Wow Dave. That second picture of the mud wagon sent to you revealed some very important information to you about how your wagon was originally designed and built. What a find! That pictorial evidence dramatically changed your direction on the remaining mud wagon restoration work. The picture essentially put you back on the right path towards building an accurate representation of the original wagon. This was a fascinating video! As always, beautiful craftsmanship and outstanding detective work!
Exactly! I think Dave was listening but when offered more information it became obvious where he made a mistake - and a man (or woman) who can front their mistakes / admit the error / able to learn from their mistake just makes them a better human than most. Me, personally, if I ever stopped learning.....well I'd probably send my order to Dave for a 6ft x 4ft x 4ft planed and varnished solid wood with handcrafted metalwork coffin because I know it'd be built to perfection and with passion and pride.
You are to be commended on your ability to change direction as new evidence emerges. I will not be surprised if your completed mud wagon is exactly like the original. 👍👍Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂
I love the way you are puzzling it all out. I like the way it is beginning to look now following the new information. To my uninformed eye it seems right. I am impatient to see it come together however that may be. One thing I'm certain of is that the end result will be fantastic. Thanks.
That's some great thoughtful work you're doing. And very educational for a novice woodworker like myself. Learning a lot, not just about the building methods, but more importantly the thinking that goes into something like this.
When you started with a pile of rust and splinters, I knew this was going to be a challenge. It's fascinating to hear your process of figuring things out.
I love the moment when something jumps out of a photo or a document and grabs your attention. I think of it as a 'eureka' moment, when a link is made between maybe and probably!
Dave has some amazing tools in his shop, many custom-made by Dave. Yet, it occurs to me that the most important tool in his entire shop is the humble #2 pencil that he wields with such practiced ease.
It’s the mark of a true professional when you can say - yep - that was wrong, let’s do it right and throw all that previous work to one side. Let’s face it, the owner probably wouldn’t have had a clue that it wasn’t correct, but you did and that’s all that counts.
Exactly what I was thinking. As hard as it is to admit being wrong, It does get easier with practice, and I can say that from experience. The process that we go through can sometimes be even more valuable than the product we produce in terms of character and reputation. After a while we can look back on our lives and say that admitting our mistakes can be among the best decisions we ever made.
This is way better than any jigsaw puzzle I have ever seen. fascinating process and very satisfying to watch, it must be incredibly rewarding to actually build and complete a project like this. Thanks for sharing
This series just keeps getting better! Great detective work on your part Dave. Considering what you started with I am amazed how fast and how far you are along. That you didn't just "build it the way you thought it should be", speaks well of your commitment to both history and craftmanship of this wagon! I can hardly wait for the next video!
You are a MASTER at seeing what was there with very little. I would be in Heaven in your shop. What you do with historic record reconstruction long ago modes of transportation. Plus the smell of fresh cut wood is my elixir. Thank You for what you do.
When you put the puzzle together and it looks right it is right. The Irons are saying see told ya, now I feel back home where I belong. Well figured out, a nice bit of reverse engineering.
Every time i watch one of these episode and builds i'm amazed and learn a great deal not only about the history but all these little intricacy's of these coaches and all the hard work that went into building them.. Seeing them up close and all the iron work made me think man those craftspeople of the times had so many varying skills to be able to put them together. Just like we see Mr Engels do to be able to rebuild these literately from scratch.. From the iron work to wood work to wheelwright. Gives me a real appreciation for it all.
Dave this has been a thoroughly enjoyable series so far. I have to admit I'll almost be disappointed when you finish it and at the same time can't wait to see it done. What a conundrum.😂
Dave your middle seat, at the end, matches perfectly the new photo. I am as sure as possible that you have it correctly now. But with something this old, it is never possible to be _certain._
I enjoy watching you come up with the design of these benches. I like how you use the C-clamps to hold everything in place so that you can attach all the parts. Stay safe.
Thank you Matt with your research and providing your findings which seems to have aided Dave tremendously, thus we see the "plan B" results. Mr & Mrs Engels (the name always reminds me of one of my old favorite B&W TV shows; "little House On the Prairie"), thank you for the very educational contents you provide to your faithful audience. A history lesson back in time where you bring back life of years past. Not many can do that these days. May God continue to shine his grace upon you and your audience!
so, 1) LOVED that seamless transition from the first seat configuration to the second... I had to double take and laugh!!! 2) Love when you do the finger pointing; this line here, see it fits here... very fun, and 3) I just can't get over the detail you see and the detail you create!!! thank you for your work and vids!!!
