In a way, Porter fits Andrew Ryan's ideals. A man not governed by king or God. He was led by a recording of his own voice, he was basically his own man. Because he couldn't listen to anyone else
@@whichDude Ironically, Frank Fontaine is the embodiment of Ayn Rand's garbage ideology. Andrew Ryan chose to abandon his own philosophy because it was ineffective in dealing with Fontaine's criminal activity. Capitalism is the root of all evil.
Anyone else get a bit choked up at the ending? When he's visiting Pearl's grave and saying goodbye, he honestly sounds like he's barely fighting back tears. Porter's VA did a fantastic job.
Porter's VA's wife irl died about 2 or 3 months before the game was released.. some people on reddit talked about how he most likely did the voicing while he was grieving.. not sure how accurate but still sad
Jack took all those blows from enemies and numerous genetic alternating drugs and still became the Chad of all Rapture. He didnt let the splicing effects take him over
Rapture is basically hell while Columbia is essentially heaven. The lighthouse is the tower of Babel, and the one common thread between the two cities. The entire series is about redemption while at the same time refusing the laws of both heaven and hell. The series is about rebirth and people being their own masters, and creating their own paradise.
Porter's voice actor is Martian Manhunter from Justice League! I knew his voice was familiar, he did a fantastic job in this game and the part where he visits the grave made me teary and choking a bit.
In C.M. Porter's record,The Thinker says ''Hello Milton.What's the matter Milton ? Don't you still love me ?'' really sounds like SHODAN's speech from the end of System Shock 2.
The thing that messes me up the most about this ending is the last audio diary you get, “Pearl.” Imagine hearing the words “Don’t you still love me?” from a caricature of your deceased wife. A caricature… that you created. The amount of guilt he must have felt after that recording must have been too much to speak of.
@@aladushek2124 they dont. its just a common trope that supercomputer turns evil because it misinterprets commands it is given. nobody wants them to turn evil.
just finished the remastered DLC, wow that was so damn sad, but beautifully so. the devs sure like their plot twists, haven't had my jaw drop at a plot twist like that since bioshock 1. god i love this franchise so much
I freaking cried at the end. My brother (who introduced me to Bioshock and all it's glory) comes up to the "gaming room" and sees my crying. He first looks at me then looks at the screen and says "You just finished Minerva's Den?" I nod. He says "Yeah, it got me too."
once i heard the recording from ported about everyone who gets captured turning into big daddies i thought it was obvious that sigma was porter so it didn't come as a suprise well it came as a suprise because it turned out i was right
I thought porter would have the same fate as sinclare or you'll meet him as a big daddy before fighting the boss. Either that or since I heard that he escaped the prison, I thought, well so did lamb... Oh shit so did lamb! Making me believe he was working for lamb
Yami6692 Except that the main character had accelerated aging and died about 10 years later. He only just had enough time to see the girls he saved grow up and live the lives Rapture never would have given them. It is the happiest ending the series has had, but still ever so slightly bittersweet.
Yami6692 Didn't know that. I assumed the aging continued through his whole life, plus on his deathbed, the hands that held his all looked very slender and young, around 20-ish.
After seeing what Rapture looked like in its glory days, in the opening scenes of Burial At Sea, having to see the once-beautiful and magnificent city wrecked and ruined like it is in the games kinda hurts....I'd love to see a Bioshock that takes place in the pre-fall Rapture where you can explore and visit every district of the city you see in 1 and 2 and see the city as it was before everything went pear-shaped.
@8bit NES Cutscene You would fight nothing. it would be a story driven world exploration game where you nose around places and talk to characters, new and familiar faces discovering and learning more about rapture and it's inhabitants
I guessed the twist when I heard the voice log at 3:00, but the end was still so effective. The piano music during the final parts were so sad, and I spent a good minute just looking at the photos of Milton and Pearl on the wall just feeling depressed. Milton's voice actor did a great job. Also the gravestone at the end shows Pearl was only 23 when she died, and Milton spent the next 28 years still grieving.
