NIO ES8 Test Drive | Fifth Gear
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- Опубліковано 26 тра 2022
- NIO ES8 and the battery swap station of the future. Vicki and JP test out an all-new SUV that has been launched by Chinese manufacturer NIO. The ES8 is a luxury SUV that should give Tesla something to worry about…especially as it has the very latest battery swap technology which could spell the end of EV range anxiety and long charge times…
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It's now 1 month since I bought the Nio Es8 after selling my Tesla model x. What is very good about the ES8 is comfort and especially driving comfort. Perfect suspension and very little noise both from road and wind. Battery swap is ingenious in that you do not have to think about the condition of the battery and and it is quick to change. But perhaps the most important thing for many of us who have bought the car is that the car is not outdated by later and better generations of batteries. Nio is committed to ensuring that later generations of batteries are compatible with the current version of Nio. It is the constant development of better batteries that reduces the price of used cars, but with this tecno this will be way much better.
The innovation on battery replace/maintenance make NIO the most starring one in all EVs
Fantastic concept , what is the cost of a battery change ?
@@karlmartyn9316 For those of us who ordered the car before March 1, there are 6 times / 600kw battery swap for free every month. If the car is ordered now, there are 2 free awap every month. Then pay 10 euros for the swap and 0.20 euros kW.
Indeed. There are Model S with dead batteries already. Battery replacement sets you back 20k - which makes a dead Tesla worthless. A 10 year old NIO with BAAS will still have its value since the battery can be swapped any time. Never out of warranty.
CCP tracking you.
I've got an older version of NIO ES8 in China. The most interesting thing is NIO provide many after market upgrades for the old models. For example, the chipset on my ES8 is very old, it is running slower than the newest chipset. And the cameras on my older ES8 is not very clear. NIO now provides me a chance to upgrade the chipset and all cameras on my old ES8 for about 1300USD.
Now this is the first electric car that has actually excited me
You should check out the NIO lineup then. My fav is the NIO ET7.
@@zhe8586 wow stunning car I’ve just had a look. Different to anything I’ve seen on the roads. If it’s not too much out of budget it would be on shortlist
@@joshhancill7273 If you want a cheaper one, go for Nio ET5 :)
Great video. Most of Tesla users are not aware of the battery replacement cost, which can be from $16K-$26K after they are out of their warranties. Battery degradation is another problem they will face. Battery replacement has numerous advantages for users, as long as NIO can keep it financially feasible for its business operation. Please do not forget that NIO does offer regular charging option too.
For 26K USDs you can buy a very good ev sedan in China (I repeat very good).
Somesay, the best product Tesla ever made was its stock(before Elon Musk started selling)
The battery is also the most expansive component in an EV. If by choosing the battery swap plan the car is cheaper, I think it could help push EVs in a big way.
Battery replacement is the future I think, I have a ES6 in China and the battery swap is nice because I don’t want to feel bad when it eventually needs to be replaced. Also it’s nice to go from 10% to 95% in like 4 mins with the swap stations
Elon Musk passed the battery replacement/recycling costs onto his Tesla customers for a financially-motivated reason. I Twitter you not!
Getting my Nio in 3 weeks time🤩
Wow.. did you get it?
@@kks319 jepp 😎 been with me 36 days and driven 6000km already. Business class to drive.
When the long range battery comes out, the car will be more the perfect.
Only negative is the front bushes are a little weak on bumpe roads because it’s a big car, and brakes could be a little bigger. But all in all great car. And I drive a lot. Ps not taxi driver😂😂
@@XRP-all-to-the-maxwhat was the wait time in total?
@@sudarsankunde4862 to buy, about three weeks. The setup I wanted was in stock so I grabbed it.
I live in Chicago, last nov. I bought an ID4, but that was a substitute for ES8, after realizing Nio may never come to the US... sigh! I am so envious of you!
had a ES6 for a year, best car ever. ordering my ET7 now
welcome to zeekr001
have you gotten ur ET7 yet?
