I've been obsessing over Oddworld my entire life and you've shown me new things I never knew! Love this video, hope you do more like it in the future, and if not, I'm still thankful for this one.
I'm not really a fan of the new designs, I think the gritty realistic look coupled with goofy proportions and slapstick dark humour of the original first 2 games meshed so well
Yush feel the same though I take as the new designs with a pinch of salt. But I lean towards the original designs and style more just has more charm and fantasy alien world vibe.
The new games didn’t capture that dark , depressed , hopeless, deadly atmosphere the Originals had . The cinematic art background they used in the originals can’t be matched .
The flying slig with wings can be heard exploding after complaining that something smells. The wings were likely an older (and less reliable) design in universe as well.
One of the biggest shocks for me was realizing that I always though Abe's eyes were that little black dot on the model of the profile silhouette, when in reality they were far below.
This was such an interesting watch. You were right, I could never pinpoint why any of the changes looked weird. Props to the glukks staying consistent through most of the series
I've always loved that Gluckons are like a much taller guy cut off at the wait. It gives me Dark Crystal vibes, like they were a whole thing once and are incomplete somehow
This was absolutely amazing, I love Oddworld so much and the details you explored are fascinating. I commend you for your effort and the amount of time this video must have taken. Also I am glad you talked a bit about Green Suit Glukkon from Oddysee, he's always been my favorite.
Just so people know, they changed the amount of fingers to 3 because in Japan, having 4 fingers meant you were a criminal. This was because in some Japanese gangs, members would cut off their pinky in order to pay penance to an offence made towards the group
That’s not right, why would they want to limit the visual of criminals when there’s so much media about Yakuza in anime? Gangs, violence, and criminality is basically a trope there. It was culturally motivated.
That's not true. They changed the four fingers due to the connotations it had with the Burakumin, a social caste that was ostracized and humiliated during centuries by Japanese society due to the fact that they worked as butchers, tanners or undertakers, which were considered impure jobs as they had to deal with blood. In Japan and China 4 is a bad luck number because it can be pronounced like "shi" (death) and in Japanese folklore only animals have four fingers, so saying that the Burakumin had four fingers was like saying that they were not humans.
Absolutely incredible video. You obviously have a great deal of knowledge of how games and their art work under the hood and attention to detail, but you have the ability to convey the information to a layman very clearly. The editing, the script, the delivery, the insights... Terrific job!
I can't believe how much effort has been put into making this video and it doesn't have views while other stupid videos are having many views. Great video!
What a spectacular video. Remarkably well put together. I really appreciate all of the effort that went into the graphic design elements, and the animations between parts. I've loved Oddysee and Exoddus since I was a kid, so I love seeing deep-dives like this for these games. Thanks for a cool video.
Thank you for this fantastic video. The editing was insanely good! And I learned a bunch of new things about these games, which I've played and replayed for like 20 years!
For all its flaws, I think Soultorm took a step in the right direction by giving individual characters unique appearances. After all, humans aren't all identical, why would Mudokons or Glukkons be?
Soul-storm is a refreshing take on the characters, I found it jarring at first, but Ive come to welcome the change, I hope to see more of these versions of Abe and the cast.
I always loved the style of the older games how it was dark and dreary, but borders on comedy. It's nice to see them get the HD treatment but I think the charm is gone with the newer games, and maybe going towards more of the silly direction.
This game was so unusually dark for its time and I kind of love it. I would like to download an emulator and play it again from start to finish. It's super hard and really intricate which is surprising and I don't remember ever beating either the first or second game as I was a kid. Yeah it's great. I feel like Abe's creatures were an inspiration for the Vorrigaunts from the Half-Life series and Strangers Wrath is so good! 😂 Thanks for making the video and reminding me of a gem from my past
I've never played any of these games but I was genuinely interested the whole way through, great video! I'm now kinda interested in playing the games now
Fantastic video, I was surprised I hadn't seen a video comparing all the model differences across the games because it is very interesting following the creative process of Oddworld games. I noticed the inconsistency with the slig masks when they made Exodus but I thought it was just down to preference, so most of the in-game sligs were in a standard guard uniform while the Glukkon assistants/TV presenter use the round lens ones to try look appealing.
