@@anaskashim4952 not exactly Yes, fin is basically end, but for stories its the end of one story so another can begin later. End its a definitive end, no more stories
@@joaquindiaz3621Isn't it funny that I've seen these 3 exact comments on older videos? (Persona 5 Maruki bad ending and OG P3 bad ending) History repeats itself.
@@giovanni1482Do we know if Royji intentionally let Aigis keep her memory? I've been assuming that she isn't affected because she's not an organic being.
Ami this bad ending destroyed me, I thought that in the end they would remember everything but still dying because they would not have the necessary power, seeing how it just ends without further ado left me with an emptiness :c
20:52 I didn't notice this the first time, but it shows Yukari, Junpei, and Mokoto all doing their own separate activities which represents a shallow bond between the three.
Noticed off the rip & was kinda unsettled by it, shows the drastic change a group can have when having gone through ups and downs & when a group hasn’t, think in this ending the trio is only friends by title, don’t think any of them would lend a helping hand if another of the 3 needed it
I got that immediately, Reload being my first playthrough of the game. It broke my heart. Junpei talking on the phone and Makoto writing or doodling something. I saw a part of a video on Persona bad endings and it I think Reload brings this home better than whichever versions ending I saw with the isolated shots of each of the 3 of them. Shows that even though they were in the same room they were so far apart.
Aigis... She still remembers... It makes you think, if she wasn't affected by the memory wipe... When everything dies, would she perish too? Or would she be alone in a cold, dead world?
@@fadlanfadilah1171 well the fact of the matter is the fall is everyone becomes apathetic, they become the lost and lose the will to live. I'm sure aigis would just be there alone in a cold dead world while everyone else is wandering around hopelessly until they die
I really like that ryoji never was inherently evil. He gave them a choice. He wanted them to have peace even if it was in vain. He wasn’t happy to become nyx at all. Kinda sad
@@VuNguyen-fv5jl Ikr. It’s tragic. He desperately hates the idea but can’t stop it because it was and always will be his sole purpose. He was *never* meant to feel or make friends or truly be around humanity but he was. He was and he saw the beauty of it, even if it’s often covered in cruelty. He saw the good and hated that he had to destroy it too
As dark as this is, I’m glad they kept this one, especially the karaoke part. It symbolizes blissful ignorance as well as happiness, and… not knowing that the world will end at anytime. ANY… time. Gives me the chills thinking about it.😬
How is that even dark? I dont see nowhere chills about that its just literally looks bland to me not to mention with that movie cutscene at the end where its like anime scene lmao
I think while in the part that you can talk with everyone in the true ending, if you saw all the linked episodes with akihiko, he mentions a friend dying and that he has a feeling that he is forgetting something important, before remembering everything in the 5th, basically yeah, he probably thinks that's how he died
@@stillamitchinmybook6320 He says something like, "hey, do you remember shinji?" And then he explains that he died in an incident, possibly referring to a gang fight or something like that, then he says that he feels like he is forgetting something
@@MariusBoss11458 I kind of liked it in FES when they used Memories of You because it made it feel unsettling especially on that final shot of Yukari singing fading to grey it was like wow... they really just died that day...
Loool like the other person said, its unskippable even in the good ending. I like to think they forced the credits cause everyone deserves unskippable recognition for the masterpiece of a game they've made together
@@vihangasilva you know what's weird is that in the original they played the same song for both like "good job doing the wrong thing here's your j pop"
@6:15 I love the attention to detail they have in there. In the bad ending, Aigis’ name is “Girl,” indicating that you, the MC, don’t remember who she is, whereas in the good ending, they kept her name.
I can guarantee that people who say that this isn’t a bad ending literally did not play the game which is usually 90% the case with most Persona fans. What part of Ryoji saying that by killing him, the inevitable is delayed and they can live peacefully did you guys not understand? THE WORLD IS STILL GOING TO END! LOL! Everyone’s memories gets wiped out except for Aigis and they go on peacefully without knowing the tragedy that will befall on the world.
