YAMAHA'S BEST HIFI SYSTEM
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- The Yamaha Stereo Flagship 5000 HiFi System may have been the best full component hifi system I ever heard, and it totally ruined my ears!
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Yamaha is criminally underrated hifi company. The reson you don't see them much on social media is because they don't fund so called "influencers/reviewers". They never did and likely never will. I have tons of Yamaha stuff in my home, from the little A-S501 to the big boss A-S2200 and many amps and CD players in between. I simply love their genuine and natural approach to the sound, they build their gear to sound the way they want the music to sound to the listener unlike many others that build amps and players for the sake of componentry and gear.
I have a lot of Yamaha audio equipment. They are highly underrated. And not only that, their new gear is largely as great as their vintage stuff.
Finally, a video on the 5000 series..!!! (The full lineup) I sincerely think that an enormous amount of critics and reviewers have forgotten about the impressive Yamaha. Thank you very much great video..!!!
I know it's been missing! Hopefully we were able to show a good amount of it!
What makes Yamaha great is that as a multifaceted company the different divisions share scientific findings with each other to a company wide benefit.
I disagree. It makes it hard to take them seriously and the market proves it with huge discounts.
I have got these black monsters NS-5000 at home with Yamaha A-S3000 amplifier and sound is absolutely incredible. Thanks for this video :)
Wow, this stuff looks of absolute world-class quality. So refreshing to see.
That power amp and pre amp make it seem like I’m a kid in a hifi store in the late 70s.
"Motorcycle exhaust". No other audio company will use these words in a speaker cabinet description. EVER.
2 stroke expansion chambers are tuned to the motor so the back pressure improves the power output. Not a lot of people know that, especially people interested in hi-fi!
I have always loved Yamaha's attention to detail! Most impressed with the explanation of what the different components are doing!
They have great attendance to detail
I love my NS-1000 M s. Matched up with my vintage CA 2010 integrated amp Class A switchable ..the 70s was a really great time for Yamaha ..looks like the 20s are a return.
The M5000 amplifier is beautifully engineered (just look at the specs) and beautiful to look at.
Always wondered if the high end yamaha stufff was worth the price. It all
Certainly looks the part. Cool stuff
@@jjinglenuts nice.. for now i will have to take your word for it… one day maybe…
I’m such a big fan of Yamaha sound!
I have 3 vintage and 6 new receiver/ integrated amps !
Awesome video!
Wow this is truly amazing, even though I know it won’t sound like the real thing at all trough video I wish we could hear it... Makes me proud as we have a Yamaha system from 1994 with 2 tower speakers that I grew up with!:) I see they use the same beautiful piano black finish on the speakers after all these years too.. Lol
This is an ultimate system. I have the NS1000M and PC2002 amp from 80s and they are incredible.
I would like to see theirs comparison! I heard some people told 1000m is clearer
Yamaha is highly underrated. A company which makes world class musical instruments, will naturally make good HiFi equipment.
The 5000 series is a aspirational jam system for sure.
I bought Yamaha 3000 speakers with an r-n2000a amp. Perfect. 75% of what the 5000 series is imo.
I have always been a Yamaha fan and have had several of their items over the years… just had my CX A5100 controller serviced after my cat threw up into it… OUCH! They had it fixed and back to me in 8 days… (oh and 900 dollars)… love that controller! Also have a Yamaha amp and DVD player… both 20 years old and still going strong! And 2 of their early subwoofer which are not about 35 years old and still rocking! Someday I hope to hear their top tier speakers (must admit I was not a fan of their mid tier offerings… just sounded too dry to me but they LOOK fantastic)…
Sounds like you got a good head on your shoulders
For context the process of producing the beryllium drivers was potentially toxic, not the completed drivers themselves unless you did something like sand them into a fine powder.
still have my Yamaha PF-800 turntable and AX-592 intergrated amp (orginal owner) with KEF C15+C200SW speaker set up but would love to hear the Flagship in person. have always loved Yamaha stereo equipment enough that I also have a YSP4000 sound projector sound bar
I have two pairs of NS-1000M still used today. Excellent sound.
