Sonic Encore - Angel Island Demo - Sonic Fangame Showcase
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- Made by John Metzakis. You can get Sonic Encore from here:
• Sonic Encore Beta Demo...
Usually 3D Sonic fangames leave me very skeptical, especially if they use the Infinity Engine (I have my issues with that framework), so I was kind of weary when diving into this Sonic fangame too. Fortunately, this one uses the Bumper Engine instead so that already is a plus, as well as Sonic Encore leaving a positive impression, though not without some criticism.
The good things first, it's the level design. It's pretty great all things considered and utilizes Sonic's momentum pretty good, as well as having a good sense of direction. Not to mention, the levels themselves look pretty gorgeous too.
The thing I don't like though is the movement is kind of janky, from the running animation to how Sonic controls mid air or trying to brake. Holding back while midair doesn't slow down his jump arc gradually, but instead makes Sonic turn in a circle akwardly facing the other direction. Even when trying to brake on the ground, Sonic just sometimes turns instead. I don't know if it's inherent to the Bumper Engine (I know Sonic GT had this problem too, but not to this extent or maybe I'm remembering wrong). Makes platforming, low or high speed feel unpredictable at times.
That said, this is still pretty good and do recommend you check it out and I hope to see more of it in the future.
Anyways, please enjoy the video. :)
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Can I just say? I'm not the biggest fan of alot of these fangames taking notes from Forces when it comes to idle animations. Sonic's always moved (or even blinked) in his prior idle animations, so seeing him stand like a lifeless plank of wood is extremely offputting
i strongly agree!
The pose is fine, but I agree otherwise. At the very least, the Forces/Lost World pose is better than the stock-still, lifeless Unleashed/Gens pose. He at least looks ready to move and not like he's lining up for a mug shot.
In case of Bumper Engine games it's often a case of not taking from anywhere instead of taking from Forces. Stock Bumper Engine has a bug in its idle animation system and such minor details usually aren't high on priority list.
Maybe it's not going after Forces, but just lack of polish. If you ever developed a game, you know that neat details are usually not priority.
I hear ya. Idle animation adds character without anything needing to be stated. The most recent installment is not at all how you handle so,etching so small and yet integral to character design. Never mind how off the model in the actual game is.
Luckily though, a lot of these fan games understand this. In fact, I’d say they understand it more than Sonic Team’s current dev team or their writing staff, which is a blessing, but a disappointment when you consider the official creators, and especially the original creators of the games before them.
There's a ton of potential here. The environment modeling is top-notch and I'm a fan of this style of level design. Definitely needs some degree of scripting for the camera though. The audio levels need work too but idk how fair of a criticism that is at this stage of development.
This will be sonic Generations in 2013
......huh?
2023 you mean?
As a non-Sonic-fan, I just want to say the passion of Sonic fans never ceases to amaze me.
It looks good! Only issues seem to be the camera movements and some of the game physics and sounds. Level design is top notch and looks like a really fun game. Wonder if sonic will go faster and have a boost. Good luck keep up the work
Looks great and the bounce action fits Sonic perfectly.
It lacks danger/challenge, though.
If this and project hero can combine, it will be the ultimate sonic fan game.
imagine...
*Sonic: Hero's Encore*
I think the Robotnik battle could be upped a bit. For example, if he added the mini-bosses to the fight (which is damn good idea - I always wondered where the heck did all that horde of bots that burned AA went after that), how about including them more? Say, adding the option to guide bombs at Robotnik (or Robotnik at bomb impact points?) and, for example, with every couple of hits Robotniks takes it higher and you only can reach him first if you bounce from one bot, then from two, and for the last hit you need to "climb" four bots to reach him.
guys, play this video on 720p60
it's glorious.
I play on 1080p60
It's beautiful
In this scene, right at 8:06, everything would look SO MUCH better if the camera automatically got infront of Sonic, instead of behind, like when Sonic runs away from the Killer whale/Truck in the Adventures
Just a thought but maybe try to change the camera angle automatically when going through incline turns like at 5:11. He clearly can’t see where he is going unless he looked far far off into the distance initially or already knows the course. Even panning out like others said would help tremendously. This is also very confusing because u can see the camera move slightly though out the video when reacting to terrain change so it’s odd to see it locked up when it needs to turn more...
Level design looks great, but they really need to back up the camera.
Also, am I the only one who thinks Sonic's moving kind of slow?
@@laststrike4411 I thought the same thing. There isn't much you can do to get him to accelerate except for going over boost panels or finding a hill to roll down
@@XerKoro_neo a boost mechanic would work good here, not to the level it is currently but enough to where u can go faster
The level design is fine, but the physics feel absolutely weird as hell. I don't ever remember the bumper engine feeling this extremely jank.