I think many are people who have either not played the game or persona 5 fans confused by the Maruki ending where the cast gets live in ignorance but happy forever, while in persona 3 reload the cast gets to live in ignorance of the world ending its the worst fate as well cause Makoto went against the casts wishes of wanting to fight Nyx and chose to accept death anyways.
@@noone-xd6ie I'm 100% sure the ones confused by the Maruki ending are the same type of people who get confused by this. Like those look great in any other context but not in those. In P5R you strip people out of their will to think for themselves. In P3 you literally sentence yourself to a nice death.
@mrex666productions7 Yeah but there are pretty serious differences. They're both bad ends within the context of the games themes but Maruki's end feels like an actual choice. The point of persona 5 is to accept the crushing blows of reality and use what agency you have to grow beyond them. But not everyone has the power the phantom thieves do. You have the option to erase the pain of victims like Shiho or those extorted and forced into the sex trade by Kaneshiro and give those people happy lives. That's something you can't really gloss over as easily as p3's bad end.
@@LordAlbrecht You don't need literal power like the Phantom Thieves to make stuff better for yourself. You just need the power to move on with yourself and let go of the pain, but never forget it.
I always liked to believe that the moment the scene ends and the End label comes up, is the exact moment The Fall occurs. All life ends in an instant, while everyone is blissfully unaware that the end has come for them.
The way it awkwardly ends is so sickening. It sort of felt like that was the very instant the world ended. There was no fade to black between choices and there was no warning. It was instant annihilation of all life. We don't even get to make a choice. We are forced to watch with zero say in the matter. No longer the master of our own fate, the journey is over and we are forced to watch
Probably something the OG’s felt already, but man there’s so much layer that make this bad ending hit. On the surface everyone resuming everyday life, until the fall happens. Simple enough. It’s looking at the character RESETS that sets a reality. Let’s say the fall happens in another 5 or 10 years. What will happen? The main trio are just “High school buddies.” Once come adult life, they’ll easy drift apart, and forget about each other. Main character stays an isolated blank state. Junpei doesn’t learn about himself, or goes through a revelation. So he remains a goofball that’s probably going nowhere in life. Yukari doesn’t know the truth about her father, which was her purpose through this journey, that lead to finding her purpose in life. So instead she just living in the moment, instead of the future. Mitsuru not only has to stay a sheltered woman, but now she has to step up to her father’s shoes. A lot of pressure and responsibility it’s hitting her at a short time. Meanwhile Akihiko probably “accepted” the fact that his “old friend” Shinji, died as a delinquent, who threw his life away. At least Koromaru got it off a bit easy. He’s probably is living with the woman who wanted to take him in before MC did. I think THE REAL dark stuff comes to these three. Who knows Fuuka forgot if she was still friends with Natsuki. (Which has moved) That’s less of a worry though. Since she doesn’t have the courage she built in the journey, she gonna be the Timid quiet girl who gets picked on harshly again. Ken is a wild one cause it depends when his memory was cut. Was it when he went to SEES? That still could mean he’s going after Shinji. But if he learns he’s already dead, then more than likely he’s gonna off himself. Even if he bought into his mom dying in an accident, he’s gonna off himself anyway cause he dreads the life he had. Then there’s of course Aigis, which says it all. All that build up, to finally have human emotion & courage. Now having to see that reset, where everyone about to die anyway. I think the saddest of all has to be Chidori. Unless she knew anybody, she was pretty alone. She died saving Junpei’s life, so he can live on. Her persona even fuses with his. Only to have that wiped from his memory. So not only she died in the Dark Hour. She dies in vain since The Fall gonna happen anyway. Worst of all, she faces the worst kind of death. One where you truly die once the world no longer remembers you. Altlas really knows how to get people thinking with these endings.
