Mario Del Monaco Tito Gobbi Otello (vaimusic.com)

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    Mario Del Monaco & Tito Gobbi sing "Era la notte, Cassio dormia - Si, pel ciel marmoreo giuro!" From: Otello (Giuseppe Verdi)
    From: VAI DVD 4425 Otello (Verdi)
    An historic live 1959 performance starring Mario Del Monaco in his most celebrated portrayal, partnered by illustrious colleagues Gabriella Tucci and Tito Gobbi, and maestro Alberto Erede leading the NHK Symphony Orchestra.
    Includes optional subtitles in English, French, German, Italian, and Spanish with embedded Japanese subtitles.
    131 minutes, Black & White, mono, All regions.
    Live in Japan (1959)
    Alberto Erede, conductor.
    TO PURCHASE THE COMPLETE DVD,PLEASE VISIT www.vaimusic.com OR CALL TOLL-FREE IN THE US 1(800)477-7146 (OUTSIDE OF THE US, CALL 914-769-3691).

КОМЕНТАРІ • 155

  • @MDM679
    @MDM679 12 років тому +41

    Domingo can play Otello's childhood... Del Monaco can breath like Domingo sings...

    • @user-py1jg6bb2r
      @user-py1jg6bb2r 4 роки тому +6

      Domingo should go Hollywood, darling for carema...

    • @markusstraub4709
      @markusstraub4709 4 роки тому +2

      Mario Del Monaco war absolut ein Heldentenor der Superlative! Unbestritten! Leider habe ich ihn auf der Bühne nie live erleben dürfen. Wohl aber habe ich Placido Domingo live als Otello erlebt - 1994 in Verona! Ein unvergessliches Ereignis! Domingo betritt solo die Bühne - und die Bühne ist ausgefüllt! Ich habe viele Sängerinnen une Sänger, nicht nur in Verona, gehört und gesehen. Aber an Bühnenpräsenz war Domingo nicht zu überbieten. Und im Gegensatz zu Del Monaco in dieser Aufnahme hat er auch alle Töne getroffen!

    • @maximtuboltsev6046
      @maximtuboltsev6046 3 роки тому +5

      @Barone Vitellio Scarpia, Domingo shouldn’t sing everything, when there are Mario Del Monaco, Franco Corelli, Giuseppe Di Stefano, Franco Bonisolli and other great singers!

    • @Catalogue2
      @Catalogue2 Рік тому

      Es ist eine Frage der stimmlichen Angemessenheit für die Rolle. Doch kann man Del Monacos dramatisches Instrument nicht mit einer nur volleren, lyrischen Stimme vergleichen.
      Über Domingo: Ausser auf die hohen si-Naturalen und das einzelne hohe do (vor "Niun mi Tema") hat Domingo wahrscheinlich alle Töne "getroffen", was mit größerer Sicherheit hörbar ist, wenn die Verstärkersysteme (wenn die leider eben vorhanden war) eingeschaltet war waehrend Spielzeit 1994. Aber ohne solchen ist dieser Veranstaltungsort nur für die größten Stimmen gebaut.

  • @Huaimek861
    @Huaimek861 4 роки тому +11

    Nobody sings Era La Notte more beautifully than Tito Gobbi .

    • @kennethwayne6857
      @kennethwayne6857 4 роки тому +2

      Yes, Gobbi is great, but there are a few good Era la Notte's out there. Check out Granforte, Tibbett, Milnes and today's Gerald Finley. Hampson (not everyone's idea of an Iago) did a beautiful job with it.

    • @xxsaruman82xx87
      @xxsaruman82xx87 4 роки тому +2

      @@kennethwayne6857 Finley and Hampson are not Verdi baritones. The others are all great.

    • @kennethwayne6857
      @kennethwayne6857 4 роки тому +2

      @@xxsaruman82xx87 That is true, however if you're not a conventional 'Verdi baritone', must that necessarily disqualify you from singing his music? (I am a lyric baritone and have had the privilege of studying with the great Louis Quilico and hope to sing a few of the lighter Verdi roles.)

    • @xxsaruman82xx87
      @xxsaruman82xx87 4 роки тому +1

      @@kennethwayne6857 No, but it does if you sing with the modern singing technique with no squillo and no chiaroscuro.

  • @RichardMorrisonBaritone
    @RichardMorrisonBaritone 16 років тому +21

    Gobbi - the greatest - absolutely the greatest singing actor ever.

