Lori’s lawyer is particularly nasty towards the more “soft spoken” women that have been called and I don’t think that’s doing the defense any favors. It also says a lot about his own personal character. You can redirect without being condescending and unkind. Sheesh.
Misogynists can't stand competent and independent women. They bully soft spoken, mild mannered women and counter louder voiced, assertive women by calling them shrill and angry.
YES!!! I’ve just posted above about team ! They are a joke ! Talk about ineffective council ! I’m wondering why the state hired him he is an embarrassment to the field of law! I wonder how many he has represented that were granted a retrial due to ineffective council ? Let’s take bets! Imo she. Better just take a plea deal she may have a better shot ! This is embarrassing!!
She searched child life insurance policies 3 days after texting Chad she found out she was not the recipient of Charles' life insurance policy. Interesting timing...
Oh man those addresses for lori are literally right where im near! I drive by them all the time and i always wondered where all these things had taken place! I just had no idea that i was right by all of the places! 😮😢
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Lori's team must be feeling the heat about not offering much of a defense (which didn't bother anyone, just kind of amusing) so now they are seriously cross-examining. But about what exactly?
This is why I think when convicted and I think she will be, she will appeal on grounds of insignificant counseling. Will it work, nope! What ever made this narcissistic psychopath think outsider's looking in would simply believe her pile of bs and sweep Charles, Tammy, Tylee and JJ death's under the rug and Lori was going to get her delusional happy ending is way beyond my comprehension.
They got what they wanted. Death off the table. The defense does not have to ask any questions. It's the states burden. ❤ It seems the point they were asking is Lori us not the only crazy person involved. Which I 100 percent agree. Melanie Fibb oh I mean Gibb should be held accountable as well!
@@pmshea63 OH, I agree wholeheartedly! _Both_ the Melanies anger me. But what was all that stuff about: "Would you be surprised to find out that Sept 22 fell on a Monday?" etc. I will admit, I am not so bright, so perhaps I missed something.
Her attorney as are horrible!! And tax payers pay for this?!! They are awful their questions are as if they’re grabbing them from the air ! A mute would have been a better hire! This is a joke ! They are absolutely not prepared I’ve listened to their cross and it’s a joke! I cannot believe they are attorneys! She mide as well take a plea bcuz she may have a better shot ! She deserves the death penalty! With those attorney’s she will certainly get another trial at OUR COST!!
She was advised by her counsel to plead insanity or temporary insanity. She refused. The Defense can only do so much, especially with bizarre testimony about 'the Lights and the Darks', 'zombies', and other such nonsense.
She WOULD NEED TI BE DEEMED quite quite mentally Ill !! Mental illness does NOT mean one is not cognizant of right from wrong ! Your reply is the very reason we are where we are today w such serious issues!
YES!! Talk about ineffective council! I cannot believe the state continues to hire this guy ! You can clearly see he is not prepared and pulling things from his ass
Yeah but it’s kinda obvious that these defense attorneys have nothing to work with from a legal perspective…the only thing they can do is make objections on dumb shit otherwise she could use ineffective counsel as bases for appeal. I can only imagine that the Vallow/ Daybell case would be a defense attorney’s nightmare.
Wow. Lori was searching life insurance for children after their murder. Was she thinking about insuring them to claim on it once they were considered deceased?
I was thinking about this, off thought, but would be interesting if the verdict happens Mother’s Day. Seems life in prison would be the perfect Mother’s Day gift!
Yep, Lauri knew she would get away and take her $ with her. Laurie knew she needed to eliminate a loose end with Charles death. Tylee would have flipped once laurie took out JJ. Tylee would have testified that Alex wouldn't have done anything without being told to do so by Laurie.
@@Hoffmanpack Why did they take 2 weeks to murder both children ? Why not both at once ? What was the issue they were facing, keeping JJ alive longer ?
Good on the prosecutor for re-cross examining, showing that the significance is not by the dates but by the similarity of Sunday and Monday for JJ and Tylee’s heartbreaking passing (bless the innocent)
If the jury cant make sense of the players in this weird octagon then there is reasonable doubts. There is for me at this point. Looks like Alex may have done the deed. Lori can walk or be found co conspirator and receive a lighter sentence.
A co-conspirator in a murder, and in this case multiple murders, isn't going to get a lighter sentence. And I see plenty of connecting circumstantial evidence to put the witch away for life, since the death penalty was unfortunately taken off the table. I hope that Arizona nails her for Charles' murder, after Idaho gets done with her.
Did the defense just say at the 1:39 mark when discussing Tuesday….. the kids died on Monday. Stated it as it was a fact. When all along he’s said the state can’t proof the date the kids died. Interesting.
How does the defense counsel know people were killed in Monday not Tuesday? Even the police cannot say. Chad announced he woke up one morning and Tammy was dead. (Though versions differ.) The police cannot say whether each child was killed later the same day after their last proof of life, or early next day. So the Tuesday thing perfectly well can be correct.
