Canon imagePROGRAF PRO-1000 "Real World Review": Worth $1300?

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  • Опубліковано 15 вер 2024

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  • @martycrean4022
    @martycrean4022 4 роки тому +96

    Good presentation. Some additional thoughts though: (1) In addition to the ink, don't forget the maintenance tank. (Cost about $15) Have one of these extra on hand, because when it fills up, you're done printing until it's replaced. Even if you have all the ink in the world, this will shut down the printer until it's replaced. (2) Speaking of maintenance, do not ever power this printer down. It only uses about 2W of power - so no big deal. Let it run its maintenance when it needs to so as to prevent your print heads from clogging. Maybe consider putting a small UPS on the printer to maintain power during outages. It will be very expensive to replace that print head. (3) When not using monitor calibration, as far as your prints looking a bit darker than the image on your screen, simply darken your screen until the images on your screen are a bit closer to those printed. When you think about all the $$$ you spent on this printer, your camera and lenses (most likely thousands of dollars total) please spend $300 - $400 on a monitor calibration system. (4) Most every lab, including Adorama, will take your very best 16 bit Tiff and knock it down to an 8 bit JPG prior to printing. So, why should you care? It has to do with the number of colors per channel which translates into the amount of detail or gradation of tones you see in the image (or shadow detail). 8 Bit only results in 256 values of color per channel while 16 Bit results in 65,532 values of color per channel! The main reason you want a printer like this is that it can print in 16 Bit while your lab can't or won't. This equates to having much greater control over your final product and a much higher quality print. While I can't tell by looking at the prints presented in this video, I have doubts that they were printed in 16 Bit as the quality of a 16 Bit print from the Canon would have been night and day compared to the 8 Bit prints from Adorama (or any other lab). Out of the box, this software (at least used to) print in 8 Bit. You would have to deliberately make the change in the software to 16 Bit Color Depth.

    • @fourwheelerjock
      @fourwheelerjock 4 роки тому +2

      Rough estimate on how many 4x6 or 8x10s you can print before you run out of ink? The printer doesn't seem too badly priced but I'm wondering if it uses a ton of ink which is pretty expensive

    • @martycrean4022
      @martycrean4022 4 роки тому +2

      @@fourwheelerjock www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/products/groups/page-yield

    • @fourwheelerjock
      @fourwheelerjock 4 роки тому +1

      @@martycrean4022 Thanks. I appreciate it

    • @gregoryz6545
      @gregoryz6545 Рік тому +1

      Thank you for taking your time to give this information. Very helpful

    • @contacttimbre
      @contacttimbre Рік тому

      I have read to do an occasional print head alignment test page to clear the heads rather than to the maitenance or cleaning cycles that run a lot of ink. and I agree with darkening my screen. I set and calibrate my screen at 50% and then edit/print in a darkened room and the images, prints and SM web presents are far more realistic.

  • @2003shaker
    @2003shaker 8 років тому +18

    I do 10 to 15 weekend art shows every summer and this is EXACTLY the type of review that is extremely helpful when it comes to thinking about bringing my printing in-house. Thanks, Jared!

    • @aabove
      @aabove Рік тому

      Is this still a good buy? Or is there better options now? Cheers

  • @ScreenHackTV
    @ScreenHackTV 8 років тому +94

    I Appreciate how he is able to say negatives about the printing company he is sponsored by. Good job fro. You still have credibility

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  8 років тому +102

      +ScreenHackTV I am not sponsored by either Canon or AdoramaPIX. We work together but that doesn't mean I wont say what I need to say to get the point across.

  • @ai-man212
    @ai-man212 4 роки тому +10

    First of all, printing is fun and it should be part of your photographic experience. Second of all, you can get a lot more creative when you can print instantly on the spot. I personally use the Imageprograf IPF670 which is only 4 color (with a pigment black as 5th), but you get 24" X 58" print capability, cheaper ink and knockoff inks, and you can print on canvas and thick media. At that size the print quality isn't noticeably different. And it's cheaper than the 1000, though about twice the size and probably more than twice the weight. There's something super satisfying about printing that large from your own studio for around $1200 initial layout.

  • @humbertogarcia1767
    @humbertogarcia1767 8 років тому +50

    Brotatochip...
    Holy Crap... the level of production for this video is amazing... This is awesome. It is like you hit another level lately.

  • @Dejan_23Unlimited
    @Dejan_23Unlimited 6 років тому +4

    Love when someone have passion for the job, you can't hide that / Respect.

  • @havocproltd
    @havocproltd 2 роки тому +1

    EGADS! 6 years and this is STILL one of the best evaluations of this printer. The prices haven't changed. Mine is supposed to come tomorrow but know fedecks it'll be tuesday. Thanks, Fro!

  • @gardehusar24
    @gardehusar24 7 років тому +373

    I don't need it, but now I want it... Thank you Jared getting me closer to divorce.

    • @deonellis8577
      @deonellis8577 6 років тому +57

      I saw a very interesting post on Facebook the other day... It said something to the extent of: "Get your kids started on photography at an early age - they'll never have money to do drugs " 😝😝😝

    • @lookpro.rideslow
      @lookpro.rideslow 5 років тому +1

      Just get it over with lol

    • @youbuddha1
      @youbuddha1 5 років тому

      Made me laugh

    • @Invictus2091
      @Invictus2091 4 роки тому +2

      same... I want it...

