long, but how can you say he'd do it better than Trent? You need resistance, speed, anticipation, marking and 3 sets of lungs to go with that kind of RB. No way, just no way, but hey that's your opinion.
@@nurcirino Beckham's work rate was underrated. He had better defensive awareness and determination than Trent.
Alex is an absolute madman. I’m two picks in and I’ve already lost my head 😂😂😂
I only got to goalkeepers before i got there 😂
He got me a Gerrard . Absolutely floored
The deathly silence from JJ and Seb at Alex picking Niemi killed me 😂😂
I love such XIs. You don’t need to pick the best player in every position, a balanced team keeping in mind the best players and also some emotion in it. If not, you’ll end up with the England “golden generation”.
Yes, love how it ignores any context and has over eager kids shout agressively at people about players they haven't actually seen play
Seb Stafford-Blur
Beat me to it :)
Ffs 😂😂
Was I the only one to imagine how Gary Neville hitting perfect crosses while sobbing due to the amount of stress he was put on by Peter Schmeichel when Seb mentioned that?
you made me laugh. thank you
"Sanpellegrino, in an overcoat pocket". Alex, that was brilliant 😄
Care to explain? I didn't understood that at all
@@brothatisfunny fancy fancy carrying of water
With Alex 100% on Antti Niemi, should’ve been in the Scotland squad, no idea why he wasn’t selected
He’s finished! 😉
He’s only 28!
they really let JJ down with that one, he set it up perfectly
Shearer was so good he made it into Seb’s team even after he picked Henry
I noticed that too
Alex's team would be a treat to watch lol. Absolute madness on the pitch.
I'm tempted to somehow build it on fifa just to lose my mind
Gerrard at Right Back is similar to a point I always think about, which is that David Beckham would definitely be a TAA style FB/WB in today's game.
Reckon Trent, Beckham and even Jordan Henderson are more or less the same player interpreted by different eras of the PL. Henderson being the one somewhat caught between two positions, being «too late» to be a classic whip-it-in winger and too early to be Trent. In the end he had a tough time before eventually becoming a mainstay in a weak Liverpool side that eventually grew to be a top CL winning side
@@madslarsen7309 Neither Beckham nor Henderson has TAA's pace, which is crucial for an attacking fullback.
Beckham was downright slow for a wide midfielder, let alone a FB. You should only look up how many times Roberto Carlos bombed forward in that 4-3 match as if Beckham wasn't even there.
Beckham and Henderson is a better comparison, although Hendo was a better runner, tackler and worker and Beckham had a far better technique, cross and a pair of eyes on him.
@@andrew7taylor trent is one of the slowest players at liverpool by far. Probably the only player slower in that Starting XI is Fabinho. I think even Alisson could give trent a run for his money in a footrace
@@amanb5727 but he literally can run all day without breaking a sweat.
@@andrew7taylor Beckham was basically just Marcos Alonso with a bit more technical ability and slightly less inanimate
Having watched enough of Tifo videos, I am convinced Alex could have made Scholes Lampard Gerrard work - heck he'd actually need more midfielders tbh
David Silva definitely played from 1999 to 2006 in premier league
Rooney 2nd most goals, second most assists in Premier League history. Played any position. Always put in a shift. Barely gets a whisper in anyone's team.
I would have put Rooney instead of Cantona for both Seb and Alex's teams. Harder to fit him into JJs system.
Most under rated player in Premier league history, easily top 3 for best of all time and never ever gets a mention, criminal
A mank and a toffee. A manfee? Tofank? So a no, for me.
Rooney is an interesting. Rooney has had a wonderful career where he has won a lot. Although, a generous mark would be 7/10 for fulfilling his potential. Rooney seemed to peak at his beginning never got better over the course of his career, arguably 2009 to 2012 was his most productive when both Ronaldo and Tevez were out of the picture. Rooney scored more than 20 league goals twice in his career. I thought Rooney would be a no 10 but seemed to become a no 9.