Granted, I haven't played many canvases using Bumper, but from what I've heard the base package always controls janky.
This game has potential...a lot.
MOMENTUM CARRIED UPON IMPACT OF ENEMY, 10/10 FAN GAME. wish more did that instead of just losing all of it after a homing attack
This feels like another example of the fans making better sonic games than sega. This looks really solid!
I usually hate these sonic fan game things but this actually looks like it has pretty thoughtful level design as opposed to some soulless empty world
A Sonic fangame that ISN'T just an empty Unity wasteland that calls it done? Pinch me I'm dreaming!
Pull that camera back some and tighten the stages and you're golden! Great job so far though
Edit: "tighten" as in: players need to know which direction(s) they can go when playing a game- especially a Sonic game built on speed. If the environment is too "open," they can easily get misdirected and slow down that momentum. Branching paths can keep things from becoming too linear (which you have here) and add to replay value. Definitely an amazing job though!
Sonic games CAN be good! They just need the right people, the right tools, and the right amout of time working on it!
This looks great i want to see more
This will be grapmhices in 2030
I said it first, pleb XD
I wish they would do this, but they just keep re-releasing GreenHill Zone
Yay, another 3D fan game besides GT that has decent level design and isn’t simply an open sandbox test environment or shitty ports of existing stages
I mean, GT has the former in Radical Highway, but otherwise your point still stands.
epicRedHot I mean that’s just a port, the creator even said he was just using that stage for practice and it won’t be in the final game
That'd probably be abandoned in few months like most of Sonic fan games lol.
Runeism hope not, cause GT is great
Bryçe Bryan still, I admire the effort
Oh my good amazing graphics and stage is Amazing
This looks pretty interesting. Although the sound volume balance is all over the place
it's a little difficult to hear sonic sometimes. but all he does is grunt and have fun, so there's not much problem with that.
This looks awesome! Why doesn't Sega take a look at these fangames? They could learn a thing or two
Looks like it took notes from Sonic Utopia, very nice tbh
I would love to play this more than sonic forces.
What's your PC configuration?
Did this game ever get finished before today? I'm asking because of Unity
What if sega makes a modern sonic sand box game like this with a story and alot of levels and stages
YESS! absolutely Love that "hill-physics/Gravity-Into-Speed" mechanic. I saw it first in the Sonic Utopia Fan game and am PUMPED to see it continued in the best 3D sonic fan games. Keep up the great work!
Why do sonic fangames always have level design that obviously only the creator would know how to navigate lmao
Does anyone else think the camera is wayyy too close? Like it's riding sonic like a truck on the freeway
It would be better if the camera is move upwards a bit sonic is always in the middle i cant see anything without getting distracted
I'll have to say, not a fan of how close the camera is to Sonic in this. Now, the level design is completely the opposite. It's great! I don't mean to make comparisons, but just imagine playing through these levels using the Project Hero framework. It would be heavenly. But aside from that, it's looking good.
I fucking love this lmao. A sonic fangame not set in green hill zone.
I would put a cooldown bar for the homing attack, because if not it makes the game a lot more easy, so, the thing would be being able to make 3 hommings attacks, and then, wait 10 or 15 seconds until the bar it 100%full to being able to do 3 more homming attacks.
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Because Homming attacks mechanic breaks the game a lot, making it to easy, and even breaks some of the fundaments of the platform genre, i mean, attacking an enemy jumping on them (in this case) and have to control the movement of the character in the air to hit the enemy.(This happens in all modern sonics)
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I know that homming attack it used to reach shortcuts and secret areas,etc.But, putting a cooldown limit to the homming attacks, the player will have to think when to use a homming attack, instead of using it like a maniac during all the stage and bosses.
I second this, a stamina gauge would fit perfectly. It could even get minor upgrades to allow an extra homing attack or two
camera is way too close to sonic for how fast you can go
Just once. Just one fan made sonic game that doesn't use green hill zone as a theme. I don't get the obsession
I love the nod to crisis city classic for the speed shoe theme
Sega when they try to recreate the adventure games:OK let's see, put crud controls in, replace the homing attack with a double jumb
Fans when they try to recreate the adventure games:OK now let's make what was good better, and turn the bad, into a good thing
Just comparing this with Sonic Forces makes it so awkward, maybe no original Sonic Title can stand this anymore... I'm curious what comes next from Sonic Team
Sega, *please* take notes.
Why don't we get Sonic games like this anymore? That's what made SA1 and 2 good. The weird thing is, Sega are struggling to make Sonic games that people enjoy, but, they know exactly what the fans want and for some reason, aren't doing it?