I like how the whole game is like filmed from a projector, like a retrospective of the past. When they eventually do a p4 remake, it would be cool if they did the same but with prerecorded tv channel
One thing, I like about P3 bad ending is that on the surface it doesn't really look like a bad ending, but when you look deeper into it, the ending is really dark. After all, everyone loses their memories except for Aigis who can't really do anything to stop her friends from dying to Nyx
In a way it’s even sadder. He met her unrelated to the dark hour before while wandering the streets. So if he does remember her, it’s only as “that weird girl I saw draw a while ago. Pretty hot tho”
The fun thing is, at least the song isnt the Memories of You, which was making creepy the bad ending, and now, Atlus puts the *Tartarus Exploration Reprise (i dont know if that was the track) meaning YOU screw up the chance to defeat Nyx because you killed Ryoji in order to see your friends for the last time before the fall.*
I just noticed that in the true ending, the protagonist gets to live until 5th March. So he literally gave his life to be with his friends for one more day. Besides all the other important messages this game has, this one is a minor, but beautiful details, which shows how important these bonds are.
I never got that, I felt like Minato (yes I like that better) just fell asleep, nowhere in any of that did I get "oh he died" I'm like, never told explicitly that, I'm told that I will save the world by defeating Nyx, ok sweet, now that that's done I'm having a nice nap on the roof until my friends come up. It wasn't until later I read I died and I'm like "what? HOW?" I like my own version of events and that's MY canon ending. Not touching The Answer.
@@Kazeromaru The great seal costs all of his life. His fatigue in the epilogue is a result of that as he holds on until March 5th. You can head canon what you want for the game but you are kind of ignoring the themes of the game ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That remembers me when I first played FES. I like how both endings are not so obvious. This one feels like a good ending all around, but they keep some touches, like the music, to keep things eerie. The good ending has the protagonist dying, and yet, people back then finished the game and would only find out years after. I like how in both endings are death, but its almost hidden in a creepy sort of way in this one, and its hidden in a poetic kinda way in the true ending.
Yeah Nah i’m glad I picked to keep that dude alive. Oh my God they don’t even remember each other. I’m still on my first play through but seeing the alternate route is so crazy.
She could definitely try but why? The person who she trusted and wanted to protect basically betrayed her and everyone else. Even if she still had the courage to go up against Nyx by herself, she would still be ultimately defeated since she has no access to the Universe Arcana
@@thisisspy288Personally I believe she would. Aigis would want to complete her mission. However she would surely fail. Could debate if she would even make it to Nyx, but I personally think she does. Just gets Defeated quick.
@@yusram8182the ending was actually pretty dark because when ryoji is killed then you went against everyones choice to fight nyx. Once you start the bad ending tall the characters except for aigis lose their memories which means that aigis remembers how you broke everyones trust. This also allows the fall to begin because nyx is not defeated my makoto resulting in the death of everyone while they don't even know it.
Its creepy when you think about why Aigis is staring at you, junpei, and yukari when they come to school.....imagine spending all that time and everyone talking about fighting the end to just randomly not remember anything and shes alone, also since she is a robot trying to understand humans she probably thought she had them all figured out and this probably massively confused her
Well, actually, he probably wouldn't because he wouldn't even remember finding the culprit yet. So he'd still be searching until the end for a guy who's literally dead already. Also I find it a bit funny that your name is "low tier elf" and yet you tried to say it gently.
That ending os kinda sad, but Atlus could have gone far Imagine if slowly, everyone starting to get the apathy syndrome, and Aigis is desperately trying to help all of them but there's nothing she can do, and at the end she's alone, and all humans are gone...