    • @mr.t5610
      @mr.t5610 4 роки тому +3

      Don't need it either, but definitely want it and probably will buy it. Luckily I'm not married, so no concerns there.

  • @AlmightyUniden
    @AlmightyUniden 8 років тому +21

    One of your best reviews. Almost went out and bought one on the spot.

  • @mistermekanix
    @mistermekanix 8 років тому +7

    This video has inspired me to finally get big prints done

  • @chrisogrady28
    @chrisogrady28 8 років тому +6

    It also prints A2, which is slightly wider than 17x22. It's 16.5x23.5 or something like that. Using custom sizes you can make a 17x24 apparently. You'd need to cut it from a bigger sheet though, which is awkward and expensive.
    I've decided I am going to get the 1000. I've been fighting between the older, smaller (but same ink) Pro-1, an Epson P800, or this. I've had a play and looked at all their outputs, the canons are much more prints imo. The CO seems to really help with pigment inks. I hate not having the Epson roll paper support, but a borderless 17x22 matted and framed does make a good piece I can sell for £1000, at £100 production costs. Making a £900 profit per photograph makes a printer like this very worthwhile.

  • @WillemVerb
    @WillemVerb 8 років тому +4

    Really well filmed and edited!!! :)

  • @caramel7149
    @caramel7149 7 років тому +6

    I'm strongly considering buying this, and one of my biggest concerns was ink cost.
    If I buy this printer, I'll use your link, since you effectively answered my questions through this review!

    • @digitalmarketing6636
      @digitalmarketing6636 4 роки тому

      Hi, I am Bulk ink supplier for Canon Plotters with refillable cartridges. We recommend pigment-based inks for printing on canvas. Free guidance on any topic for Canon ImagePrograf printers WhatsApp +91 9810463010

  • @MarkoNara
    @MarkoNara 8 років тому +16

    Having a printer in Home its one of the joyfully things a photographer can have. I only got a Epson L800 but I can imagine how cool it will be to have a Canon PRO-1000.
    Great Review!

  • @DiegoCuevasVeiga
    @DiegoCuevasVeiga 8 років тому +23

    Dude you are awesome. My best regards to you. Not even Canon can do a review like you do.

  • @bigdhav
    @bigdhav 8 років тому +22

    You said the Matte prints cost more because they consume more ink, but your table shows that the ink consumption and ink cost is lower than the other prints?

    • @robertnees9781
      @robertnees9781 5 років тому +1

      I know this is three years old, but you are correct. Printing on P. Matte uses LESS ink but that paper costs 25% more

  • @joelcleare
    @joelcleare 8 років тому +6

    Canon pro paper vs the canon Platinum Paper also makes a big difference. The Platinum paper is incredible. I have stopped using the pro paper all together. But I understand if your getting free paper to test. Please please try the canon Platinum if you haven't already.

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  8 років тому +9

      +joel cleare I shall be asking them for the better paper.

  • @kanukster
    @kanukster 8 років тому +5

    Ask any mechanic if it's better to rent a tool or own it. The advantages of owning vs. farming a job out, or in this case, a series of prints is a no brainer. By owning a pro printer you control costs and you can also rent your services out to others that need the service.

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  8 років тому +1

      +kanukster good point on the renting it out.

  • @rong4444
    @rong4444 5 років тому +3

    If the Pro1000 couldn't beat Adorama prints, it would be a sad world. I've owned this printer for two years and have never seen it miss a line of print. Regardless of whether its pro quality or not, the prosumer, infrequent printer needs a non-clogging printer. I believe Canon's ink formula along with its heated head satisfies that need.

  • @jimkeener3773
    @jimkeener3773 7 років тому

    I viewed this again, and am even more impressed than I was before. You brought all your skills of communicating, organizing apparently disparate information, accommodating a range of viewers, technical proficiency, and production values. Masterful. Thanks for your clarity.

  • @franktorres7963
    @franktorres7963 7 років тому +5

    Wow! fantastic review. I'm gonna open a photo studio and you have convinced me to get this printer. Your info was very informative. Thanks bud. Cheers. frank from LA

    • @digitalmarketing6636
      @digitalmarketing6636 4 роки тому

      Hi, I am Bulk ink supplier for Canon Plotters with refillable cartridges. We recommend pigment-based inks for printing on canvas. Free guidance on any topic for Canon ImagePrograf printers WhatsApp +91 9810463010

  • @p0ggles
    @p0ggles 8 років тому +1

    This review was awesome. Dude, I want that portrait photo of you! It's so organic and real, love it! It would look good right over my computer.

  • @darylnd
    @darylnd 4 роки тому +6

    "Verse?"
    $300 rebate through end of March, 2020. It may be a must-do at this point.

