I've learned more in 2yrs. watching your channel, understanding car audio and the pure knowledge on Subwoofer efficiency, than the last 30yrs of being in the Car audio industry. I finally get it, thanks bro!👍💯
Yesssir! My orions(not hcca) only accept 10% larger and 50% voltage before they like to bottom out and start to vc stank! They will hit lower frequencies, but their fs is 39hz so you gotta know your parameters! My subs shine in a 1.35sqft (slightly smaller) box! But they are a bit more for spl than sq. Thank you for clearing this up for some do not kno de wey
MB, I'm offended. I don't consider myself a rookie, I just don't know how to do so(build boxes)and besides I hear you're one the best to ever do it. Lol
i have to be doin 145 with 3 8's, on 1800 watts... its already broke the fuel door, rear windshield wiper, etc on my runner lol.. ive learned lots from your channel and knowledge man!!! im sure i speak for many when i say this!! Thanks for what you do, and what youve shared with us!!!! You have made the basshead hobby better for everyone in it!! You deserve every bit of success youve earned!!! God Bless You and Yours!!!
Haven't got a car at the moment so installed my x--ion 12 800 in-home. It now gets 200w less then it used to in the car because even now at not even full tilt my neighbours glasses and plates are falling out of the cabinets she told me .. but the 'fs' resonance freq. of the building is exactly 34Hz. sow @ tuning freq. I had to drop the output a little. Even though they always listen good music😉 mine haha. not a bad neighbour, just addicted to that feeling of your woofer kicking like a mule haha✌🏻 keep it up
wishing I had seen this video earlier lol. Just finished up a box for a single sundown X-8. 1.2 net, 32hz, 16sq/in port area on a jp13... hopefully Ill be ight.. i would go 14sq in next time.
Running oversized for sealed is much more forgiving than ported. An oversized ported box sounds so loose omg no!! Oversized with sealed is considered the ultimate sound quality setup plus it digs 👍
@@kellenstrickland3847 I'm still baffled to this day why so many people overwhelmingly prefer ported. I mean I understand if you're really budget limited in trying to bump when you can only afford 300 watts of power maybe
@@kellenstrickland3847 I've had lots of luck running ported on high power with maximum cone area!! It's a little more expensive to get loud but it's worth it
If you are new to building systems and enclosures this is the site you need to be at everything he says is 100 percent true if the manufacturer tells you the recommendations of a subwoofer enclosure? You can go 20 to 25 percent smaller or 20 to 25 percent larger? I don't recommend putting a 15 inch subwoofer in a box that is 6 cubic feet this is how subwoofers gets destroyed? 🤔 I have put a 15 in a 2.75 cubic foot enclosure you have to have more power to push it to its mechanical limits?
It's all about compromises, if you build the box really big you'll get more on the bottom and more reverberation but less up top. Build to get to your sound preference!!
@@dman09191964 check out the video of the box on my channel , and yes I agree that’s the largest I would go , the JL Audio High Output box for the w7 is HUGE about 3cf but that’s net volume im not sure about the actual air space after displacement
@@SQ_Silverado That enclosure is beautiful. It'll probably sound very good in the lower frequencies but you will lose some sound quality in the upper range. Not sure if you are concerned about the upper range or not. That is going to be very nice when you are done with your build. JL definitely on the very upper end of price. Do you have anything that will fill in the gap you will lose with the 12 in that size of a box? Maybe 8's tuned to the upper sound quality frequency that you'll lose(sound quality wise-tight upper bass) by having the 12 in such a large box. Please let us know how it sounds once you install.
@@SQ_Silverado I checked out some of your videos(especially of the 12 performing in your vehicle. Your space is somewhat limited for your subs. Personally I would go with 2 10" W7's in a 3 to 3.4 cf box. Two 12's would be a little too tight with your amps and loc's taking up space in your trunk. Two tens would have more cone area than your one 12 and it would fit in your trunk perfectly.
You know what your doing man if not yiuvwouldnt be busy. Inmo 4 to 4.5 for a 15 is pretty much or just a lil oversized only a few companies ask for that much airspace for there 15. Dc level 5s like 3 to 3.5. I use 3.8 to 4 cubes on 15s .14 too 16 port inches per cube. Thatcworks good for most especially if your ever gonna switch brands out and not build differant box for each sub. It's a good middle ground.