So I’m not reading comments below for spoiler reasons, but I chose to continue fighting and let Ryoji live. I was curious to see what happened with this ending and holy fuck. Really hurts that all the highs and lows, happiness and sadness the group goes through, and on this ending, it’s all erased. By far the most heart aching is when the 3 are at karaoke. Like they’re there in the same room, but they aren’t really hanging out. Yukari the only one actually singing, and the two boys doing other things. That really hurt. I’m glad I decided not to go for this ending, and I’m very curious and excited what happens next
As sad as this ending is, i have to admit that, if this is the most tempting choice, since the fact that this even being the bad ending relied on the gang defeating Nyx in the true ending, its not like, say persona 4, where killing narukami is the bad ending outright, since the real killer gets to live, while here, i'll admit, i probably would have chosen ignorant blissful death, instead of a microscopic chance at life, at the risk of the most painful death a person could experience, the reason this is the 'bad' choice isn't because everyone dies, its because all of S.E.E.S was willing to take the risk, fair enough, but out of all the bad endings in persona, you have to admit, this is probably the best one (from a moral perspective) or maybe P5 has a really cool bad ending or something idk, havent played that yet
On my first playthrough i got the good ending and im glad i did. My second playthrough (to max all social links and fuse orpheus telos) i named myself Makoto Yuki knowing the canon ending was him sealing the door, sacrificing himself. Ironically, i named myself Makoto Door on my first playing due to my cousin reccomending it and saying id figure out why. When i told him i got the good ending he said "i knew you would". I guess the protagonist really is just existing. Its up to you how his fate comes. Although that can be said for any game, right?
Like I said to someone else, I didn't understand that he died at all, I just thought he was having a nap on the roof. Nowhere in the game did it say I was going to die fighting nyx. So I'll keep my headcanon.
@@Kazeromaru if you used the great seal skill when fighting "death" after you receive the universe arcana by igor, it shows that makoto consumes his entire health. also interacting with people on 3/4 says that makoto looks "unwell". he can't be "just sick and tired" as the ending without any explanation other than him dying and only tried to live until the 3rd's year graduation since he promised.
One of the most unusual "bad endings" in videogames, which basically says "sometimes, it's OK to accept defeat." On a related note, Atlus was going through some rough patches (financially) when they made Persona 5. The company was on the verge of going bankrupt; it was the success of Persona 5 that saved Atlus. If Atlus did go bankrupt after releasing P5, this "bad ending" would have hit different.
I might be overanalysing here, but I like the touch that the music doesn't change in the credits, as though the story itself has fallen to apathy syndrome with the player's choice; sure the music could change for the credits but who cares? It's the end of things whats the point?
Random question, have their mouths always moved when their dialogue pops up on the screen with their faces? I thought it was a still picture when the dialogue is going
@@FazPersonaI think it's meant to be a follow-up on how at the start of the game, Junpei suspects that they're dating since they walked to school together. And yeah. The "last night" thing. Guess they followed up on it here.
Would’ve been better if we saw the main cast with apathy syndrome at the end. Maybe throw in a bit with Aigis watching their lifeless bodies or something. Dark but most importantly cool 😎
Kinda wish they kept Memories of you as the credits theme for the bad ending. Mistic just doesn’t have the impact of the player punch the dissonance between memories of you and the context of bad ending hits you with.
I'm sorry, but that running animation for Junpei at the very beginning is really stupid looking. lol, he's in a full on run and his legs are moving straight sideways facing the player character. Looks off.
@@KazumaKuzuryu4162 noooo that kid aint ryuji. Is 10 like Ryuji was in that year, was in same region, has obsession with running and same look. They could retcon it as Ryuji instead of completely changing how the kid looks.
Not gonna lie, but for me this ending kinda more positive then "good ending"... Yes, its kinda selfish and main character and others forget about everything in fights, but they can live in peace...