The defense attorney isn’t as convincing as he thinks he is. His abrasive condescending nature isn’t doing Lori any favors. Not that I’m complaining but hes so ugh to listen to
All these phone #'s ----------and Aliases, are precisely what guilty people--------criminals & organized crime--------do, & use. This is what people do when they know what they are doing, is wrong. -------MJL, 76 y/o
Interesting fact: Lori’s nickname “Lolo” is the Hawaiian word for Crazy.
LOL
Priceless!
I thought it was lolli?
Loco.. universal for bonkers
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Thanks so much EIN! I love how you separate the witnesses! ❤
So her defense has nothing. Absolute waste of everyone's time. Why isn't there a firing squad in this case?!?!!
However I think we can all say Glory Hallelujah Mark means is not here, he would have temper tantrums every day.. 🤣🤣
IKR? It's upsetting that the judge took the death penalty off of the table! Hopefully they can get her in Arizona for poor Charles Vallow's murder!
Lori’s lawyer is particularly nasty towards the more “soft spoken” women that have been called and I don’t think that’s doing the defense any favors. It also says a lot about his own personal character. You can redirect without being condescending and unkind. Sheesh.
I cringed when he crossed Kay Woodcock. It didn’t seem to have any value other than to upset her.
Misogynists can't stand competent and independent women. They bully soft spoken, mild mannered women and counter louder voiced, assertive women by calling them shrill and angry.
If a sloth could talk, he’d sound like Lori’s Lawyer.
YES!!! I’ve just posted above about team ! They are a joke ! Talk about ineffective council ! I’m wondering why the state hired him he is an embarrassment to the field of law!
I wonder how many he has represented that were granted a retrial due to ineffective council ? Let’s take bets!
Imo she. Better just take a plea deal she may have a better shot ! This is embarrassing!!
Very Annoying!
Nailed it
Man, these adds r so much LOUDER then the testimony. 💥😣
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She searched child life insurance policies 3 days after texting Chad she found out she was not the recipient of Charles' life insurance policy. Interesting timing...
Oh shizzzzzz
Ding ding first degree murder.
Oh man those addresses for lori are literally right where im near! I drive by them all the time and i always wondered where all these things had taken place! I just had no idea that i was right by all of the places! 😮😢
Nate you are doing such an incredible job keeping us updated on Twitter! Thank you for all of the exceptional play by play information. I don’t know how your thumbs move that fast with such accuracy! 🎯
You'd think Idaho could afford more than a potato to record this testimony
The judge wanted it as low tech as possible.
@@y2ksurvivor yeah, LDS is very embarrassed by the whole thing. Last thing they want is accurate documentation.
Lori's team must be feeling the heat about not offering much of a defense (which didn't bother anyone, just kind of amusing) so now they are seriously cross-examining. But about what exactly?
This is why I think when convicted and I think she will be, she will appeal on grounds of insignificant counseling. Will it work, nope! What ever made this narcissistic psychopath think outsider's looking in would simply believe her pile of bs and sweep Charles, Tammy, Tylee and JJ death's under the rug and Lori was going to get her delusional happy ending is way beyond my comprehension.
They got what they wanted. Death off the table. The defense does not have to ask any questions. It's the states burden. ❤
It seems the point they were asking is Lori us not the only crazy person involved. Which I 100 percent agree. Melanie Fibb oh I mean Gibb should be held accountable as well!
Personally I don't think they have much of a defense the evidence is overwhelming... she is guilty as sin!
Lori will surely file an appeal based on that 401 Arizona evidence and INADEQUATE COUNSEL. Maybe that's the goal......😣
@@pmshea63 OH, I agree wholeheartedly! _Both_ the Melanies anger me. But what was all that stuff about: "Would you be surprised to find out that Sept 22 fell on a Monday?" etc. I will admit, I am not so bright, so perhaps I missed something.
Her attorney as are horrible!! And tax payers pay for this?!! They are awful their questions are as if they’re grabbing them from the air !
A mute would have been a better hire! This is a joke !
They are absolutely not prepared I’ve listened to their cross and it’s a joke! I cannot believe they are attorneys!
She mide as well take a plea bcuz she may have a better shot ! She deserves the death penalty!
With those attorney’s she will certainly get another trial at OUR COST!!
She was advised by her counsel to plead insanity or temporary insanity. She refused. The Defense can only do so much, especially with bizarre testimony about 'the Lights and the Darks', 'zombies', and other such nonsense.
It sounds so bad because there is no defence!
She WOULD NEED TI BE DEEMED quite quite mentally Ill !!
Mental illness does NOT mean one is not cognizant of right from wrong !
Your reply is the very reason we are where we are today w such serious issues!
Lori's lawyer is grasping at strawd. Why is he even making a fool of himself
YES!! Talk about ineffective council! I cannot believe the state continues to hire this guy ! You can clearly see he is not prepared and pulling things from his ass
Inadequate counsel will be made an appeal issue by the Inadequate counsel
Yeah but it’s kinda obvious that these defense attorneys have nothing to work with from a legal perspective…the only thing they can do is make objections on dumb shit otherwise she could use ineffective counsel as bases for appeal. I can only imagine that the Vallow/ Daybell case would be a defense attorney’s nightmare.