  • @massimilianorossi8028
    @massimilianorossi8028 4 роки тому +7

    Il più grande baritono della storia con il più grande tenore della storia che coppia ragazzi

  • @malfada22
    @malfada22 14 років тому +15

    Give me a tenor like Del Monaco now a days and I would be supremely happy.

    • @xxsaruman82xx87
      @xxsaruman82xx87 4 роки тому +2

      I would think I'd died and gone to heaven!

    • @maximtuboltsev6046
      @maximtuboltsev6046 3 роки тому +1

      @Barone Vitellio Scarpia, i like him, but Del Monaco is better! His voice is bigger, technique is better.

    • @maximtuboltsev6046
      @maximtuboltsev6046 3 роки тому +2

      @Barone Vitellio Scarpia, yes, i agree with you.
      You should watch this video! This man says that Gobbi is bad! And that Shore is better then Gobbi!!! Is he mad or stupid?? ua-cam.com/video/frGvs_t_ATc/v-deo.html

    • @oliverdelica2289
      @oliverdelica2289 3 роки тому +1

      Listening to too much Del Monaco can destroy your hearing. I think it's worth it though 😉

    • @luissaenzcarranza3395
      @luissaenzcarranza3395 17 днів тому

      Gobierno excelente!!!

  • @AuthorDiva
    @AuthorDiva 16 років тому +13

    I am so thankful that these live performances were captured on video so that we can enjoy them decades later! Del Monaco and Gobbi were two great artists.

  • @gemmadestate3216
    @gemmadestate3216 7 років тому +18

    Quando il destino accoppia due giganti:che gioia poterli ascoltare!Quando vado a teatro di questi tempi mi sento sempre orfana!

    • @cruscante
      @cruscante Рік тому +1

      Io preferisco Caruso con Titta Ruffo, e di gran lunga

    • @cirilo7218
      @cirilo7218 5 місяців тому

      ​@@cruscante да, они лучшие!

  • @giampierone010
    @giampierone010 11 років тому +15

    Gobbi straordinario come Jago!!!!!!!!!!!Del Monaco un Otello fra i più completi!!!! grazie

    • @user-ir2lg7sh7j
      @user-ir2lg7sh7j Рік тому +1

      Нет ничего прекраснее Гобби и нетолько итальянские певцы вне конкуренции гены вероятно Средиземноморье темперамент прекрасная природа изумительные художники скульпторы и люди всегда сулыбкой юмором вс

  • @grazianobattisti1410
    @grazianobattisti1410 4 роки тому +6

    Sono stati due eroi della storia della musica

  • @ivanscotton6163
    @ivanscotton6163 5 місяців тому +1

    Só com a Internet. O nível de nossos canais oficiais nos esconderam décadas centenas de obras de artes.

  • @giampierone010
    @giampierone010 12 років тому +9

    Questi mostri sacri... non solo cantano ...ma recitano in maniera sottile e coinvolgono il pubblico come pochi altri riescono a fare...Gobbi-Del Monaco...due artisti immensi...saluti

  • @SlavKulikov
    @SlavKulikov 15 років тому +11

    Titto Gobbi sings like Titto Ruffo...Mario Del Monaco is devine...their voices sound very even, sometimes they are alike because of the common vocal school de l`U...very inspiring, sehr lebendig! Fantastisch!

  • @claudemichaud6966
    @claudemichaud6966 9 років тому +6

    I was very Lucky i saw both with Tebaldi in Otello in Montréal 1966.

  • @Alessandro-tk2ll
    @Alessandro-tk2ll 5 років тому +9

    Due grandi artisti italiani

  • @LordMgls
    @LordMgls 14 років тому +5

    What an Otello!!! Perfectly suiting voice, Mr. del Monaco.

  • @alessandrocorsi7518
    @alessandrocorsi7518 7 років тому +3

    Lal piu' bella rappresentazione dell'Otello di sempre...sia dal punto di vista vocale di questi due giganti della lirica ,sia da quello interpretativo!!poi l'effetto bianco e nero roba d'altri tempi!!!!! SUPERBI!!

  • @brunaazzurra
    @brunaazzurra 9 років тому +13

    grandissimi!!

  • @giorgioduse7203
    @giorgioduse7203 4 роки тому +3

    DUE MOSTRI SACRI

  • @redcarfannikolova87
    @redcarfannikolova87 Рік тому +1

    Уникален❤️Но чуй и Джилли❤️

  • @jerzypeteja1792
    @jerzypeteja1792 3 роки тому +3

    Słuchanie tych dwóch ikon śpiewu operowego to przeżycie. Byli wspaniali. Niezapomniani...