Getting BioShock 2: 25$ Entering MInervas Den: 800 MIcrosoft Points Getting to the boss: Pain and Tears. Getting Pocket Lint and a Chewed up Pencil: PRICELESS
Storytelling at its best! I wish I could go back in time recapture the Awe/WTF feeling of when I first realized that Sigma was Porter! I legitimately Never... EVER saw that twist coming!!!
it actually clicked once in my mind that sigma might be potter. cuz i reverse played bioshock infinite first then this. so your mind kinda opens up to theories like whose who
This and "There's Something In The Sea" are my favorite things they did in the Bioshock franchise. In these two cases, they focused on telling a good story about interesting people dealing with Rapture, without the shallow political gimmicks having to color everything. This way it's all about enjoying the sci-fi.
@@John-uw2je I think they missed a huge opportunity by not making delta her biological father or having the protagonist wake up without knowing the actual year, thinking it was soon after and believing Eleanor is still young
The bioshock 1 protragonists dies at the end of his life, not at the end of the game... Sigma (Porter) also dies at the end of his life, not the end of the game.
@@realfrac7ure depends on what you mean by last alpha series. If you mean last surviving then yes. If you mean last made then the unfortunate sinclair takes that spot
kuanlimputera where in the world did you hear that? Delta was a deep sea diver who was turned into a Big Daddy about 50 years after Bioshock Infinite ended.
it's actually fallowing after when tennenboun left delta in the train station. remember when she said "there are others I need to help before the city drowns" she ment sigma and the thinker
This DLC! If Bioshock 2 was just an expanded Minerva's Den instead of the trite, derivative and mediocre game it unfortunately turned out to be, it would have been so much more fondly remembered. This DLC is proof that the Bioshock 2 team knows how to make a Bioshock game, this twist is so good, and so perfect on so many levels that it actually rivals the twist in the original game. Bioshock 2 struggled pretty severely to follow in the first game's footsteps, Minerva's Den makes it look easy, I have no idea how this DLC happened, but it's truly something special.
Not really the twist in Bioshock 1 is the guy who's been helping you the entire game is actually the alias of a crime boss who faked his death and has mind controlled you, the twist in Bioshock 2 Minerva's Den is that the guy who's helping you is actually you and a machine is copying your voice to led you to the destruction of itself and you reviving as yourself
@thelolzmaster1 The story is almost certainly happening alongside the course of Bioshock 2. For one, in Bioshock 2's story, Tenenbaum states "there are others that need my help." Also, when you leave with Tenenbaum, there no Little Sisters with her. I also assumed that this meant that Elanor Lamb took all of them to the surface. So probably closely after Delta dies or very near that time. There are other subtle hints, but I don't have that much space.
Bioshock gives you such an amazing visuel and story, with deep characters each rich with emotion and depth. Yet through the majority of both games you know little to nothing about who YOU ACTUALLY PLAY AS. And only a game as good as this can pull it off without you ever stopping and asking yourself this.
@ShadowAmnesia well in the audio diaries you find, Porter gives The Thinker samples of his late wife's voice in order for it to sound exactly like her. my guess is that Porter, or somebody else, did the same thing with his voice. so the whole time, it was actually The Thinker giving you direction in Porter's voice. hope that helps.
what he said^ but the reason for him to become and alpha was because the creator of rapture thought he was a spy and put him in jail where they made him into one of those.
***** Actually, his name was not Johnny Topside, that's just what he was dubbed by the "Rapture Tribune". In an interview with one of the developers of Bioshock 2 he said "Choosing whether or not to name the character is the hardest thing to do". The developers never named Subject Delta, Johnny Topside was his alias.
+Alessandro Le Vexier (Tf2 Gameplays) Was he? In Bioshock Infinite Burial at Sea we watch Elizabeth cause the first binding of a big daddy to a little sister, and it wasn't subject delta because the little sister wasn't Eleanor.