... G'day Dave, time, help from caring friends, and pictures. The clues revealed are most interesting. Cheers, blessings, and thanks again for your videos. Malcolm.
In true Agatha Christie mystery style, this wagon is slowly revealing it's secrets!! And in a true Hercule Poirot manner, finding those secrets!! I noticed in the 2nd photo, it appears that the upper seat backs appear padded, as well as higher. I imagine sitting on hard wood, even in those times, would help cushion the metal bars holding the backs and hand rails, would be encouraged!! =) THANK YOU for a BERY enjoyable video!!
Absolutely fascinating work Dave, a mixture of archeological research and skilled craftsmanship! The seat as it is now just looks right. I doubt if I’m the only one who wishes that the video was longer as I could watch this process for hours! Thanks for letting us follow along.
I became that engrossed in watching this edition of the mud wagon that it seemed to be over so quickly. Looking forward to the next. Always excellent workmanship and brilliant deduction with regard to construction.
“The difference between winning and losing is most often not quitting.” -Walt Disney. -I sincerely enjoy the archeological puzzle you have put up for us on display, with all the setbacks and reconsiderations it takes to move small steps forward in the right direction. Thank you for your persistence and honesty in filming and sharing with us all the setbacks too - it is such an important part of the process to fully understand the complexity of this arceological undertaking
Oooooh, it’s a little frustrating to have to move on to plan B etc but the satisfaction is derived from knowing we did the best we could with the information to hand. For me it’s so interesting to see how you can deduce the way forward from such a limited information source. It’s an awesome series for us. Thanks for all your hard work. Slainge.
This has been a fascinating puzzle build to watch. Dave, Your detective work is really paying off. And Diane your editing on this episode is actually quite captivating. your fade from scene to scene and shot to shot are spot on to high light the subject matter in frame. This has been a great series and the owner will have a very fine Wagon indeed when completed. Thanks for sharing.
I'm just in awe!.....it is truly an honor to watch you deduce what it could be, what it might be and what it truly was......incredible! Love your show !
I mostly restored(hull and deck done with house timber framework in place) a 40 foot tug b.1925, rebuilding her into what she looked like when she plied our local waters in Vancouver BC using two historic photos I found in the Library's Special Collections. It is a challenging affair that one has to be willing take on as people see things differently in fuzzy photos. I wish I could have finished her but with no investors and changing passenger carrying laws, I just couldn't afford it. Keep up the great work; nice to watch while my shop nears completion.
It is because of dedicated meticulous experts like you that we have ANYTHING more than rocks and tree limbs as tools and equipment to make our lives happy and meaningful. I salute you.
Nice result. We have had a few ‘head scratchers’ on house renovations in the past. Always learning. Sometimes the allegedly simple task of avoiding distractions is a huge challenge in itself, given the inevitable interruptions of urgent customer repairs. Thank you for another excellent video. Cheers from NZ🇳🇿.
I have watched all of your video's from day one and I look forward every week for the next one. I marvel at your skills and imagination in re-building these old means of transport . One of the most pleasing things to me is your use of the term " often times ", here in the UK we mainly use the term "quite often " I think " often times " is much more lyrical. What a simple thing to give me pleasure, please keep using it. Roll on next week.
Love watching u build these couches wish sometime they were longer I watch your shows over and over I was raised on a working cattle ranch in south west Texas love these old styles wagons thank u for sharing with us
Looking Good Dave, an intriguing and interesting story book slowly getting back together. It was very lucky getting that other photograph and what where the chances it would be the same chap with his paperwork. Can't wait till the next installment. Regards to you and yours. Richard 🇬🇧
Dave that was an interesting video. I sure enjoy watching your craftmanship at work and your ability to make corrections as you go. If you recall I am restoring an old farm wagon and just today I finely got time to begin working on the project again. I ran into a snag on the brake system and so I too am on to plan B. Thanks for the videos.