  • @giorgioduse7203
    @giorgioduse7203 11 років тому +4

    Condivido moltissimo il suo commento purtoppo abbiamo perso quella grande scuola che sfornava grandi cantanti lirici di questo calibro. saluti

  • @KatieKaboom21
    @KatieKaboom21 8 років тому +8

    A real gem, thank you! 🍷🎩

  • @giovannifortunato6118
    @giovannifortunato6118 2 роки тому +1

    Sono mostruosamente unici

  • @joemcbob9688
    @joemcbob9688 3 роки тому +1

    Can't stop listening to this...fantastic!

  • @vitabella6481
    @vitabella6481 5 років тому +3

    L' intonazione di Gobbi e purtroppo un dramma e si sente anche qualche caprino. MdM e favoloso ❤

    • @giovannievangelista6218
      @giovannievangelista6218 3 роки тому +1

      Tito Gobbi ha sempre cantato maluccio, però è un genio interpretativo!

    • @claraleonori9500
      @claraleonori9500 Рік тому +1

      @@giovannievangelista6218 GOBBI ERA MERAVIGLIOSO IO L'ho veduto in teatro piu' VOLTE DA RAGAZZINA1 SEMPRE PERFETTO NELLA VOCE E NELLA RECITAZIONE DIRE CANTAVA MALUCCIO E' ASSOLUTAMENTE INACCETTABILE!

  • @user-vn9ru7bd1l
    @user-vn9ru7bd1l 2 роки тому +3

    это прекрасно!!!

  • @bAdAbAdA13
    @bAdAbAdA13 15 років тому +2

    I have the radio broadcast of one of these Otello performances in Tokyo and Del Monaco is back on the top of his game.

  • @kh3205
    @kh3205 14 років тому +11

    Both of them are great here despite some flaws. Del Monaco's voice was something. It may be too strong/loud for some roles, but for this role, I love it. Gobbi was able to combine acting and his voice together and Iago was an extremely good role for him. The only competition I can think of for this role is Giuseppe Taddei.

    • @xxsaruman82xx87
      @xxsaruman82xx87 4 роки тому +1

      Maybe Tibbett and Ruffo?

    • @xxsaruman82xx87
      @xxsaruman82xx87 4 роки тому +3

      2:57 Del Monaco too loud? When he wanted to be, Del Monaco could be incredibly subtle. Not perhaps as often as one would like, but he could sing softly.

  • @BaritoneDeLaTorre
    @BaritoneDeLaTorre 16 років тому +9

    Impresionante, la misma sonoridad (proyeccion en potencia) tanto Del Mónaco como Gobbi, difícilmente un cantante podría ponerse a la altura del grandísimo Mario del Mónaco, y Tito Gobbi hizo una interpretación sencillamente espectacular.
    Saludos.

  • @user-jt4js7ed3e
    @user-jt4js7ed3e 3 місяці тому +1

    Люблю.

  • @hswatnik
    @hswatnik 13 років тому +3

    what a great thing to hear & see- wow!

  • @sugarbist
    @sugarbist 12 років тому +2

    I would also like to say that Shicoff expressed feeling,Beautiful quality of voice& he vibrated.Extremely involved with his roles.VIBRATED

  • @frankmaiorana66
    @frankmaiorana66 2 роки тому +2

    I wonder how many times Gobbi sang Iago. He sang Scarpia in Tosca 879 times.

  • @user-jt4js7ed3e
    @user-jt4js7ed3e 6 років тому +3

    Есть же чудасия на свете - влюбиться в человека, (которого едва знавал когда-то через СМИ) после его смерти..

  • @boxingin
    @boxingin 15 років тому +12

    Greatest Baritone of all time!

  • @occhioverde71
    @occhioverde71 12 років тому +4

    Per me Tito Gobbi è stato il più grande baritono della seconda metà del Novecento insieme a Bastianini. Ho letto l'accesa discussione... Si può preferire l'uno o l'altro, ma stiamo, pur sempre parlando di una Ferrari e di un'Aston Martin. Se paragoniamo questi mostri sacri a quegli inetti che circolano nei Teatri italiani, ci dendiamo conto di quanto siamo sfortunati a vivere quest'epoca e non quella di cinquant'anni addietro

  • @user-jt4js7ed3e
    @user-jt4js7ed3e 4 роки тому +2

    Гоббі.. Тіто - чисте золото. Люблю навіки. Маріо- само собою, його всі кохають.

