DEFECTIVE Parts = Engine Failure 16-22 Colorado / Canyon 2.8L Duramax

[@zaucy_]

Dude your editing style of randomly cutting to you doing something COMPLETELY outta pocket never fails to crack me the hell up 😂😂 when you smacked the oil pan off I absolutely lost it. Watching your videos is so relaxing for me after a long day/week working on many of the same engines I watch you tear down, cursing you for how easy it is for you to remove certain parts since the engine is out of the vehicle LOL

[@emcsquar3db]

We live for water pump tosses..

[@liver.flush.maestro]

@@emcsquar3db Or squishes 🙂

[@zaucy_]

@@liver.flush.maestro or demolishes

[@bartsarton2212]

I had to re-watch it.
It was so funny!

[@smillman437]

Or water pump burials

[@Joserocha-wm9de]

Saturday night isn't complete without a I Do Car's video 👌

[@EarlSinclair97]

Kids are in bed, wife's asleep on the sofa, and I'm watchin' Eric teardown a junk Minimax.
Exciting Saturday nights. 😄

[@Adrian-qc7ky]

As a diesel Colorado owner, I'm excited to finally see the disassembly of one of these engines 😀

[@davidtappe5337]

I just left an over crowded Christmas party to come home and see this. Thanks buddy!!

[@tristanoliva]

The earlier LWN engines had issues with injectors sticking open and melting pistons. Later on they updated the injectors and supposedly fixed the issue!

[@FPRESLEY1]

In theory

[@ericvanswoll4611]

It clearly has injector issues, no flame travel on the piston tops at all

[@nahrens223]

I believe all year models had a problem with extremely thin turbo compressor fins that would bend flat or break off if they were exposed to snow or ice.

[@frazzledude]

That is an excellent guess. It could be an injector that is stuck open, or maybe has a damaged tip. Either way, it was pouring unburned fuel on top of that piston. There may also have been an aggressive tune that cracked those pistons from very early injection timing.

[@tristanoliva]

@@nahrens223 yes that too!

[@09corvettezr1]

The balance shafts in an inline 4 cylinder are indeed timed. They spin at twice the speed of the crank, and are timed such that the counterweights are both pointed towards 6 o’clock when either pair of companion pistons (1&4 or 2&3) are at TDC, which for complicated reasons are only partially cancelled out by the opposing pair being at BDC. The balance shafts spin in opposite directions to each other to cancel out some of the other forces they create themselves. When one counterweight points towards 3 o’clock the other points to 9 o’clock and vice versa.

[@rockymountainjazzfan1822]

The 2.8L Baby Duramax is essentially a variation on the 2.8L CRD VMMotori (Italy) diesel engine found in the 2005-2006 Jeep Liberty in the U.S. The GM version was built in Thailand. The Liberty 2.8L CRD was a pre-MY2007 engine, so it had no DPF or DEF equipment. It had EGR which was often problematic. It also had issues running smoothly with the stock computer settings because of the emission controls. Aftermarket tuning solved most of those issues. The biggest mechanical issue with the engine was the timing belt--more accurately, with people failing to replace it when it should have been replaced. (The timing belt replacement is not cheap--about $1,500 if done by an auto shop.) The 2.8L is an interference engine, so a broken timing belt in the 2.8L will usually wind up with bent or broken valves and potential piston damage. Properly maintained, the 2.8L should last for many miles. The engine is not that uncommon in Europe. It has been used in Jeep vehicles there for considerably longer than it was in the U.S. and is used in some other Europe-sold vehicles, as well. It also has been sold in an industrial and tractor engine variant in Europe and elsewhere for years. I bought a 2005 Jeep Liberty new with the 2.8L CRD engine. I still own it and drive it almost daily. I would be hesitant to buy a Colorado/Canyon equipped with the 2.8L because of the emission system-related issues, but I feel the same way with almost all 2007+ MY diesels in the U.S. Too bad--I've been around diesel engines for going on a half-century, but the current generations of emission controls have cratered their overall reliability.

[@user-zp1ms6tv9f]

I don't know if it is the same engine but here in Australia I have just had the timing belt replaced 150000 kms on my 2.8l turbo diesel Colorado a holden GM product $1300aus its not a bad engine but a bit clogged in the intake needs a cleanup really trying to get away with it

[@HR-rt9nh]

Howdy, i installed an oil catch can so what goes back to the engine is bit cleaner. removes about a cups worth of water/oil/soot every oil change. I think is helping to keep the engine a tad cleaner... 120k miles on a 2017 so far engine sounds good, pulls good, and oil tests show all is well.

[@1320pass]

Chucking the water pump into the woods was Mint. 👌 Quite a while back had a LLY in the shop with the same piston torched like that #7 I think, but the blocks are Hard, took some crocus cloth wrapped around a socket and sanded off the aluminum that was torched to the bore, got a donor #7 rod and piston, new bearing and ring set, put it back on the road. Ran like a champ. A stuck injector will mess them up in a hurry. You do good videos man. 👍

[@rmp5s]

Wow. That piston cracking like that is pretty impressive...the fact that it was still in one piece is even MORE impressive!!