@@tommysmith7031 That's because he sacrificed his own numbers for the good of the team. Allowed players like Van Nistelrooy, Ronaldo, Tevez & Van Persie to do so well
Half expected Alex to go for Big Sam or Alan Pardew just for the vibes
"Was Cantona that good?" Yes, yes he was. 126 goal contributions in 156 games as a 10, and the only season United didn't win the league while he was at the club was the one he was suspended for.
I really think you had to have been watching United back in the 90s to really appreciate him. There is no one with the charisma he had playing today. He could play beautifully. He scored loads of goals and he was just damn good fun to watch because you never knew what he was going to do. I honestly couldn't watch United play for at least a season after he left. I missed the rise of the class of 92 because I thought 'what's the point?' Without Cantona, the magic was gone. His goal against Sunderland is still the most beautiful goal I've ever seen.
Love how you use the '10' part as if he just sat in the hole, as opposed to a deep runner, who was basically a 2nd striker
Possibly a tongue in cheek comment from them? 😄
Also scored the winning goal in a ridiculous number of games when they chased down Keegan's Newcastle.
He’s good but we got to a period of time now where it’s the smallest tightest of margins for who’s the best and carina falls short
Gabor Kiraly better be on the list, if only for his jogging bottoms. I remember sitting in the North Stand of Villa Park watching him do the splits , praying they don't tear.
He started his own jogging brand back in here Hungary, you should order a pair for yourself
@@ShiningTony Fantastic! I genuinely might get a pair for my Dad who's a Villa supporter.
I have a great memory of him. When my team beat Palace 3-0 at Selhurst Park in the 2006 play-off semi's. What a great day that was.
Lol I loved when Seb asked if Alex even has defenders 😀
Oh man Alex's midfield is so incredibly robust! I let out an audible "oooohhhh" when he revealed his players. What an amazing midfield trio those players would be.
Respect the antti niemi pick. There are actually two antti niemi's and both are professional goalies but just in different sports. The other one played ice hockey in the nhl for multiple teams until he retired in 2020. The two antti's are not related and to my knowledge they have not acknowledged each other in any way so it could be possible that neither of them knows that there is another antti niemi who is also a retired sports goalie.
Immediately what I thought of also
I love how alex some how makes no sense but yet also makes all the sense
Shout out to Dennis Bergkamp. Most iconic premier League goal ever.
Fluke
@@danielburgess7101 nah
@@goobrrrr definitely a fluke
Agueroooooo
not even. Lol. I remeber the skill but i barely remember what the finish was like. Most iconic premier league goal is either Aguero's last minute goal, or Rooney's bicycle kick
One of the biggest surprises for me was not having Bergkamp in any team, but I know it's a tough ask to pick an all time 11
Bergkamp not even being mentioned is crazy, yeah. Also Matt Le Tissier which is amazing considering Alex is a Southampton fan. Finally, Gianfranco Zola is usually voted their best ever player by Chelsea fans but didn't even get a mention.
Somewhat surprised KdB is so overlooked but those are some strong looking teams
I think they should do this again but where no one can pick the same players. Joe Devine goes first, Seb second, JJ third then Alex can have all the excuses he wants for picking a completely ludicrous team.
TIFO should also do a follow up series with La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga and finally Champions League teams. Plus, they should also include the benched players as well.
Honestly I like the channel, but none of the guys at Tifo really know enough about foreign leagues going back to pick a team. Only way it would work is if they got experts in those leagues in
Why don't Spanish, Italian, Germans and combined people do that? We can't do everything!!
Alex really creates an identity and a system for every XI he creates for Tifo, love it
Lmao, it was definetly him who liked this comment
Alex is sending less and less subtle signals that he needs a day off (or a week). The shirt is one of them, but trying to outdone Pep by choosing Steven Gerard as a RB is the one no one can miss.
I feel like John Terry has been slightly disrespected here, but obviously these are subjective choices
Definitely the best center half I've ever seen in the prem.