ES6 OWENER， waiting for ET5 for my wife
Waiting for et7 in the UK
When will Italia get this. I'm just so tired of the same cars I see here day in and day out. BMW, Mercedes, fiat, alfa. Good cars but u want this amazing car.
a lot of respect for Nio. They are investing so much in battery as service concept. I hope their success continues facing the tense EV competition.
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Chinese industry spionage in EU and the US and the fact that China is a dictature that wouldn´t mind if Russia invaded Europe is forgotten. Westeners are soo easily decieved in the lust for consumtion and cheap thrills.
israel did this before more then 10 years no success either the concept. all the battery change places are standing close
I like that kind of companies that tries to make you enjoy EV, not like the "You have no choice, otherwise you will all die" companies. The battery swap and Nomi, i love that.
Agreed, many corporations have"rent seeking" business model to ensure continuous revenue stream with the intention of screwing customers.
Omg. Now I’m interested in electric cars. This is amazing. ❤️❤️
In China, a pure electric car can run 500 kilometers, only 20,404.54 - 24,550.60 US dollars. So BYD sells crazy, not to mention BYD hybrid cars, which consume 3-4L of fuel per 100 kilometers, which is a little more expensive than pure electric cars.
Do you seriously think the U.S. (who effectively arrested the CEO of a Chinese 5G company IN CANADA) would ever allow Chinese penetration of their EV market?
Chinese EV's are so kickass...just waoo...!!
Their build quality is so much better than Tesla..they give look and feel of a high end vehicle...the build quality... design..the elegance ... simply amazing..!!
Hongqi E-HS9 👍
Why do you think Tesla can cut their prices over and over again, too much profits in there.
This is why Fifth Gear is THE BEST car show... just pure journalism by two legends! Jason barely aged in 20 years... And VBH is still stunning 😍
agreed - Hammond is a waste of space, Clarkson & May amusing but too extreme and tangential to automotive journalism
VBH & Plato...charming and relevant :)
@@davidstuart4915 nah, top gear better.
Nah, top gear better.
"Stunning" is an over the top description.
@@Alan_GA well I've had a crush on her for the last 20 years... she'll always be stunning to me 🥰
The little robot is adorable. The fact that it looks in your direction when you speak to it makes it feel more interactive and immersive
we need this in USA asap
😮 now a robotic automatic battery removal and reinstall, That's very very impressive to see, Just goes to show that sometimes we think things aren't moving forwards and then a reminder like this comes along 🏅😎
Ok I’ll admit that little avatar Nomi is freaking adorable.
In terms of depreciation this is a game changer because with ev's battery degradation is a major depreciation point. Yes the body will have some degradation but the bulk worries will be gone.
Real-life Tesla Battery info shows that after 150k miles, the battery capacity is at 90% of the original capacity.
There are no worries about battery depreciation so not sure what your point is…..
well you can leave the battery in and charge with a cable then. but the option is always there for a battery swap as battery tech improves
@@wrutherfordx3x 10% degradation & more worry than any NIO owner would incur. ✅
Also as the battery technology will advance in the future you'll get automatic upgrades because they'll just keep making better batteries compatible to the old cars.
Better take Chinese cars seriously now folks. No more of cheap junk and copy cats stuff. This car seems to be put together well, the tech is excellent an that battery swap machine was fluid and precise. I'd prefer one of their sedans but and am not crazy about the way the assistant looks but this thing works well. And the whole thing about charging taking a long time is solved here. The only issue is how long do you have to wait for your turn for a battery swap.
The Nomi assistant is a paid optional feature.
According to NIO, you don't have to wait at all for batteries to be charged.
There are a total of 13 batteries inside the Gen 2 swap station, and the full charge takes less than one hour.
If there are less than 13 people in front of you, then you will have a full battery no doubt.
If there are more than 13 people in line, then the battery swapped out from the first guy's car will be charged in full when it's your turn.
You can check how many people are in line for battery swaps before you head to the station.