    • @carlv7227
      @carlv7227 4 роки тому +1

      Just got one from Adorama for $999 with the rebate

  • @lemmor6791civ
    @lemmor6791civ 8 років тому +4

    Now it is missing a direct comparison between the Canon vs Epson printers, between the 13'' and the 17'' on both brands, also dye vs pigments and diferent prices... I am talking about the Epsons P400, P600 and P800 and the Canon Pixmas from the P100 to this new one...

  • @VideoManiacExtreme
    @VideoManiacExtreme 5 років тому +1

    It’s the first time I heard one of your review and I think you explained everything amazing and without take any part such as professional review. Thank for your review from Italy

  • @markypark
    @markypark 7 років тому +1

    I've been trying to make up my mind on whether to go to a Pro-1000 pigment printer from a Pro-100 dye printer. This is not only a well put together balanced review but also provides excellent advice [from start to finish] on whether one should buy a printer with this capability or simply order prints. Since I print strictly for myself as a hobby -- Jared provided the common sense that my practical side was looking for confirmation on. Bottom line: I'd love to get the printer but I'll try 17x22's from a commercial printer first.

  • @oliverdesouza5741
    @oliverdesouza5741 4 роки тому +1

    Great review Jared. I would agree with you that the quality of the paper is also really important. For ultimate glossy output Canon Pro Platinum paper has a massive effect compared to standard glossies and is well worth the investment for your best work.

  • @eshawn97
    @eshawn97 4 роки тому +1

    The best review. Appreciate the quality of the information and the unbiased reporting. Thanks for the great video.

  • @endtimeimages3284
    @endtimeimages3284 4 роки тому +1

    I‘m happy we don‘t HAVE to print, but we CAN if we want. I would always go with the lab option. No need to mess around with paper profiles.

  • @tomallen6073
    @tomallen6073 2 роки тому

    Having maximum control of the process is always a good thing.

  • @brucecooper8559
    @brucecooper8559 5 років тому +1

    Such a great unboxing video! Some reviews say the Canon paper has more problems but I'm thinking they've fixed that by now! Thank you!

  • @myerrandolph1033
    @myerrandolph1033 4 роки тому

    Thank you Jared! Not only are you brilliant but you communicate clearly, transparently and knowledgeably for novices like me.

  • @GoDiMoNsTeR
    @GoDiMoNsTeR 4 роки тому

    ok, I'm a very amateur photographer and when i started binge-watching printer videos today, though I'm not rich by any means, I was soooo glad that the printer "only" costs $1,300 USD. Before watching I asked myself, "alright, this new printing obsession will likely cost me about $3000 USD". Will definitely be getting one of this in the near future. Would love to be able to gift a picture to family or friends.

  • @TheStowAway594
    @TheStowAway594 8 років тому +1

    I've had a lot of problems with ordering prints, even if you calibrate your monitor the prints always end up different. Lucky for me I know someone who bought a $10k printer, and I use that now.

  • @dlee13
    @dlee13 8 років тому +2

    Those prints look amazing, makes me want to buy one of those and start printing my images!

  • @riveraluciano
    @riveraluciano 8 років тому +36

    The biggest question of all is: How many excel sheets can I print?

    • @oslal
      @oslal 8 років тому +1

      Luciano R HAHA

  • @walterlarsen4368
    @walterlarsen4368 6 років тому +2

    Hey Jared! I know this is an older video but still worth its weight in gold! Thank you for the very detailed information, and as always your honest feedback. I just ordered one and will arrive next week.

  • @NorthernLightss
    @NorthernLightss 7 років тому +1

    Thank you Jared, this was the final review before making my mind up. Its on the way and should be here before Christmas. :)

  • @richlovin2173
    @richlovin2173 3 роки тому

    Excellent review - calm, factual, not emotional. And I do also enjoy your dynamic, emotion packed content also.

  • @ElouiseGiardina
    @ElouiseGiardina Рік тому

    This is the best review on a canon 1000 that I’ve seen and it’s 7 years later! Thank you! Also, do you have any updated comments on this printer - newer series - or any other printers for professionals? I am a full time pet photographer and make good money off prints so I’m looking to print at home!

  • @longliveclassicmusic
    @longliveclassicmusic 4 роки тому +16

    $1300 DOESN'T sound like a lot when you consider the first set of cartridges is included. I didn't realize they were…

    • @paulscottfilms
      @paulscottfilms 4 роки тому

      The Canon Pixma series must be the most ludicrously expensive in the world in terms of printing costs. I do not know about the PROGRAF >> I purchased an A3 printer the TS9570 and advise people to avoid this and all other Canon printers for one simple reason. The Ink cartridges have a thimble full of Ink and these colours will run out after a few A4 prints. My analysis was that each print was costing me between $7 and $10. That is insane . You can defeat the costs of the Canon suction machine sucking all your ink out every ten minutes .. DRILL A 4CM HOLE into the top of the cartridge before it is totally depleted and pour in a bulk supply Ink.
      I am now printing two-metre wide prints which before would have cost $60 or more. The inside of the cartridge is like an ink pad, the plastic from the drill hole will not wreck the ability of the cartridge. However, Canon go out of their way to defeat this >> For further about the ludicrous Canon Pixma, and how to defeat the cartridge scam write to me Paul Scott at paulscottfilms@gmail.com Canon is a dog.