She looked up wedding dresses the day of Tammy’s funeral 🤮
😢 that is so sick....
Disgusting woman
That defense lawyer gets on my last nerve. 😊
Wow. Lori was searching life insurance for children after their murder. Was she thinking about insuring them to claim on it once they were considered deceased?
After she did it a few months before they were killed.
@@yourinnerlawyer4035 ok thanks.
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I was thinking about this, off thought, but would be interesting if the verdict happens Mother’s Day. Seems life in prison would be the perfect Mother’s Day gift!
Tylee was killed a few weeks before her birthday.
Yep, Lauri knew she would get away and take her $ with her. Laurie knew she needed to eliminate a loose end with Charles death. Tylee would have flipped once laurie took out JJ. Tylee would have testified that Alex wouldn't have done anything without being told to do so by Laurie.
@@Hoffmanpack Why did they take 2 weeks to murder both children ? Why not both at once ? What was the issue they were facing, keeping JJ alive longer ?
She’s completely competent. She’s not crazy. She’s a zealot. And a narcissist.
Who? The states attorney or the witness? Or who?
@@lynh7914 Lori Vallow
@@lynh7914 state attorney sounds beautiful
Lori clearly didn't study vedic astrology.
and ....? If she had?
@@FernVertwell, stuff! Surely….?😂🤷🏻♂️
Let the defense have his sarcastic way as it will be knocked out of him when she is convicted to spend the rest of her life behind bars.
Thank you
Good on the prosecutor for re-cross examining, showing that the significance is not by the dates but by the similarity of Sunday and Monday for JJ and Tylee’s heartbreaking passing (bless the innocent)
Can we cut the commercials please
Why is there a break in the audio for these recording of the trial?
The station breaks them in sections. Easier for audiences to listen to specific individual is my guess.
Wonder why in text to Chad's children he would start with Hi this is Chad and not Hi this is Dad???
She should get the Death penalty ! Garbage trail
What did the judge whisper at the 50 minute mark.
I’m wondering why all the focus on Charles Vallow when this is about Tammy and JJ and Tylee
Because Lori has killed more people than those 3 so they are laying the groundwork for a solid conviction.
Be patient for gods sake!
Defense is weak.
I hope she gets convicted or something this is a horrible case.
Of course she’ll be convicted. Slam dunk.
If the jury cant make sense of the players in this weird octagon then there is reasonable doubts. There is for me at this point. Looks like Alex may have done the deed. Lori can walk or be found co conspirator and receive a lighter sentence.
I definitely agree. All evidence seems circumstantial regarding Loris’s participation in these events. Enough jury may have reasonable doubts.
A co-conspirator in a murder, and in this case multiple murders, isn't going to get a lighter sentence. And I see plenty of connecting circumstantial evidence to put the witch away for life, since the death penalty was unfortunately taken off the table. I hope that Arizona nails her for Charles' murder, after Idaho gets done with her.
Judge at just after 50:00 whispers,
Oh, I didn’t something something it’s your first warning. I couldn’t make it out all the way
Isnt Ned Shnider the name Latica Stauch came up with in her lies about what happened to Gannon?
No...she came up with EGwardo.......presumably she meant Edwardo....another evil witch lying lying lying her way into a life sentence.....
No, totally separate case. She did not use this name in any way.
Letecia accused Eguardo and also Quincy Brown.
Did the defense just say at the 1:39 mark when discussing Tuesday….. the kids died on Monday. Stated it as it was a fact. When all along he’s said the state can’t proof the date the kids died. Interesting.
What did the judge say at around minute 50?
How does the defense counsel know people were killed in Monday not Tuesday?
Even the police cannot say.
Chad announced he woke up one morning and Tammy was dead. (Though versions differ.)
The police cannot say whether each child was killed later the same day after their last proof of life, or early next day.
So the Tuesday thing perfectly well can be correct.
The defense attorney isn’t as convincing as he thinks he is. His abrasive condescending nature isn’t doing Lori any favors. Not that I’m complaining but hes so ugh to listen to
The websites visited needs to be provided-that were clicked on
why didn’t they put JJ’s service dog in the pet cemetery?!?😮
It's fun listening to the Defense wispering lol
I find her lawyer's voice and slownessssss in speaking so irritating...
IN GOD WE FULLY TRUST
Does anyone think Lori will take the stand?
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All these phone #'s ----------and Aliases, are precisely what guilty people--------criminals & organized crime--------do, & use. This is what people do when they know what they are doing, is wrong. -------MJL, 76 y/o
Searching for wedding dresses the day of Tammy Daybell's funeral. That is really cold and sick.
Guilty as sin!!!!!! ARC ANGEL Raphael is supposed to bring two together
This prosecutor is the 💣💥!!
She's 👍