Star Trek: 10 Alien Encounters Before First Contact
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- Опубліковано 7 тра 2024
- We all know about First Contact Day, but there have been earlier alien encounters in Star Trek.
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Blame Kris for that title repeat, Tom actually edited that bit fine.
oops
He must’ve not had his coffee
It is highly implied that Preserves operate outside the time. What may be the solution to this issue.
I thought I'd messed something up with UA-cam until I saw the lipsync was still on.
To err is human, not Vulcan. So it's just proof of one fewer first contact.
Mavity... I noticed that little sneaky crossover.
I love how casually it was just slipped in there. :D
Brilliant!!!!
@@TesseractUnfolded I hear it often since the special. I think in a decades know one will know anymore that it wasn't always mavity gg
how is a reference to a scientific phenomenon a crossover?
@@dannygmtg Who knows. Something to do with a Doctor.
there was also Gary Seven's Cat
@WaitTryFail
Still wish that'd been a show.
@@noneofurbusiness5223 I watched that recently and the entire episode seemed like the setup for a spinoff. Is that what it was actually planned to be?
Yes, but obviously, it wasn't picked up. I think it would've been GREAT! Would also have the added production benefit of not needing to pay for expensive sets of alien worlds or ships. @@joannesmith2484
@@joannesmith2484 yes
there was also Gary Seven's Cat - Isis.
Since Desilu put Star Trek on the air, Mestral loving Lucy makes perfect sense!
Yep. That nod to I Love Lucy was clearly intentional.
Just here to feed the visibility algorithm.
They should have brought back Mestral latter in Enterprise during the Capenter Street episode.
This is the comment I searched for. Admiral Ball on the bridge! ❤
I love her and that's the main reason.
Bringing the Punk back in Picard is one of the greatest call backs of all time 👍🏻
Hear! Hear! I didn't even know about that until watching this vid, so: yay!
He also made an appearance in one of the Spider Man movies.
@@emsleywyatt3400, wait what? Need more details?
Um. Which episode was that? I somehow completely missed it until it was pointed out in the video.
no question.
Ferengi in Roswell, Lanthanites and El-Aurians thorough history, the Megans, Spock in the '1930s, a different Vulcan on the West Coast (this time Tuvok in LA in 1996), a Trill (Jadzia Dax) in 2024... there were a few famous examples missing from this list.
And lest we forget, Spock in 1968.
@@VictorReynolds Right, alongside whatever Isis was. And of course then there was Tallin in 2024, probably a few more members of that organization, and a Borg queen. Looks like in the Star Trek universe the UFO nuts were right; pre-contact Earth was positively lousy with aliens.
not just Jadzia, but there was also ANOTHER Dax on the planet at the same time! she used the same bank account, took a while to convince the bank she was the same person. also, it was mentioned with the Devidians, but Guinan! she didn't get her own mention!
You mentioned the Megans, but don't forget about Kukulkán!
Kira also visited earth of the past while searching for Daz Sisko and Bashir in past tense.
I like how after his encounter with Spock, the punk started wearing a spiked collar.
Good catch.
He was wearing a collar even then, if you look closely enough.
@STSWB5SG1FAN ok yeah, but look at the difference in the spikes. They're bigger and there are a lot more.
Well, yes but 30+ years are supposed to have elapsed between Kirk Thatcher's characters meetings with Spock and 7/9.
I didn't notice that. That's a nice detail though. The writers knew what they were doing that day.
Carbon Creek is an amazing episode of Star Trek. Strongly agree. Well written, well acted, classic.
How about the ferengui in Roswell??
Little green men
There was a short clip of that at the very beginning. No mention though.
@@darrengriffin8609 The clip was in the context of another list of Alien Encounters before First Contact. I assume planning is underway for the second video!
The Ferengui were still Ferencommandline when Roswell happened. Thinking about it, they were probably Ferenpunchcard.
I can think of 3 right now. TOS Assignment: Earth, DS9 Little Green Men, TOS Requiem for Methuselah
As far as we know, Flint wasn’t an alien he was just an exceptionally long-lived human
You are right. I forgot about that point. Thanks!
City on the Edge of Forever
Gary Seven wasn't an alien, but Isis was. Also, we see Gary Seven's Job revisited in Picard, Season 2 with a Romulan.
We also see a Romulan trying to kill Khan in SNW.
Great picks.
I'm glad you handled this article with the mavity it deserved.