    • @paulscottfilms
      @paulscottfilms 4 роки тому

      You're kidding. Wait till you start replacing cartridges every week.

    • @digitalmarketing6636
      @digitalmarketing6636 4 роки тому

      @@paulscottfilms Hi, I am Bulk ink supplier for Canon Plotters with refillable cartridges. We recommend pigment-based inks for printing on canvas. Free guidance on any topic for Canon ImagePrograf printers WhatsApp +91 9810463010

    • @digitalmarketing6636
      @digitalmarketing6636 4 роки тому

      Hi, I am Bulk ink supplier for Canon Plotters with refillable cartridges. We recommend pigment-based inks for printing on canvas. Free guidance on any topic for Canon ImagePrograf printers WhatsApp +91 9810463010

    • @fourwheelerjock
      @fourwheelerjock 4 роки тому

      @@paulscottfilms how many 4x6 or 8x10s can you do before you run out of ink?

  • @tutvid
    @tutvid 8 років тому +7

    Great stuff, Jared!

  • @markmurray920
    @markmurray920 8 років тому +2

    I enjoyed this review. It covered all the necessary information and was very well presented. Thank you for your effort in bringing this to your audience.

  • @1958zed
    @1958zed 3 роки тому +1

    Great review. The one thing you didn't touch on, though, was the durability/longevity of the ink.

    • @silbay
      @silbay Рік тому

      longer than you will live

  • @philipgilligan_art
    @philipgilligan_art 2 роки тому

    Hola Fro funk person……. Asked about this printer on one of your other vids, found this program thanks, you have Sold me one of these rather than the prograf pro 300 :)

  • @RachelKasparek
    @RachelKasparek 8 років тому +87

    Tax return gift to myself lol

    • @onezephyr4515
      @onezephyr4515 5 років тому

      You're welcome. I get to pay an additional 20 of these in April.

    • @jayj1268
      @jayj1268 4 роки тому

      Did you end up buying the printer? lol

  • @GiuseppePipia
    @GiuseppePipia 7 років тому

    I'm beginning to print my work and I'm so stoked about it! This printer is very tempting!!!

  • @dandrechesterfield5411
    @dandrechesterfield5411 4 роки тому +3

    This technology is pretty amazing when you think about it

    • @ManInTheBigHat
      @ManInTheBigHat 4 роки тому +1

      I hadn't thought about it, but now that you mention, it's pretty amazing.

    • @dandrechesterfield5411
      @dandrechesterfield5411 4 роки тому

      ManInTheBigHat yeah I might have been a little stoned when I wrote that but yeah printers in general are so complex it blows my mind

  • @LEXPIX
    @LEXPIX 4 роки тому +1

    Nice, one of your best videos man. Nicely done.

  • @emilywysocki7909
    @emilywysocki7909 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much for making this video. I was on the fence between Epson and Canon and my decision has been made. I learn so much from you and your videos. You are appreciated. Thank you

  • @FrontalBeep
    @FrontalBeep 8 років тому

    I completely agree with your conclusion: if you are not selling the photos, it's not worth it. 2 things: you said that Premium Matte costs more because of the ink, according to your sheet it uses less ink but the paper is more expensive. Also, I might have missed it but how many pics can you (approx) print with the new unused cartridges?

  • @Invictus2091
    @Invictus2091 4 роки тому

    Who in their right mind would give this video a thumbs down? insane. This video was informative and fantastic. Filled in a lot of blanks for me

  • @stuartcolquhoun867
    @stuartcolquhoun867 10 місяців тому

    Great review Jared....you always cover all areas with your reviews...awesome channel 💯💯💯

  • @kumitetoday
    @kumitetoday 8 років тому +11

    $1300,..and I m thinking of buy a $80 Cannon I see on HSN.. somehow I think there will be a difference. :oP

  • @MarcoMoreno5757
    @MarcoMoreno5757 5 років тому +1

    Well, after watching this excellent video and made my math cost vs benefit having this printer at home is not a good business decision to buy it. Thanks for the information.

  • @TheRocketdrone
    @TheRocketdrone 8 років тому

    I would love to have one of these but for what I would use it for my pro-100 works perfectly. It also better suits my budget by only costing me $100 for a full set of inks. Love the review.

  • @romiemiller2485
    @romiemiller2485 4 роки тому +1

    I size my images slightly smaller than the paper size, 7.98x0.98, for an 8x10", for example, for two reasons: 1) It gives the framer room for matting or framing that won't cut into the image area; (2) Full-bleed prints splatter a little ink off the edge of the paper. That means more cleaning is needed, and I'm basically lazy.

  • @aaronpedersen4886
    @aaronpedersen4886 7 років тому +14

    If the printer isn't used for a period of time, is there a risk of the ink drying, or going bad, in the printer?

    • @i35photo
      @i35photo 5 років тому

      Yes, but I have this printer and I can tell from my experience.... I've had it off for very long periods of time and not ONCE has it clogged on me... If this was my old Epson Printer its clog city... This is by far the best printer I've ever used in terms of print quality and lack of clogging..