[@francisbeaudry8598]

like racing stuff its forge ,,,,,,not hypeureitic scrap like new génération

[@fireflyraven2760]

Ford had that problem with the 6.4 power stroke but that was due to the fact that they were fast instead of forged

[@timgooding2448]

Although it carries GM’s Duramax badge, it’s actually designed and built by Fiat-owned Italian engine maker VM Motori which supplies engines to GM and other major car brands including Jeep.

[@timothybayliss6680]

So was the 3.0 diesel used in ram 1500 trucks and EU/Aus 300C. It was designed when Fiat was partnered with GM for Cadillac in EU.

[@timgooding2448]

@@timothybayliss6680 Hadn't thought of that one. Cheers.

[@efanclublolsmaforlife2501]

Was not fair at the time gm got hand on it

[@faithandfarmingtennessee872]

GM had a license from VM motori to build the 2.8l in their own plant. I believe it was one in Thailand. I'm not 100% sure they didn't take a couple of liberties with the design.

[@72xafalcon]

This is why motori have such a bad name, they're own by FIAT (Fix It Again Tony) and they blow up so often, SAIC MOTOR from China build a motori engine under licence in China and fit it to thier range of LDV vehicles (T60 utes, G10, V80 and Delivere 9 vans and D90 suv)

[@codakreaper]

The thin metal lower pans on most GM vehicles that are glued on are considered one time use. They bend so easily and even minor deflections end up leaking. As a GM tech, I've only seen a few of those engines come in for problems. One for compression, just like that one there. Time is just a jig that bolts onto the head and a socket fits where that plug is. They can be a bear in the vehicle. 20lbs of crap in a 5lb bag. Seen more wiring chaffing on the engine harnesses more than I've changed the oil on them.

[@karlschauff7989]

Most guys are just glad GM isn't using plastic lower pans.

[@garage5125]

When i saw the torched piston and heard you talking about the wrist pin, it gave me vibes of an engine you probably don't know, the belarussian д-245 (D-245) 4.75 (sometimes more) liter four cylinder diesel engine with power from like 70 to over 150 kilowatts (roughly 90-200+hp) used in pretty much everything from belarussian tractors to small trucks and smallеr russian buses with up to 10 tons when fully loaded. Yes a 4.75 engine with 120hp is used for pulling over seven tons daily. But what i want to say is than those engines can BREAK A WRIST PIN in normal engine operation!!! But the thing is they still run for a while because the pin gets splitted longitiudally in half, so they still can hold the piston set together. No confirmed idea why, i would think its material or heat treating issue, but somehow the pin always splits like a log and not break in half like the forces would try to do so. On flip side when they are well done, they can sometimes still last suprisingly long, which is impressive for a relativly small engine pulling permanently over seven tons. It would be nice to you do a disassembly on one of those, though they are probably not in your place much. But if you do, be warned that the engine weighs like half a ton so don't even think about the small orange engine stand😂

[@life_of_riley88]

Back when us jeep guys ran the predecessor of this engine, the 2.8 CRD in our 05-06 Liberty's, we'd commonly just put a plug in the egr tube. The engine management didn't notice and the little diesels ran great. It was a nice package and was a relevant car for a long time, often returning 25-30+mpg.

[@JROC734]

I think a tear down of an old Mitsubishi 6G72TT from a 3000GT VR4 or Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo would be cool to see.

[@davidtappe5337]

If he could find one.

[@timothybayliss6680]

The 3.5l dohc 6g74 from hyundia/kia vehicles is almost identical. Seriously, same heads and crankshaft, bigger bore block. If you swapped intake/exhaust manifolds and the water pipe/sensors its a direct swap

[@afhostie]

Or the Nissan 300zx engine

[@zachlafond2652]

I just saw a mint 3000gt the other day here in Wisconsin. Rare sight.

[@williamjames5129]

I just sold a 16 canyon with this engine. 125k with no engine or diesel/emissions failures, but I did an emissions legal tune to reduce egr and soot ingestion to help prevent some of the issues seen here. The newer 3.0 duramax (LZ0) has the egr placed after the particulate filter, which hopefully helps as well. I knew of 2 failure modes in the engine, stuck injectors (torching a piston, likely this failure) and ironically, broken wrist pins. Thanks for the videos.

[@young11984]

What was left of the head if the combustion chamber saw enough cylinder pressure to break that 1/2” wall wrist pin?

[@Ariccio123]

I'm curious - what does the emissions legal tune do to reduce the issues?

[@williamjames5129]

@@Ariccio123 it was a green diesel engineering tune. Basically changes injection timing and runs a bit more lean (like a diesel was meant to run). Soot is a product of incomplete combustion but lean combustion produces NOx which is a pollutant. The diesel emissions fluid treats the NOx, but the manufacturer balances DEF use with the egr to control emissions. The tune makes more NOx so it used more def (which meant I refilled the tank every 4-5k miles vs 7.5k miles). A compromise I was happy with. Oh, and you get more power and better fuel economy as well.

[@williamjames5129]

@@young11984 there was a long discussion on the Colorado fans forum about this. One of the vendors obtained a failed wrist pin and sent it off for metallurgical analysis. Based on inspection it appeared that the pin had been improperly hardened by the supplier. When the vendor received the analysis back, they suddenly went radio silent, and it was suggested that perhaps GMs legal team got involved (the vendor was an engineering firm in Detroit who had some connections to GM).