By definition builder, remodeler, and restorer may all share the original foundation in comon. But their finished product could look quite different for each. The satisfaction of restoring this mud wagon to its original appearance brings its own reward.
Hi Dave and Diane, Always enjoy watching your videos. Great sleuthing on the construction of that mud wagon with the help of the photos provided. Looking forward to the videos for the rest of the construction. You both stay safe.
I look at a job and figure all the ways I could do it. Half way through Jeff makes an innocent comment. Aswan - changing direction. He's done that to me three times so far. Good work pardner to have around. Aswan - the first time I heard that, I was told it is the biggest dam around.
I love to see you adjust your plan as you have found a different picture of a mud wagon, a lot of extra work, but there is nothing like perfection. Thank you again for teaching me.
I so appreciate your determination to get it RIGHT. I am the same way about things looking right and if historical, be true to the original. Did a kitchen remodel on a late 1920s house a few years back, and of course, I installed a DRAINBOARD tile countertop, despite some questions of why I didn't do a granite countertop. There are some concessions you have to make for a modern kitchen, but for that era of house in it's "price range", the old square edge drainboard with hex tiles and subway tile backsplash was the only correct choice. It looks like the way you showed here logically must be correct. Kudos to you!🤠
Always so interesting! Wonderful to watch you at work and your skills are certainly impressive. It is certainly true that we have not all been created equal with skills and gifts. May God Bless you in all that you do.
I love these videos, so much so that I look forward to Fridays and Tuesdays uploads. If I had any complaint it would be that I wish they were longer as it just not enough lol. I think if the videos 30 minutes or more would be perfect and I would be in absolute heaven. Either way it's shaping up beautifully Dave! 👍👍
More information in the form of a clear photo certainly was a big help. "A picture is worth a thousand words".
I'm sitting many miles away in the Netherlands and absolutely fascinated by the living history unfolding. Thank you for recording this
My grandfather Far Far was wheelwright in Denmark
I’m fascinated watching Dave
It gives me and idea of my Far Far work
Seeing a second old picture with what looks like the same guy is fascinating! The project is coming right along! 👍😁👍
Thank you for your hard work. What you are doing is greatly appreciated.
Forensic carriage reconstruction at its finest. Thank you Mr. Engels. Absolutely fascinating.
Dave Engel the all American "Carriage Sleuth" is always on the job!!
Rock on Dave....
Wow Dave. That second picture of the mud wagon sent to you revealed some very important information to you about how your wagon was originally designed and built. What a find! That pictorial evidence dramatically changed your direction on the remaining mud wagon restoration work. The picture essentially put you back on the right path towards building an accurate representation of the original wagon. This was a fascinating video! As always, beautiful craftsmanship and outstanding detective work!
Exactly! I think Dave was listening but when offered more information it became obvious where he made a mistake - and a man (or woman) who can front their mistakes / admit the error / able to learn from their mistake just makes them a better human than most.
Me, personally, if I ever stopped learning.....well I'd probably send my order to Dave for a 6ft x 4ft x 4ft planed and varnished solid wood with handcrafted metalwork coffin because I know it'd be built to perfection and with passion and pride.
Now the odd pieces are starting to all fit together.
You are to be commended on your ability to change direction as new evidence emerges. I will not be surprised if your completed mud wagon is exactly like the original. 👍👍Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂
I love the way you are puzzling it all out. I like the way it is beginning to look now following the new information. To my uninformed eye it seems right. I am impatient to see it come together however that may be. One thing I'm certain of is that the end result will be fantastic. Thanks.
That's some great thoughtful work you're doing. And very educational for a novice woodworker like myself. Learning a lot, not just about the building methods, but more importantly the thinking that goes into something like this.
When you started with a pile of rust and splinters, I knew this was going to be a challenge. It's fascinating to hear your process of figuring things out.
At mudwagon's looking better and better every time you put a video up
Another master's lesson: "Lesten what carriage say to you". Greetings from Limache, Chile.
I love the moment when something jumps out of a photo or a document and grabs your attention. I think of it as a 'eureka' moment, when a link is made between maybe and probably!
More than a coach-builder, carpenter, blacksmith and all of your other craft, you are also a historian a man of great wisdom!