    • @photog1529
      @photog1529 5 років тому

      That would be my concern. I had an Epson 4900 that had to sit for a few months due to circumstances beyond my control. The head clogged up, couldn't be fixed, and a replacement head would have cost $1300. The printer is now in a landfill somewhere. Is the Canon print head serviceable, but at a moderate cost?

    • @i35photo
      @i35photo 5 років тому

      Photog 1 The print head is fully user replaceable! I’m not sure how much a new print head costs... Probably cheaper than $1300...

    • @jamesshimp640
      @jamesshimp640 5 років тому +1

      Not sure on the 1000, but the larger roll printers have smart print heads and aeration systems that keep the printhead lubricated and ink tanks mixed and ready through automated maintenance cycles.
      The printhead is also customer replaceable.
      Larger canon roll printers have hot swappable ink tanks (change ink while printing). Great for big print jobs!

    • @TrapBoiFuse561
      @TrapBoiFuse561 4 роки тому

      KO how long looking to buy one

  • @file1man
    @file1man 4 роки тому +1

    is $900 at B&H thru march 31, 2020 after rebates

  • @raresolid
    @raresolid 8 років тому +1

    Thanks man! Huge fan of your videos, and this is exactly what I was looking for! Thanks for taking the time putting this together.

  • @johnd7564
    @johnd7564 3 роки тому +1

    I really appreciate Jared's videos, but in this one I kept waiting for the word "archival". What do we know about the longevity of prints created by this printer?

  • @TheFistandSecond
    @TheFistandSecond 4 роки тому +3

    0:57 I'm Glad You mentioned that! I Always thougt it was a fake Golf GTI...

  • @hamstrungharry259
    @hamstrungharry259 3 роки тому

    Im glad I got a calibrated professional monitor to tell the difference between the LAB and Canon prints.

  • @kamerakasino6750
    @kamerakasino6750 7 років тому

    Wow. Great review. I hope you come back and do a long term review on this product. I'm curious what issues arise from infrequent use or constant use.

  • @kimberlynorton
    @kimberlynorton 6 років тому

    I can order 16x20 prints from Costco for 6.99; and 20x30 prints from Costco for 9.99. Costco prints on Fuji paper plus I cannot decide not to let them do color correction and use the Costco profiles (I have never used the profiles before). If I want the images mailed then the shipping/handling is 3.99 +.49 for each additional print. But, I think the images in the Costco store look better than the ones through mail order.

  • @timjohnson3877
    @timjohnson3877 Рік тому

    Very, very thorough. I wish more reviews were this comprehensive. Thanks!

  • @patrickdarryl8498
    @patrickdarryl8498 7 років тому +3

    who knew anyone could make a real world review for a printer

  • @CalumetVideo
    @CalumetVideo 3 роки тому

    Great summary on home printing vs. lab. If someone is not making money to justify the printer, it’s like keeping an expensive car fueled. I always look at the cost of ink.

  • @RobertKarlBerta
    @RobertKarlBerta Рік тому +1

    I wore out an Epson 3800 and 3880....the last one died in the middle of the pandemic ans turns out it was next to impossible to get a new replacment of that or the Canon capable of this size print until recently so fiinally picked up a new Pro 1000 about 3 months ago. It defintely is a major step up in build quality and features over the Epson. In particlar being able to replace the print head could have etended the life of my Epsons which can't have their heads replaced so become door stops.
    There have haave been many updates to this printer in the years since this review was made. One is that it can no print 17" x 47" long panaramas if you like alhtough still not on roll paper. I never found a need for roll paper as my prints have many different sizes...many none standard so I either use boxed paper or cut from roll paper and flatten it before use by pressing it under weights. No problems at all....just don't try to feed heavier paper through that has a good curl to it. I head all the buzz about heavy ink use. I found that to not be true. What wasts ink is turning the machine off each time you are finished for the day. At the next start up it purges ink. There is a set option to not do the auto off and I just leave the printer on all the time. To prevent clogging other users and I found that all you have to do is print a tiny print every 3-5 days....just a simple 4"x6" or even a 1" square photo on that size paper keeps the heads clog free. To prevent getting turned off during a power outage...and to protect it and other electronics, I have a ...uninteruptible power wsupply....won't run the printer in an outage but it will keep it turned on.
    Next hint is do NOT replace the ink tanks when the display says the ink is low.....you will be able to print a LOT more prints before it finally stops due to out of ink. I have an accurage gram scale and weighed a full cartidge and than at various points of use. I estimate the low ink warning comes on when you still have about 20% of the ink left.
    I mentioned that Canon made several ugrades to the printer. As of 1-2023 and with the latest firmware it will print the 17"x47" prints....but other changes included a greatly improved ink tank ltaching mechanism. You can easily remove a tank at any point and reinsert if and it will continue up just as before....it will still show the remaining ink level until you actually replace with a full tank when it will than show the full amount. As I mentioned I use a gram scale to weight the tanks so occasionally I will pull a low tank and weight it to keep track what the actual remaining ink is. Also....some used to wait until one tank needed replacing and than at that point replace all of the other tanks that show low warning. That will waste ink. Just replace each tank as it is used up. I found that removing and replacing a tank does not trigger a purge mode for all tanks. What I do is make a print than pull out the tank I want to weigh or replace. On reinsertion it is exactly in operation as before. Not having an older version of the printer I can't verify this but suspect that Canon may have chanced the logic setup for tank replacments....perhaps due to people giving a bad review due to perceived high ink useage. Also when new the machine will fill the printing tubes so a full set of new cartidges after that first prime will already be down to about 4% remaining ink.....but the next cartidges will fill up and show the max fill on the tank gauge.
    I am a professional photographer and the real reason for having my own printer is to have control on the quality of the print as well as the ability to print to any size...or in my case odd sizes.
    The bottom line....would this be a good printer for a hobbiest....all depends on the number of prints and your own "fussiness"....but in many cases it would be overkill for many people.
    I do think that the prints are spectacular. I only use Canon ink but there are some third party suppliers that can cut the cost of ink down about 35%. I have heard that the best are fine but if you are like me and paid for an extended service contract...you don't want to risk that with third party supplies. Some asked about the life of a print from this printer. Of course it depends on storage/display conditions but I have not seen any issues with early fading, etc on my 30 year old prints from my old Epson Pros and suspect that the Canon would at least be equal in that area. As I recall the Epsons inks were tested through a lab and they estimated at least 125 year life under normal storage conditions. By than they will have developed a future technolgy that will be even more permanent I am sure. Keep the original digital files and you can always reprint an image.....I often go through and print my old color negatives and tranparencies from back as far as 53 uyears ago and even though I have them stored in ideal conditions...they are not perfect so wish we had digital technolgy back than so I would still have flawles originals.