@@F1areon I understand and I’m care that this decision kinda selfish of me. But maybe I still hurt of this good ending… wishing if there could be another Persona will be return of Makoto and he will alive somehow
@@keegan29Probably not, unless either humanity stops wishing to escape its problems by dying, Elizabeth takes his place as the Seal (which would mean Makoto's still dead; this would just let him move to the afterlife)... or Erebus succeeds and everyone dies for real. So... sadly it's looking like nope, Makoto's not coming back anytime soon, if ever. 😬
@@mauceleste7001izanami: DAMN THAT BITCH NYX, DESTROYING EVERYTHING I HAD PLANNED!!! Yaldaboath: we could have controlled humanity to do our bidding, but NOOOOOOOO, Nyx ruined the fun and left us Useless Nyx: THE ARCANA IS THE MEANS BY WHICH ALL IS REVEALED!😎
I'm glad Atlus rectified the fact that they don't give you the "Memories of You" ED for getting the bad ending. Because that song doesn't deserve to play after this ending
sad fact: its made clearer in this version since the picture is turned to gray and it fades away, but that last frame represents the very last moment before the world ended. I liked it more on fes as it just freeze framed on yukari’s happy face as shes singing while the player knows that was her last moment ever before she and everyone else died
Nah I'm pretty sure it ended at Midnight when Nyx drops down. So the last scene is supposed to be everyone simply living as usual, enjoying their lives, not knowing that the end would be soon. I think this is one of the best bad endings in gaming.
Yeah Ryoji says it will give them some more time before the end but all it gives them is just 2 more months. Making the choice even worse because it amounted to nothing.
Another soulcrushing fact is that the Fall doesn't kill everyone outright. It makes them like the Lost. Meaning everyone will just waste away with time. Since Aigis is a robot and still retains her memories, this means she might be unaffected by this. Meaning that after the Fall, she will be alone and can only watch as her friends and humanity slowly wither and die as zombies, until ultimately she runs out of power and succumbs as well. Goddamn, this ending. Its definitely one of, if not _the_ most depressing bad end in all of Persona.
@@moogcity_2 ofcourse, I said Persona 3 is more mainstream, that's why people think it's ending is darker. I have played it, and personally, P2 ending is darker. But I guess it's fans can't even take a joke
Mitsuru’s speech is so depressing by comparison to the good ending, she loses all of her confidence in herself and is clearly depressed. Such a rough ending
If you let Ryoji live, you at least get SOME sort of chance to pull out a miracle and avert the end of the world when the final boss fight rolls around, hence the Good Ending. If you kill Ryoji, that’s that: everyone’s memories are wiped and you’ve doomed the world to die once Nyx initiates The Fall that spring.
This is a lot more depressing than the good ending. The fact that they want to actually do something and try to save the world but you choose to slay ryoji and forget about your memories are more painful than dying. Thats why every playthrough i try to go with the good ending rather than the bad one
It’s kind of sad to see that aigis regrets that she wanted ryougi to die because she remembers everything, I was expecting for her to reunite them but eh this ending left me empty
its interesting to me how this is like almost the same as the good ending just with nobody questioning anything and the subtle detail of a lot of people not showing up to the graduation ceremony, implying that they had already succumb to apathy syndrome from the fall. I think genuinely the one thing I would change, even though I feel it might lessen the impact, is showing the very beginning stages of the fall taking place. Just like the protag picking the next song only for Junpei to collapse and then Yukari
The worst part about this ending is the people who haven’t played the game saying this isn’t a bad ending. Do these naysayers need to see it actually on screen or did the foreshadowing go completely over their heads? 🤨
The game REALLY, REALLY makes it clear they don’t want you to choose this option too. Like the entire month before this happens, every time you talk to the dorm members they all want to fight
One of the best bad endings of all time imo. All the charachter development gets washed away , the charachter forget all theyve been through , and even the main threes bonds are now shallow as implied by them all ignoring each other in the ending cutscenes. And to top it all off aigis remembers everything and is just left to suffer
Without context this seems like a regular ending to a video game but in reality this is one of THE worst endings in video game history, that's why I love it so much
Not paying Memories of you like in the OG Makes it even creepier and arguably even more fitting. Because by Killing Ryoji, those Memories are gone, and the end comes withyou realizing it.
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A detail i love so much about this. is that this bad ending says "End..." and in the true ending it says "Fin"
But they mean the same thing though
@@anaskashim4952 not exactly
Yes, fin is basically end, but for stories its the end of one story so another can begin later.