I am so glad you made this video, been thinking about the in depth inconsintincies in the back of mind for over 10 years and you have filled the gap in my mind 😂
Ha! I've been nitpicking about loads of this stuff for over 20 years. Always felt like I was the only person who noticed the hand tattoo change (which doesn't even make sense as they're Exoddus artwork)
Man, was kinda hoping this video would be about the changing aesthetic/style of character/creature designs within the series over time, i.e. comparing creature designs of species introduced in Abe's Oddysee to the designs of those introduced in Stranger's Wrath. IMO, there's been a pretty clear, radical departure from what the series' initial aesthetic seemed to be, and I'm interested in hearing other people's thoughts on it. Whenever I hear ppl discussing Oddworld's artstyle, they're just talking about how unique and quirky it is or w/e, but only as a whole.
Yeah, the thing with Sligs being depicted as green is likely why in the Game Boy Colour version of the game, they are green there. Though the Flying Sligs are yellow. Also, one thing I never see anyone mention: in Abe's Oddysee you play a flashback, detailing the events of the past 24 hours. Yet every time you go back to Monsaic Lines, the area is always the same brightness, even-though once you finish Scrabania, the sun is clearly setting
I would have really loved to see the original models in later cutscenes, they really did nail the charm and really fit the character pretty much perfectly
correction for 18:50 it's actually 5 unnamed Glukkons, one of the Glukkons leans over to another and says "hey Tony, see that?, how are we going to get out of this one!"
I’m assuming to paint over the textures Oddworld Inhabitants just used a feature called “Alpha Lock” it just lets you paint over anything already drawn to not make a mess and appear 3D wether 2D or not.
Gosh that hairline design looks awful thank goodness they didn't end up using it lol. I can appreciate them giving mudokons In Soulstorm distinguishing facial designs, it gives each mudokon unique look and personality them but I can't really say the same for Abe cause his original design is just do much better. Regardless, the cut scenes in Soul storm look gorgeous. Unfortunately I did not like the gameplay at all for soulstorm, the story however seemed pretty neat and hopefully they'll continue it with a future sequel. Awesome vid bro!
As someone who has been scouring this website for Oddworld content for about a year now; There is basically a few major channels you can find if you actively search, but the overwhelming majority are just one-off videos, like this one. Makes me with the Oddworld community was a bit more lively because the worldbuilding is like nothing I've ever seen.
This is a phenomenal video. Thank you for the effort. Much of it I had noticed myself, but picked up plenty of new bits along the way. The original can't be matched for me. Whilst New N' Tasty was a spirited effort, much of the bleakness of the atmosphere in places like Rupture Farms and the Free Fire Zone is lost to changes in lighting. In the original, Rupture looks like what it is - a slaughterhouse. In New N' Tasty, the fluorescent glow makes it look industrial, but not at all a terrifying place to work/be enslaved. The constantly chattering Mudokons also diminish the vibe of a brutal workplace, whereas their silence (until addressed by Abe) in the original suggests them having been subjected to cruelty. Anyways. Wonderful video!
Great video! I can tell it took you a long time to make this 🙏🏻 I never liked how the meditation sounded in new and tasty, taking over someone’s body always sounded so majestic in the 2 original ones, why did they change it? Oh well..
I'm fine with inconsistencies as long as they adhere to their own rules. It adds flavor, so I'm not going to get all autistic about it. Cuts scenes back in those days were a special event and probably had different art teams working on them.
Some feedback- I didn't know about the three-fingers-in-Japan thing. I think you used as much time explaining why the viewer should just Google it as you could have used explaining the three-fingers thing. That left me a little dissatisfied.
Maybe they have different skin colors in universe too? With green being the equivalent to white & purple being equivalent to black & blue being equivalent to brown? I wonder which color is equivalent to red.
I have no idea when, or why I subscribed, but this is great stuff. Where did you get those high quality sprites of Abe at 1:54 though? I never seen the ingame sprites that clearly ever.
![[OLD] Abe's Oddysee - Caddicarus](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qxnEjF44SNQ/mqdefault.jpg)
I've just uploaded a gallery with images made for the video here:
htmlearth.com/media/oddworldcompare/
What difference on Mudokons is this??? Same designs from New 'n' Tasty???
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I've been obsessing over Oddworld my entire life and you've shown me new things I never knew! Love this video, hope you do more like it in the future, and if not, I'm still thankful for this one.
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@@melanieschmidt8753 nice colour scheme!!! I love it
I played it when I was about 5.
It's an amazing series
I'm not really a fan of the new designs, I think the gritty realistic look coupled with goofy proportions and slapstick dark humour of the original first 2 games meshed so well
O god I agree, didn't know there was a new game
You say that like you're not twelve years old and just agreeing with the video.