  • @federic017
    @federic017 14 років тому +3

    Per dir male di Tito Gobbi, bisogna essere proprio in mala fede...
    Cosi vale per Del Monaco... dove sono due interpreti piu grandi di questi?
    Tutti i movimenti che fanno , sono consoni a quello che dicono... IMMORTALI!!!
    UN SALUTO

  • @fernandoaramburu228
    @fernandoaramburu228 Рік тому +1

    Esa forma de expresar de Gobbi "che al moro... ti donó" destacando lo racial es de un vero artista!

  • @r.s.401
    @r.s.401 Рік тому

    Gobbi, Del Monaco, where ar such singers and actors nowadays?

  • @paulostroff99
    @paulostroff99 12 років тому +1

    Lovely singing.TY v for posting and Candy for sharing.

  • @rdevrij
    @rdevrij Рік тому

    MAGNIFICO!

  • @sugarbist
    @sugarbist 12 років тому +1

    Perhaps the1970swere the best years forPD.He seemed to do everything well.Thanks for reminding me aboutSchicoff.I remember hearing him early on&thought that over time he would be extremely successful as his voice matured.I think he went through a period of time when he did do very well in the lyric reperoire.He seemed to be a little over exposed for a while,singing more than he should have.He usually made a good account of himself early on,then became a little erratic. But,I always enjoyed him

  • @Machevuoi99
    @Machevuoi99 2 роки тому

    Invidio gli spettatori!

  • @ST-gl1nk
    @ST-gl1nk 2 роки тому

    最強のコンビ

  • @tomterreri6364
    @tomterreri6364 5 років тому +1

    great singing......some stage presence!

  • @evandrovilasboascardoso5757
    @evandrovilasboascardoso5757 7 років тому +3

    Dois gigantes do canto. Tecnicamente, dois monstros sagrados da grande escola de canto que enfatizava a voz para as cavidades superiores(caixa de ressonância), com uso adequado da musculatura facial(Mastigação).

  • @giglistignanipinza
    @giglistignanipinza 3 роки тому +2

    I love this historical document and I'm really happy it's on UA-cam, but I listened to it thinking Del Monaco was pretty bad. Shouting, cutting notes short, sometimes not singing at all. Gobbi certainly outsings him. But I go to the comments and everyone is praising him. What on earth is going on here?

    • @stone301
      @stone301 2 роки тому

      Gobbi is better than del monaco. You’re not wrong.

  • @tropicanzio
    @tropicanzio 7 років тому +5

    Del Monaco, lui é Otello, gli altri.....imitazioni cinesi.

  • @olgamarga
    @olgamarga 17 років тому +1

    Pequeña muestra de una gran versión se adi-
    vina,pero a Tito Gobbi lo escuché fantástico.

  • @xxsaruman82xx87
    @xxsaruman82xx87 4 роки тому +8

    3:26 Who says Del Monaco couldn't hone done his voice?

  • @yaelpalombo4093
    @yaelpalombo4093 Рік тому

    💖💐💖💐

  • @josemuso1
    @josemuso1 14 років тому +4

    Both of them were gigantic, second to no ones,,,>JRT

  • @telephilia
    @telephilia 13 років тому +9

    Man, that's a lot of testosterone!

  • @federic017
    @federic017 14 років тому +4

    @31122051 Guardi, se lei risponde a tutti questi potenziali critici, diventa matto!
    a mio avviso questi due artisti, nel vero senso della parola, sono tra i più grandi interpreti di Jago e Otello, uno per l'interpretazione, l'altro per la voce, e nessuno si è mai avvicinato a tanta grandezza! un saluto, e mi scusi per il (matto). alla prossima

  • @user-du9vj9ro4c
    @user-du9vj9ro4c 2 місяці тому

    Два гения.

  • @marokt
    @marokt 16 років тому +3

    There are no better Otellos than MDM. Domingo is also great, but I wouldn't say, he's better. Here Monaco a bit spares with his voice. One year erlier in the MET he gave more. But the energy he relays is fantastic. I love his agonic pianos, while Jago spaeks about il fazzoletto. Gobbi's voice is full of irony, colours, brutality, mortal game.

    • @maximtuboltsev6046
      @maximtuboltsev6046 3 роки тому +1

      Domingo is bad! Nasal and small voice, he is not Otello!

  • @lafca88
    @lafca88 13 років тому +1

    Ma come si possono dare giudizi cosi' negativi su Tito Gobbi! Lo smentisce in pieno la sua luminosa carriera in tutti i piu' importanti del mondo! Mah che pazienza che ci vuole .. . . . . .

    • @paoloparravicini3526
      @paoloparravicini3526 3 роки тому +1

      Ma infatti non capisco come si possa dire che tito gobbi ha cantato sempre maluccio....poi ognuno ha le sue opinioni..ma secondo me tito gobbi e' stato un grandissimo baritono...oltre che un attore nato...