[@McDubz]

​@@Ariccio123 the EGR on the LWN can be electronically opened or closed, I believe as part of the exhaust brake feature (?) so the GDE tune is able to leave it closed or partially closed more iirc

[@georgerenton965]

Thank you for the deep dig into the 2.8. I have one in a 2017 Canyon. I’ve always wanted to see the internals, in a non destructive manner, and
definitely not on my dime. I used to work at a Cummins factory service and sale’s facility in Ontario Canada in the early to mid 70’s. Rebuilt lots
of truck engines. Heat cracking on the piston crowns in NTS 350 HP engines was not uncommon. Those engine where very popular in large
highway trucks pulling up to 140.000 lbs. I owned one for about 4 years, then had an NTC 400. I put over 3 million kms over 26 years in that
truck. 3 in frames and an out of frame block exchange, let’s just say I learned how long it took to wear things out.
As for the 2.8 I’ve got 122.000 kms on it with the only problem being the exhaust system which was covered under warranty. Good thing, the
bill was 5 k. It’s a stock truck, no power enhancements. I’m happy the way it is. Pull trailers often. Grossed 12.300 lbs. good mileage loaded
and empty. From your video it looks well put together. Are those Teflon skirts on the piston ? The pistons might have steel Re enforcement
inside the upper piston. This would help to prevent the piston from scattering even as damaged as it is. I use Delco Dexsos 2. Change every 8K.

[@sfbfriend]

It is obvious a LOT of techs watch this channel. I love reading the comment section as much as I enjoy watching Eric. Thanks to all of you for an amusing and educational videos. Merry Christmas to all of you

[@waynegalvin4639]

That engine could be easily rebuilt, that being said you made this tear down look easy!

[@akashmohan999]

Ayy! Just as I was thinking "he should do a GM 3800 v6" which my 2007 Pontiac grand prix has but then he says "finding a blown up 3800 is difficult". And yeah mine runs like new, and that's after i went hard on it when i was a teenager in high school, like flooring it when freezing cold and low on oil, going on long oil change intervals, using crappy conventional oil, letting the coolant run out multiple times, all that crap i now know you should never do. And it still starts up and runs like new today (never been repaired), no weird noises, no problems, nothing. It's treated much better today though, i was not car savvy back then. I'm Running Mobil-1 full synthetic at 7k intervals, check the dipstick regularly. Only floor it when hot.

[@kd7cwg]

Might be easier to find a 3400😂. Then again mine is running perfect at 265k. Most people don’t maintain them which is why they fail

[@jasonmarks1636]

I have this motor in my 2018 GMC Savanna work van. I've had 4 GMC Van's and this one is quite comparable to the vortec 350, believe it or not.. The power band is in a different place. I run Penzoil Euro Platinum Dexos 2 oil in it. They spec Dexos 2 (which is hard to find). Also run ArchOil 6500 and 9100 in it. No problems with it to date except a failed Nox sensor. I change the oil every 5 thousand . Always use the AC Delco filters. I have to order them, not availible in my town. it doesn't burn oil. Great motor. Just take care of it, run #2 diesel and it will serve you well. 80 percent of my mileage is highway. I have no trouble getting into regen on my way home from work.
Yes, you do have to get over how much the oil pressure fluctuates.. I was freaked out when I first got my new van.. The oil pressure was all over the map... Variable oil pressure pump...

[@DeltaKilo77]

I have a 2018 Chevy Colorado ZR2 with the 2.8L diesel. Over a 100,000 miles now. I have run Amsoil in it since it was new and always use a diesel fuel lubricant to make sure I have no issues with the injectors. It's never been to the dealer for anything.

[@billeldon]

Hoping for the same for the 2019 I bought in 2022 to tow my camper. 38.5K when I got it, 75k now. Using fuel lube now and NOT going with factory oil change intervals.

[@user-ux4iu7us7p]

@@billeldon
Same here, hot shot secrets and 2500 mile oil changes using Dexos 2 oil. Also, BlueDEF Platinum as it does not crystallize and has additives to prevent deposit buildup in the SCR.

[@HR-rt9nh]

2017 Colorado Z71 2.8 120k miles engine is good, i started oil tests last year and results are great, Blackstone tells me i could stretch out to 7k intervals, currently i change oil at 5k ish. I use Supertech oil from walmart, its Dexos 2, and having done my homework on fluids, i can say as long as the Doexos2 stamp is on bottle and certifications on back of bottle your good to go. same with the DEF fluid, I get the supertech brand. does not crystalize, and the quality is on par with the big name brands.

[@adotintheshark4848]

I'd like to see you do either a VW VR6 or W8. That would definitely be interesting!

[@Charly_Dont_Surf]

I second this

[@igormac88]

A W8 must be veeery hard to find to do this, but definitely would be really interesting

[@adotintheshark4848]

didn't VW or Audi have a W10 as well?@@igormac88

[@EarlSinclair97]

Tore down a VR6 out of '90 Corrado once.

[@timothybayliss6680]

The w8 is magic German kung fu. There was a 72° (15-57-15?) W10 version that was build as a response to the BMW 5.0 V10 that was supposed to make 500hp.

[@JohnnyAFG81]

A hole like that in the piston is from a faulty injector.

[@capnkwick4286]

And I would bet something broke off the (an?) injector to cause the dings all over the head of the piston.

[@JohnnyAFG81]

@@capnkwick4286 true that!