End its a definitive end, no more stories
@@joaquindiaz3621 you can also say its the end and thus persona 3 fes dosent happen
@@joaquindiaz3621Isn't it funny that I've seen these 3 exact comments on older videos? (Persona 5 Maruki bad ending and OG P3 bad ending)
History repeats itself.
All Persona games have this detail with their bad and true endings. It's beautiful
The worst part about this is that aigis still knows.
They left her alone to suffer the inevitable.
Not so much of "They", more like "He betrayed their agreement, just so they could live blissfully but ended up leaving Aigis lonely."
@@giovanni1482Do we know if Royji intentionally let Aigis keep her memory? I've been assuming that she isn't affected because she's not an organic being.
@@professionalfurret No he's not that type of person.
No because even when you do the good ending and destroy the dark hour she still remembers @professionalfurret7225
The worst part is knowing that Junpei gets to forget the love of his life , forever
Watching all their character development get undone is just crushing. This is a great "bad ending"
But nah, Junpei forgetting chidori is tho most cruel part of it (Chidori might be alive and with her memory wiped too, lol)
@@M_Feitosa7pretty sure she stays alive because of the flowers he gives her, so without giving her the flowers she’d die I believe
@@superdoodzz probably
Ami this bad ending destroyed me, I thought that in the end they would remember everything but still dying because they would not have the necessary power, seeing how it just ends without further ado left me with an emptiness :c
Yah like I know… like me and Sanada san where best buds me and Mitsuru where lovers lol… all undone.. crazy
20:52 I didn't notice this the first time, but it shows Yukari, Junpei, and Mokoto all doing their own separate activities which represents a shallow bond between the three.
Noticed off the rip & was kinda unsettled by it, shows the drastic change a group can have when having gone through ups and downs & when a group hasn’t, think in this ending the trio is only friends by title, don’t think any of them would lend a helping hand if another of the 3 needed it
I got that immediately, Reload being my first playthrough of the game. It broke my heart. Junpei talking on the phone and Makoto writing or doodling something. I saw a part of a video on Persona bad endings and it I think Reload brings this home better than whichever versions ending I saw with the isolated shots of each of the 3 of them. Shows that even though they were in the same room they were so far apart.
Ouch… my hart…
@@stillamitchinmybook6320 Oof... my balls...
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Aigis... She still remembers... It makes you think, if she wasn't affected by the memory wipe... When everything dies, would she perish too? Or would she be alone in a cold, dead world?
She still functions so she’d be alone until she runs out of oil, making her rust and unable to function
i think she would die too, if we based it on the game mechanic where aigis is affected by insta-kill skill.
@@fadlanfadilah1171 well the fact of the matter is the fall is everyone becomes apathetic, they become the lost and lose the will to live. I'm sure aigis would just be there alone in a cold dead world while everyone else is wandering around hopelessly until they die
persona 2 eternal punishment.
Everyone just dies. That's it.
imagine giving aigis all that motivation and hope for the future and then the next day just ditching her like that
😭
I really like that ryoji never was inherently evil. He gave them a choice. He wanted them to have peace even if it was in vain. He wasn’t happy to become nyx at all. Kinda sad
Since you also got to enjoy hanging out with him as a normal high school student with rich social life. Seeing him fall into despair was sad too
@@VuNguyen-fv5jl Ikr. It’s tragic. He desperately hates the idea but can’t stop it because it was and always will be his sole purpose. He was *never* meant to feel or make friends or truly be around humanity but he was. He was and he saw the beauty of it, even if it’s often covered in cruelty. He saw the good and hated that he had to destroy it too
@@danalynch118 Yea quite unfortunate. Also nice pfp dawg 🫡
@@k0dori You too. Sou fan?
@@danalynch118 you already know 🗣️
The fact that this whole time Aigis must be on the roof waiting for them, realising no ones coming because they forgot everything is heart-breaking
I just realized this scene is in the opening, her standing alone gazing out at the turbines…
@@harland1383Uuuh, no. It's Fuuka.