Exactly. The premier league CB with most fifpro 11 and clean sheets
I agree
And kompany? maybe?
@@Dandyphonic a bit less obvious, but definitely an honorable mention. But to me Terry was in the group of obvious choices
JJs reference to some brilliant Scottish football patter is very much appreciated. That it went over the others heads less so!
He's only 28!
I was screaming yes and laughing at the same time when Alex picked Gerrard as the right back. I always thought he would make a great right back as a 13 year old.
He’d be the youngest Prem player at just 13 years old!
@@MjolnirMarks I meant I thought that when I was 13 years old.
@@homosapien5156 😉
Cech is a leader too, has more clean sheets and a higher save percentage than Schmeichel. The Schmeichel argument is rooted in nostalgia
Cech played with a more defensive team though
@@danielwebb8402 "higher save percentage." Also, Cech played under a multitude of different managers, not all of whom were defensive
Although I do think Cech is the best prem keeper I've ever seen, Save percentage and clean sheets are both very flawed stats.
Cech was a world-class goalkeeper but Schmeichel revolutionised the discipline of goalkeeping, in the same way players like Yashin and Neuer did.
@@Kim-gb4pf fair, seeing some post shot xG vs goals conceded would be ideal tbf
Oops. Seb's left striker is Shearer on the graphic. He knows you can't turn down the local hero.
Love JJ's speech and the love given to Shearer, couldn't agree more!
Roy Keane should be on every team with the arm band. He influenced the outcome of games more than anyone else, that makes him the best. Carrick when you can pick Keane lol?
Dennis Irwin is always overlooked at left back in these teams
Yep. And at right back!
Criminal ,he was the best right back and one of the best left backs .
You haven't seen Roy Keane's yet
@@AM2K2 That's just 11 Denis Irwins.
Best LB I've ever seen in the prem
I think that Eden Hazard's contribution to Chelsea and the Prem is constantly underestimated. He carried his team in so many games, was a constant menace week-in week-out. I understand not picking him, but not mentioning him ... Imagine having hazard in your team with players like Henry or Shearer :D
"San Pellegrino... in an overcoat pocket." Killed me.
What that mean?
@@brothatisfunny Seb was talking about a player being a "water carrier, but in a kind of casual way". San Pellegrino is a brand of sparkling water, and an overcoat is fairly smart-casual. The joke is in taking the phrase "water carrier" literally.
Surprised not to see Michu feature in any of these teams. Widely hailed as the greatest player of all time.
thats Amir Zaki mate
Love Alex's choice of Gerrard as a RB. My mates called me crazy for having Essien as mine.
Bruh I did this in PES way back when. His stats just fit that right back slot and we didn't have anyone better
@@dapukisgoingon me too! I think I was inspired by Jose using him as a RB vs Valencia
@@dapukisgoingon Gerrard had excellent crossing in PES/FIFA right? Can't quite remember 🧐
Love that David Silva was so good, he actually played the entirety of his Premier League career whilst in Spain.
Don’t forget he was only 13 when he got his debut!
Who could forget David Silva's 1999-2006 period for City?
I like how Seb has smeared Vaseline on his closeup camera for that Barbara Streisand Boudoir look.
I hope you get more likes for this comment
Did the lads just forget that the 00's/early 2010's Chelsea team won everything? No Terry, Lampard, or Cech is a crime.
I did think this.
Terry is a shout IMO over Vidic, Rio and Stam but there is no reasonable argument for Cech over Schmeichel or Lampard over just about any of the top 10 midfielders in the league. Chelsea won three PL titles in the 00s. Fergie's United won 6, and lost two of those missing titles by a single point. Despite this, no one picked Scholes, Rooney, Giggs, Ronaldo etc. so it's not about the title winners as such.
Long story short, not having Chelsea players isn't a crime.