[@VStar1749]

There is one engine that I'll bet you have never dismantled, mainly because there would be very few in the US and the fact that they very rarely break, that is the Aussie designed and built Ford Barra 4L straight 6. Its probably the best six cylinder ever made by Ford and its now extinct! Designed and built at the Victorian Geelong plant it powered most falcons built from 2002 until it ended in 2016. Drag boys regularly extract over 1500hp (stock bottom end) out of these engines and its not unheard of for them to do over 300,000miles with regular maintenance. By the way you do a very good presentation with your vids. Going to be a different world when I see you stripping down electric motors!!

[@OWNER132]

This channel randomly popped into my feed months ago and it has quickly become one of my favorite channels!!! Not only am I learning a lot about how engines work, but you’re also friggin’ hilarious. Keep up the amazing work and happy holidays!

[@andrewbranson8539]

Depending on the year, there's about a 1 in 3 chance I either put the passenger side motor mount or the catalytic converter on that motor.

[@8180634]

Going by what you saw, how was the quality of build labor on these things? I've got a 2017 diesel.

[@andrewbranson8539]

@8180634 As far as the actual assembly of the engine and internals, they come to us already assembled. We just put all the accessories, coolant lines, and wiring harnesses on.

[@thelonelywolf88]

I swear, these last few weeks, I've always been looking on youtube at the PERFECT TIME. Usually uploaded a few seconds ago, or one minute ago lol

[@TassieLorenzo]

It would be really fun to get one of the Nissan VC-Turbo variable compression engines on the channel. The crankshaft assembly should be quite something on those, very unusual. Apparently they aren't that reliable so hopefully there are some failed ones out there!

[@cageordie]

I have 3.0 a VM diesel. Every time I see a diesel torn down I swear it will be my last. I gave up worrying about what diesel engine oil looks like when I drove a 7.3 Ford diesel. Change the oil, drive it three miles, check the oil and it's pitch black again.

[@Gapines23]

I put 145k on mine without issue. Now in tank fuel lift pump and the HPFP well those were another story. Finally traded her in for Hemi but 4 mile instead of 50 mile made the VM tough to get hot. Sadly in Georgia it’s about 4k less than Hemi on a trade though

[@bradhaines3142]

dont even need to drive 3 miles. just run it long enough to double check for leaks, and its black. i blame the turbos cooking the oil, though im sure the diesel itself is more of the issue

[@84gssteve]

Yea, most HUIE engines keep several quarts of oil in the high pressure oil system to fire the injectors. Not to mention another quart of residuals and oil trapped in troughs. In the end about 3 of the 12 or so quarts of oil you have in the engine after a service is old and black, hence the immediate darkness.

[@cageordie]

@@Gapines23 Mine is coming up on 229k. It cost the warranty department about $30k in work, but to me I guess it has been pretty good. Fuel economy took a major hit with the emissions reflash though. At current fuel prices I wouldn't touch a diesel for what I do. Not enough towing to justify it.

[@jonnantau9354]

Turbos do not cook oil. Running alot of EGR on a diesel it what makes the oil so black.​@bradhaines3142

[@aarontuerk7829]

150k miles on my 16' 2.8 duramax engine ,has been mechanically sound and excellent engine in the colorado platform. Ive seen plenty sold in my area , really wish GM hadn't of scraped it in their 3rd gen colorado / canyon.

[@robertwaidman4170]

Still laughing about the way you edited the removal of the lower oil pan. Fantastic!

[@typrus6377]

On some heavy equipment, they are moving away from EGR and instead using additional DEF to address the NOX. So far, the oil stays cleaner for longer is the most obvious direct impact, with slight improvements to fuel useage (although the engines that had this change done also had whole new fuel systems fitted as well as head redesigns, so what all contributes to the efficiency is up for debate) We shall see if overall engine longevity improves, as is generally anticipated in the technician circles.

[@bcredeur97]

That sounds so much nicer! EGR is the worst lol

[@timewa851]

neighbor bought one used, 38k miles.
went into limp mode day one. Seems the previous owner didn't feed it the DEF it needed.
It ate/plugged the catalyst. Neighbor got a loaner, GM footed the $1,600. bill.
Thing drives NICE. Takes off wonderfully for a baby 4x4. Took weeks but Free is Free. : )

[@huskers1278]

We just delete all our shit. Fuck the feds lol

[@Iceeeen]

To my knowledge the twin scr is patented by Scania so will proably be some time before you find it in anything else than vw group
And no DEF will not plug a catalyst!, that is a myth. It becomes pluged if you run to short cycles and never allow it to regen or that some thermostat is broken so it can't reach operatiing temperture

[@jamesmedina2062]

if it means anything my gasser turbo does not use EGR and does not suffer from as bad intake valve deposits as others. It still has yucky oil due to direct injection but it does seem overall cleaner engine staying free of EGR

[@ffghv1]

someone 30 years down the road is going to find a random water pump in the middle of the woods and going to wonder how in the hell it got there 😂

[@dot6849]

I really like that you tear them down the same way each time. It helps to learn all the parts.

[@mnorth24]

Your outdoor shenanigans with good parts is pure gold.

[@grsofia01]

Please don't litter.