Dave has some amazing tools in his shop, many custom-made by Dave. Yet, it occurs to me that the most important tool in his entire shop is the humble #2 pencil that he wields with such practiced ease.
The most important tool is the extensive encyclopedia in his brain! Second is probably the pencil.
Love the analysis part. Re-construction of history is what makes this channel unique.
It’s the mark of a true professional when you can say - yep - that was wrong, let’s do it right and throw all that previous work to one side. Let’s face it, the owner probably wouldn’t have had a clue that it wasn’t correct, but you did and that’s all that counts.
Exactly what I was thinking. As hard as it is to admit being wrong, It does get easier with practice, and I can say that from experience. The process that we go through can sometimes be even more valuable than the product we produce in terms of character and reputation. After a while we can look back on our lives and say that admitting our mistakes can be among the best decisions we ever made.
This is way better than any jigsaw puzzle I have ever seen. fascinating process and very satisfying to watch, it must be incredibly rewarding to actually build and complete a project like this.
Thanks for sharing
The iron never lies... Your craftsmanship and attention to detail constantly amazes me.
Just love your sense of humor, Dave - especially deciding which plan it was going to be !! Ha, Ha!!
This series just keeps getting better! Great detective work on your part Dave. Considering what you started with I am amazed how fast and how far you are along. That you didn't just "build it the way you thought it should be", speaks well of your commitment to both history and craftmanship of this wagon! I can hardly wait for the next video!
You’ve always been good at putting puzzles together when all the parts are not available.
Dave, an absolute master carriage historian! thanks for the journey into your findings of the original works.
A good jigsaw puzzle to work on. Fascinating detective work.
The, no compromise and insane attention to detail is mind blowing :)
Happy St Patrick's Day from Ireland
Sane to you.
I think your right Dave, I think you headed in the right direction. Looks right feel s right.
You are a MASTER at seeing what was there with very little. I would be in Heaven in your shop. What you do with historic record reconstruction long ago modes of transportation. Plus the smell of fresh cut wood is my elixir. Thank You for what you do.
When you put the puzzle together and it looks right it is right. The Irons are saying see told ya, now I feel back home where I belong. Well figured out, a nice bit of reverse engineering.
Every time i watch one of these episode and builds i'm amazed and learn a great deal not only about the history but all these little intricacy's of these coaches and all the hard work that went into building them.. Seeing them up close and all the iron work made me think man those craftspeople of the times had so many varying skills to be able to put them together. Just like we see Mr Engels do to be able to rebuild these literately from scratch.. From the iron work to wood work to wheelwright. Gives me a real appreciation for it all.
Dave this has been a thoroughly enjoyable series so far. I have to admit I'll almost be disappointed when you finish it and at the same time can't wait to see it done. What a conundrum.😂
Dave your middle seat, at the end, matches perfectly the new photo. I am as sure as possible that you have it correctly now. But with something this old, it is never possible to be _certain._
I enjoy watching you come up with the design of these benches. I like how you use the C-clamps to hold everything in place so that you can attach all the parts. Stay safe.
Dave, where do you find lumber of that width and quality ?
@@2pugman He is gluing up smaller boards to make those large panels
You are a true master of your trade, always learning.
One must remember to trust your intuition, and take the fork in the road, no mater how many tines it has, when new information is presented!
So the second picture was the best to guide you along a little better......Thanks Dave 👍
Shoe🇺🇸
Thank you Matt with your research and providing your findings which seems to have aided Dave tremendously, thus we see the "plan B" results. Mr & Mrs Engels (the name always reminds me of one of my old favorite B&W TV shows; "little House On the Prairie"), thank you for the very educational contents you provide to your faithful audience. A history lesson back in time where you bring back life of years past. Not many can do that these days. May God continue to shine his grace upon you and your audience!
Thank you.
Between the hotel and the coach I love the out loud thinking going on. So intriguing. Thank you for your videos
This guy’s brilliant - in all sorts of different ways!
so, 1) LOVED that seamless transition from the first seat configuration to the second... I had to double take and laugh!!! 2) Love when you do the finger pointing; this line here, see it fits here... very fun, and 3) I just can't get over the detail you see and the detail you create!!! thank you for your work and vids!!!