I’m only at the right back pick but Alex would probably put Ali Dia up front by the end of this video
I know he was mentioned, but I CANNOT BELIEVE that Roy Keane didn't make any of their teams. You just wouldn't lose if you have Roy Keane on your side - he is a mythical figure, and he's still alive. He's the sort of character that you look at and think: 'is he for real - does he actually exist?!' My flabber is ghasted.
He'd get a red card per game in modern football
@@QazwerDave so does Ramos and yet he's one the greatest defenders ever
@@QazwerDave Nah. Roy is a very smart fellow. He'd figure out how to get the best out of himself no matter what era he was playing in.
Keane just kicked people whilst getting carried by actual good footballers ALL THE TIME
@@colouredIncognito Roy Keane was reared by Brian Clough on the mantra of passing, movement and positional awareness, and became the best box to box in the world on his day, best displayed probably against the famous Arsenal game, the Juventus game where united went down to 10 men or when he famously knocked the greatest Dutch side since Cruyffs out of the world cup qualifiers with 10 man Republic of Ireland
I'd be incognito too if I was telling the whole world I have no football knowledge.
Not a lot of love for Mourinho era Chelsea here, which is a little surprising given how good that defensive record was.
Also Cantona over Bergkamp? Nope.
Y'all are rlly getting mad over someone elses opinion. Its their team not yours.
@@JakeFLM Raging, absolutely fuming.
He won more titles than Bergkamp. In fact, his arrival at United was the catalyst that made them title winnres. I don't see where the debate is.
If you genuinely don't think there's a debate to be had over Cantona and Bergkamp then you haven't watched enough of either of them.
@@eocineV2 ok
JJ with the ultimate Scottish reference - "He's Finnish!"
I'd love to see and all-time most underrated team and more variations such as that, this is absolutely my favourite kind of video format, just chatting and reminiscing essentially ❤️
No ramsdale? Hot take right there
It nearly caught me off-guard and ready to spill my tea all over the laptop when Alex's "arbitrary" option for a right-back comes in the form of Steven Gerrard. Man has to make his case wide out in the open.
Haha! I was not expecting to hear Antti Niemi but I’m sure as hell glad that I did! An absolute legend of mine growing up watching the jambos! 🇱🇻
I can never tell if Alex is trolling or not. Absolutely brilliant.
The thought of Cantona, Salah and Henry together makes me happy
I like how you've actually picked teams that in theory could work IRL instead of just picking the best players like most people do.
After just two picks, I’m thinking “wow Alex’s picks are really stupid but the way he explains them justifies them in such a calm and weird way that I’m ok with it.”
I could watch this trio for an hour as they pick out their all-time PL XIs.
I've love a 3-4-3, with active wingbacks to provide width. Team managed by Jurgen Klopp.
GK: Alisson Becker (Liverpool)
CBs: John Terry (Chelsea), Virgil Van Dijk (Liverpool), Rio Ferdinand (Man United)
LWB: Ryan Giggs (Man United)
RWB: Cesar Azpilicueta (Chelsea)
DM: N'Golo Kante (Chelsea)
CM: Steven Gerrard (Liverpool)
FWs: Mohamed Salah (Liverpool), Didier Drogba (Chelsea), Cristiano Ronaldo (Man United)
Here’s our premier league all time best XI.
Alex Stewart: “I’ve decided to pick the entire 1986 polish winter Olympic ice hockey team.”
Only a spurs fan can shoehorn 3 ex spurs players into an all time PL XI 😂😂😂
Great video!
Cristiano Ronaldo, Frank Lampard, Wayne Rooney, Berckhamp, Roy Keane, Terry, Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes, Makelele, Azpilicueta, Butt did not make it to anyone's team. Pure class 🙏
Daley Blind? 😂
@@IzingaI sorry 😂. Corrected it to Nicky Butt. Thanks for the comment 🙏
Either John Terry is becoming underrated or he's being forgotten about because of his admittedly questionable reputation as a human surely he deserved a shout in one of you guys teams
He had the easiest job in football. Surrounded by Cole, Carvalho, Makelele and Cech. Phil Jones would look world class there
@@domiNATEgame14 Ok so by your logic a player like Maldini also had the easiest job in football since he played alongside Nesta, Costacurta, Tassotti, Baresi, Gattuso, Cafu and Stam in his career... Football is a team game and to say something as tone deaf as 'Phil Jones would look class there' is laughable, Terry was world class even years after some of those players left anyway
@@Darty555 I dunno what formation/position is going on there but that's a mad one lad
@@domiNATEgame14 I dunno how you can't differentiate between a formation and simply just listing players lad...