Weird, weird bass though. It's all there, but it's somehow not. Odd. You won't ever hear a drum kit being attacked like you do with those. Quite literally awesome.
@@LonesomeTwin must be your room....bass is tight and punchy on Ns1000M......pair it with Rel T7x ;). Also have the NS2000.....better overall, but more weighty bass, less agile compared to NS1000M.
I use a Yamaha RX-A2050 and a pair of NS-300 in my extra bedroom cave, sounds plenty good enough :)
That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing
Dig the beard. Cool runnings
The value of that all in one audio component system it is designed to make all the components work together in harmony. Unlike mixing and matching different audio components from different manufacturers.
Mixing seperates doesn't necessarily mean the equipment won't work harmoniously together.
The all new Yamaha YH-5000SE Headphones will blow your mind too ! 😇😍
I just picked up a pair of NS -333s on eBay for £25 an absolute bargain..I love the NS series they sound amazing!!!!
Man, I've seen this stuff advertised in Music Direct for a few years ,but no one has reviewed them. To see them all reviewed is super cool.
Now I really need to win the lottery.
Have bought a 2nd hand A-S2100 Amp for really less money. This is a monster of an amplifier and sounds amazing on my DXT-Speakers.
I got a 2nd hand A-S1100 amp. The things it does in the mids and highs are eye-opening.
Yamaha for great music gear, reliable and built very well...
We have the NS-5000 speakers. 26hz-40khz from same material drivers is a major technology advance when you think about it. The crossover board is an an engineer's carte blanche. The sound is addictively balanced. Classical and jazz are especially liquid. They benefit from a more powerful amp than the one in the set. They are expensive at $15K but thousands cheaper than luxury brands using carbon fiber or aircraft grade aluminum instead of Yamaha's piano gloss birch plywood.
Love Yamaha stuff. I even have Yamaha drums.
“So we saw one of those in one of our recent videos and I don’t see those too much but they’re like some of the most famous vintage speakers of all time and what’s interesting is you think these newer the NS-5000’s are like the same size the NS-5000’s are so big like I don’t think the video does it justice of how massive these speakers really are”
So from that paragraph from the video, you would expect the new NS-5000’s to be much bigger than the old NS-1000m but that’s just not the case the NS-5000 are basically exactly the same volume with the NS-5000 been 0.34% larger. 0.1038 m3 vs 0.1034 m3 and 4kg lighter
NS-5000 w395 x h690 x d381 35kg
NS-1000m w395 x h710 x d369 39kg
yep i have a yamaha as 1100 its my forever amp fer sure
Thank goodness.......................
...it wasn't 2 Stand Mounts & Sub. 🔈🔉🔊
Have always known Yamaha was a great company. Recently replaced an old Yamaha AV receiver with some Parasound stuff and honestly the Yamaha sounded better.
Yamaha make top quality guitar gear under the Line 6 brand they bought out! The Helix and the Amps are good
I want to have a listening session to see if the price is justified, but I'm highly doubtful
Excellent, love to hear it.
I just bought a vintage Yamaha GE30 EQ for $120. I cant wait to get it. Its my 1st yamaha component to date. Its from the late 80s i believe, but looks new. Its very pretty. It has a subsonic filter too, thats a cool feature as ill be adding a turntable soon. I hope hifi makes a comeback because sound reproduction sucks now days for the most part, people settled for their phones and got rid of hifi systems. Its sad. I keep buying it all up. I have a nice vintage setup now and got it all for a great price. Ill probably never stop making my setup better and better. My favorite speakers are and will always be the Cerwin Vega D-9. Sorry Yamaha. Keep your overpriced speakers.
The 10000 system from 1987 that no one remembers is far more impressive.