Love the Doctor reference. "Wild Blue Yonder" was a great and really creepy Dr. Who special.
I do enjoy the DW refence but I refuse to acknowledge any more "mavity" references hahah
My thought on the Vulcan who stayed behind on Earth in the episode Carbon Creek is that he was relatively young by Vulcan standards. Probably only in his 30s or 40s. He had a lot of life ahead of him and managed to live as a human until official first contact was made. When the Vulcan Embassy on Earth was established, he quietly made his way there and shared his anthropological findings.
How did he deal with Pon Farr ?
I believe that is a perfectly logical explanation.
I think we know how he handled pon farr. There were probably a few Vulcan/human hybrids on Earth after Mistral decided to stay. Unless of course he used protection!
Nobody has to know he's impotent.
DON'T SAY THAT WORD.
@@rickjohnston2667That sound irresponsible: how would such hybrid children get any medical care with their unusual (by human standards) anatomy ?
A "tall tale told by T'pol to tease Trip Tucker" - genius lol.
But I'm sure Trip thought the word 'story' near a lie as his mother probably said many times in his life, "you better not be telling me a story (lie)"! Maybe, T'Pol should've brought her 2nd foremother's purse with her on her next meal in the Cpt.'s dining room.
Was there a connection between Menos-one of the 2 men T'Pol was after on Risa in 'The 7th'-and the Xindi and the bottles of green stuff?
Vulcans do not tease. There is no logic in a job done half thoroughly.
So why did she tell Trip-after their exploration in 'Harbinger'-that she was using him as a 'lab rat'? Lt. Saavik also used David Marcus in a similar way (in the novel-maybe she read T'Pol's journals at Starfleet). Some logic.
And probably took a few takes.
Fun fact, the first Vulcan who exits the ship in First Contact is Solkar, Sarek's grandfather and the first Vulcan ambassador to Earth.
I agree that Carbon Creek is one of the most delightful episodes of Star Trek, period. I've rewatched it more than any other Enterprise episode. I love the idea of a Vulcan among us, watching our reruns on Tubi.
Agreed. Carbon Creek is the perfect comfort food.
My issue with most people's interpretation is the assumption he would die before first contact. Vulcans live a long time and Nastral as at most middle age; he would likely survive well over 100 years on earth. In my head he just walks into the vulcan embassy and is quietly taken back to vulcan (no need to freak out the emotional humans).
@@ccibinel I'm too freaked out!
@@ccibinel Depends on where he was when WW3 started.
@@danspawn85 True but tuckers doubts about what happened to him when he died wouldnt assume that. Many died but still only 5-10% of the population at most
Also, I love that you used the word 'Mavity'. Donna Noble has a lot to answer for. 🤣
I love how Mavity has become a sorta inside joke for Doctor Who fans.
I would like to think that Mestral lived long enough to get himself to Bozeman in 2063 and say hello.
2063.
@@davidnaas8366 right, of course.
He arrived in Bozeman in 2061, then spent two years wondering 'Where the hell are they?'
At the end of Carbon Creek doesn't T'Pol take out her grandmother's purse she brought back from 1950's Earth? Seemed rather a sign that it was a true story.
What about the Jack the Ripper entity from Wolf in the Fold?
That was the first thing I thought of. Redjac had to be operating at least as early as the 19th century. He might have arrived earlier if the victims weren’t discovered or in remote areas that were not keeping records. He had subsequent attacks noticed in later years, leaving after a century of activity on earth.
North Star - Enterprise. People from the old West were kidnapped to be slaves on another planet. They overthrew their captors and became discriminatory towards them. Archer helped them to get along.
I thought North Star would be on the list. Maybe it will be on the next list.
My favorites were on this list. (Carbon Creek, The 37's) Maybe the less loved will be on a second. There seems to be several.
Yes, the skagarrans.
Absolutely! North Star is one of my favorite Enterprise episodes! The original "cowboys versus Aliens!" Totally Trek story!
I even wrote a sequel to North Star. Archer returns and finds the humans are on the verge of civil war, because McReady is President and wants to abolish laws that discriminate against the Skagarrans, but his former Deputy Bennings is forming a Ku Klux Klan-type political organization opposed to MacReady and his policies.
Guinan was on Earth at least a couple of centuries before first contact as well.
As was Pelia.
@@MudSluggerBP
Yep.
Carbon Creek is one of my all time favorite Star Trek episodes. Brilliantly done.
Gotta add the energy alien Ronin from "Sub Rosa."