    • @Alexonfire1
      @Alexonfire1 Рік тому

      Fantastic comment. Thank you for taking the time to write that Robert.

    • @gerhardbotha7336
      @gerhardbotha7336 Місяць тому

      then…. then!

  • @Moriningland
    @Moriningland 9 місяців тому

    For me, it’s printer all the way over a lab. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve gotten prints back from the lab that just don’t look good even though I’m following all the right steps.
    Then I buy a printer and BOOM I’m finally able to print images that close to my monitor

  • @Rymzor
    @Rymzor 8 років тому +2

    you should do a print giveaway, or put a sticker on the wheel of fro and when you land on it you get to choose a print.

  • @snackertwo
    @snackertwo 8 років тому

    Thank you...once a week printing to keep my printer in tip top shape I am using Epson XP-630 and still learning. Make cards and print family photos. Really enjoyed your video 👍🏼✌🏼️

  • @KevGoesRiding
    @KevGoesRiding 5 років тому +2

    Best review ever. Only question I wonder is: does the ink have an expiry date, requiring cartridges to be replaced even though theres ink in them?

  • @RayEccleston
    @RayEccleston 8 років тому +6

    Can you do a comparison with the Epson P800?

  • @CJBradley
    @CJBradley Рік тому

    I already own the Pro 200 and it's a great and thinking of buying this one. Here in the UK I can get one for £1000.00 but the ink sets are kind of expensive.

  • @GaryJimenez
    @GaryJimenez 8 років тому +3

    I like the balance in your review Jared, you put options out there in this review. Your Real World Reviews are one of my favorite segments on your channel. Keep up the great work and I look forward to seeing what the Fro Factory will push out #frofactoryshirts

  • @bsmith7671
    @bsmith7671 8 років тому +1

    Great review, but I wonder if the printhead has to be replaced after so many uses. If so that could also be considered an expense not mentioned in the cost of prints.

  • @johngray7006
    @johngray7006 8 років тому +1

    great video!
    Thanks for this information, been looking for a top notch printer,for photography.

  • @eltinjones4542
    @eltinjones4542 3 роки тому

    I just came across this now, all be it five years later.
    I'm toying with replacing my spent printer and this is one of the most informative reviews that I've seen.
    I reckon that it could be applied to other high end models As well?
    I think as an amateur I'll stick with the 'bog standered' A4 with a scanner and use a lab for the larger prints. Thanks for helping me decide 👍

  • @victorobregon2323
    @victorobregon2323 3 роки тому

    Nice work, I like the “straight to the point “ comments, very useful information.

  • @cesarebonazza
    @cesarebonazza 2 роки тому

    I think this review is excellent, I stop printing in 2011 I had Epson 9600 running with colorbyte and HP 130 did printing canvas on Epson and luster on HP and did quite well for my sales. I stop doing family portraits. I have now the need to print again for my client in a more artistic presentation hopefully this printer can provide me the quality I’m looking for. I find that Apple monitor are not as good as some other brand like Eizo , Asus at high end, so to see that you we’re getting good print even with out calibration that was great. I think the convenience is the most important aspect. Now In a very light note why you don’t support your local Barber 💈?
    After all this year you need to develop a more sophisticated look 👀 for your new clients. 😊

  • @MattWeddis
    @MattWeddis 7 років тому +2

    Another great review. Although it's off on a bit of a tangent, it would be great to see a tutorial on mounting photos printed at home. I might just be an idiot but I can never get it right.