More impressive looking, for sure.
one of the very few companies i believe in. they have been making grand pianos, trumpets, flutes etc etc for 100 years ... motorbikes... they know
The all new Wharfedale Dovedale speakers just won one of the best of show awards at Axpona 2023 Show from Audio Bacon beating out the Yamaha NS-5000's !!
Good thing that's one of our upcoming videos haha
Also, I was a HUGE fan of them. You should order a pair from us, you will love them.
@@LennyFlorentine HaHa ...
Used to have a ns-1000x in my studio great solid product.
Even a humble pair of NX-E100 sound better than most speakers in the same class. They are just really good at making things that work well and sound fantastic.
I like touching equipment and turning knobs too!
Got to thats why they are there!
We need direct comparison with 1000m!
If I ever have $50,000 lying around...
“ur the turntable this was designed as a balanced signal path all the way through so from the tip of the stylus in the groove you got left and right so they’re kind of all mixed together and the stylus separates into left and right plus and minus that goes to XLR balance cables they never touch ground anywhere through this whole system goes into the preamp and you talk about the moving coil preamp ur the EQ that’s in there and it’s all discrete and it’s a huge (sup)port it’s sophisticated then then it goes through all the tone controls which are all balanced then it goes XLR out into the power amp which is a balance a floating and balanced power amplifier nothing’s ground still then it goes out the speakers terminals to the speakers so the whole signal from your stylus to your speaker terminal is floating and what that does for us if we do it right and I think we have there’s no restriction on the sound the audio has room to breathe you’ll hear it in the dynamics of what we play play for here when there’s something has to happen it happens because there’s nothing holding it back you know theirs is it’s just floating waiting to do something, the speakers are made to do stuff those the preamp is made to do stuff the amp is made to do to do you know give it give you whatever you want”
Now when I clicked on the video I was not searching for audio babble snake oil sales man but man this hole section, in fact almost everything he says about these products does not feal me with hope… and any one spending 50k on this setup is never going to tern around and be like “yer maybe this was a bit more hyped up than what gets delivered”
and what’s with the host? He is not giving us any interesting information he just keeps commenting on how big things are “look at the size of that “ like that has any bearing on how well produced these items are. “I don’t think the video does it justice of how massive these speakers really are” Its your video, you made it, why did you not just show us how massive these really are? Not even a comedy banana next to it. and I still love how much the sales guy had to make sure when compering the NS-1000’s drivers with the new ones not to say the new ones are better that’s really kind of funny. “What we found with the xylon once it’s formed, it has very similar features as the beryllium” yer not the same, not better, just similar, Its similar in that it creates sound waves, comedy gold.
So how i am now supposed to be able to sleep ..Or to live now
🤷🏻🤷🏻🤣
I like Yamaha audio. I have an older surround receiver and it is pretty decent. The new surround receivers are built well but ugly. Not sure what went wrong there.
If you think 2 feet tall speakers are massive, you need to see an optometrist soon.
❤my yamaha RXV-1050 with Klipsch kg4 speakers, 30 years old.
By the way, i just took delivery of my new Emotiva T3 towers yesterday. Still breaking in. First impressions are great. Klipsch rf7 3s went down to the home theater. So these are taking over my stereo system. Big shoes to fill.
Hey just wanted some feedback. Did the t3+ sound better than the rf7. Can demo equipments where I live and cannot decide between the polk r700 or the emotiva t3+. Thanks again
@@ronniehosein7384 honestly there is some serious magic in those rf73s. I wont say the t3s are better. I cant. Im currently feeding the T3s 250 watts at 4 ohm. I could give them more watts and they would love it. They are needy. But its a totally different animal than the klipsch. I feel if i gave them 400-500 watts, they might outclass the Klipsch. But for 1/2 the price of the rf7s??? The T3s are pretty amazing for the price point. Keep in kind im still breaking them in. Maybe 20 hours of break in time so far… they sound better after a few hours for sure
@@ronniehosein7384 bottom line, if you are going with the T3s, feed them some serious juice. I was also considering the Polk reserve r700s. Ive heard those are good in even imperfect rooms. Down firing bass port sounds promising. Good luck w your decision!!!