  • @davidgoulet399
    @davidgoulet399 6 років тому +6

    Why does every baritone become Snidely Whiplash with
    Lo vidi in man di Cassio. Verdi makes it quite clear in the score that Iago deliver the line casually.

    • @operalover3966
      @operalover3966 3 роки тому +2

      Listen to Lawrence Tibbett he does it that way

  • @merlodino1
    @merlodino1 10 років тому

    Tito Gobbi....povero Verdi....come sempre un'inarrivabile Del Monaco

    • @paolograndinetti7609
      @paolograndinetti7609 7 років тому

      Dino Merlo si é vero che Tito gobbi si prende delle libertà me é pur sempre una splendida voce

    • @brunaazzurra
      @brunaazzurra 7 років тому +3

      disprezzare l'interpretazione di un grande artista come Gobbi, per me, significa semplicemente rivelare i limiti delle proprie capacità di giudizio .

    • @evandrovilasboascardoso5757
      @evandrovilasboascardoso5757 7 років тому +1

      Verdade, Bruna. O que dizer, então, da impostação vocal dos dois, senão SOBERBOS !! Lamentavelmente, as escolas de canto atuais não exigem tanto na impostação dos futuros "Cantantes". Del Monaco e Gobbi são grandes, sobretudo na Técnica vocal(impostação e musculatura facial).

  • @Tevyeh613
    @Tevyeh613 3 роки тому +1

    Note how fast MDM takes the first verse of Si per ciel - then notable slower for Gobbi - and then...the majestic slower pace for the two of them together...Not sure what effect the conductor seeking...

  • @gaemp
    @gaemp 15 років тому +3

    is (or was) Domingo a tenor.....? please, don't joke... we can talk about Vickers or Vinay. MDM wasjust MDM, you can find critics, but he was a unique singer for one of the longest careers in opera world.

  • @francescop1023
    @francescop1023 13 років тому +1

    @31122051 e ci risiamo col più grnde baritono della storia del canto. Le ripeto, caro amico, che un cantante ò grande ( figuriamoci il più grande), quando, oltre ad interpretare magistralmente i personaggi, ne possiede appieno tutte le note, stante che, dall'unione di canto corretto e grande fraseggio sortisce un grande personaggio.In Gobbi questo aviene solo parzialmente per gli evidenti limiti tecnici ( nel registro acuto), che tuttora me lo rendono ingrato in Verdi ( Falstaff escluso) A pres

  • @mk5244
    @mk5244 5 років тому +5

    .....comparisons to those two giants on stage are unfair. You might find a few reasonable Jagos, definitely no Otello who wears more than the costume....Trying to sing like MDM would make todays singers aphon within one evening....

  • @Alex-cy3zp
    @Alex-cy3zp 2 роки тому +3

    Два титана! Bravi!

  • @phantom4087
    @phantom4087 16 років тому +1

    He's just past his prime and he's also having a bad night.

  • @sugarbist
    @sugarbist 12 років тому +2

    I did not hear Domingo live in Carmen but 1 of my few positive statements about him on YT,is that he did do a pretty good Carmen,Il Tabarro&early 1970s Trovatore.I think he is a fair to good tenor,so I really don't understand what all the fuss is.I think Tucker had a rock solid production with excellent hi-notes.Although I never heard Tucker live,I always thought it was a very formidable voice.

  • @francescop1023
    @francescop1023 13 років тому +1

    @31122051 mi perdoni caro amico se rientro in una polemica " Gobbiana". Un grande cantante ( figuriamoci il più grande) nasce da una perfetta unione di grande canto e grande fraseggio, stanti queste due caratteristiche avremmo dei personaggi impersonati alla perfezione. Questo in Gobbi avviene solo in parte, avendo il baritono veneto evidenti limiti vocali nel registro acuto, che oggi, lo rendono ingrato assai in Verdi ( eccettuato Falstaff), e in difficoltà in alcuni passaggi della Tosca

  • @Luifernal6
    @Luifernal6 4 роки тому +2

    Mario Del Monaco look like Robert Downey jr :O

  • @flavikio
    @flavikio 14 років тому

    Se volete,posso momentanemente consigliarvi sempre,rimanendo su UA-cam,un filmato dove,il fenomenale chitarrista Les Paul,l'inventore della chitarra elletrica, "Les Paul",si esibisce accanto ad un'altro grande chitarrista, Chet Atkins.
    fatemi sapere,se vi è piaciuto.