[@jonsmith1914]

I love how passive-aggressive you've gotten when it come to water pumps and timing chain guides. LOL

[@84gssteve]

The sensor in the bottom end is probably a crankcase pressure sensor. To treat PCV emissions going into the intake, most modern diesels have crankcase ventilation filters built into some sort of catch can. When the filter gets loaded with liquid oil/sludge, the increased crankcase pressure will be read by the sensor and trip a filter change notice or at least an SPN to guide you to that maintenance item. All that carbon in the intake is typical for heavily EGR'ed engines. Using SCR fluid to treat NoX outside the combustion chamber can help reduce EGR flow and sooting, but I'll never figure out why more brads didn't do like CAT and take the exhaust into the EGR AFTER the DPF! It would still be inert and devoid of oxygen, but more importantly there would be almost no carbon to foul things up. It's ironic that a company (CAT) who didn't want to pursue emissions compliant road engines was the only one who came up with this!

[@ZeDestructor00]

I suspect they pick it before the DPF in order to improve emissions before the the DPF gets up to full operating temperature, which lets them meet temissions just that tiny bit cheaper. As others have said, the better way (by far) is to just use more DEF and treat it in SCR instead of EGR.

[@Jakek200]

3.0L Duramax has post catalyst/DPF EGR, iirc it has a valve to select if it comes from before or after the DPF which I think is done for temperature reasons. So maybe it's starting to catch on for other companies.

[@Bpf1893]

This engine does not have a PCV filter/catch can from factory. It’s a very common mod to install one though.

[@kain0m]

Low pressure EGR comes with a host of its own Problems. Most manufacturers are moving away from Lp-Egr again, because it typically isn't worth the trouble.
A little soot in the oil usually isn't a problem; graphite is a lubricant after all. The issues with low pressure EGR is icing in the intercooler, poor combustion stability in cold, increased boost temperature, etc.
Fouling of the High pressure EGR System can be avoided with proper calibration of the ECU, basically the warmup phase is critical. During warmup, the soot cake that forms in the intake system needs to be saturated by condensation, so that when the exhaust gasses warm up the water boils off and breaks off chunks of soot. The issue arises when manufacturers don't know about this and focus the aarmup phase solely on emissions... It can make or break an entire engine family.

[@wjs1820]

I found your channel after a friend's Cummings boat engine ate a valve seat. Since I've been looking for a new truck, I've watched a ton of your videos as research. My old silverado 1/2 ton lasted 22 years. Seeing what your exposing on the new engines, I wish I kept it. Diesel is where I was heading but the added emission equipment seems to be the kiss of death. Thanks for all you do.

[@StevePhillips76]

I have seen this kind of piston damage before, usually from a bad injector spraying raw fuel (not atomizing) but that was not on a common rail engine, other times that I saw this kind of damage the timing advance failed but it damaged all of the cylinders (mostly uniformly). Great video, and thank you for sharing!

[@bearsfan2085]

That sir clip had some hang time! Dang! 😂

[@chrisrobinson8937]

I'd like to see a Cadillac 500 or 472. They were pretty advanced for their time. High nickel block, external oil pump, no coolant in the intake, relatively light weight for their Era.
I like old stuff too.
Maybe a straight 8 Buick? Lol

[@donthewellguy]

I genuinely like every Saturday evening tear down. I look forward to them.
I do like when you take older, more basic engines. Like 90’s LT1’s to show how far engines have come. Even small and big blocks from the 70’s and 80’s… They’re cheap…

[@seasean9]

I have one of these and it was cool seeing it get completely broken down. Thanks for the video.

[@Bigdaddyslasher]

That blow by was epic. I don't understand why manufacturers say do 10,000 mile oil changes on diesel engines.

[@Velkanis]

video just in time to eat dinner! amazing timing eric!
also after seen these engines in their international form (LDV/Maxus T6 from VM motori) i can tell this only happened because the owner didnt know (probably first diesel kept this long?) you have to get your injectors checked every so often (i personally advice for whenever it needs a valve cover gasket, its cheap insurance) for leakdown/return leak.
id say this engine had at least 150k miles or closer to 200k and the rearmost injectors where having a bad time too worn to meter fuel in properly resulting in that torched piston

[@genuismensa]

If it is broken it is a 2016 or earlier 2017. Ask me how I know... I had one of these. New turbo, new def system, new transmission, new tq converter, new sharkfin antenna, a complete new rear harness which meant the truck was cab and box off before 20k miles. After my truck GM wrote a TSB about the harnesses grounding out on various parts like the transmission in my case. My 2016 CCLB Colorado Z71 was a nightmare. I loved the idea of it, but it just wasn't built like a mini version of a duramax truck. It is an s10 with an Italian designed diesel made in Thailand by Isuzu lol. I can't believe that truck was 42k USD brand new in 2016! That engine was a 6,000 dollar upgrade, and only available in two trim levels at first. This one did not get frequent oil changes. They are spendy to do with all the good oil it needs and oil filter. The stealership wanted 120 bucks for a full synthetic and a tire rotation.

[@edlafond1]

Yes! The 2.8 baby max....thanks for this one!

[@Bowhunters6go8xz6x]

Cracked and Burned through pistons on the 2.8L Duramax are known problems of that engine supposedly caused by fuel injection issues. IMO that super thick coating of black soot would prove that out on this engine but that is IMO. Also IMO the owner wasn't doing his oil changes !

[@MrSweetHart6976]

Every once in a while I would love to see a tear down of a good working super high mileage (close to a million miles) reliable engine, just to see the minimal wear and why they are so good.