@@Darty555 I see your mistake now. Sorry for assuming you had a brain. I should have known better
Fernadinho ahead of Viera, Makalele, Yaya, and Keane is crazy. Not to mention Carrick over Scholes, Lampard, and KDB
Anti Niemi’s not finished, he’s only 28
No he's Finnish
@@bri1085 he’s not Scottish?
I'm an Arsenal fan but I must say David Beckham was phenomenal in his day. Definitely in my all time Prem team.
The best player in the world at one point imo
I'd play him as my right back
@@QazwerDave it's a shame he didn't stay at Utd his whole career because I reckon Beck's at RB and Giggs at LB late in their careers would of been able to do a job just whipping balls in the box.
Yes! Was hoping to see more All-Tme XI's!
You guys should do insights on how your teams would play. You've already done that but with the tactical knowledge that you guys have I would LOVE to see how this team would set up for set plays. Quality content, up the tifo!
Should set them up on FM and see who wins
Love JJ so much. So wholesome
An unorthodox XI is what I didn't think I needed. Thank you TIFO. Absolute lads
Denis Irwin at left back. He was left and right footed, could take set pieces, score goals and was a great one on one defender.
He's not finished, he's only 27
My 18th birthday gift was a flight out to the San Siro for a Milan game around 04/05. Resting players prior to a midweek champions league game, I watched Anceleotti play Stam at right-back and he was FRIGHTENING all game long. A brick sh*thouse with 89 pace. Absolute powerhouse.
At least they need to put a photo for Alex's boyhood hero haha
This channel is sooooo good!
It's wild how much JJ loves that Barcelona midfield yet always opts for Gerrard over Scholes
Stop buying into Scholes the myth, he was a quality player no doubt, but he's been mythologised to the point of being unrecognisable
@@jackfoulkes3075 Putting the fact that you are completely wrong about that to one side for a minute. The point i'm making here is more about the style of player than the ability.
@@bri1085 I'd say the fact that I watched him live every other week for almost his entire career means I'm probably in a better position than you to recognize how good or not he was.
Scholes wasn't even the best midfielder at United. Keane was better than him by a decent margin.
@@jackfoulkes3075 The only mythology here is this idea that Gerrard could do what Scholes did best with anywhere close to the consistency. Barring possibly Pirlo, who never played in this league, I've never seen a player able to make the perfect pass with such regularity. It was unthinkable how often his pass not only sliced open the opponent, but more how it was almost always right on the money in terms of perfect weight, perfect position for maximum advantage and how he didn't need too much space to pull it off. Decision making was also top. In a technical sense, he was the very best this league has seen in terms of passing the football. It's a massive exaggeration to suggest Gerrard had anywhere near the same consistent level of vision or the execution in his passing, he had a killer cross but that's a very different skillset. Gerrard had his own qualities that Scholes didn't have, of course, but let's not pretend Gerrard came anywhere close to Paul Scholes' best attributes.
As for the Zidane comments, there's no shortage of top players paying homage to Paul Scholes either. I remember listening to John Terry being able to sit there and openly saying that Scholesy could do things that he'd never seen other players do. Ronaldinho, Rooney, Zidane himself, Henry, Xavi, etc. all have said things along the same lines. He was among the most technically gifted footballers ever to play in this league, if not the most.
Alex Ferguson also said he was wrong about Stam loosing a yard of pace , and selling him was a huge mistake.