  • @ininacsot
    @ininacsot 2 роки тому

    C'est beau(je crois même que c'est en mono!) mais j'ai toujours une préférence pour la version de Karajan avec Vickers/Freni/glossop!!!!en 1974.

  • @sugarbist
    @sugarbist 13 років тому +1

    @8x8MaVerick8x8Just my opinion.As I mentioned earlier.I think Domingo's voice was more suited for roles like Traviata,Butterfly,Rigoletto,Ballo,Boheme,Fedora,Don Carlo,Werther.Louisa Miller,Hoffman Fidelio etc. and then he could have possibly crossed over to some occasional Toscas,Cavalleria,Ernani,Early Trovatore was pretty good.Maybe transitioning occasionally to the spinto roles would have put less stress on his voice.I'm still not sure that would have helped his adventurous hi notes.Continue

    • @xxsaruman82xx87
      @xxsaruman82xx87 4 роки тому

      Domingo is so nasal. And he was a lyric tenor.
      Fidelio is for dramatic tenor.

    • @sugarbist
      @sugarbist 4 роки тому

      @@xxsaruman82xx87 I'm not sure if Domingo is nasal, but he squeezes in the passaggio and higher. I HEARD HIM IN A Trovatore on the radio in the late 1970s and He sounded very fine. I saw him at the Met in I Pagliacci circa 1990 and I was very disappointed. He was okay in the few lyric portions of the opera but squeezed in the passaggio and higher, He transposed the Venti Tre Ore down a half tone to B- Flat, shortened phrases in The Vesti La Giubba, just touching the A-Natural, transposed the No Pagliaccio Non Son 1/2 tone to B-Flat and omitting the last high note in the aria. Good acting, but who cares. It was NOT a performance deserving of a supposed World Class Tenor but the group think, brain washed audience gave him great applause. I also had trouble hearing him in the passaggio and higher. I think He had a medium spinto voice and I don't get what all the fuss is about. He does very well in the Zarzuelas songs as the tessitura is low and he sounds much better. He was also on a failed campaign circa 1990s to lower the Universal Pitch. This means that every instrument would have to have been re-pitched to accommodate Mr. Domingo. In My Opinion, He was a fair to good tenor at times, but Domingo was never a great tenor.

  • @Shiflis2
    @Shiflis2 13 років тому +1

    @ezev8logos ¿Cuestión de gustos?... es cuestión de sentido común; es bueno (o fue, aunque lo siga siendo), porque así es: cantó en los mejores teatros del mundo, le pagaron espléndidamente por ello e hizo una gran carrera. Puede gustar o no, pero independientemente de los gustos: es un gran Otello. A mi particularmente "me gusta" más Vinay, pero mi gusto es poca cosa y no le resta grandeza a los grandes.

  • @elenajha4357
    @elenajha4357 2 роки тому

    Всё ждала шикарного слияния на 5:25, как у Карузо и Руффо - а слияния нет (((( .... не хватило маэстро дель Монако "мяса " в низах ((((... может просто потому что дальше от рампы стоял?

  • @sugarbist
    @sugarbist 13 років тому +2

    @8x8MaVerick8x8 Domingo also has a reputation for transposing entire operas & arias beyond acceptable practices.There's is a Di Quella Pira on YT that Domingo sings without a high note, A Ch'ella Mi Creda transposed a Half tone down on a concert platform.(World Class tenor?)PD does sound wonderful in the Zarzuelas,which carry a lower tessitura.Domingo is also a fine actor&good musician when not stressed by the heavier roles.If my profile of PD is accurate,I don't believe he is 1 of the best ever

  • @Ilvermibaleno
    @Ilvermibaleno 6 років тому +1

    Del Monaco al limite della stecca quasi sempre...

    • @guidogreco341
      @guidogreco341 5 років тому +2

      Lei confonde la stecca di biliardo con il canto..non si offenda...

    • @massimilianorossi7540
      @massimilianorossi7540 4 роки тому

      Se il ruolo di otello fosse facile l'avrebbero interpretato più artisti.Mostri sacri come Corelli e Caruso non hanno avuto il coraggio di esibirsi in questa opera,già il fatto di farla mette MDM su un piedistallo,l'averla replicata 427 volti lo mette sul gradino più alto.Se a lei non piace MDM non lo ascolti ma non dice queste eresie...