[@davidgagliardi2388]

Me too !

[@mattysacre9011]

Hello, you should definitely teardown a GM 2.7l L3B Turbomax engine. As a 4-banger used to power full-size pickup trucks, this engine has been very controversial among mechanics and car enthusiasts.

[@tdotw77]

Yeah, I don't think this is gonna be GM's best idea
But hey, maybe they'll force people to upgrade to larger engines. Idk, but I agree w\ you - it's controversial & I don't see these lasting to 100k in fullsize truck applications. That's why the 5.3 was so popular. We will see tho👍🏻👌🏻🛠️🔩🔧

[@94XJ]

​@@tdotw77A turbo 2.7 has gone pretty well for Ford for almost a decade now, but it is curious that GM opted for a 4 cylinder. I've wondered why they didn't opt for a variant of the 3.0 turbo 6 Cadillac runs. They're already pretty high-torque at low RPM engines. *shrug*

[@raymondreiff8170]

If a Guy stopped that Stupid egr flowing and ended up good fuel injectors it probably wouldn't be a bad engine, looks like a fun high revving setup, But that's just me Liking this timing belt setup Not part of this engines failure.

[@mikenewman4078]

No they don't rev hard. 1600 RPM @ 100 km in 6th.
Max torque (500NM) at about 2000 RPM.
You'll only see them cross 3000 when you're rounding up a 4 trailer road train.

[@raymondreiff8170]

@@mikenewman4078 So redline is only 5000 rpms, I obviously have never seen one, I work on 15 liter Cummings truck engine cat DAF and Detroit at times, Have rebuilt A signiture 600 recently With the strangest fuel controls ever imo 🧐

[@IOwnCalculus]

As a LWN owner, glad to see one of these little monsters torn down. I just hope this video never becomes more relevant for me.

[@tavo24vv27]

Erics bolt bin must be on point.

[@1JackTorS]

The other day I saw a sausage delivery truck crash.
It took a turn for the wurst.

[@theassetStu]

The highlight of my Saturday evening. TY

[@Duken4evr29]

Lots of owners deleted or emissions intact tuned their 2.8s as this engine uses a ton of EGR, and as the video shows this makes one Hell of a mess. It is interesting to compare this sooty mess to the more recently designed and updated 3.0 I6 GM diesel that Eric tore down a few weeks ago, as that engine was quite clean inside at 146K miles. I have read reports that the 3.0 uses quite a bit of DEF, so it seems probable that GM lowered the 3.0's EGR dosing and increased the DEF use to compensate.
I own a '17 Canyon with the 2.8, it's been emissions intact tuned by GDE since 10K miles with 77.5K on it now, the oil looks like it came out of a gas engine at 7.5K mile change invervals, dark brown but not black, with great Blackstone analysis reports. Running Shell T6 5w40 and not that 5w30 Dexos2 crap that GM specifies. The engine is very clean, nothing like the one in this video.
It is important to run diesel lube/cleaning additive with every fill up, lots of good choice out there for additive, I like Optilube "Summer+" which I use year round. The engine runs notably better with it, very smooth. Also, the PCV valve on these apparently is from 1965, many owners run the Provent 200 catch can to deal with the resulting intake polluting turbo duct hose rotting oil mist.
So far so good with my 2.8, it is averaging 28 MPG lifetime of 77.5K miles, and is a real pleasure to drive. The combo of a small turbodiesel with 440 pound feet of torque at 2K RPM (with GDE tune) in a smaller mid size pickup really is pretty damn cool. These are definitely not jump in and drive turn key powertrains though. I love my 2.8 but wouldn't recommend it to casual drivers who aren't involved with their vehicles.
The biggest issue with these is ya can't emissions system intact EGR off tune 'em anymore in the US. As the video shows, they get jacked up with all the EGR the stock settings run. Add in the excessive PCV oil mist I mentioned earlier and the poor engine doesn't stand a chance. GM, clearly they put the work in on the 3.0 diesel. In contrast, the 2.8 diesel, which is originally a VM design, is clearly an afterthought. The engine and transmission tuning issues can be fixed, but ya gotta toss your warranty out the window.
As for the cause of failure, ya, as other said the 2.8s have had injector issues. The big diesels have them too. Use additive each and every fillup to lube and clean those sensitive high pressure injectors! I added a CAT 1R-0750 spin on fuel filter after the stock filter box on my truck to further protect the injectors.
The engine itself is pretty stout as the video shows. The catastrophic weak link seems to be holed pistons, the online consensus is those are from "stuck" injector issues. This failure is well known online, when I saw this video pop up, I thought to myself "I bet it has a holed piston" and here we are...

[@SSV-i-c-e]

1st in New Zealand 🇳🇿 and southern hemisphere probably lol.love the vids look forward to them every week

[@griffojm]

I felt my shoulder pop when you deposited the water pump. I hope you stretched before the throw!

[@mathewcurtis9401]

The head gasket, timing system and water pump jump cuts kill me, thank you for the laughs.

[@nosnhoj99]

Watched a few videos on Volkswagen VR6 videos and they seem interesting or even a VR5 or at least thats what i think VW calls their 5 cylinder motors. Great vid as always mate 👍

[@dougjones9493]

A bad injector blows a hole in the piston

[@danaitcheson9571]

Pretty common for these in this part of the world (New Zealand) to run low on oil and do damage as the engines use approx 1.5l of oil between changes. GM’s fix was a longer dipstick with new high and low marks 😂. Was surprised to see the bearings in such good shape

[@mikewilson631]

Shorter dipstick, surely? Or a longer tube.