So what if u dont care about numbers u just want a good sounding subwoofer . I want good bandwidth, with lows . For example, i want to build a box 1.5 inch thick plywood. 24x24x40 long. With 8 4 inch aero ports for 15 ish sq inches of port per cube and ports will be 30 inches long. For 30hz tuning. The net volume will be around 7.5 cubes . The 18 i have is similar to a dc audio level 4 for power handling. So bigger enclosure with lots of port area and i have 4k rms on tap not that im going to use all of it . Will this help with my bandwidth for a more towards SQ build ???
Wanted to ask you a question about my enclosure I have a 99 tahoe I have two 9518s super charged the box is 34 inches deep 4ft wide 22 inches tall I have two ports they are 22 inches long by 5 and half inches tall let me know if you think the ports are too big or you think I'm ok thanks again appreciate all your hard work and love all the content you put on yutube
Very good information. Most oversized boxes I've heard don't sound very good, no definition. So you have to know what your doing. I'm a carpenter by trade and it took years to know what I know. Keep dropping the knowledge and information.💯
I am new to your channel but not car stereo. I would love to hear your input on this . I am a huge fan of SQ but naturally I like to turn it up like anyone else I get SPL from time to time. You always preach that Cone Area is king. And while I do agree with you this lends me to this question. I am running two 10” Infinity 1000s in the trunk my Lexus ES 350. I build my own stuff I have it tuned to 33hz in a ported box. Why ported if I like SQ? Because it’s in the trunk and I need more SPL to get through the trunk. I am giving them 1000 watts and they each except 450 rms. Is sounds incredible!!! But…. It doesn’t sound correct. Remember I am into SQ. I think I need a better DP than the Audio Control L7ci . What is your thoughts? If all specs are met as needed for space and power would three 10” lower powered subs in a sealed box work better than two 10” in an ported box? Three 10” s automatically give you more Cone Area. Can’t be the same quality sub woofer either because of the lower power demands.
Trunk cars are notorious for muffling the bass. For SPL probably best off going with a band passported in through the rear deck and sealed off, or a ported setup big as you can fit in the trunk facing backwards with the seats down. For SQ, a forward firing trunk wall would likely be best. I've even seen people put 4 8s in the top rear deck and seal that off with them facing the glass, that sounded good as well.
@@julesbruchez-outperformtra2020 we're in here doing it for the love of it no problem brother you can UA-cam any of those listed setups and get all kinds of tutorials and information I swear it's easier than you think if you just have the patience and work.
At 4:08 you said most 15s play between 4 - 4.5 cubes. My question is, Skar says their vxf 15 needs only 3.25 cubes. Should i leave that at 3.25 or should i bump it up to 4 cubes?
@@marcuskoolrt Sweet, Thanks man!! I have an SVR 12 rn on an rp-1200 in a tiny truck with terrible acoustics. Cant wait to get a hatchback and put a REAL sound system in it.
@@bailey2517 I think a hatchback would go better with my current vxf and aeroport enclosur tuned to 32hz. It’s a picky subwoofer. It loves mostly the lows. Just not my thing for my Dodge Charger trunk. I need a higher tuned setup and make you feed that sub. Mines eating rp up my rp 2000. Should definitely get a second battery as well with a big 3. Good luck.
@@bailey2517 like for example that kirk bangs - drinks in my cup - song tht en yeah specially in a hatchback with a good enclosure. … it just depends man this subwoofer likes it’s certain jams. Not all of them.
I've learned more in 2yrs. watching your channel, understanding car audio and the pure knowledge on Subwoofer efficiency, than the last 30yrs of being in the Car audio industry. I finally get it, thanks bro!👍💯
He really knows wtf he talking about… i Love this guy
Yesssir! My orions(not hcca) only accept 10% larger and 50% voltage before they like to bottom out and start to vc stank! They will hit lower frequencies, but their fs is 39hz so you gotta know your parameters! My subs shine in a 1.35sqft (slightly smaller) box! But they are a bit more for spl than sq. Thank you for clearing this up for some do not kno de wey
MB, I'm offended. I don't consider myself a rookie, I just don't know how to do so(build boxes)and besides I hear you're one the best to ever do it. Lol
You know what you talking about MBE.... Thanks for the amazing advice.... 👍👍👍👍💯
i have to be doin 145 with 3 8's, on 1800 watts... its already broke the fuel door, rear windshield wiper, etc on my runner lol..
ive learned lots from your channel and knowledge man!!! im sure i speak for many when i say this!!
Thanks for what you do, and what youve shared with us!!!! You have made the basshead hobby better for everyone in it!!