My friend Chinese products . They have from cheaper and expensive depending how you want to spend the money 😆
But they are Chinese. Purchase a Chinese car, and you, whether you like it or not, are supporting the China government (CCP). China is not a country we should be supporting. The Uighur Muslims are a great example, but just the tip of the evil iceberg.
@@KCL2021 So agree!
This car was around 4 years already in China, and without needing change any tech and trim,
Interesting to see that in Europe...we really need this
It’s on sale in some European countries. Too bad we can only envy in US, the politics won’t allow us to buy one here.
Hope they’ll bring the ET7 to Europe too as it’s the one that will make us forget about Tesla and the like
ET5 will be better
@@gadgetgasspoll2923 Whatever Nio does will be very welcome
@@gadgetgasspoll2923 我也非常的喜欢et5
@@gadgetgasspoll2923 U will see zeekr001
Shipment of ET7 is on its way to Europe from China right now ;)
NIO is a game changer; I cannot wait until we see the ET5 in North American. I will be first in line
The CEO is a pragmatic visionary.
I will be second. Just hope it will be soon.
then you will be the first to realize that this is an out of date, blind alley concept - do you seriously expect several billion dollars worth of complex automated stations and stockpile of batteries to magically suddenly materialize???
@@davidstuart4915 Remember, you can always charge it. I am sure NIO can put a few exchange stations in California and NY.
@@wsurfer2147 indeed..and yes....a few..
Following NIO since 2019. By far the most competitive EV brand worldwide. Once Bat Swap comes in your country there is no other EV to pick. Money is a must 😎🤭👍
Just imagine if this technology was THE industry standard. Regardless of make or model, the battery was the same (in maybe 3 sizes) every current petrol station was the battery swap station (along with a carwash and toilets/ shop/ fast food outlet.
Bish bash bong, you leave the car to do its thing in the automated battery swap and optional car wash, while you either sit in it, nip to the loo or shop.
It was tried before by Renault and it never really worked; building the stations is incredibly expensive, so you would be driving an extra fifty miles to get to the swap station and you get no guarantee that you're not swapping your 100% capacity battery for a 75% capacity one. When a rapid charge only takes fifteen minutes (during which you can go for a cup of tea and a wee) there's not enough benefit.
@@littlebluepanda394 Actually I changed my mind, from "it is a gimmick" to it is ok..
In Shenzhen are now over 30 charging stations, then you go over 1000km with only swapping batteries. That means you can use the full range. And not only charging from 5%-80%.
I am going to make a 1000km test-drive, when the lockdowns and restrictions are over.
@@littlebluepanda394 rapid charging is 30-50 minutes don't try to fool people 😅 winter kills charge rate, or anything below +5C really.
@@_TrueDesire_ What would I know, I've only driven EVs for the last six years, eh? Yes, if you want to go from zero to 80% then you're looking at 20-30 minutes, but when was the last time that you ran your car down to zero? A normal rapid stop for me is as long as it takes to get a cup of tea and go for a whizz and when I come back I'm at 75% - 85% and I'm on my way. Also winter has no real effect on charge rate in most EVs because they have battery conditioning (Nissan's Leaf is the big exception there). You've never even driven an EV, have you?
@@littlebluepanda394 I've driven/leased Leaf 2019, old Ioniq, Kona, i3 2017 and i3S all took around 40 minutes going from around ~10--80%. Those 15 minutes belong solely to the 800V cars and Teslas when they are very low.
edit: even my 2022 i3S when it's around 3C outside like it was today can take 5-7 minutes before ramping up. just last week it took 45 minutes going from 8% to 85% (it's pretty much at 93% the i3S drops with its tiny battery).