Please God, don't bring up that clusterf*ck of a TNG episode...
🤮🤮🤮
"Carbon Creek" is easily one of my absolute favorite episodes, of "S.T. ~ Enterprise"!
I have occasionally caught myself wondering about Mestril's life, in 1950's America, after their rescue ship departed without him.
He had a good heart, and he did not seem to be overly burdened with suppressing his emotions, entirely.
I do hope that he had love, and friendship, in his life. I hope he had someone to whom he was able to confide the truth to about who, and what, he really was. Someone, who would keep his secret, and who would help him.
I really do hope that he did live for a long time, and that he prospered. 🖖🍻✌
I would also love to know what his status was, but considering that Vulcans live in average of three times the average life expectancy of a human in that decade, unfortunately even if you fell in love with someone and spent their life with them, they would die while he was still a relatively young man. He could spend the next person's life with them and the next person and maybe get old and gray and die with them the third time around. However considering that Vulcan emotions when they are not being fully suppressed or significantly stronger than humans, his grief if he was not practicing his emotional suppression may have overwhelmed him.
@@amandamatheny3675Mestral and The Doctor would have made a nice team. Or, in-universe, Mestral and Gary Seven.
You left out and currently no one has mentioned the Crusher Family's sexy ghost!
Nestral was likely under 100 and would likely survive well past the official first contact with the Vulcans. If he was fairly young (under 40) it is possible he would still be alive in the time of enterprise.
"...who jostled the tree on the day he invented *mavity*."
I heard that, Sean!
I'm surprised you didn't include Quark, Rom and Nog crashlanding in Roswell in 1947, or Spock's interactions with Edith Keeler in 'The City On The Edge Of Forever. Okay, the 2nd one is debatable as he never (IIRC) revealed himself as a Vulcan, but he did display his slightly less than human mannerisms.
"I am endeavouring, ma'am, to construct a mnemonic memory circuit using stone knives and bearskins."
Did I miss the Borg somewhere? Add this to the others mentioned in comments for a second episode of this topic.
Enjoyable, thanks, Sean and crew!
You forgot to mention: the punk in the bus was listening to the song he wrote and produced. It's in the credits of Star Trek IV: "There be whales here and transparent Aluminium where Scotty talks to a Mac IIc via the mouse."
He was a producer on the film. Which is to say that he invested some money in it.
How did the Roswell incident turning out to be Quark and company, not make this list?!?! Even hinting it in the opening.
Everytime I hear or see something about Roswell, I laugh. It's one of my favorite Ferrengi episodes.
I would love to read Mistral's diary of his experiences on Earth.
Really love that "tall tale to tease trip tucker" bit lol
Steve Shives does a longer in depth video on this topic. I recommend you watch it after this one since he doesn't limit himself to 10 options.
Or to Star Trek. That whore.
I think Mestral's fate is a sad piece of peotic irony. His comrades saw humans as Savage and would use their relatively new Atomic weapons to destroy themselves whilst he saw the good potential in us. Perhaps, sadly, the reason no one found his body was because he lived long enough to become one of the millions of casualties of the Third World War and there was nothing left of him to examine.
Or perhaps he took a ride back to Vulcan after 2063. If he was in his 60s or 70s he would be less than 200 by that time
Given the increasing death toll of WW3 in later and later references to it I suspect he did die, but I’d like to think he survived and tried to help rebuild. That these aliens he lived with were going through the same thing Vulcans did (and in a way had their own Romulans by way of Khan’s Augment exiles) and they also simply needed to be shown a better way. Maybe he helped establish First Contact directly or indirectly by somehow helping human science along the way, knowing the Vulcans were watching and what their schedule would be.
Edith Keeler's encounter with Spock, Gary Seven's alien "superiors"
I wished they kept the line in "Little Green Men" when the Captain yells "Remember, you saw nothing here Lt. Roddenberry"
Is this real? 😂
@@IreneWY According to tv tropes
Hearing Sean starting to talk about Newton, I'm thinking "Will he do it? Will he?"... and Sean did not disappoint.
I'd forgotten some of these episodes. Thanks for the reminders
The Vulcans giving humans Velcro in 1957 was dramatic license because IRL Velcro was patented in 1955.
"Tall tales told by T'Pol to tease Trip Tucker"
Bravo, sir. Bravo. 👏👏👏
Carbon Creek is awesome, and I think its a story that could be brought through to modern trek.