Can't imagine all that ironwork being very comfortable even with a cushion
... G'day Dave,
time, help from caring friends, and pictures. The clues revealed are most interesting.
Cheers, blessings, and thanks again for your videos.
Malcolm.
It pains me to have to see you pitch all the work that went into the original seat bases, but I admire your dedication to 'Getting it Right'.
Dave. Any plan from you will be Tops
You are the puzzle master
Thank You
You continue to amaze me in the way that you are able to rebuild that coach from some rotten wood, twisted irons, and a couple of old photos.
In true Agatha Christie mystery style, this wagon is slowly revealing it's secrets!! And in a true Hercule Poirot manner, finding those secrets!!
I noticed in the 2nd photo, it appears that the upper seat backs appear padded, as well as higher. I imagine sitting on hard wood, even in those times, would help cushion the metal bars holding the backs and hand rails, would be encouraged!! =)
THANK YOU for a BERY enjoyable video!!
Absolutely fascinating work Dave, a mixture of archeological research and skilled craftsmanship! The seat as it is now just looks right. I doubt if I’m the only one who wishes that the video was longer as I could watch this process for hours! Thanks for letting us follow along.
I like the twist and turns in this build,Dave. Everyone loves a good mystery.
I became that engrossed in watching this edition of the mud wagon that it seemed to be over so quickly. Looking forward to the next. Always excellent workmanship and brilliant deduction with regard to construction.
“The difference between winning and losing is most often not quitting.” -Walt Disney. -I sincerely enjoy the archeological puzzle you have put up for us on display, with all the setbacks and reconsiderations it takes to move small steps forward in the right direction. Thank you for your persistence and honesty in filming and sharing with us all the setbacks too - it is such an important part of the process to fully understand the complexity of this arceological undertaking
Thanks Dave & Diane!!! I'm loving the story and the 'journey' Good Stuff!
I love your deductive reasoning on this build as much as the wood working.
Oooooh, it’s a little frustrating to have to move on to plan B etc but the satisfaction is derived from knowing we did the best we could with the information to hand. For me it’s so interesting to see how you can deduce the way forward from such a limited information source. It’s an awesome series for us. Thanks for all your hard work. Slainge.
At least plan B is a variation on what has been done before - so much worse if you have start again from a much earlier point in the project.
"Tis a wise man who can say, "Whoops!"
After perusing mud wagon pic's I was hoping this was the way you were going to go.
Thanks for including so much of your thought process.
This has been a fascinating puzzle build to watch. Dave, Your detective work is really paying off. And Diane your editing on this episode is actually quite captivating. your fade from scene to scene and shot to shot are spot on to high light the subject matter in frame. This has been a great series and the owner will have a very fine Wagon indeed when completed. Thanks for sharing.
This came so nice together. Can’t wait to see the next episode!
Your eye for detail spotting the same person in both pictures was amazing. The pictures also look like they were taken with similar camera gear.
I think its gotta be the same town center ..maybe years apart
An honest man, and workmanship worthy of the Smithsonian any day! Well done!
I am late today. This thing is 10 minutes old!!
Happy St Patrick’s Day Dave and Diane!!
Thank you. Same to you.
I'm just in awe!.....it is truly an honor to watch you deduce what it could be, what it might be and what it truly was......incredible!
Love your show !
Deduce
I mostly restored(hull and deck done with house timber framework in place) a 40 foot tug b.1925, rebuilding her into what she looked like when she plied our local waters in Vancouver BC using two historic photos I found in the Library's Special Collections. It is a challenging affair that one has to be willing take on as people see things differently in fuzzy photos. I wish I could have finished her but with no investors and changing passenger carrying laws, I just couldn't afford it.
Keep up the great work; nice to watch while my shop nears completion.
Thank goodness for old pictures and subscriber input !! Fascinating build Dave. Thanks for taking us along with the discoveries !!
As usual outstanding work from a true Craftsman Kind Regards from Liverpool England.
I have a lot of respect for your skills and knowledge and I cannot praise you enough for sharing those precious gifts with your viewers, thank you.
It is because of dedicated meticulous experts like you that we have ANYTHING more than rocks and tree limbs as tools and equipment to make our lives happy and meaningful. I salute you.
say what???