[@danaitcheson9571]

@@mikewilson631 No, longer dipstick to reach further into the sump to allow a lower oil level before going below the low mark as they were replacing too many engines under warranty for oil use. Also the full mark was slightly higher so the amount between the 2 levels is about 1.8l instead of 1l.

[@deansapp4635]

I love these video s. I would like to wish Eric, and his family and all of you out there a Merry Christmas and happy New year, From Dean here in Maryland

[@Rodknockacres]

The cuts to you doing something ridiculous with the “reusable” parts like the water pump makes these videos even more entertaining to watch

[@TheDanwool]

My favorite engines are the ford 300 and toyota 22re. I loved your ford 300 video but haven't seen a 22re on the channel yet. Any chance that could happen?

[@tacomas9602]

Same, waiting for a 20/22R type engine review and hopefully he can also find a locked up 2rz/3rz sometime. Good little engine tho.

[@peterosmanski7466]

A cool engine to tear down would be a VW W8 or W12. Might be too rare as they haven't been made for some time.

[@killercan10]

20:06 engine oil level sensor. The pressure sensor is on the oil filter housing you can see it 18:06. Fortunately, not a variable oil pump on these but they sure do run some scary oil pressure at idle. I had a 2016 Colorado with the LWN, from brand new off the lot until I traded it with about 40k on it, it would hot idle at 15-16psi. No joke. I was further curious so I pulled the engine specs from GM Service Information and sure enough the minimum allowed oil pressure hot idle is spec'd at 10psi, and a minimum of 36psi at 3800rpm. I didn't burn any oil, only issue I had was a DEF heater failure on the DEF injector line. The other thing I found wild was they allow for a maximum of 72.5psi variance in compression pressure between 2 cylinders. So if cylinder 3 made 200psi, cylinder 4 or cylinder 2 can be allowed a 72.5psi +/- difference.

[@nswsparky]

My def line just went out for the second time this weekend. first time was under warranty this time it's on my own dollar.

[@hilltonia133]

Definitely need to see a before/after video on the Head going through the parts washer.

[@gwick358]

Missing spark plugs? That's your first clue. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣✌❤

[@nhwilkinosn]

I honestly think it's way more interesting doing these teardowns. Miles, what's bad, etc, dunno. But we get to find out!

[@lmt7816]

I love the comment you made when looking at fuel lines: "there's stuff and things!"
I may have made similar comments, on more than one occasion. 🤣

[@beccarhodes819]

Hi Eric! Me and my boyfriend watch your videos every night before bed, kind of a weird way to fall asleep but it works. He’s a huge car guy and it’s been great to get a peak into his world. You always make the explanations of the engines easy enough for me to understand. Thank you !!!

[@chases1739]

You sound like an awesome girlfriend!

[@austinjoyce7155]

The Volvo 3.2 I6 would be fun to see. Especially with the accessories and W/P being on the back of the engine.

[@jwelziscool]

Was going to comment this, or even better, the 3L turbo variant of that same motor, the SI6/B6304T4. The R.E.A.D.S. (rear engine accessory drive system) has always intrigued me on my own car with that motor, a '15 S60 T6 R-Design.

[@justsumguy2u]

I am shocked that piston #4 didn't come apart in the engine....it had to be really close to doing so. I always enjoy the water pump toss lol

[@user-mw9hq3md7y]

Let's see a tear down of a plain old Honda R18 engine, 2012 vintage. Shouldn't take long but it's a bullet proof engine IF taken care of. Let's see why they're good when new......then worn out or destroyed.
Keep up the good work. My wife even stops what she's doing to watch an engine tear down. Unreal when she does something like that.

[@I_Do_Cars]

I did one. It was catastrophic.

[@SedatedByLife]

The simplicity of its design is impressive.

[@stevenlatham4397]

When these were originally released, a 6 speed manual was supposed to be available in the lowest trim of the Canyon/Colorado. I put in an order for one and dropped an $8,000 deposit. I was warned it would be 6-8 months before delivery which I was totally fine with. 4 months into the waiting period, I get a call from the GMC dealer saying the manual option had been cancelled in the U.S, but they would upgrade me if I would take one with an Automatic. I got my money back, and am still driving the truck that I was going to trade in on that one.

[@I_Do_Cars]

With a manual, that would be a pretty cool truck.

[@justinwatts6210]

i firmly believe that if the egr system had been removed immediately this engine could probably still be on the road

[@chris3407]

I believe every automotive diesel engineer has nightmares about EGR and DPF systems.

[@8180634]

What they should have done was scavenge the EGR gas after the DPF. All that blowing the soot back into the intake is recipe for carbon build up. But then again, their goal is to get past the warranty period, and not long term. This will unfortunately hurt the brand I think.

[@Duken4evr29]

Agreed. That is why my '17 Canyon with a 2.8 got GDE emissions system intact tuned to turn off EGR electronically as soon as I could at low mileage. Doing that was a risk as it voided the warranty on an expensive vehicle that I bought new, but now my '17 is going on 80K miles so well out of it's warranty period anyway, so I guess I win 😆
The interesting thing is the oil doesn't turn black with the EGR turned off tune, you would never know it didn't come out of a gas vehicle, it's that clean. Have had zero problems with it so far. EGR is the work of the devil when it comes to diesels...