Milton: -"No, this isn't right, it isn't. . .her" Me: - Huh, as expected Thinker: - "But what's the matter Milton, don't you still love me?" Milton & me: "Oh god. . .oh god. . .OH GOD!" Thats when my jaw dropped
Well, i cried at the good ending at the base Bioshock 2 ending.. And bioshock 2 was the first game/movie i have ever cried to. Did you not? I thought it was superb
See, thats better. There is never a need to call someone an idiot. I know the dlc took place after bioshock 1(frankly thats a no brainer) but some dlc may take place between chapters(ex. gears of war). Thanks for the information buddy, and correctomondo, comments dont have an expiration date. You're so brilliant, i bet that you will make it really far in life :D Happy New Years and stay safe mate :)
I personally think Bioshock and Bioshock 2 are the best horror/ Scifi games out there, Im not really sure about Infinite but There is so much story behind these games that just makes them amazing!
@UnDeadSplicerXD It'll probably take you up to 6 hours or so if you like to take your time looking in each room and gathering ADAM with the sisters as normal. It's two full-size levels and then a third conclusion level (this one) so it does take a good amount of time.
The moment i reached the circle where it says stigma>the thinker>potter.. man i got chills running down the spine knowing it was him all along just shook me hard. No game ever does that to u
If you take all of Bioshock timeline (Infinite, Burial at Sea 1&2, B1, B2, Minerva's Den) this is canonically the last one of the full story, because taking the Thinker's code's copy is the last piece of Tenenbaum's plan to reconvert Sister Big Daddy and Splicers into humans and at the same time shutting down the "brain" of Rapture, definitely putting an end to the city.
@BrI120000 Jingles? you mean the vending machines that talked and had creepy music when you walked by them? That was probably the scariest thing in Rapture.
Did you know that the voice actor for Reed Wahl is the same voice actor for Harbinger in Mass Effect and Detective Herschel Biggs in L.A Noire, Keith Szarabajka?
My brother got me involved with Bioshock back in October. I even dressed up as a little sister for my home school group's video game themed costume party. I started playing the games in February this year. Finished them both plus Minerva's Den, then re-played them for some reason. Whenever someone says that it's only a game, I get kind of annoyed. The Bioshock series are so wonderfully made, they aren't "just games" to me.
Interesting to see that Reed, being the most human and least spliced enemy in Bioshocks 1 and 2, is a much tougher enemy compared to the regular splicers
Hey guys I got Bioshock 2 on the PC through Steam.. the game itself is working but for whatever reason it just won't let me download Minerva's Den through the Windows Live thing in-game. Yes I have the points for it and everything. What do?
If they expanded this game and story more (a few more stages), Minerva's Den could've been a full fledged Bioshock 3. Rapture's a rather big underwater city.
@EnigmaticPhantasy In BioShock 1 the character (Who wasn't a big daddy) Had a name, on the present he holds up in the opening says "To Jack" meaning his name is Jack, and though I don't want to spoil it, he has a face, it a picture you can't in a room right before you meet Andrew Ryan pluse he talks in the opening cinimatic too. Jack from bioshock one has a voice a name and a face. Delta 1 Jack 3, not to say Delta is bad or anything he's a good character Im simply stating where you got it wrong
What the hell Bioshock 2! my heart was in enough knots from the first good ending, now it might as well be a friggin pretzel, so much happy saddness ugghhhh mine pretzel HEART!!!!!
I don't play Bioshock I've only watched friends play it, and this is confusing to me. So in this DLC, is Subject Delta still the Big Daddy we're following, who turns out to have been Porter the whole time, or is this a new Big Daddy's story? Because it says he's an Alpha series too, but his name is Sigma, not Delta in this video.
This DLC is just another reminder of how subpar Infinite was as a "Bioshock" entry. This entire adventure was so kickass and the ending actually got me choked up.
but what i mean was that johnny got mauled no? so Bioshock 2 takes place before the first? Maybe i should just buy it play the first cuz i loved the 2nd and Infinite
@halosaintsfan porter is sigma which is who you are in minerva den while john is delta who you play as in regular bioshock 2 campaign. so she knew you were porter but she made you find out thats why you found the audio log saying the dissapearimg people became the daddy so he became sigma
In a way, Porter fits Andrew Ryan's ideals. A man not governed by king or God. He was led by a recording of his own voice, he was basically his own man. Because he couldn't listen to anyone else
So was Fontaine, but that one didn't work out very well for anyone.