Why would she be waiting tho? They haven't made the promise yet in that point of the game
As dark as this is, I’m glad they kept this one, especially the karaoke part. It symbolizes blissful ignorance as well as happiness, and… not knowing that the world will end at anytime. ANY… time. Gives me the chills thinking about it.😬
How is that even dark? I dont see nowhere chills about that its just literally looks bland to me not to mention with that movie cutscene at the end where its like anime scene lmao
@@yusram8182 ah I see you took the blissful ignorance very well
@@yusram8182Mans didn't even play the game.
@@yusram8182someone always has to complain guess it was your turn
@@deductionsdiary105 well whatever u want to say if thats makes u feel better so much
🤣🤣🤣🤣
And then nothing happens and you learn that Ryoji was just a smart kid who loved pranks
I wish 😭
If ONLY 😔😭
I mean... Getting yourself killed doesn't sound really smart
@@etherealhatredhe was really committed to the bit
@beenguy5887He was killed with a Persona they will never know how it was truly done
The fact that Mitsuru doesn't remember how her father died hurts so bad. Makes you wonder if Akihiko now believes Shinji was killed in a gang fight.
I think while in the part that you can talk with everyone in the true ending, if you saw all the linked episodes with akihiko, he mentions a friend dying and that he has a feeling that he is forgetting something important, before remembering everything in the 5th, basically yeah, he probably thinks that's how he died
He likely does believe that, judging by the comment he makes in a good ending, before everybody remembers the promise.
@@ROB1N2401what comment did he make?
Werent strega technically a gang?
@@stillamitchinmybook6320 He says something like, "hey, do you remember shinji?" And then he explains that he died in an incident, possibly referring to a gang fight or something like that, then he says that he feels like he is forgetting something
The thing I love about this version of the bad ending is how you can actively tell this is the bad ending by how mistic is the end credits music
That, and how it says "ending" instead of "finished" or something like that
because it's a version of the Tartarus music, which is meant to sound mystical and ominous
@@winterbonnie_8you can just tell who is a Persona fan and who is just watching the videos don't you think?
Yeah. They learned from Persona 4 and 5 on how to use bad ending music. In the OG, they just reused the good ending credits which were very unfitting.
@@MariusBoss11458 I kind of liked it in FES when they used Memories of You because it made it feel unsettling especially on that final shot of Yukari singing fading to grey it was like wow... they really just died that day...
The worst part of the bad ending is the unskippable credits. It's like Atlus is punishing us for killing Ryoji.
Happens in the good ending too, it's just unskippable regardless
Assassin creed 3 Xbox 360 version flash backs
@@drewpollard19 atleast the good ending had the great song
Loool like the other person said, its unskippable even in the good ending. I like to think they forced the credits cause everyone deserves unskippable recognition for the masterpiece of a game they've made together
@@vihangasilva you know what's weird is that in the original they played the same song for both like "good job doing the wrong thing here's your j pop"
@6:15 I love the attention to detail they have in there. In the bad ending, Aigis’ name is “Girl,” indicating that you, the MC, don’t remember who she is, whereas in the good ending, they kept her name.
I can guarantee that people who say that this isn’t a bad ending literally did not play the game which is usually 90% the case with most Persona fans.
What part of Ryoji saying that by killing him, the inevitable is delayed and they can live peacefully did you guys not understand? THE WORLD IS STILL GOING TO END! LOL!
Everyone’s memories gets wiped out except for Aigis and they go on peacefully without knowing the tragedy that will befall on the world.
I think many are people who have either not played the game or persona 5 fans confused by the Maruki ending where the cast gets live in ignorance but happy forever, while in persona 3 reload the cast gets to live in ignorance of the world ending its the worst fate as well cause Makoto went against the casts wishes of wanting to fight Nyx and chose to accept death anyways.
@@noone-xd6ie I'm 100% sure the ones confused by the Maruki ending are the same type of people who get confused by this. Like those look great in any other context but not in those. In P5R you strip people out of their will to think for themselves. In P3 you literally sentence yourself to a nice death.