Yush feel the same though I take as the new designs with a pinch of salt. But I lean towards the original designs and style more just has more charm and fantasy alien world vibe.
The new games didn’t capture that dark , depressed , hopeless, deadly atmosphere the Originals had . The cinematic art background they used in the originals can’t be matched .
I *LOVE* the new universe!
Not more OR less than the old one.
it would kinda make sense that mudokons had no teeth since in oddworld lore, mudokons evolved from birds,
Muds have teeth now.
Dinos evolved INTO birds though... maybe it's the opposite.
@@ShadeMeadowsnah. With enough millions of years a bird could become humanlike
It would also make sense if the teeth returned somehow, maybe a certain gene would retrigger?
7:54
I deeply appreciate the dramatic sting paired with the clip here.
The flying slig with wings can be heard exploding after complaining that something smells. The wings were likely an older (and less reliable) design in universe as well.
Mudokon's hairline is cursed knowledge, and now I can't unsee it, thanks.
One of the biggest shocks for me was realizing that I always though Abe's eyes were that little black dot on the model of the profile silhouette, when in reality they were far below.
Omg I just realised that now
4:39 "Ugh! Pfoof! Ugh! Pfoof! Ugh!"
This was such an interesting watch. You were right, I could never pinpoint why any of the changes looked weird.
Props to the glukks staying consistent through most of the series
12:17 you sounded so much like Abe here, I love it
Aw lol he did
I've always loved that Gluckons are like a much taller guy cut off at the wait. It gives me Dark Crystal vibes, like they were a whole thing once and are incomplete somehow
The editing. *THE EDITING.*
Keep up the good work :)
i think exodus is pretty remarkable considering they rushed it out in 1 year
It plays better than soulstorm, soulstorm is repetitive
18:34 Sligs got the same colors as a frog, green head, back, & limbs, but a yellow belly & chin/mouth.
This was absolutely amazing, I love Oddworld so much and the details you explored are fascinating. I commend you for your effort and the amount of time this video must have taken.
Also I am glad you talked a bit about Green Suit Glukkon from Oddysee, he's always been my favorite.
Just so people know, they changed the amount of fingers to 3 because in Japan, having 4 fingers meant you were a criminal. This was because in some Japanese gangs, members would cut off their pinky in order to pay penance to an offence made towards the group
That’s not right, why would they want to limit the visual of criminals when there’s so much media about Yakuza in anime? Gangs, violence, and criminality is basically a trope there. It was culturally motivated.
That's not true. They changed the four fingers due to the connotations it had with the Burakumin, a social caste that was ostracized and humiliated during centuries by Japanese society due to the fact that they worked as butchers, tanners or undertakers, which were considered impure jobs as they had to deal with blood. In Japan and China 4 is a bad luck number because it can be pronounced like "shi" (death) and in Japanese folklore only animals have four fingers, so saying that the Burakumin had four fingers was like saying that they were not humans.
Absolutely incredible video. You obviously have a great deal of knowledge of how games and their art work under the hood and attention to detail, but you have the ability to convey the information to a layman very clearly.
The editing, the script, the delivery, the insights... Terrific job!
really respect the amount of effort put into this video. The editing, research, great audio and footage. fantastic man, learned a ton of trivia!
the music, mannnn. brings me back and a tear to my eye
I can't believe how much effort has been put into making this video and it doesn't have views while other stupid videos are having many views. Great video!
What a spectacular video. Remarkably well put together.
I really appreciate all of the effort that went into the graphic design elements, and the animations between parts.
I've loved Oddysee and Exoddus since I was a kid, so I love seeing deep-dives like this for these games.
Thanks for a cool video.
Thank you for this fantastic video. The editing was insanely good! And I learned a bunch of new things about these games, which I've played and replayed for like 20 years!
For all its flaws, I think Soultorm took a step in the right direction by giving individual characters unique appearances. After all, humans aren't all identical, why would Mudokons or Glukkons be?
Soul-storm is a refreshing take on the characters, I found it jarring at first, but Ive come to welcome the change, I hope to see more of these versions of Abe and the cast.
I always loved the style of the older games how it was dark and dreary, but borders on comedy. It's nice to see them get the HD treatment but I think the charm is gone with the newer games, and maybe going towards more of the silly direction.