Ok that battery swap was amazing
NIO is an amazing company. I'm proud to be an investor and I can't wait for them to come to Canada! Battery swap and Baas will be global in the next 3-5 years. Go NIO! Great video👍
Only in your dreams. As much as I love NIO, the company will not enter North America or let's put it this way... North America will not let them enter in the market.
couldn’t of said it better. ! Love NIO
@@niosanfrancisco Let's go !! NIO 🚀🚀
@@ronaldchan3401 NIO are already in the US. Their vehicle systems are developed in San Jose, California. Design happens in Munich and when they launch in North America, it is most certainly with locally produced vehicles. US is one of the 25 new markets planned by 2025.
I wanna know when NIO can be available in US
Good review, well done to you both , great duo.
I'd buy it just for Nomi. Plus the interior is miles better than anything Tesla is currently producing or could ever hope to produce if todays styling is anything to go on.
@Mr. ENERGY Tesla has never monopolized electric vehicles in China. In recent months, the sales volume of BYD brand is several times that of Tesla. The production and sales of electric vehicles in China exceed the sum of all other countries in the world.
This interior isn't as near as good as a Model S or X interior try again.
@@freddybell8328 bro, are you American? 😄
@@freddybell8328 that is hilarious. you must think a burger taste better than a proper stake. tesla is the poor men's upscale car. it has nothing to do with luxury.
@@qilu2004 He is just typical American.
That battery swap _thing_ is pure outside-of-the-box thinking and can revolutionize the electric car market! Very impressive!
ikr. It literally cuts upwards of 40 minutes of charging in a station.
Batteries swaping will be from the past when you will charge 80% of you battery in 10-15 mn. Also making swapping station infrastructure is veeery expensive, and won´t be possible at scale.
The battery swapping is certainly interesting, especially for delivery vehicles and taxis!
Great video, thank you for sharing! 🔌⚡🚘
it's a game changer for us not having access to over night/after work charging.
I love fifth gear. No one does it like they do… fun, informative, and entertaining. But in regards to this vehicle, I’m blown away. The idea of the battery change is innovative. Very cool.
I have been asking this question for a while now, not about recharging but about replacing at end of life, why not just put a giant removable battery on the bottom of the car - But hey, it works for both.
Thanks for a great video guy, I really enjoyed this review 💪
Can't wait to buy one in the USA. I am welling to stand in line for a whole day to get it :)
If it ever sells, most likely not going to have a swapping option.
Such an awesome car and honest review.
The battery swap is the future and the interior is just mind blowing considering it be a newcomer in EU market.
The interior is soooo damn classy and elegance!
NIO IS A 100% chinese company ! CHINA IS A FASCIST TOTALITARIAN REGIME !
The X-Peng P7 is another awesome EV
I love this video. First time hearing NOMI speak English!
NOMI is the game changer in my opinion , it really makes you want to interact with the car making it a more personal experience
NIO is a champ, their vehicles are pure beauty and I like all the colours they come in. $NIO
this is Amazing! I want a NIO, Come to America!
supposedly by 2025
Doubt the current US gov't will allow a Chinese company sell their product, even if it creates jobs in US. This stupid political and economic war is causing everyday people from enjoying the finer things in life.
I like the fact they reviewed the car rather talking about the stock
I live in Dubai and I was planning to buy a new car in 2023 but I will wait for a year or two to buy an electric car. My first option will be NIO if they will have agency here.
NIO is not just an EV company....its a community.
Great video thanks 👍
Just saw BYD seal, it looks amazing.
This is amazing. Can't wait to have it here.
If an auxiliary cord can power the car while charging that would be great. As passenger can still enjoy the infotainment systems, and keep the A/C running.
I loooove the look of this!
That battery recharge is just next genius. Why isn't everyone doing this?
Nio ❤❤ really enjoyed this review!!
Norway already enjoying this
there are hundreds of chinese EV options out there. i personally like:
Hongqi e-hs9/Hongqi concept
Ora good cat/ Ora punk cat
HiPhi x/HiPhi z
ZEEKR 001
NIO es6/es8/et7/ep9
XPENG p5/p7/g3
LI AUTO one
BYD han ev/tang ev
ARCFOX gt
Absolutely brilliant
I just like the Nomi thing... remind me of knight rider kit
one advantage of battery swapping is that the battery can be charged at a relatively slow pace so that the super fast charging wont damage them
you got the point!
love those two 😊
Standardise battery packs, so it doesn't matter what brand of car you've got, and the world would swap over in no time at all
Made in China is not just about making bathroom accessories but also quality and top range technology now
Like the look of this!! And the battery swap seems like an excellent idea.