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@@whichDude Ironically, Frank Fontaine is the embodiment of Ayn Rand's garbage ideology. Andrew Ryan chose to abandon his own philosophy because it was ineffective in dealing with Fontaine's criminal activity. Capitalism is the root of all evil.
Anyone else get a bit choked up at the ending? When he's visiting Pearl's grave and saying goodbye, he honestly sounds like he's barely fighting back tears. Porter's VA did a fantastic job.
Who is pearl?
Ivan Calibre 50
Porter's wife, who died before the events of the game. It's her grave that he visits in the ending.
+MegamanXfan21xx oh ok thanx
Porter's VA's wife irl died about 2 or 3 months before the game was released.. some people on reddit talked about how he most likely did the voicing while he was grieving.. not sure how accurate but still sad
@@user-tj5fx6kx7g would explain how it felt so genuine like he really did miss his wife. Best dlc out of all BS DLC's imo.
Minerva's Den, the one DLC where I am able to stick up my head proudly, and say it is worth every single cent you pay for.
Right cause i bought the dlc seperatly heh
I got lucky and got ultimate rapture edition
Seems pretty boring to me, but that said Bioshock 2 in general was crappy compared to the first one and infinite.
@@Wiseman108 Most people like it. You're in the minority. But to each their own I guess
@@Wiseman108 infinite is dodo ngl
Jack: Best Son
Delta: Best Father
Sigma: Best Husband
Booker: Eternal Loser/Professional Catcher
Hated Bioshock Infinite
Virgin Booker vs the Chad Jack
Jack took all those blows from enemies and numerous genetic alternating drugs and still became the Chad of all Rapture. He didnt let the splicing effects take him over
the fc is your problem ya pretentious pansy. i preferred Infinite over 1 and 2
Rapture is basically hell while Columbia is essentially heaven. The lighthouse is the tower of Babel, and the one common thread between the two cities. The entire series is about redemption while at the same time refusing the laws of both heaven and hell. The series is about rebirth and people being their own masters, and creating their own paradise.
Porter's voice actor is Martian Manhunter from Justice League! I knew his voice was familiar, he did a fantastic job in this game and the part where he visits the grave made me teary and choking a bit.
Holy crap!
In C.M. Porter's record,The Thinker says ''Hello Milton.What's the matter Milton ? Don't you still love me ?'' really sounds like SHODAN's speech from the end of System Shock 2.
wtf i perfectly read this along the game
So that's what happend to tenenbaum!!! The only member of the elite of rapture that lives for sure.
i always liked tenenbaum
+Bartosz Pociej (BlackWolf) except in bioshock 1 where she was hating on big daddies, the things i love from bioshock the most
Isn't that the German word for Christmas tree
Ethan Clayton No it's ,,Tannenbaum"
Bartosz Pociej She's the only character you can always trust.
The thing that messes me up the most about this ending is the last audio diary you get, “Pearl.” Imagine hearing the words “Don’t you still love me?” from a caricature of your deceased wife. A caricature… that you created. The amount of guilt he must have felt after that recording must have been too much to speak of.
Wait, a story involving a super-computer that isn't evil? :O
Why the hell they need evil super-computer that was made for Rapture data base (?)
@@aladushek2124 they dont. its just a common trope that supercomputer turns evil because it misinterprets commands it is given. nobody wants them to turn evil.
This is Bioshock meets Silent Hill 2. Simply beautiful and heartbreaking.
just finished the remastered DLC, wow that was so damn sad, but beautifully so. the devs sure like their plot twists, haven't had my jaw drop at a plot twist like that since bioshock 1. god i love this franchise so much
So, Ebert, you still think video games aren't art?
Well, he doesn't really think anything anymore.
+evilemperordude I'm fucking dead XD
+Hector Garcia Well HE certainly is...
or is he... Bioshock 4? lol jk.