Nice result. We have had a few ‘head scratchers’ on house renovations in the past. Always learning. Sometimes the allegedly simple task of avoiding distractions is a huge challenge in itself, given the inevitable interruptions of urgent customer repairs. Thank you for another excellent video. Cheers from NZ🇳🇿.
I have watched all of your video's from day one and I look forward every week for the next one. I marvel at your skills and imagination in re-building these old means of transport . One of the most pleasing things to me is your use of the term " often times ", here in the UK we mainly use the term "quite often " I think " often times " is much more lyrical. What a simple thing to give me pleasure, please keep using it. Roll on next week.
What a solid community... Thanks for sharing.
Love watching u build these couches wish sometime they were longer I watch your shows over and over I was raised on a working cattle ranch in south west Texas love these old styles wagons thank u for sharing with us
Plan C, third time's a charm, no difference so long as it is correct. Great work Dave.
I always feel better after watching your videos , thanks for making my day.
I am so impressed with your analytical skills.
Gotta love a challenge!
Every week we get another great video of historic content. Keep it up my friend. Hope to see you again in the summer!
Your table saw is soooo slick! Seems to me that you have the seats figured out, and they are looking good. Thank you for the video Dave.
Stay safe and we'll see you next week.
Dave, you are a national treasure
Excellent work as usual. Thanks for sharing.
Looking Good Dave, an intriguing and interesting story book slowly getting back together. It was very lucky getting that other photograph and what where the chances it would be the same chap with his paperwork. Can't wait till the next installment. Regards to you and yours.
Richard 🇬🇧
Dave that was an interesting video. I sure enjoy watching your craftmanship at work and your ability to make corrections as you go. If you recall I am restoring an old farm wagon and just today I finely got time to begin working on the project again. I ran into a snag on the brake system and so I too am on to plan B. Thanks for the videos.
By definition builder, remodeler, and restorer may all share the original foundation in comon. But their finished product could look quite different for each. The satisfaction of restoring this mud wagon to its original appearance brings its own reward.
You never cease to Amaze..! 👍🏻
Thank’s Dave, instant stress relief. I wish l still had my forge and anvil, it was always a rewarding challenge shaping metal.
Glad Matt found the old photo. Love it when the pieces of the puzzle fit together.
Hi Dave and Diane,
Always enjoy watching your videos. Great sleuthing on the construction of that mud wagon with the help of the photos provided. Looking forward to the videos for the rest of the construction. You both stay safe.
Hi Don
I look at a job and figure all the ways I could do it. Half way through Jeff makes an innocent comment. Aswan - changing direction. He's done that to me three times so far. Good work pardner to have around. Aswan - the first time I heard that, I was told it is the biggest dam around.
I love to see you adjust your plan as you have found a different picture of a mud wagon, a lot of extra work, but there is nothing like perfection. Thank you again for teaching me.
Detective Dave is on the case!
Deductive reasoning!
I work with timber all week and watch someone doing the same on Friday nite😊
Amazing how the project is coming together!
I so appreciate your determination to get it RIGHT. I am the same way about things looking right and if historical, be true to the original. Did a kitchen remodel on a late 1920s house a few years back, and of course, I installed a DRAINBOARD tile countertop, despite some questions of why I didn't do a granite countertop. There are some concessions you have to make for a modern kitchen, but for that era of house in it's "price range", the old square edge drainboard with hex tiles and subway tile backsplash was the only correct choice. It looks like the way you showed here logically must be correct. Kudos to you!🤠
wow just amazing skill. you would be an awesome history teacher.
That is a satisfying theory on the seats, and they look correct. Great work on finding the old picture matt.
Always so interesting! Wonderful to watch you at work and your skills are certainly impressive. It is certainly true that we have not all been created equal with skills and gifts. May God Bless you in all that you do.
Projects: They be many. Completed projects: They be few. ^~^
Very good that 2nd picure came along. Who would havre thought? And yah, that is definately the same businessman.
I love these videos, so much so that I look forward to Fridays and Tuesdays uploads. If I had any complaint it would be that I wish they were longer as it just not enough lol. I think if the videos 30 minutes or more would be perfect and I would be in absolute heaven. Either way it's shaping up beautifully Dave! 👍👍
You are a very meticulous man. Nice work.