Its known as BAAS (Battery as a service). There are close to a 1000 NIO battery swap stations in China today with over 7 million battery swaps completed in China to date. So no its not a idea its a reality and in use today.
It's so beautiful nio car and so many advanced tech and quality built, most importantly, as time goes by, the new battery come out and you don't necessary spend any penny to buy another car simply because the new batteries fit current model, that's amazing.
You guys are travelling so much to Norway theese days :p Just move here already :D :D
How will that work with left and right hand drive cars ? the battery swap still no difference ? especially if you travel to Europe from the Uk or vice verser ? Will they sell the cars and have the stations in the UK ?
and this is why i’ve invested in Nio …. 10x better than Tesla , you also have Nio holidays , Nio coffee house , Nio clothing , Nio wine club …..never a better time to invest in Nio …. share price is $16 … some analysts predict it to go to $500 in the next 5yrs
OMG 😱 that is a potential game changer. I can’t get my head around the battery swap though. I’m guessing that you’re effectively leasing a battery because you could be recharged with a battery that’s, let’s say, not as new and efficient but that you’ll never have to worry about a battery in the lifetime of the vehicle 🤔
Love the car though and the tech looks amazing 👍👍
That's correct it's a lease service. The initial price of the car is much lower as you don't buy the battery and you then pay a monthly subscription, price depending on what type of battery you want (range, speed etc).
Leasing or owning the battery are both options.. Leasing the battery lowers the initial cost of the vehicle by $10k USD, & the lease agreement is $150/mo for the 75kwh pack.... All NIO owners are entitled to 6 free swaps per month, & NIO maintains the batteries & have already phased out 2 packs.. the 84kwh & 70kwh packs are already being phased out & the 75, 100, & later this year the 150kwh pack will be available..
Regarding the battery swap, from what understand, you either choose to buy the battery with the car (~$10k extra), or you buy the car without the battery (~$10k less) then subscribe to Nio's battery swap package and pays ~$150/month.
I’m guessing those charging stations trickle charge the battery packs under perfect thermal conditions, elongating the life of them? Brilliant.
Mmmm, if they are only trickle charged, then how long before the battery is ready for refitting in a vehicle?
How many fully charged batteries are on-hand at a station for swapping?
How many batteries can be swapped per hour in a sustained cycle.
More detailed information missing from this video.
@@David-bl1bt its called ‘do your own research?’
@@Analytical_Visionary .... the very reason that I watch these UA-cam channels.... to learn, however many are devoid of information that their viewers seek in favor of egotistical flaunting.
Such as this video, which gave very little pertinent information about the subject matter.
Great video and great in English
That is very cool, be interesting to see how feasible it is on a large scale.
They’re already all over China...
Over 8mil NIO battery swaps!! Is that large scale enough for you? Actually it is over 10m swaps.. Is that large scale enough for you?
You're right, it's very cool! It's going to be exciting to see how this deploys large scale over the rest of the world
@@ThePhosophorus
All over? What even in rural areas? At night?
@@kb9072 At night is no problem, they have lights ✅ & they can put them up at any of their partners Shell gas stations
Can’t wait until it’s available in the UK, would be an ideal second EV buy after our Polestar 2 here🤞👍
In China, a pure electric car can run 500 kilometers, the cheapest one only 20,404.54 - 24,550.60 US dollars. How much money you spend on your Polestar 2 ?
Kindly do you know if the battery is liquid cool because I think it would make it more difficult when changing it automatically without loosing any fluid?
The interior is really elegance!