You deserve every bit of success youve earned!!!
God Bless You and Yours!!!
Haven't got a car at the moment so installed my x--ion 12 800 in-home. It now gets 200w less then it used to in the car because even now at not even full tilt my neighbours glasses and plates are falling out of the cabinets she told me .. but the 'fs' resonance freq. of the building is exactly 34Hz. sow @ tuning freq. I had to drop the output a little. Even though they always listen good music😉 mine haha. not a bad neighbour, just addicted to that feeling of your woofer kicking like a mule haha✌🏻 keep it up
wishing I had seen this video earlier lol. Just finished up a box for a single sundown X-8. 1.2 net, 32hz, 16sq/in port area on a jp13... hopefully Ill be ight.. i would go 14sq in next time.
I use sealed boxes, and I always do slightly oversized boxes because I like that 20HZ and lower life!
Facts 💯 I've always used sealed enclosures
Running oversized for sealed is much more forgiving than ported. An oversized ported box sounds so loose omg no!! Oversized with sealed is considered the ultimate sound quality setup plus it digs 👍
@@kellenstrickland3847 I'm still baffled to this day why so many people overwhelmingly prefer ported. I mean I understand if you're really budget limited in trying to bump when you can only afford 300 watts of power maybe
@@johnnycorn7225 I've got the same Truck as MBE just not a dually. Got two 12s in custom sealed enclosure stuffed with polyfil and it sounds great
@@kellenstrickland3847 I've had lots of luck running ported on high power with maximum cone area!! It's a little more expensive to get loud but it's worth it
Awesome 👌
I always take the recommended volume, multiply it by 1.33
Yeah you definitely better know what you doing because that way too big
@@M.B.Enclosures unless you got a kicker sub
If you are new to building systems and enclosures this is the site you need to be at everything he says is 100 percent true if the manufacturer tells you the recommendations of a subwoofer enclosure? You can go 20 to 25 percent smaller or 20 to 25 percent larger? I don't recommend putting a 15 inch subwoofer in a box that is 6 cubic feet this is how subwoofers gets destroyed? 🤔 I have put a 15 in a 2.75 cubic foot enclosure you have to have more power to push it to its mechanical limits?
It's all about compromises, if you build the box really big you'll get more on the bottom and more reverberation but less up top. Build to get to your sound preference!!
I got a w7 12” , JL recommends 1.75 for a vented enclosure. I went and got myself a 2.5cf box. I hope it bumps.
2cf would be the max I would go. 2.5 may be a little too big for that JL.
@@dman09191964 check out the video of the box on my channel , and yes I agree that’s the largest I would go , the JL Audio High Output box for the w7 is HUGE about 3cf but that’s net volume im not sure about the actual air space after displacement
@@SQ_Silverado That enclosure is beautiful. It'll probably sound very good in the lower frequencies but you will lose some sound quality in the upper range. Not sure if you are concerned about the upper range or not. That is going to be very nice when you are done with your build. JL definitely on the very upper end of price. Do you have anything that will fill in the gap you will lose with the 12 in that size of a box? Maybe 8's tuned to the upper sound quality frequency that you'll lose(sound quality wise-tight upper bass) by having the 12 in such a large box. Please let us know how it sounds once you install.
@@SQ_Silverado I checked out some of your videos(especially of the 12 performing in your vehicle. Your space is somewhat limited for your subs. Personally I would go with 2 10" W7's in a 3 to 3.4 cf box. Two 12's would be a little too tight with your amps and loc's taking up space in your trunk. Two tens would have more cone area than your one 12 and it would fit in your trunk perfectly.
@@dman09191964 thank you for your input 💯💯💯💯💯
You know what your doing man if not yiuvwouldnt be busy. Inmo 4 to 4.5 for a 15 is pretty much or just a lil oversized only a few companies ask for that much airspace for there 15. Dc level 5s like 3 to 3.5. I use 3.8 to 4 cubes on 15s .14 too 16 port inches per cube. Thatcworks good for most especially if your ever gonna switch brands out and not build differant box for each sub. It's a good middle ground.
So what if u dont care about numbers u just want a good sounding subwoofer . I want good bandwidth, with lows . For example, i want to build a box 1.5 inch thick plywood. 24x24x40 long. With 8 4 inch aero ports for 15 ish sq inches of port per cube and ports will be 30 inches long. For 30hz tuning.