Like, Super Mario creates a variety of the same kind of games all the time, it works. Sonic creates new games with implementations of what the fans want and new things to make sure they keep their train of disappointment. I'm not hating on Sonic though, I like the games, but it's like they're making less games due to the negative response and when they get good response they ignore it...and give us racing games haha.
This fixed one of my biggest problems when showcasing these sonic fan engines. And that theres actual level design showing it being used and not just a big open field.
This is what I envision an "Open Sandbox" Sonic game would be like.
I don't think making Sonic as an open Sandbox type of game would be a good idea.
@@ikagura agreed
@@ikagura
It's really all in the execution. Either they can pull it off or they can't.
@@TripleJump I think Sega aren't able to make a good 3D Sonic game unless they do another one exactly like Colours and Generations.
@@ikagura Please not like Colors again
If they released a game with level design that mediocre in this generation? lmao
Love the level design and the graphics......But Sonic seems to be moving too slow for me. I don't really feel the presence of speed watching him run.
Please for the love of god. MOVE THE CAMERA UP SO YOU CAN SEE AHEAD.
God why cant sega have level design this good sega just needs to hire the damn fans at this point cause they would do a better job then sega themselves hell I would love a remake of adventure 1 and 2 but I doubt sega will do that sadly
Looks great, but would be hoping to turn off Sonics vocals. Everytime he jumps...he has to make some exclamation.
the camera on this one is really hard to look at. its too low and close to sonic, meaning it feels claustrophobic and shakey.
Angel Island has much more potential than Green Hill IMO.
Not enough enemies
Very cool, though I'd rather play a sonic fangame with completely new zones rather than rehashes of the originals, just with different level design.
COOL
The game looks great, but the camera needs a bit of work. It is very braked/choppy when trying to keep up with Sonic, it would need to be smoother to really feel good.
Great camera work. You can really get a good look at Sonic's ass lol. Other than that it looks super cool. It has actual level design, too!
I appreciate the work involved in these things for sure, but can't say I agree with this style of fangame. Unless you're some super genius (or possibly even then), you're never going to compare to the work done by AAA studios when emulating them. Usually, you just end up making something that looks really bad or low quality instead, which I'd say is what this looks like here. And it's not like recent Sonic is worth emulating to begin with either.
Smaller devs should play to their strengths more instead, I think. You can make your effort go much further if you do.
Oh look, actual level design. Not the common, boring, empty expanses, "Sega, Take Notes™" trash that dominates the 3D fangame scene.
I mean those were largely meant as tech demos to have free reign in testing out the physics engine.
I also went from skeptical to very impressed! Overall presentation value from the gameplay elements hit a home run. On top of that, angel island reimagined in 3D?? YES
This is amazing level design!
And that's about it. It lacks cinematic cameras, it looks really janky to play, and those voice clips are unbearable, It has potential, but could be MUCH better.
@@DanieleMulas-up7np Almost as if this isn't an official project? Of course there are gonna be some imperfections, this is more of a level showcase than a full game.
Cool
You guys know the game Sonic Runners Revival? I want to download it but am unsure how to do it.
you can go to the official sonic runners revival youtube channel and you can search there the official website with the latest version of the project.
Here's the official Sonic Runners channel: ua-cam.com/channels/i9BNPopIEmZOIn9VmLKu1w.html
Well if anything is to be said, the level design is spectacular.
Some of the design choices are weird. Super cool screw path but you can light dash through the midle, removing all the fun. Loops that you go through the midle just because. Something about all this feels... off. Maybe if I played it, it would show me a new prespective.
Yu gonna crash ahhh
I will buy this for ps4
The sense of speed is sorely lacking, and it's not helped by the camera being very close to Sonic, denying much vision of his surroundings. I ain't familiar with these Infinity or Bumper or whatever engines that people keep using, but some things they have in common is how the camera snaps to the new plane that Sonic's traversing when it's not flat ground, which could be disorienting in a number of ways. I'm surprised how there aren't many games which take notes from Distance's camera, which smoothly hangs and leans depending on which direction you're going, diegetically informing you of where "down" is.
Giving credit where it's due, traversing the levels on its own seems fun. The lack of drama with the speed and movement greatly lowers the fun factor for me.
The bombs going off just in front of you would be a majorly cheap obstacle to deal with, given the circumstances. The explosions not dealing damage is merely a band-aid.