I freaking cried at the end. My brother (who introduced me to Bioshock and all it's glory) comes up to the "gaming room" and sees my crying. He first looks at me then looks at the screen and says "You just finished Minerva's Den?" I nod. He says "Yeah, it got me too."
once i heard the recording from ported about everyone who gets captured turning into big daddies i thought it was obvious that sigma was porter so it didn't come as a suprise well it came as a suprise because it turned out i was right
taltigolt I had a slight feeling at first. But I denied it and thought "Nah, it can't be."
I got surprised pretty well.
I thought porter would have the same fate as sinclare or you'll meet him as a big daddy before fighting the boss. Either that or since I heard that he escaped the prison, I thought, well so did lamb... Oh shit so did lamb! Making me believe he was working for lamb
why does all bioshock endings have to be sad in one way or another?
+Yami6692 There's also...Buried at Sea....
+Solus Darkcoat Because your standard "Hero beats villain and lives happily ever after" ending wouldn't be very memorable.
Yami6692
Except that the main character had accelerated aging and died about 10 years later. He only just had enough time to see the girls he saved grow up and live the lives Rapture never would have given them.
It is the happiest ending the series has had, but still ever so slightly bittersweet.
Yami6692 Didn't know that. I assumed the aging continued through his whole life, plus on his deathbed, the hands that held his all looked very slender and young, around 20-ish.
with rings and kids... :) He had a normal life in the end.
After seeing what Rapture looked like in its glory days, in the opening scenes of Burial At Sea, having to see the once-beautiful and magnificent city wrecked and ruined like it is in the games kinda hurts....I'd love to see a Bioshock that takes place in the pre-fall Rapture where you can explore and visit every district of the city you see in 1 and 2 and see the city as it was before everything went pear-shaped.
That'd be pretty neat tbh.
Yeah, like a spin-off game that focuses on the very first person that gets turned into a big daddy.
@8bit NES Cutscene You would fight nothing. it would be a story driven world exploration game where you nose around places and talk to characters, new and familiar faces discovering and learning more about rapture and it's inhabitants
@8bit NES Cutscene exactly what we we're saying
@8bit NES Cutscene Well a man can dream
The ending was so sad! Especially that recording of "Pearl." 2k seriously knows how to make a good story.
I guessed the twist when I heard the voice log at 3:00, but the end was still so effective. The piano music during the final parts were so sad, and I spent a good minute just looking at the photos of Milton and Pearl on the wall just feeling depressed. Milton's voice actor did a great job. Also the gravestone at the end shows Pearl was only 23 when she died, and Milton spent the next 28 years still grieving.
Getting BioShock 2: 25$
Entering MInervas Den: 800 MIcrosoft Points
Getting to the boss: Pain and Tears.
Getting Pocket Lint and a Chewed up Pencil: PRICELESS
I just finished Minerva's Den. I like how you were Obama all along.
papersplease no you’re Samuel Jackson
*MORGAN FREEMAN*
More like Ben Carson
Fuck man i miss bioshock soo much..
God this was so good, I downloaded it and played it one night just because I was bored... I was NOT expecting it to be this good... so good.
The Bioshock series is the best. It brings back so many memories and good times, and most of all, the gameplay is so orgasmic.
Storytelling at its best! I wish I could go back in time recapture the Awe/WTF feeling of when I first realized that Sigma was Porter! I legitimately Never... EVER saw that twist coming!!!
Lenzy Williams i just finished the dlc some hours ago and i couldn't grasp the situation(of Porter being Sigma) for a moment
it actually clicked once in my mind that sigma might be potter. cuz i reverse played bioshock infinite first then this. so your mind kinda opens up to theories like whose who
This and "There's Something In The Sea" are my favorite things they did in the Bioshock franchise.
In these two cases, they focused on telling a good story about interesting people dealing with Rapture, without the shallow political gimmicks having to color everything. This way it's all about enjoying the sci-fi.
the bioshock series seems to have a thing for mind shattering revalations
Except for bioshock 2
@@John-uw2je I think they missed a huge opportunity by not making delta her biological father or having the protagonist wake up without knowing the actual year, thinking it was soon after and believing Eleanor is still young
is this the only one in the bioshock games to have the protagnist live (i know its a dlc with a different charcther)
Bioshock 1.