This game was so unusually dark for its time and I kind of love it. I would like to download an emulator and play it again from start to finish. It's super hard and really intricate which is surprising and I don't remember ever beating either the first or second game as I was a kid. Yeah it's great. I feel like Abe's creatures were an inspiration for the Vorrigaunts from the Half-Life series and Strangers Wrath is so good! 😂 Thanks for making the video and reminding me of a gem from my past
An emulator? I think the original still works:) The Steam versions of Oddysee and Exoddus should work.
Nice work lol This was really cool. I really love seeing analysis like this.
This kind of video is awesome, excellent attention to detail. I didn't notice half of these things about Oddworld. Please make more of this type!
I've never played any of these games but I was genuinely interested the whole way through, great video!
I'm now kinda interested in playing the games now
I'm really glad someone is still making videos about Oddworld Abe's Exoddus and Oddysee
One of the few videos of which I haven't skipped a single second while watching, great effort indeed.
I love how the funnies in the video are perfectly timed with what he says, makes it more fun to watch!
Fantastic video, I was surprised I hadn't seen a video comparing all the model differences across the games because it is very interesting following the creative process of Oddworld games. I noticed the inconsistency with the slig masks when they made Exodus but I thought it was just down to preference, so most of the in-game sligs were in a standard guard uniform while the Glukkon assistants/TV presenter use the round lens ones to try look appealing.
Fantastic editing, audio quality, music choice etc. Finally some good fucking Oddworld content.
I never played a single one of these games, but I am a sucker for deep dives into small details like this.
Absurdly good job on this, such a fascinating look back!
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Woah did abe dance?! 25:13
I am so glad you made this video, been thinking about the in depth inconsintincies in the back of mind for over 10 years and you have filled the gap in my mind 😂
Your editing is just... So good. On point, man!
I really wish this video was an hour long, I just love how interesting it all is
About the “yellow” slig thing… You probably should test for red-green colorblindness
Those "scars" are called tattoos
Ha! I've been nitpicking about loads of this stuff for over 20 years. Always felt like I was the only person who noticed the hand tattoo change (which doesn't even make sense as they're Exoddus artwork)
I love the "everybody knows about the finger thing I'm not gonna cover it". I do know about the finger thing!
Best. Oddworld. Video. Ever.
This was superb work, I'm very impressed on your eye for detail.
What is this? A new Oddworld video by someone? Fuck yeah what a perfect time to find this channel.
Also what the fuck this production quality is INSANE. The transitions from Mudokons -> Sligs -> Glukkons are top notch!
Man, was kinda hoping this video would be about the changing aesthetic/style of character/creature designs within the series over time, i.e. comparing creature designs of species introduced in Abe's Oddysee to the designs of those introduced in Stranger's Wrath.
IMO, there's been a pretty clear, radical departure from what the series' initial aesthetic seemed to be, and I'm interested in hearing other people's thoughts on it. Whenever I hear ppl discussing Oddworld's artstyle, they're just talking about how unique and quirky it is or w/e, but only as a whole.
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Quality vid, down to the end card showing the music having a legend to it so it's easier to sort, fantastic.
Obscure video game factoids give me life.
Yeah, the thing with Sligs being depicted as green is likely why in the Game Boy Colour version of the game, they are green there. Though the Flying Sligs are yellow.
Also, one thing I never see anyone mention: in Abe's Oddysee you play a flashback, detailing the events of the past 24 hours. Yet every time you go back to Monsaic Lines, the area is always the same brightness, even-though once you finish Scrabania, the sun is clearly setting
I've been...liking Oddworld? Lately I been wanting to learn more about this series.
ooh the devil may cry 1 mission select song from those few missions when the glukkons come in is nice
I would have really loved to see the original models in later cutscenes, they really did nail the charm and really fit the character pretty much perfectly
I'm surprised you didn't mention how the hand scars were completely different in design from Oddysee to Exoddus.
I don't know about any of you guys but I miss the Visor masks
Simply brilliant video! The amount of research done is really noticeable, great job!
correction for 18:50 it's actually 5 unnamed Glukkons, one of the Glukkons leans over to another and says "hey Tony, see that?, how are we going to get out of this one!"
I will never forgive them erasing the slit visor sligs...
I really like new n tasty abe, hes very adorable and cartoony especially with that ending expression.
oooh brother but you are tripping, sligs are green, there shading has yellow tinge but my brother...they..they are green lol
At 10:30 a reason Abe's head is brighter in the left picture is probably because they wanted it to look like a flash from a camera.
great video! everything is detailed and clear!