@@ronniehosein7384 the only negative thing i will say about the emotivas is the delivery. I took off a day of work when they stated proposed delivery time… it didnt come that day, and i had to take off another day of work…. That sucked. The t3s come double boxed and are protected well. But there was still a huge gouge in one of the boxes. Speaker wasnt damaged, but i was worried…
How do the older ones hold up? I have a pair from the 70s in storage
Well the sales guy was very strategic on his talking points when comparing them to the old ones, “What we found with the xylon once it’s formed, it has very similar features as the beryllium” you know 100% as a sales guy he wanted to say “yer the new ones are better” but they will not be allowed to say that because they know its not true.
Could a video have been more disappointing than this??? No. As you said, you don’t see many if any videos on Yamaha’s flagship line…and what did you give us…things we could have read about on Yamahas website but absolutely no reference at all as to how good or bad those 15,000 dollar speakers sounded…which I was waiting for with baited breath!! I own a AS801 which I love driving my KLH Kendalls! But I used to own a pair of Yamaha’s insanely good NS-555 3-Way Towers. They were a steal at less than 600 for a pair. You need to do a follow video actually reviewing what you “heard” with much less goofing around!
Look who is goofing around as well, referring to 3 feet tall speakers as towers.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt Not sure what you are referring your comment to Carlos?! The NS-555 are indeed classified TECHNICALLY, as Tower Floor-standing Loudspeakers. The have four drivers in a line array, supported by their own outrigger feet. And they stand more than 3 feet tall. Soooo, maybe you need to either delete your comment or amend it so you won’t sound so ignorant to other Audiophiles.
Yamaha are a music instrument company foremost. They know how to reproduce sound perfectly
Part 2 ?
The surviving Japanese audio manufacturers only occasionally launch hi-end products ----- Yamaha, Sony, Denon. Only rare manufacturers like Accuphase produce hi end only gears continuously.
As I said on another channel, 5000 series from Yamaha is just pure HiFi Art.
From 1 to 10 How close does a as2200 come to the preamp and amp 5000 series in sound quality?
I'd have to agree with @jjinglenuts
You can have similar vintage system 8k maximum
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Good Video!!!!
Yamaha.... ! And I have 15 videos to prove it to......!
I sat in same room at apoxna, i wasnt impressed but im blaming the room
That cone cloth was stolen from John Wicks tailor
Sorry to get off Subject but what is the piece of Equipment on the Shelf behind you to your Right with the CRT display?
Appreciate it! Here is a close up...
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@Just Audio Now that is "Just Cool" that's all there is to it! Thanks!
I have always used Yamaha starting with my first CR 2020 to my current AS 701 and 2200. I , however, have never cared for their speakers. I don’t think NS 5000 could sound better than source point 10s, that we have.
Love the SourcePoint 10s! A great match to the AS2200, which has been known to sound exactly like the CR 2020!
My CR 2020 was stolen in a burglary of our home about 30 years ago. They also took my prized Sony APM 22 ES’s. The best speakers I ever had for the money.
Noooooo....I watched the entire video hoping to get a demo and your reaction to the sound.
MX1, CX1 and NS1000M will sound just as good for 2k
Even without hearing it... its stunning!
Zylon?? are you planning to send these speakers into russia Ukraine war?? Paper cone is the best believe it or not...
That went quick, wish I could have seen a close-up of that turntable.
They create a problem and then look for funding to solve it
Yeah I'm buying Japanese alright,the 50k will go toward a Supra ,with a nice stereo built in and I'll sit in it.
The Supra may not last as long as these
What was that you touched in begin of video
That was the tweeter or midrange from the speakers
I don't trust mass market brands when they start making high end gear. Its almost always way overpriced for what you're getting. For me, its very important to know who's designing my gear. You have to hope that Yamaha has designers that are equally good at making speakers, amplification, and source components.