Sly Apocalypse
Well you do die in the good ending in bioshock, but it only shows you dieing as an old man, so that probably doesn't count.
The bioshock 1 protragonists dies at the end of his life, not at the end of the game...
Sigma (Porter) also dies at the end of his life, not the end of the game.
Well, out of 4 Bioshock Playable characters, 2 live and 2 die, so it's even.
Shashank7170 Count Burial at sea and it becomes 2 live and 3 die. (Or would it be 4? If you count the death in part 1 also)
My feels cannot handle that ending.
i thought mr porter the guy who helps u would be evil turns out u r porter
Idk why but I enjoyed this DLC way more than the Bioshock 1 and 2 stories, I felt so much more connected to Porter and his love for his wife.
so porter is sigma? am i right? if so..... what a twist!
so this is why there was no more tenenbaum in bioshock 2 main story, she was trying to help these guys solve their conflict
Coffee I was confused so Porter is sigma not Delta Johnny topside is Delta so Porter (sigma) was the last of the alpha series
Delta is booker the protagonis of bioshock infinite.
@@realfrac7ure depends on what you mean by last alpha series. If you mean last surviving then yes. If you mean last made then the unfortunate sinclair takes that spot
kuanlimputera where in the world did you hear that? Delta was a deep sea diver who was turned into a Big Daddy about 50 years after Bioshock Infinite ended.
it's actually fallowing after when tennenboun left delta in the train station. remember when she said "there are others I need to help before the city drowns" she ment sigma and the thinker
This DLC! If Bioshock 2 was just an expanded Minerva's Den instead of the trite, derivative and mediocre game it unfortunately turned out to be, it would have been so much more fondly remembered. This DLC is proof that the Bioshock 2 team knows how to make a Bioshock game, this twist is so good, and so perfect on so many levels that it actually rivals the twist in the original game.
Bioshock 2 struggled pretty severely to follow in the first game's footsteps, Minerva's Den makes it look easy, I have no idea how this DLC happened, but it's truly something special.
+Kolbe Howard Speak for yourself. I found BioShock 2 to be better than the first in every way save for the story.
+Kolbe Howard Couldn't disagree more. The whole game was fantastic; this DLC was just the apex.
Eh, i personally loved all of bioshock 2, in some ways more then the first
The twist is almost always the same though.
Not really the twist in Bioshock 1 is the guy who's been helping you the entire game is actually the alias of a crime boss who faked his death and has mind controlled you, the twist in Bioshock 2 Minerva's Den is that the guy who's helping you is actually you and a machine is copying your voice to led you to the destruction of itself and you reviving as yourself
Damm dude use plasmids they make the game easier.
Yeah RIP Delta and Sinclair........... at least Sigma was speared lke you said.
:(
6:05
That big daddy jumping out legit startled me.
Subject Sigma (last Alpha series Big Daddy - 11th - Charles Milton Porter) is a different person, it's not Subject Delta. (Johnny Topside)
I play on the hardest difficulty
Never miss
You would have been dead a long time ago 😭😭
But ultimately it's about letting go and keeping on living. Sad, but hopeful.
@thelolzmaster1 The story is almost certainly happening alongside the course of Bioshock 2. For one, in Bioshock 2's story, Tenenbaum states
"there are others that need my help." Also, when you leave with Tenenbaum, there no Little Sisters with her. I also assumed that this meant that Elanor Lamb took all of them to the surface. So probably closely after Delta dies or very near that time. There are other subtle hints, but I don't have that much space.
Bioshock gives you such an amazing visuel and story, with deep characters each rich with emotion and depth. Yet through the majority of both games you know little to nothing about who YOU ACTUALLY PLAY AS. And only a game as good as this can pull it off without you ever stopping and asking yourself this.
That twist almost broke my neck.
@ShadowAmnesia well in the audio diaries you find, Porter gives The Thinker samples of his late wife's voice in order for it to sound exactly like her. my guess is that Porter, or somebody else, did the same thing with his voice. so the whole time, it was actually The Thinker giving you direction in Porter's voice.
hope that helps.