Abe's forehead in new n tasty is incredibly bulbous and his eyebrows are basically gone
Wow, this is great stuff, this is really in depth!
I've never even heard of this game series but this was a very interesting video!
2:29 I know the Saint related to this but is my favorite line from oddworld in general
My dad just showed me oddworld and I fell I'm love great video btw
Spot on.. love the 90's game.. such grit and grime!
I’m assuming to paint over the textures Oddworld Inhabitants just used a feature called “Alpha Lock” it just lets you paint over anything already drawn to not make a mess and appear 3D wether 2D or not.
Gosh that hairline design looks awful thank goodness they didn't end up using it lol. I can appreciate them giving mudokons In Soulstorm distinguishing facial designs, it gives each mudokon unique look and personality them but I can't really say the same for Abe cause his original design is just do much better. Regardless, the cut scenes in Soul storm look gorgeous. Unfortunately I did not like the gameplay at all for soulstorm, the story however seemed pretty neat and hopefully they'll continue it with a future sequel.
Awesome vid bro!
*ALL HAIL ODDWORLD.*
As someone who has been scouring this website for Oddworld content for about a year now; There is basically a few major channels you can find if you actively search, but the overwhelming majority are just one-off videos, like this one.
Makes me with the Oddworld community was a bit more lively because the worldbuilding is like nothing I've ever seen.
As a Kid the number of fingers changing from 4 to 3 annoyed me to no fucking end.
You should make a series of these kinds of videos
Lol finally someone mentions the music video
This is a phenomenal video. Thank you for the effort. Much of it I had noticed myself, but picked up plenty of new bits along the way.
The original can't be matched for me. Whilst New N' Tasty was a spirited effort, much of the bleakness of the atmosphere in places like Rupture Farms and the Free Fire Zone is lost to changes in lighting. In the original, Rupture looks like what it is - a slaughterhouse. In New N' Tasty, the fluorescent glow makes it look industrial, but not at all a terrifying place to work/be enslaved. The constantly chattering Mudokons also diminish the vibe of a brutal workplace, whereas their silence (until addressed by Abe) in the original suggests them having been subjected to cruelty.
Anyways. Wonderful video!
Amazing editing and very entertaining!!
His mixture of purple & cyan makes him kinda look blue…
Sligs are my favourite race out of the games
Great video! I can tell it took you a long time to make this 🙏🏻 I never liked how the meditation sounded in new and tasty, taking over someone’s body always sounded so majestic in the 2 original ones, why did they change it? Oh well..
"muh vision"
>the vision changes every game
this is such a good video. i need more!!!!
How'd youtube know, I grew up with.... one of these games, never beat it or understood it but always loved the designs
I'm fine with inconsistencies as long as they adhere to their own rules. It adds flavor, so I'm not going to get all autistic about it.
Cuts scenes back in those days were a special event and probably had different art teams working on them.
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This video is great and underrated, just like the game series.
Keep on!!!!!!!!!! I'm with you
We all are mudokon, in this hard times......
Best design = Oddysee ... In New 'N Tasty, Elum turned out VERY well, however! And another favourite are the Big Bro Sligs.
"I fell into a Gabbit hole"
Missed opportunity man! Missed opportunity...
A wonderful video, instant like!
This is some original stuff 👏 👌 🙌 entertaining and makes you think about the creative process
Some feedback- I didn't know about the three-fingers-in-Japan thing. I think you used as much time explaining why the viewer should just Google it as you could have used explaining the three-fingers thing. That left me a little dissatisfied.
Maybe they have different skin colors in universe too? With green being the equivalent to white & purple being equivalent to black & blue being equivalent to brown?
I wonder which color is equivalent to red.
it fits with the whole "odd world" concept
Я только сейчас понял, что первый раз вижу плохую концовку для New 'n' Tasty, а играю в неё часто. Smoke cigar through pipe- that's ODD.))
Maybe the yellow and green sligs are just different races?
"I don't usually make videos like these"
Shame.
amazing video dude
In the good ending of new and tasty they used a sound sample from Time Splitters. Let me know if you wish to know further details.
I have no idea when, or why I subscribed, but this is great stuff. Where did you get those high quality sprites of Abe at 1:54 though? I never seen the ingame sprites that clearly ever.
They were ripped from an old Flash demo thing from 2011. It's still here: www.jawltd.com/xmas11/ but Flash is no longer supported in most browsers.
@@HTML_Earth So, we have to restore adobe flash in order to get these rare high quality sprites?
Thanks for your video!