This was a great video
JJ's teams are always and consistently excellent, well done
Jesus the recency bias off the charts for Van Dijk who has won 1 (one) trophy in England compared to the likes of Terry, Adams, Kompany etc
So did Shearer..,
And what about Gerard? It’s all about trophies now? If so be consistent. Don’t hear you complaining about Shearer or Gerard...
trophies arent everything my guy
@@JakeFLM tell me is van djik better than Terry or Ferdinand or vidic. Can you? He just had one good season ie 18-19. And then he fade away.
@Sparsh Khurana ok you are now considering Ballon dor. If i can recall Ramos or puyol has never made in top 5 . So thay mustn't be considered as one of the best. For you Van djik is Good defender but not the great. That it. Also i haven't compared trophies though. Also how good is Van djik this season? How many clean sheets? Then Ruben dias or Laporte must also be greatest defender. Their stats back them up there game back them up, their team back them up.
So McGrath was picked in an all-time world XI but not a premier league XI
How has nobody picked this team…Schmeichel,K.Walker, J.Terry, R.Ferdinand, A.Cole, P.Vieira, P.Scholes, F.Lampard, C.Ronaldo,W.Rooney, T.Henry
I’m not saying he’s one of the 3 best midfielders that’s played in the prem but I always liked Moussa Dembele from Spurs. He was great at receiving the ball from the defenders and turning forward and he carried the ball well
Never thought Luggy would ever get a mention in a Tifo Video! Well done Alex & of course Green Army!
When your pick is so out of left field that Tifo haven't illustrated him. And I'm saying this as a Finn.
I don't know what to expect from Alex anymore, and that's the beauty of the man.
Michael Carrick's style = San Pellegrino in an overcoat pocket
That was a brilliant metaphor Alex!
Shocked Terry didn't get any shouts
The he is Finnish joke went straight over everyone head.
Cech, Terry, Lamps and Drogba still underrated :)
Cech and Terry are in an all time PL XI, but Lamps and Drogba do not deserve to be near an all time PL XI
Ronaldo, Bale, Modric and Japp Stam had the best periods of their career outside the PL
Manager: Pep
United fan over 20 years but Pep is unbelievable. The game was never the same after that Spanish dominance 2008 period.
Attack: Henry, Aguero, Ronaldo
Midfield: Scholes, Xabi Alonso, Gerrard
Defenders: Bale, VVD, Rio, Walker
GK: Ederson
The CB shouts where great but as a pair (albeit short lived) John Terry & Ricardo Carvalho will always come up tops for me. That defensive unit in General with Cech, Cole & Ferreira was water tight!
Did Seb try and sneak in a cheeky Peter Crouch towards the end there? An unappreciated legend fo sho
That was surprisingly fantastic
Sir Alex Ferguson won a premier league with Cleverly Jones Anderson Smalling and with the Glazers in charge as the owners.
Sir Alex saw off every challenge that came his way (Wenger Mourinho Mancini Ancelotti) and that’s the proof that if he were younger in age, he’d have seen off the “Pep” challenge as well.
Not to forget, Sir Alex won the European Cup Winners Cup with Aberdeen defeating Real Madrid.
Pep inherited a treble winning Bayern team and could Not even take them to a UCL final.
Alex is, but it’s great logic…
Now for his forwards.. Thierry Henry and Lucas Digne
I'm biased as a United fan but I genuinely think a midfield of Beckham Keane Scholes Giggs is a shout for best midfielders in each position. I remember watching games where the opposition tried to stop them with a 5 man midfield but it didn't work.
No way gary Neville. He even said himself he wouldn't hack modern day football
Who would you have? Im not sure myself besides Trent
@@zaim_3130 Yeah probably. Only others are maybe zabelta and ivanovic
That doesn't really matter when it comes a hypothetical best 11 though
@@JPzizou Yeah I guess it depends on the system. Most modern football tactics require a lot of output offensively which was not the case during the early premier league days.
love this