And the most fustrating thing I've found is that the electric shield stops you in the air when you do a double jump with it, stopping your momentum, making it a little difficult to platform, well it doesn't totally stop you in the air, you can move afterwards, i know this is nitpicking. but i just couldn't handle it, momentum in sonic games is what makes them fun that's why i'm nitpicking that. and i agree with the camera part that you mentioned.
its worth mentioning though that you can get incredible speed with this engine, if you’ve seen the gameplay at length - additionally though, i feel like it’s as fast as it needs to be for the gameplay style
It has potential, but please CHANGE those goddamn voice lines. Also, it kinda lacks of cinematic cameras.
This is how I would imagine Sonic Mania in 3d
When fan made games gives you more hope than sega them selves xD
Really nice! The hud looks like a fan made thing.. he should make it like cleaner and appealing at the same time! The rest for me is 10/10
It moved so fluent and it looks so beautiful in the music sounds outstanding nice 👏👏👍 ✨S✨
can you guys remake the entire Sonic 2006 game with a better storyline than the crap, Sega put out?
man i miss the generstions drifting.It was the most fun, like playing a 3d tyre kirby.
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will you be covering any sonic games on dreams?
I don't have a Playstation 4 and even if I did, I still lack the recording equipment. That's why I mostly stick to PC gaming, since all recording is done via software (i.e. Nvidia Shadowplay)
@@MariusUrucu ok just asking
@@MariusUrucu even if you lack the recording hardware the ps4 has a built in recorder edit: yes their are limitations, like if you record something it can't be past an hour, either that or you can't upload anything past an hour, and how you can't record your achievement without it being blurred, and certain games will cut the recording as not to spoil the game for other people.
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Só falta o scripting...
The level design is great but i see they have a lot of abilities added that may not be that useful, the stomp here is mostly used just for bouncing and nothing else, so why not add some secret places that require the stomp to gain access AND instead of making the Stomp bounce sonic it would be an add on of the water shield, cuz, come on bouncing is just busted and makes it lose the platforming style, the spindash wasn't that useful either besides starting the level but i believe that could be fixed on future levels with more platforms that may slowdown sonic
Also the boss fights may look better if they had some kind of lock-on to the boss (Not all of them since the boss of stage 2 was ok), for example the miniboss fight from stage 1 could have the camera locked on the miniboss.
Besides those 2 points the game is awesome and im looking foward to it!
You get online and see this kinda shit and then you look at the shit sega gave us like sonic forces...they just be saying fuck it. 😂
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Love the demo well they'll be more please make doomsday zone been wanting a remake of that forever lol
God this looks so good, the level design, the music, sonic's abilities, THE SPEEED
I like it
I don't like the way you play it . . Just take away all the impressive works the creater put into his game...
Sonic 3D game are not just about seeing how fast you can get to the finish line
What is a sonic game without boost
A good start...
Seriously though, as much as I loved Unleashed, Generations and even Colors to some extent, the boost kind of gets old after a point unless people find new ways to make challenging and unique levels for this playstyle.
In any boost game, beyond aesthetic, have you notice how all of them use the same kind of obstacles, level assets, props, etc. ?
@@MariusUrucu i did and wondering why did they never did the third storybook or another better rider game or a fighting game
@@MariusUrucu now is the fan that make sonic game great again
@@ssdxalpha8410 well sonic games without boost seems very similar like the adventure style, you have the bounce bracelet, the spindash, (i don't know why Sega ditched it after sonic unleashed but ok) and of course you have the electric shield power up that helps you collect rings more easily, and the light speed dash that helps you reach secret areas that have a stack of rings that you can follow. that's the most i could think about. :/
Sonic should keep the boost but closer to the one like in Colors
Why hasn't sonic team offered you a job yet?
he didn't make the game you know that right?
Nintendo hire this man!
besides i'm pretty sure that's not really how it works
making a good sonic fangame wouldn't instantly make sega or sonic team "HIRE THIS MAN" as far as i know
relevant: ua-cam.com/video/C1Y_d_Lhp60/v-deo.html
The Made With Unity already made me unwatch this video 💀
Why? There are some amazing games that were made in Unity.
@@MariusUrucu like granny
@@metalsonicgameshowcase7242 ...how old are you?
@@MariusUrucu not giving personal info to strangers
@@metalsonicgameshowcase7242 Well, that's at lesst good you're aware because I can tell by the replies you're a kid.
Either way, don't be this shallow when it comes to games, or anything in general, especially when you grow up, please.
music is bad
What a scam, it just looks like Green Hill with more trees.
Also the UI is kinda distracting, they should go with minimalism
in addition mate, i think this did a marvellous job of importing angel island zone; it *does* have the forest cover just like the original
I guess we start calling angel island, Green hills now becus it trees and grass
@Immanuel Ntim-Addae I want a good game (which most classic game are).