I want to know how he managed his Pon Farr, how he obtained healthcare and how generally he hid his Vulcan physiology for so long. Were there other Vulcans on Earth at that time ? If there were, how would he contact them ?
You forgot Gary Seven, whose ancestors were abducted by aliens around 4000 BC. Also, Spock interacted with humans in the 1930s in the classic episode, "City on the Edge of Forever."
Spock's deadpan reply to Gillian's question of "Are you sure you won't change your mind?" with "Is there something wrong with the one I have?" is sheer brilliance, not just for her confused look but on the heels of getting his Katra back where it belonged. That too is Vulcan as a motherf**ker
Also the Vulcans in Picard that scared the little boy who became an agent
Fin fact about that "Punk on the Bus" - You rightly say "...a punk who would like to listen to *his* music really quite loud... " How right you are: the actor playing the punk (Kirk Thatcher, *ahem*) is actually the performer of the music playing on the boombox.
0:08 Considering the fact that hand touching is very intimate to a Vulcan, it's funny how this Vulcan just went along with it like - oh these aliens are wild, let's go.
And the El-Aurian's although i suppose they'll bet part of the other list :D
The American Civil War took place over 500 years
Prior to the events in ST Voyager. Riker,s Civil War ancestor would be a great great great great great
great great grandfather.
I feel like the events in VOY "one small step" kind of count too. It wasn't direct alien contact, but a 20th century astronaut saw proof of alien life.
2:43 - Haha! Mavity. Nice nod to Doctor Who.
Ahh, we have common taste, I do love Carbon Creek for so many reasons.
Kirk Randolph Thatcher was an associate producer of Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, and played the part of the music-blasting Punk on Bus in that film. Thatcher actually composed the song "I Hate You" which plays on his boombox in the movie.
Manavity, brilliant 😂
cute hint of the Roswell ferengi.
I was all set to start screaming in protest of the omission of certain Ferengi incidents, when you teased the follow-up list. Looking forward to it ;)
"Mavity." Nice one! 😃
Some omitions:
- Quark, Rom, and Nog crashing Roswell in the 50's
- Pelia living undercover in early 21st century Earth
How about Guinan living in San Francisco in the 19th Century?
Definitely need a part 2. I was thinking about Quark, Rom, Nog and Odo during this entire video, hoping it was #1! I saw you slip in that last clip though, so… you know!
Before we even get started, I will say that Carbon Creek and little green men both better be on this list otherwise it is incomplete. Oh yes and I believe there was Gary 72 although I don't know too much about that one because I've only seen it once or twice ages ago. There is also the fact that Guinan was in the past in season two of Picard as well as in times arrow in the next generation. In addition to her on times arrow there was those aliens. I'll probably think of Moore as I'm watching but all of those examples must be there in order for the list to be complete and I know I'm probably missing some.
I think Redjac counts as an alien if you're bringing in things that are even more powerful like the Q.
A third episode you could do would be the non-canon but licensed instances, some of which directly involve the aliens from this episode. The Mesoamerican god from the animated series, the Preserver trilogy by Shatner & the Reeves-Stevens, etc.
Methuselah was apparently on earth for many centuries.
Then there's the Lanthanite, a long lived species who have been on earth for thousands of years. Carol Kane established the accent Lanthanite's have.
I love this list!
I loved the fallow up in Picard with the punk
Keep us abreast!
This was a fun one. When I read the title, "10 encounters . . ." I could think of maybe 2 or 3, but didn't recall more. Then on EVERY point in this list, I said to myself - 'Oh yeah I forgot about that one'. And I have seen virtually every series episode and movie at some point, including a free screening of 'The Wrath of Khan' in the student center of my Tech School shortly after it's theatrical release many years ago.
Well researched. Well narrated. Well done. I salute you. I would like to point out one additional Enterprise episode, "North Star," which could be included here.
Carbon Creek is one of my favorite ST episodes of all time, I have no idea why but when she sells that Velcro and brings that money to the bar for the guy to go to school i start crying every time, and I'm not ashamed, but I also don't know why, It just makes me cry for some loopy reason....LOL
At 12:30, one of the cloaked ship’s landing feet crushed the trash can, but not the grass itself. The ground appears to get flatten, but the grass on top of it does not. That’s some bad special effects and then relying on people watching it to be distracted by the flattening of the trash can to not notice the grass not flattening. But, in the end, it was a fun film to watch.
It was a practical effect. They could rig the can to flatten, but rigging every blade of grass would be a bit much.