To be fair, I haven't heard this system, so I can't have an opinion on it. My comments are in general, That said, given my experience with other, similar equipment, I would be surprised if I couldn't put a system together that sounds better for half the price, or even less.
I think you gotta trust an og brand like Yanaha. It's these small boutique brands I typically don't trust. Great take, thanks for sharing!
Uhh Yamaha and Sony were making high-end since the '70s, just not always for the North American market. I mean Krell wasn't even a company yet and Mark Levinson was in it's infancy. In 1978 the flagship Yamaha 80lb receiver cost $1,500 USD which is $7,000 USD today. The preamp section was taken from their C2 separate preamp, had a real headamp that if I remember correctly put out 5 watts and if you mistuned the radio station as soon as you let go of the dial, it would automatically, electronically pull and lock the station for you. Most of the flagship monster receivers of the day were just powerful, but the Yamaha was so much more refined as well.
@@LennyFlorentine I don't have to trust anyone. You can if you want to, but that's a personal choice we all have to make for ourselves. As for "boutique brands", they're not all the same. For example, if you're looking for a new amp or preamp, Nelson Pass, Jeff Rowland, Charles Hanson, John Curl, Stewert Tyler, Ron Sutherland, Steve McCormack, Harry Westfield and Dan Dagastino are just a small handful of designers I would trust, and there are many more. Who's designing for Yamaha this week? Maybe the better question is, do they even have a designer, or is it being outsourced to some company in China? I like to know these things. Some people don't care, and that's their choice.
The thing about claiming you can put together a system that sounds better for half the price is that I've heard that sentiment a thousand times before and it never turns out to have any merit. If you're going to just base value on sound quality, it's possible ( less than half price is pure fantasy ) but it requires less build quality, fewer features, less performance capability and less power. I can tell by your statement you don't have much experience owning really high-end gear, even this $50,000 system is actually entry level high-end today. We live in a world where $100,000 amps sound much better than $20,000 amps. Lastly judging gear at a show demo or dealer is virtually useless. Over 30 years ago I auditioned a flagship five figure speaker from the number one dealer in the country and it sounded atrocious. Based on the reputation of the brand and the flagship status, I purchased them anyway. In my home with carefully chosen electronics (auditioned in my home) they sounded wonderful. A lot of dealers don't spend the time to maximize the potential of what they sell as it takes many, many hours to do so. BTW Yamaha has been making pianos since 1900 and wind instruments since 1965, for whatever that's worth.
@@AT-wl9yq Of which Charles Hanson do you speak?
Yamaha is the Honda of audio equipment. _BUILD_ _QUALITY_
This speakers great but not even close to yamaha ns2000!
Agreed. I've heard the 5000 series in a store, and while it's a superb system, it just made me realize how fortunate I am to have obtained and restore a Yamaha C-1 VFET preamp, and NS-1200 speakers (all-out attempt with Wharfdale). Just felt like another example of "don't make 'em like they used to" in effect. :/
Awesome content. Learned something today. Bro anyone ever tell you that you look just like dime bag Darrell the iconic Pantera guitarist.
Thanks and I'll take that
While I think your enthusiasm and production is GREAT! Yamaha equipment just cannot be taken seriously as these price levels. They make budget equipment and it's a bridge too far to ask these prices. They have almost zero brand cache' and no resale value.
Yamaha is the number one brand for musical instruments and are huge in the monitor and PA section. So their name is well established! And they have made great HiFi for many a years. I agree these products are expensive but also exceptional. Compared to a lot of exclusive high end products they dont seem so expensive..