  • @mongemark
    @mongemark 15 років тому +1

    Gobbi non aveva più il timbro dei primi anni ma dire che fa schifo è solamente che vergognoso ...
    qualche anno fa fu tirata una serie di 15 francobolli con altrettanti cantanti lirici..Gobbi faceva parte di quella esigua serie (15 su 10000)
    tanto che Gualerzi fece una trasmissione ad hoc alla radio con molte puntate ...
    seguirono tante discussioni ma fu così
    Erano le poste inglesi...
    basti dire che Gobbi nel 1942 fece Wozzeck a Roma..

  • @sugarbist
    @sugarbist 12 років тому +3

    Pertile&Martinelli were wonderful Otellos.Some portions of Vickers Otello were quite good,but somehow I have the Italianate siren in my brain.I also enjor Vinay&Zenatello in the role.Enjoy

    • @tomterreri6364
      @tomterreri6364 5 років тому +1

      I saw Vickers at the Met with this role and he received a long standing ovation.

  • @79caio
    @79caio 14 років тому +1

    che del monaco sia stato un grande nessuno può metterlo in dubbio. ma che qui canti al meglio delle sue possibilità, beh mi permetto di metterlo in dubbio... tutto a mezza voce prima di "ah mille vite" per risparmiarsi. Dopo di che tutto affrettato e slegato, senza il minimo fraseggio. E aggiungo "sangue, sangue, sangue" non è in tono. Tutt'altra cosa il del monaco diretto da karaian

  • @gaemp
    @gaemp 16 років тому +3

    don't joke please........... Domingo as Otello is jast MDM's shade.

  • @Almus83
    @Almus83 15 років тому

    X DonCavagna: "Qui sembrano due amici che parlano normalmente"...non era forse nelle intenzioni di Verdi che Iago fosse rappresentato come un brav'uomo esteriormente?

  • @sugarbist
    @sugarbist 13 років тому +1

    @8x8MaVerick8x8As a baritone,it's not really confusing.When a tenor sings as a baritone, the tessitura is obviously lower& the voice is more comfortable because it's not being stressed& taxed as it is in the tenor roles.Voices do darken with age &it seems that Domingo is in a comfort zone with Boccanegra,which is fine.I'm really not sure why PD has a problem with his top,But when singing the lighter roles like Traviata,Butterfly&Rigoletto,PD doesn't seem to have too much trouble with high notes,

  • @sugarbist
    @sugarbist 13 років тому +1

    @8x8MaVerick8x8 When Domingo sings the spinto roles like Aida Chenier Trovatore etc. He seems to labor significantly,shortening his phrasing&squeezing out his hi notes which often fall short,perhaps because of the demanding tessitura or because his voice is not suited for the spinto roles as the voices I mentioned earlier.I saw him in Pagliacci in the 90s & he was hardly audible.He also left out the 2nd B natural in No Pagliaccio Non Son which I thought the 1st was a B flat. A WORLD CLASS TENOR?

  • @abracadabranque
    @abracadabranque 12 років тому

    Gobbi est vénéneux à souhait;pas toujours très juste sur certaines notes,mais,au début tout du moins, dans le ton du personnage,même si ses aigus droits gâtent la prestation.Cela finit un peu malheureusement en concours de braillements...

  • @amantedellopera1681
    @amantedellopera1681 2 роки тому

    This is not either singer at their best,a much better example is here on u tube del monaco and renato capeicki,singing to die for and great acting by capecki

  • @raythetse
    @raythetse 16 років тому

    to be honest I think i jumped the gun on saying macneil was better than gobi, but Vickers still IMO was a way better othello, even though he wasn't nearly the singer. His performances were just so intense it was amazing.

  • @DonCavagna
    @DonCavagna 15 років тому

    Sul Iago di Gobbi devo dire che è bravo ma ha colleghi coevi che, secondo me, gli stanno 4 spanne sopra. Penso a Warren e Colzani, più melliflui.
    Qui sembrano due amici che parlano normalmente, mentre qui Iago lo mette nella rete... Purtroppo Iago non è Scarpia, comunque AVERCENE oggi!

  • @tomterreri6364
    @tomterreri6364 5 років тому

    anyone know the year of this live video?

    • @denisotello6474
      @denisotello6474 5 років тому +1

      In the description of this video 1959.

    • @tomterreri6364
      @tomterreri6364 5 років тому +1

      @@denisotello6474 Thanks Denis......two superstars.......pretty good acting as well

  • @ransomcoates546
    @ransomcoates546 4 роки тому

    Why is Gobbi distorting the vowels? And DM just was not in good voice that night. There are other of these Japanese performances where he is very much his titanic self.

  • @remomazzetti8757
    @remomazzetti8757 4 роки тому

    Too many cuts in this performance.