4:42 indeed! BRAVO 👏👏👏
This is so cool.I’ve ordered one 👍👍👍👍
05:10 JP is like an exiteable puppy sometimes...
Ford, Apple or Windows should have thought of the battery swap. It's cool a "non-player" figured it out.
Was originally Tesla's idea & they tested one station back in 2014 I believe in California in an affluent area.. Tesla dropped it & NIO went with it.. Much better in high density areas like big cities in China where having a charger in their high rise parking stall isn't an option.. Also NIO supports regular charging, fast charging, power truck option, as well as swapping.. Seems that they have all of their bases covered, like no other EV company!!
So my Q is maybe an obvious one but how long before a topped up battery needs replacing and if it comes to the UK where will these recharge centres be located - in every major City?
amazing. Well done.
please please please please please come to the UK ASAP!!!!
Fantastic!
I love the funiest part at 5:09😂
When will Li L9 be available in Europe,particularly Belgium
I can't wait to that gorgeous car comes to Colombia. As a disclaimer I own 8888 shares of NIO.
I really really hope this comes to the US. I'm getting that ES8 the first day it's available.
I spotted one on 680 yesterday. ;-)
Have you seen the ET7?
es7 will be more better！！and i fking need this in Canada
Beautiful car. I can't wait until this comes to the UK, I need that range. Most electric cars have shit range, very shit range.
We need more Chinese cars in the UK. So many great EV's!
Namely NIO and Xpeng. Their little interactive A.I is excellent in Chinese in their home market. Faster response than anything I've seen before. Though when converted to English, it's a bit slower.
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ua-cam.com/video/_nqOseVjxl0/v-deo.html this is probably the fastest reacting A.I I've seen in a car. How real is it in the real world I do not know. This is Xpeng.
It will be banned like Huawei due to national security concern. LOL
It's got Urus / Kona vibes to the look
This is the way
the battery swapping blows my mind
Hope they come to Canada soon.
Great! I’ll take one!
I am a Model X raven owner, and I still want to have a NIO, since NIO has a power swapping station only 2KM away from my home, bare in mind that my home town is NOT a big city in China. we have one tesla supercharge station and two nio power swapping stations in my hometown (2022-July-15), Let's see how many more are gonna be here in this small city a few years later.
Battery swap is really helpful!
Induction charging is the future. Charge plate at home and public charge plates wherever you park. As soon as you park the car will ask charge yes or no and this is the price per kW, if you say yes your billed for the power you use.
This is the future, great job Nio!
Pls come to the UK
I want this car!!!
Thank you 😌😌😌
Brilliant
Solar charging terminals spread throughout places like Australian outbacks which charges batteries during the day...
Very nice
!!!we need this in Canada！！！！
This is amazing but I have So many questions….
1) is there an charging alternative to the battery change where the battery swap isn’t available?
2) how long do the extracted batteries take to charge?
3) what happens if the changed battery is a dud? Ie dead cells
4) what’s the cost per battery swap?
5) what happens if the battery swap installation fails? Mechanical breakdown, misalignment etc
1. Yes, you can still charge the car in a charging station.
2. About 1 hour.
3. You can swap it back, if anything wrong with battery, the station can detect it and notify NIO to take it out. The system is very advanced.
4. You get 4-6 free swaps and you pay electricity cost plus service charge. Ask a NIO fellow for detail, it varies based on where you are.
5. At this moment, there is always an attendant on site to help with questions, in the future you might have to call NIO if anything breakdown.
how about water safety? battery pack that is swappable is not as tightly sealed as non-swappable ones? similar to smartphone that dont allow u to swap its battery but allow u to dip it in the water. does neo have a detailed report on water safety? thanks
Great idea.. but what about standardization and mass adoption of those Nio baterries? So you dont need to have swap stations for every EV brand which decides to go with baterries swaps? That will be a big leap forward. Also swap stations will need to be quite big to serve multiple cars at once, so will need more space and additional space for the empty baterries to store and charge.
Great idea, but still many practical "but"s .
very impressive