Excellent system 50,000 dollars for the houl system 🤔that's a lot of cash 🇺🇲🤓😄🔥😁👍but I love the yamaha great show just Audio iv got something for you check out the new headphones the name is skullycandy headphones can you do a show about them you would be impressed by the shear power of the bass on this headphones perhaps
I would never wanna listen to music on a $6000 cd player, $6000 amp and $10000 speakers….since then I would have to come back home to reality and listen to music on my $300 cd player, $500 amp and $1000 speakers 😅
Thanks for the video.
Never knew Yamaha made really high end gear. You never hear about it.
This is my dream system
Note to the Yamaha guy.....You're not displaying the Crown Jewels.
YOU lost me at the $8000.00 turntable!!!😃
I could buy this system right now for what wouldn't make me happy I like my onkyo m504 driving my altec Lansing voice of the theater.
And if I was him I would know everything about the system witch he didn't........
Just audio sounds like you selling out.
Kinda what we end up with pro he is not convincing
Sorry I like just audio and will always but this guy is a dork.
If we do it right I think we have sucks
a lot of talk and no music playing? not even a minute or two? :-)
Piano black = fingerprint magnet, whatever the cost. Listening to music should be fun not fussing around with a cloth
You are talking TRUTH
As much as I'd love to have that separate amp and pre-amp the $20,000 combined price tag is a bit over my limit. I did recently get the A-S3200 Integrated Amp and the CD-S2100 CD SACD player for $8,000 and $3,000 and that was way over what I had originally planned on. I think those humongous turntables look silly, but that one isn't as huge as others I've seen.
@@jjinglenuts
Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of, lol. 😄
@@jjinglenuts
Yes, I do have the SACD running through XLR cables. I was considering a phono pre-amp with balanced for my turntable but the pre-amp in the A-S3200 is doing a great job with my low output moving coil cartridge so I can't see wasting the money.
Holy moly, what a beauty :) cool video!
Thanks!
Grass coating, I’m just joking, I’m sure that gentleman is 10x smarter than me, no disrespect sir.
Not even close to the ATC system which just has an active speaker and the best midrange on the planet.. Go listen
Sorry but you are most likely wrong ATC is really good but is probably not the ultimate speakersespecially not compared to these Yamaha beasts.
@@morlidor I very much doubt it!! I'm usually right
@@garth56 OK but now you are most likely wrong! But who cares! Both Yamaha and ATC makes great speakers.Even though a friend of mine bought ATC monitors that broke because ATC had coupled the crossovers wrong from the factory...
@@morlidor Even though my friend bought Yamaha's they broke to..Do you see where we're going..I'm way too old for this and a lot older than you..I'm just done i think what you want it's fine..I'm done with this and you've just pissed me off..Think what you want kiddo you'll not listen
The speaker is built like a Yamaha Grand Piano, you are going to break your knuckles if you try to Punch it.
Yeah it sure it
Audio tech has reached its peak long time back, they just cant improve anymore, just money grabbing , useless stuff.
Even the video has reached its peak
Nonsense!
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt , you have no idea of electronic s, you could be end product user with big ego.
No chance of improvement Unless we change the way speaker works.
@@lankaninternational1120 Show me your perfect amp "from way back" and compare it to my current Boulder amp and see which sounds better in a nice high-end setup. I guess every year when amps keep improving sound quality it's all a mass delusion or conspiracy and the CD player from the early '80s was " perfect sound forever " and no improvements since, either or how about............you're insane!
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt my conclusion of you was correct, you are just a end user.
You have no idea of how electricity and transistors works. Learn electronics and you may come to understand
" that source of the audio signal coming in to the amplifier has no direct connection to the electricity going out from amplifier to the speaker"
Its merely a high amplitude replication of source signal coming in to the amplifier.
There are no other ways to replicate original source electric signal in amplifiers, other than the method of analogue & digital amplification principles .
Be it valve or transistors, be it analogue or digital,
No other method of amplification possible!.
All we can do is..use better components, tighter values and tolerance and strict filters , silver/gold cables, cleaner power supplies etc.
We will talk about speakers next time.
One speaker I will own one day NS2000!!