  • @juanmlleras
    @juanmlleras 16 років тому

    I agree with you, I saw McNeil in 1973 and he was pretty boring as Jago.

  • @flavikio
    @flavikio 14 років тому

    cercate Chet Atkins & Les Paul
    brano 1/2

  • @cantanteporsiempre
    @cantanteporsiempre 14 років тому +1

    jajajaja, las piernitas de Del Monaco!

  • @sugarbist
    @sugarbist 13 років тому +1

    @8x8MaVerick8x8 Domingo has a fine quality of voice, but as you say he does not have the thrust to be a spinto.Other fine lyric spintos are Bjorling, Bergonzi,Peerce,Lamberti,Prevedi,Aragall,& perhaps Raimondi.Domingo does not compare in size of voice to Spinto tenors like Bonisoli, Tucker,Barioni,Campagnano,Fillipeschi,Volpi,Caruso,De Muro,Corelli,Martinucci,Penno&Limarilli.Aound1990Domingo went on an unsuccessful campaign to lower the universal pitch.Every instrument would have to be repitched

    • @xxsaruman82xx87
      @xxsaruman82xx87 4 роки тому

      You forget Di Stefano! Perhaps the greatest lyric tenor of them all! Also Lauri-Volpi, Barioni and Filippeschi are most definitely lyric tenors!

    • @sugarbist
      @sugarbist 4 роки тому

      @@xxsaruman82xx87 In my opinion, Di Stefano had the most beautiful voice I ever heard. I saw him at Carnegie Hall Circa 1962. His voice is much the same as we hear it on records. Rich round beautiful tone with gorgeous overtones in the theater. Carnegie Hall holds about 2800 and I purposely sat at the back of the Hall and could hear GDS without a problem. The only slighly negative thing I can say is that the B-Natural in the Nessun Dorma was muscular but oddly enough traveled well in the Hall. Volpi was a great High note theatrical tenor. Some people have described his voice as a lyric dramatic or lyric spinto. My Mother and father saw him several times in Rome and said his voice traveled further than any tenor he ever heard. Check out his Ugonotti Bianca Al Par here on YT. Del Monaco said that if Barioni is successful, we could all be looking for new careers. He has a most beautiful Fanciulla. Filippeschi never sang in America. In my opinion, His repertoire and style was much like Volpi's but to a lesser degree

  • @nisticom
    @nisticom 16 років тому

    Do you even know what "sharp" means?

  • @JackRance1910
    @JackRance1910 12 років тому +2

    Del Monaco has his critics but they usually fall silent regarding his Otello. Here, however, his phrasing is "clipped" and he (and indeed Gobbi) want to get the duet over as soon as possible. Gobbi also throughout does almost nothing with his role whatsoever. A great Otello and a passable Iago giving a relatively substandard performance which has moments of interest.

  • @sugarbist
    @sugarbist 13 років тому +2

    @williamforever1958Like DelMonaco or not.Vickers voice was very pitchy and fatty, Although he was impressive at times.Domingo is plainly not suited for the role.Domingo is a lyric spinto at best and simply doesn't compare to the great Dramatic Otello's. Like Martinelli, Merli,Zenatello Pertile Piccaluga Vinay.Del Monaco also had impeccable diction&phrasing, along with a capability in the Recitatives that Domingo never had.Del Monaco never had the priviledge of enhancing his recording as PD did

  • @rosemaryallen2128
    @rosemaryallen2128 2 роки тому

    On a relatively trivial note, one can't help noticing the comical effect of the fashion for belting tunics far too high. Such a shame to be distracted by such a detail! And why is Iago kitted out like a nobleman? He is a soldier, and not the highest rank, at that!

  • @matteogasparri5963
    @matteogasparri5963 8 років тому +1

    qui Gobbi è molto meglio di Del Monaco vocalmente...e lo dice una grande fan di Del Monaco

    • @Ilvermibaleno
      @Ilvermibaleno 6 років тому

      Ma si, qua del monaco non ce la fa prorpio, urla tutto, non ha fraseggio...serataccia per lui.

  • @GermanOperaSinger
    @GermanOperaSinger 16 років тому +1

    Past his prime? In 1959 he still had plenty of voice. But he is very disappointing here. Nothing compared to several of his other performances. I don't think most people going to see these performances has the original score in front of them and so I never take this part of the 'interpretation' into consideration. Verdi may or may not have approved. del Monaco was a great Otello and that was that. Not the greatest, but certainly the best we've had in the past 50 years.

    • @xxsaruman82xx87
      @xxsaruman82xx87 4 роки тому

      I would say Del Monaco was the greatest Otello ever.