  • @davebro73
    @davebro73 4 роки тому

    WONDERFUL review, but want to point one things out --> What you say about cost of print being more for matte paper makes sense but it's not what the spreadsheet says. Spreadsheet says that the paper itself is $1 more per sheet AND actually it shows that the matte paper used slightly LESS ink.

  • @iam_jamietheartist
    @iam_jamietheartist 4 роки тому

    I just ordered one then right after, I went to Facebook and saw an ad from where I bought it... for another canon printer. It was the Canon pro TA-20 and now I'm having buyers remorse because that one was less expensive and can print 24x36 in posters and prints. And it takes rolls of paper. #fml I LOVE the great qualities of the pro 1000 I've learned about, but that was my only complaint. The pro-1000 doesn't print as large as I would prefer and doesn't take rolled paper for even larger options.

    • @digitalmarketing6636
      @digitalmarketing6636 4 роки тому

      Hi, I am Bulk ink supplier for Canon Plotters with refillable cartridges. We recommend pigment-based inks for printing on canvas. Free guidance on any topic for Canon ImagePrograf printers WhatsApp +91 9810463010

  • @shanman1168
    @shanman1168 8 років тому +1

    Wow... impressive review. Thanks Jared.

  • @MattCProductions
    @MattCProductions 4 роки тому +1

    So id be curious for you to compare the Canon Pixma 100 vs Lab photos. That would be much more comparable seeing that the printer is significantly less.

  • @caballeroPL
    @caballeroPL 8 років тому

    Great video Jared. If only I could afford that printer. Or maybe you could do a video like a buying guide for budget photo printers?

  • @javadroid101
    @javadroid101 8 років тому

    If you haven't already then you should definitely try ProDpi for any lab prints. There interface isn't as good but their print quality makes AdoramaPix look like Snapfish.

  • @trevorpinnocky
    @trevorpinnocky 8 років тому +19

    $60 * 12 = $720 for ink each time. Whoa. One of the important things to known about Canon printers is that one empty cartridge with stop all printing. You can't print with an empty cartridge.
    And when you replace that cartridge it's going to prime all of them meaning you'll lose some ink. At $720 a pop that could hurt a lot.
    My Canon Pixma Pro 9500 Mk. II does everything I could possibly want. Think I'll be sticking with that. :)

    • @LiaraDives
      @LiaraDives 7 років тому +2

      trevorpinnocky I owned the 9500 II as well and it does the same thing when you switch just one ink. it's a bit annoying but yeah.

    • @kozz1984
      @kozz1984 7 років тому +3

      Precision colors is working on an Ink refill kit that I assume is going to slash the price of refills to pennies on the dollar.

    • @Tokendog08
      @Tokendog08 6 років тому +3

      I'm pretty that applies to all things that rely on a resource to operate...if the fuel (gas or electric) in your car runs out, it doesn't keep running, does it?

    • @greatpix
      @greatpix 5 років тому

      With the 9000 and 9500, if you don't print regularly, say a month or so between print sessions, the unit has to go through a cleaning, repriming session which wastes even more ink. I've had a love/hate relationship with Canon printers. I love the slightly warmish output of the Canon printers, especially with the files from my Nikon cameras (which tended in the past to output images on the cool side). I hate the idiosyncrasies, like the priming/cleaning cycles, the dreaded printhead errors (and cost for a new head) for often no discernible reason.

  • @MikeMessiah
    @MikeMessiah 4 роки тому

    Just get Epson ET-7750 Wide Format All-in-One
    (approx $600). Does everything, prints studio levels photos, and the cost per page for A4 color photo print is around 1.2 cents !!!

  • @paristo
    @paristo 8 років тому

    Having good inkjet at home/studio is crucial for professional photographers in many areas, like mentioned nude photography but then there are all family photographs, corporate, etc where you need to have 1) total privacy via NDA (usually means you use new card just for that job and then destroy the card after printing, unless selling it for much higher extra with the prints) 2) speed and quality control and 3) simply do it cheaper.
    But these inkjet prints doesn't have a same long lasting period as the chemically processed where laser (leds) are used to expose paper and then chemically process it, but we are talking about ten years or two periods with these inkjet ones anyways.
    But you can always print in future a new ones, with better printers.
    But if someone doesn't sell prints, or can pick up from "next street" and get close priced prints made in store with good lab technician etc. I don't see reason to buy one (if not those privacy etc) to home/studio.
    oh, nicely done video, but I would recommend to have a little more silent cuts between the different parts or phrases as now it was all about one long monology without breathing ;-)
    And liked how multiple times it was weighted that having prints further (actually further than 50-60cm) you can't see such differences in sharpness but in colors mainly, or especially when not having prints side by side you don't see difference in colors.
    but that white turned to greyish in Adorama isn't good sign. that shouldn't happen!
    as you should be able to add white passepartout and not have a problems with paper own framing being darker/different.

  • @liricalartist
    @liricalartist 8 років тому

    Hello, guys!
    Something very important for me:
    How long those prints can last?
    Fujifilm silver process = 200 years in a album, 150 years on the wall.
    What about the inc jet?
    What if the prints are all yellow after 6-7 years?