If Porter was subject sigma, who was subject delta O.o ?
what he said^
but the reason for him to become and alpha was because the creator of rapture thought he was a spy and put him in jail where they made him into one of those.
***** Actually, his name was not Johnny Topside, that's just what he was dubbed by the "Rapture Tribune". In an interview with one of the developers of Bioshock 2 he said "Choosing whether or not to name the character is the hardest thing to do". The developers never named Subject Delta, Johnny Topside was his alias.
+Alessandro Le Vexier (Tf2 Gameplays) Was he? In Bioshock Infinite Burial at Sea we watch Elizabeth cause the first binding of a big daddy to a little sister, and it wasn't subject delta because the little sister wasn't Eleanor.
My theory is that "Jack" in Bioshock 1 and subject Delta are both alternate Booker DeWitts.
okay that doesn't make much since
Milton: -"No, this isn't right, it isn't. . .her"
Me: - Huh, as expected
Thinker: - "But what's the matter Milton, don't you still love me?"
Milton & me: "Oh god. . .oh god. . .OH GOD!"
Thats when my jaw dropped
I loved all the bioshock games, but never played Minerva’s den. The delivery of this actor for CM porter is incredible-I hate that I missed it. 😊
Well, i cried at the good ending at the base Bioshock 2 ending.. And bioshock 2 was the first game/movie i have ever cried to. Did you not? I thought it was superb
That piano music is just... spine-tingling and heartbreaking.
@qwerty123842 This is a DLC called Minervas Den this level isnt in the main game you have to download it
See, thats better. There is never a need to call someone an idiot. I know the dlc took place after bioshock 1(frankly thats a no brainer) but some dlc may take place between chapters(ex. gears of war). Thanks for the information buddy, and correctomondo, comments dont have an expiration date. You're so brilliant, i bet that you will make it really far in life :D
Happy New Years and stay safe mate :)
Ive played the 2nd on PC and seeing your videos since i only can pay for steam games, so THANK YOU!
P.S: You play quite well. Regards from Argentina!
I personally think Bioshock and Bioshock 2 are the best horror/ Scifi games out there, Im not really sure about Infinite but There is so much story behind these games that just makes them amazing!
@UnDeadSplicerXD
It'll probably take you up to 6 hours or so if you like to take your time looking in each room and gathering ADAM with the sisters as normal. It's two full-size levels and then a third conclusion level (this one) so it does take a good amount of time.
I shed a tear during emotional movies sometimes. But I've never cried because of an emotional game before, hopefully it happens one day!
dame i did not see that comeing...the ending made me wont to cry a little
you gota love that alarm sound
The moment i reached the circle where it says stigma>the thinker>potter.. man i got chills running down the spine knowing it was him all along just shook me hard. No game ever does that to u
Man this was definitely the best DLC i have ever played... Loved the ending
The ending is beautiful, really well done.
Iv always wandered did he keep the Height and the muscle from being an Alpha or did he go baackto a normal build and height
LOVED IT...the guy who was the main voice actor did a great job!
Did anyone else notice Pearl's silhouette over Milton's at the end when he was standing in front of her grave?
If you take all of Bioshock timeline (Infinite, Burial at Sea 1&2, B1, B2, Minerva's Den) this is canonically the last one of the full story, because taking the Thinker's code's copy is the last piece of Tenenbaum's plan to reconvert Sister Big Daddy and Splicers into humans and at the same time shutting down the "brain" of Rapture, definitely putting an end to the city.
Well screw the hole "Johnny topside" Idea XD
@liles65 They're kind of like passive stat boosters/ skill givers that you equip...
I like it how you seemed a little stunned after the plot twist cos you didn't move right away. :)
@chellanater101
Not the main game, no. It's the ending to the DLC, Minerva's Den.
@BrI120000 Jingles? you mean the vending machines that talked and had creepy music when you walked by them? That was probably the scariest thing in Rapture.
when u get this dlc do u keep your weapons and plasmids or start from scratch and can u get achieves for doing like the 30 hacks and stuff like that
this expansion is better than the actual game.