[@user-ns9ld8vv4t]

​@@Duken4evr29 GDE is an EPA snitch, who gave them his whole customer list... Including you and your truck

[@jaredkennedy6576]

Any interest in an Alfa Romeo Busso V6? I have one sitting along with a FWD transaxle that I doubt I will ever be able to get to.

[@craighall6185]

I have seen this down in NZ on these engines! They are oil burners from the factory. Here in NZ they Holden (GM) Colorado of this era, pre-2017, uses injecting diesel into cylinder 4 for the DPF regen. This can if the oiling system is tired to much heat at the crown of the piston…then…boom!

[@TestECull]

6:37 People ask why someone would 'delete' their diesel vehicle. This. This is why.

[@jellyfrosh9102]

that build up looks more like it's from idling a lot than anything else.

[@harleyfdxc]

My 2014 6.7 L Cummins breathes freely.

[@TestECull]

@@jellyfrosh9102 Or just never giving it the beans. Any engine will build up like that if it's never flogged. They need to get run WOT on the regular because it helps them clean themselves out.

[@TestECull]

15:11 Given the timing system is designed to guarantee these things die right on command I'd suspect the pistons are not substantial enough for their jobs. Either that, or someone was feeding it a bit too many beans with a bullydog or somethin'.

[@bomberaustychunksbruv4119]

Changed out a few Nissan 3Litre engines, running rough, poke a mini cam in the rear cylinder and find the bits missing, ring Nissan, new engine on a pallet !. Happy Days. Glad I don't do any of this any more.

[@RodneyMarchant-bg4hq]

The junk on the intake is soot from the EGR. A catch can is vital for long life

[@warrentinsley5490]

Look for a Volvo i5 please

[@brynjhnsn100]

He went and got that water pump out of the woods, I bet. Not his nature to leave it out there 😊

[@GHuggins]

This is actually why I got rid of and will never own another chevrolet product. I special ordered one of these in the 16 colorado. Had constant injector problems and finally started seeing metal in the oil filter after the second set. Actually fired it up one cold morning with the first replacement set and one stuck open and caused the front of the truck to bounce up and down. Drove nothing but highway making 2 hr one way trips. Alternator also stopped charging. Rearend went out. Transmission lines blew. GM dealer halfway tried to blame me for injector failures even though there were like 10 revisions at that time and all I did was drive and service it actually better than most people out there would as I relied on it to keep my business going. I later found out about GM covering up the emissions issues they had which mine had also started getting drastic mpg losses.Part of the emissions issues they were having and covering up. Think I still have the cal where they turned off the emission dtcs from the factory so you would get out of warranty right as they were failing. Wound up going Dodge and with a 110000 trouble free miles so far I haven't looked back. This was a really reliable engine before GM got their hands on it too. Sorry thing about it.

[@christopherwatson283]

3.3 LG7and 3.8 L36 L67 GM Engines are some Awesome Engines. Early 3.8s had the plastic coolant pipes leaking issues. If, you want one. Go to a wrecker service auction or 2.

[@colbygarrett03]

I think I'm the first.... I love the videos keep up the good work

[@davidandrew1078]

One minute in and 43 likes.

[@kevincurry4735]

Good evening Eric. Time for a Duramax breakdown. What destruction are we in store for tonight?

[@samholdsworth420]

Watch the video

[@joshuamartin6841]

Wow! First to catch the Saturday show!!

[@scottmiller8791]

I bet after you chucked that water pump, you went and looked for it. I love the timing chain guides and water pump takes. 😂

[@MM9Productionz]

Not supprised at all on this engine, total pile

[@lelandrogers1078]

When I was in college I had a 57 Plymouth Fury and I blew a hole in one piston on the way to work one summer. There was so much smoke that cars behind me had to pull over until the smoke cleared. I bought a lot of bulk oil to be able to drive home so I could rebuild the engine. No AAA back then.

[@justinfrappier2514]

I watched one of your old videos not long and noticed the absurds water pump trows and discarding, im happy they are back one the program !!

[@Sebastian-gj9tc]

I have a 2015 s10 chevy pickup that has this engine in it but this version has 200 hp and also 369ftp torque. And the only thing I've changed on it is the headgasket and water pump at 280.000 kilometers and now works like new. I live in south america (paraguay) and its a Brazilian model pickup its super reliable, starts in half a second every damn time.
There are also lots of people here that tune these engines up to 250hp without issues, my buddy's pickup now has about 200.000 kilometers on it with the 250 hp tune and still going strong. Good little engine.

[@BenBechaz]

I just disassembled my 2.8 duramax as had a piston failure, it actually sheered the gudgeon pin in half and cracked piston. Only had 160 thousand kilometres on it

[@qcan8468]

Future suggestion. Water pump skeet. Pull!!!

[@TestECull]

2:18 We did at my workplace the other week. A Toyota 1DZ-II in a forklift. Pretty sure it grenaded and just didn't install an inspection port 'cause it only sounds like 3 cylinders are compressing now.

[@gregoryweber7408]

sweet tear down sir this was the first time i’ve seen a hole torched in a piston