"Carpenter Street" was the only episode of a TV show where I ended up sending the studio a letter. It wasn't the story, but the setting. I live in the Detroit area, and it made me so angry that the studio couldn't be bothered to research the fact that 1) there are no mountains in the Detroit area, 2) there are also no palm trees in Michigan, and 3) they couldn't open a street map of Detroit to see that certain streets did not intersect with each other. (as a side note, I actually ended up many years later living near Carpenter Street). i was such a little geek back then, but now i'm a much older and wiser geek ;)
Carbon Creek and North Star. Two of my favorites.
Great video! There's an episode of DS9 (S4E7) when Quark and Rom take Nog to Earth for his entrance in the Starfleet Academy. Because of a cousin of Quark is annoyed with him (for reasons...) they along with Odo, travel back Earth in the 1947 and cause the Roswell incident.
There's also one of the Picard episodes which described a Vulcan survey party in the 1950s influencing a boy who later became a federal investigator and arrested and interrogated Picard and Guinan.
Ferengis in the DS9 episode Little Green Men, or the crew of Voyager incl. Tuvok in 1990s Earth. My personal favorite when Kira and O'Brian are looking for Sisko and Bashir (stuck in 21st century Earth ghetto), but they teleport into 1960s where they meet two hippies who give them flowers before they are transported away, which for the hippies probably was believable :D That still gets me:)
I can't believe you left out DS9: "Little Green Men" off this list! LOL, although I did like the hint at the end, yes please do another!
Won't lie, the end of this countdown video was bloody hilarious.
Excellent!
"Who mourns for Adonais actually had a follow up. There was a series fan financed called Star Trek Continues. In the episode "Pilgrim of Eternity" Apollo returned with Michael Forest reprising the role.
Don't forget DS9's "Little Green Men." The Ferengi were the aliens whose ship was taken to Area 51 in 1949. Along with a stowaway changeling the U.S. Air Force were unaware of.
Knowing when to say "when" is a valuable skill.:)
Thanks Sean
Mavity well done sir
I think Guinan should have had her own spot on this list not just a "oh she was there and helped"
I heard what you did there. Cheers Mate!
2063 is only 100 years after carbon creek. Mestral may have even returned to Vulcan before he passed. Depends how old he was in the 1950s I guess.
My thoughts exactly
@@danieloneal7137 I envision an elderly Mestral goes back to Vulcan to pass on his 100 years of research about humans. He would be the foremost authority on humanity and his research would be mandatory reading for any Vulcan being deployed to earth.
Firstly, "mavity" LOVE IT!
Secondly, why is Little Green Men not on this list!?"
I imagine Mestral was still alive 100 plus years later when Vulcans arrived. In fact if he teamed up with Roberta Lincoln and eventually the other Watchers, that would be awesome. And what if they worked with Rios and/or Cochrane?
Basically, I want a Star Trek Phoenix spinoff
We looked at the episode "Carbon Creek" - definitely one of the more entertaining unofficial 'first contacts'!
MAVITY! Thank you for that little nod.
I'm rewatching enterprise at the moment and I've actually just finished to watch the xindi in LA episode.
loved it- forgot Little Green Men and various other time travel episodes
Who says there won't be a part 2?
Carbon Creek Enterprise. One of their best episodes.
Carbon Creek was one of my favorites. It's a shame that story couldn't have been followed up on.
I can't hear Sky Spirits without thinking of the Penguins of Madagascar 😁
Carbon Creek is one of my favorites too! It's a wholesome episode, and doesn't retcon the official first contact since it was kept a secret. If it ever happened at all... :)
Sean, I can't believe you left out Kukulkan, or the Q-like beings from Megas-Tu!
That was Riker's ancient relative from American Civil War, not his grandfather
Just add a couple more grands.
Unless I missed it, Star Trek Enterpise: Regeneration should have easily made the list. It is my favorite of Enterprise.
At least in the top 7...10 favs is hard to reach...more like acceptable. But Regeneration of a BORG cannot be left out.
It would have to be number 1 actually! It teased and tested StarTrek Dogma, but did not cross it! Brilliant episode!
If the writers could have maintained that level, Enterprise could have had the customary 7 seasons!
The Skagarans from ENT episode "North Star". Granted it's a retread of "The 37's", but it still was in 19th century wild west America.
Big up for Mavity.
Technically the events if first contact were encounters before first contact. Also the events of Future’s End.