Did you know that the voice actor for Reed Wahl is the same voice actor for Harbinger in Mass Effect and Detective Herschel Biggs in L.A Noire, Keith Szarabajka?
My brother got me involved with Bioshock back in October. I even dressed up as a little sister for my home school group's video game themed costume party. I started playing the games in February this year. Finished them both plus Minerva's Den, then re-played them for some reason. Whenever someone says that it's only a game, I get kind of annoyed. The Bioshock series are so wonderfully made, they aren't "just games" to me.
I just got lazy and went straight into infinite and never played this dlc. Should I play it if I already know the ending??
Interesting to see that Reed, being the most human and least spliced enemy in Bioshocks 1 and 2, is a much tougher enemy compared to the regular splicers
8:42, no cutscenes, no human expressions, only the music and atmosphere emphasize this moment
i need to ask u a question: are u gonna do bioshock 3 when it comes out? please do
hey wen u get ur new weapon da ion blaster wat weapon does it replace?
Sigma's (Porter's) story was one of the greater DLCs I have played. As well as the amazing campaign which you play as Delta (Johnny)
@TitanicPolarBear101 Indeed. It imitated her so well that fell to the bottom of the Valley
@inukirby992 No, it's set in 1912. They've also confirmed several times that It has absolutely nothing to do with the plot of the first two games.
that's deep i haven't played it but just by watching this it made me cry
The one where he has the Thinker simulate Pearl? When he mutters under his breath "This isn't right", it hurts.
I have to agree with your statement, xpert434. Minerva's Den was the best Bioshock 2 could offer.
Hey guys I got Bioshock 2 on the PC through Steam.. the game itself is working but for whatever reason it just won't let me download Minerva's Den through the Windows Live thing in-game. Yes I have the points for it and everything.
What do?
If they expanded this game and story more (a few more stages), Minerva's Den could've been a full fledged Bioshock 3. Rapture's a rather big underwater city.
Yeah, I also liked the mention where Porter was teased about Splicing White, and he told the guy to splice some common sense.
@MrLogannator I meant with that kind of combat skills he just exhibited to us, how on earth could he survive the whole Bioshock 2 campaign.
Why not get a longer health bar via the gatherers gardens?
It’s a shame Johnny Topside died before he could be restored, I’m glad Milton was able to get back to normal though
@xpert434 like i beat the game wheres the thinker? whats opertions?
Is an body have a problem with the game crashing on pc
@EnigmaticPhantasy In BioShock 1 the character (Who wasn't a big daddy) Had a name, on the present he holds up in the opening says "To Jack" meaning his name is Jack, and though I don't want to spoil it, he has a face, it a picture you can't in a room right before you meet Andrew Ryan pluse he talks in the opening cinimatic too. Jack from bioshock one has a voice a name and a face. Delta 1 Jack 3, not to say Delta is bad or anything he's a good character Im simply stating where you got it wrong
What the hell Bioshock 2! my heart was in enough knots from the first good ending, now it might as well be a friggin pretzel, so much happy saddness ugghhhh mine pretzel HEART!!!!!
I got chills when it’s revealed who Sigma really was
I sure did. Bioshock is a masterpiece.
I don't play Bioshock I've only watched friends play it, and this is confusing to me. So in this DLC, is Subject Delta still the Big Daddy we're following, who turns out to have been Porter the whole time, or is this a new Big Daddy's story? Because it says he's an Alpha series too, but his name is Sigma, not Delta in this video.
This DLC is just another reminder of how subpar Infinite was as a "Bioshock" entry. This entire adventure was so kickass and the ending actually got me choked up.
I feel bad for porter knowing he was a subject to Ryan's well you know gains in power
but what i mean was that johnny got mauled no? so Bioshock 2 takes place before the first? Maybe i should just buy it play the first cuz i loved the 2nd and Infinite
@halosaintsfan porter is sigma which is who you are in minerva den while john is delta who you play as in regular bioshock 2 campaign. so she knew you were porter but she made you find out thats why you found the audio log saying the dissapearimg people became the daddy so he became sigma