  • @LiaraDives
    @LiaraDives 7 років тому +10

    +Jared Polin Okay I have seen this video more then 5 times, what I still don't understand is that Matte paper is, as Jared says and I was taught in school, absorbs more ink then Glossy or Luster. Yet in the price and ink consumption diagram the matter used less ink in both $ and ml. Can someone explain this to me?

    • @digitalmarketing6636
      @digitalmarketing6636 4 роки тому

      Hi, I am Bulk ink supplier for Canon Plotters with refillable cartridges. We recommend pigment-based inks for printing on canvas. Free guidance on any topic for Canon ImagePrograf printers WhatsApp +91 9810463010

  • @romiemiller2485
    @romiemiller2485 4 роки тому +1

    I use Canson and Hahnemuehle for almost everything.

  • @stanjbow
    @stanjbow 8 років тому +9

    Most professional photographers will all tell you photography is all about the print. Hence having as much control as possible in printing is essential. One may be able to get good prints from Adoramapix or other online print houses but you just will not have the control over the final print that you can have if you make your own prints. However if you are not really that involved with photography, don't make prints all that much, don't want to, then it may be best to get it done by others. I do giclee printing for many artists and others because they know I can make better prints than they can, even the ones who own their own printers, because I do printing all the time and know how to optimize an image and get what my client really wants. Printing is an art form just like taking a good photograph is an art form.

    • @busancun
      @busancun 5 років тому

      Nope, actually, a good photo depends on post-edition.

    • @jamesshimp640
      @jamesshimp640 5 років тому

      I’m a Canon/Oce Wide Format, Konica, Xerox, and Kyocera Dealer. Canon pro-1000-6000 are beautiful photo printers. Amazing dot control without a fiery or creo rip and fast click to print times.
      For not a whole lot more $$ you can get a Pro-2000, pro-4000S (8color), or pro-4000 (12 color) and take advantage of lower per ml ink cost, and lower cost roll media, including clings and “fatheads”, while still running 8” up to 36” (60” on the pro6000 & 6000s) wide heavy mattes and linens.

  • @f2f.photography
    @f2f.photography 6 років тому

    Good review Colin K. Excellent job.

  • @brianstalter6569
    @brianstalter6569 8 років тому

    Really good video. I haven't watched much of your content for a while, but this product (and review) was quite helpful. Thanks!

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  8 років тому

      +Brian Stalter Photography you've missed a lot of great stuff similar to this.

  • @OPGHAHA
    @OPGHAHA 4 роки тому +6

    Is it still worth it in 2019? Am considering the 6000 model

    • @crazymangoman
      @crazymangoman 3 роки тому

      The 6000 is identical to the 1000, just wider and can print from a roll. If you want to print flawlessly on any type of media, get one.

  • @Innerlightuk
    @Innerlightuk 8 років тому

    On Facebook I guessed $5 wasn't to far away the prints do look good, great review.

  • @MattisProbably
    @MattisProbably 8 років тому +1

    This printer is really only worth it if you sell your prints or if you just happen to have this kind of money lying around. But it IS amazing by the looks of it! :)
    60 bucks for one cartridge though? And it takes 12? That's crazy.
    Personally, I do print my shots at home as well, but I do it with a much cheaper and smaller printer. I own a Canon Pixma IX6850 which I got for 180€ on Amazon. It prints in A3 (11.7 x 16.5 in) and A3+ and for what I do with it the quality is nice. Prints look sharp and vibrant. They aren't very big, but I just solve that problem by putting a couple of prints next to each other :)
    The prices for the ink are pretty mental as well in relation to the price of the printer alone, but honestly? I just buy the ink from a different German company. I'm sure a pro or someone with years long printing experiences could tell the difference, but I can't. What I *am* seeing is that the ink that I buy costs 20 bucks for 4 full sets of cartridges which last me a year while a single set of cartridges from Canon costs 40 bucks.
    I've made the experience that the paper is a LOT more important. With cheap paper I got crap results even with the Canon ink, but with the Canon paper everything looks nice as long as I don't buy the cheapest, crappiest ink I can find. The ink also didn't stick to the cheap paper...

    • @drbubble33
      @drbubble33 8 років тому

      The ink cost is not hat crazy. This printer uses 83ml tanks which last roughly 200-250 17x22's prints. Take into the $6 price difference from Adorama on prints and you've matched the cost of buying the printer. If you sell prints those same prints for just $20, you've got an extra $2000 in your pocket (printer and spare set of ink cartridges already paid for).

    • @froknowsphoto
      @froknowsphoto  8 років тому +1

      +Mathias It's all about your use. Like I said, if you have a use for it and you're selling your prints the price of ink doesn't matter. As shown by the cost per print I don't really look at how many I can make per cartridge. Remember it comes with a full set to start so you're not buying anything extra off the rip. Even if you sold 13 prints at $100 each you're doing really well.

    • @MattisProbably
      @MattisProbably 8 років тому

      Jared Polin Oh absolutely! I just make a few prints here and there and still order big ones. A printer like this would be complete overkill for me.
      Considering how much a full set of cartridges costs $1300 is not a bad deal in my opinion. But I would only consider it if I was selling my prints. Then it would pay for itself and the quality is more than good enough as well.