The net volume will be around 7.5 cubes . The 18 i have is similar to a dc audio level 4 for power handling. So bigger enclosure with lots of port area and i have 4k rms on tap not that im going to use all of it . Will this help with my bandwidth for a more towards SQ build ???
what track do you use for your free air demos?? i wanna hear that bassline on my sheeeit lol..
On My Level - Wiz feat Short
Wanted to ask you a question about my enclosure I have a 99 tahoe I have two 9518s super charged the box is 34 inches deep 4ft wide 22 inches tall I have two ports they are 22 inches long by 5 and half inches tall let me know if you think the ports are too big or you think I'm ok thanks again appreciate all your hard work and love all the content you put on yutube
Very good information. Most oversized boxes I've heard don't sound very good, no definition. So you have to know what your doing. I'm a carpenter by trade and it took years to know what I know. Keep dropping the knowledge and information.💯
Mb your the 🐐
Two 12” Kicker CompVX powered by JL audio RD1500 (1500rms) amp. How much cuft do I need for a ported box
Nice explain
Question: space is issue for me so subs are in a sealed enclosure would you advise slightly bigger for better output or not applicable for sealed?
My 18 sub calls for 7.77cu max vented and U have 4 what would u recommend my box now is 40x48x22 I feeln its too small
Great explanation. Thank you.
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I am new to your channel but not car stereo. I would love to hear your input on this . I am a huge fan of SQ but naturally I like to turn it up like anyone else I get SPL from time to time. You always preach that Cone Area is king. And while I do agree with you this lends me to this question. I am running two 10” Infinity 1000s in the trunk my Lexus ES 350. I build my own stuff I have it tuned to 33hz in a ported box. Why ported if I like SQ? Because it’s in the trunk and I need more SPL to get through the trunk. I am giving them 1000 watts and they each except 450 rms. Is sounds incredible!!! But…. It doesn’t sound correct. Remember I am into SQ. I think I need a better DP than the Audio Control L7ci . What is your thoughts? If all specs are met as needed for space and power would three 10” lower powered subs in a sealed box work better than two 10” in an ported box? Three 10” s automatically give you more Cone Area. Can’t be the same quality sub woofer either because of the lower power demands.
Trunk cars are notorious for muffling the bass.
For SPL probably best off going with a band passported in through the rear deck and sealed off, or a ported setup big as you can fit in the trunk facing backwards with the seats down.
For SQ, a forward firing trunk wall would likely be best.
I've even seen people put 4 8s in the top rear deck and seal that off with them facing the glass, that sounded good as well.
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@@M.B.Enclosures thanks for the bump, much respect big fam
I really appreciate all the information.
@@julesbruchez-outperformtra2020 we're in here doing it for the love of it no problem brother you can UA-cam any of those listed setups and get all kinds of tutorials and information I swear it's easier than you think if you just have the patience and work.
What's a good size box for one sundown audio u 12 dvc 2 ohm. I know the recommended size specs but I know that's just a recommendation
2.5 cubic feet
Hello sir
Where are you located? City and State
At 4:08 you said most 15s play between 4 - 4.5 cubes. My question is, Skar says their vxf 15 needs only 3.25 cubes. Should i leave that at 3.25 or should i bump it up to 4 cubes?
I have a vxf 15 with the 3.25. Go with the recommended.
@@marcuskoolrt Sweet, Thanks man!! I have an SVR 12 rn on an rp-1200 in a tiny truck with terrible acoustics. Cant wait to get a hatchback and put a REAL sound system in it.
@@bailey2517 I think a hatchback would go better with my current vxf and aeroport enclosur tuned to 32hz. It’s a picky subwoofer. It loves mostly the lows. Just not my thing for my Dodge Charger trunk. I need a higher tuned setup and make you feed that sub. Mines eating rp up my rp 2000. Should definitely get a second battery as well with a big 3. Good luck.
@@marcuskoolrt is it still abole to hit highs (like 40-60hz) at good volumes? I still wanna be able to slam high bass too while hitting into mid 20s
@@bailey2517 like for example that kirk bangs - drinks in my cup - song tht en yeah specially in a hatchback with a good enclosure. … it just depends man this subwoofer likes it’s certain jams. Not all of them.
MBE HOW MUCH YOU charge TO build a box
Send him a text his number is in the description.
@@brandoncoles1495 bet
So what if you build a box that is over sized. Are your customers Happy
If they are....Fuck it your job is done ✅
What a coincidence
600 bucks for a shit online program build. Hit me up for half
His product is trash!