I haven't played the game and i undersrand the world's about to end
@mrex666productions7
Yeah but there are pretty serious differences. They're both bad ends within the context of the games themes but Maruki's end feels like an actual choice. The point of persona 5 is to accept the crushing blows of reality and use what agency you have to grow beyond them. But not everyone has the power the phantom thieves do. You have the option to erase the pain of victims like Shiho or those extorted and forced into the sex trade by Kaneshiro and give those people happy lives. That's something you can't really gloss over as easily as p3's bad end.
@@LordAlbrecht You don't need literal power like the Phantom Thieves to make stuff better for yourself.
You just need the power to move on with yourself and let go of the pain, but never forget it.
the fact that koromaru would be canonically dead in this timeline sucks
nah everything still happened, they just dont remember why they have a dog at their dorm
I always liked to believe that the moment the scene ends and the End label comes up, is the exact moment The Fall occurs. All life ends in an instant, while everyone is blissfully unaware that the end has come for them.
Honestly, I think that might actually be the case cause of how gray everything looks and how when the word “end” comes up everything freezes
The music is such a nice touch. It’s eerie in a subtle way.
The way it awkwardly ends is so sickening. It sort of felt like that was the very instant the world ended. There was no fade to black between choices and there was no warning. It was instant annihilation of all life. We don't even get to make a choice. We are forced to watch with zero say in the matter. No longer the master of our own fate, the journey is over and we are forced to watch
Probably something the OG’s felt already, but man there’s so much layer that make this bad ending hit. On the surface everyone resuming everyday life, until the fall happens. Simple enough. It’s looking at the character RESETS that sets a reality. Let’s say the fall happens in another 5 or 10 years. What will happen?
The main trio are just “High school buddies.” Once come adult life, they’ll easy drift apart, and forget about each other. Main character stays an isolated blank state. Junpei doesn’t learn about himself, or goes through a revelation. So he remains a goofball that’s probably going nowhere in life. Yukari doesn’t know the truth about her father, which was her purpose through this journey, that lead to finding her purpose in life. So instead she just living in the moment, instead of the future.
Mitsuru not only has to stay a sheltered woman, but now she has to step up to her father’s shoes. A lot of pressure and responsibility it’s hitting her at a short time. Meanwhile Akihiko probably “accepted” the fact that his “old friend” Shinji, died as a delinquent, who threw his life away. At least Koromaru got it off a bit easy. He’s probably is living with the woman who wanted to take him in before MC did.
I think THE REAL dark stuff comes to these three. Who knows Fuuka forgot if she was still friends with Natsuki. (Which has moved) That’s less of a worry though. Since she doesn’t have the courage she built in the journey, she gonna be the Timid quiet girl who gets picked on harshly again. Ken is a wild one cause it depends when his memory was cut. Was it when he went to SEES? That still could mean he’s going after Shinji. But if he learns he’s already dead, then more than likely he’s gonna off himself. Even if he bought into his mom dying in an accident, he’s gonna off himself anyway cause he dreads the life he had.
Then there’s of course Aigis, which says it all. All that build up, to finally have human emotion & courage. Now having to see that reset, where everyone about to die anyway. I think the saddest of all has to be Chidori. Unless she knew anybody, she was pretty alone. She died saving Junpei’s life, so he can live on. Her persona even fuses with his. Only to have that wiped from his memory. So not only she died in the Dark Hour. She dies in vain since The Fall gonna happen anyway. Worst of all, she faces the worst kind of death. One where you truly die once the world no longer remembers you.
Altlas really knows how to get people thinking with these endings.
Damn bro wrote an entire novel
Oh it's even worse than that; the Fall doesn't happen in another 5-10 years, it strikes that spring D:
I like how the whole game is like filmed from a projector, like a retrospective of the past. When they eventually do a p4 remake, it would be cool if they did the same but with prerecorded tv channel
One thing, I like about P3 bad ending is that on the surface it doesn't really look like a bad ending, but when you look deeper into it, the ending is really dark. After all, everyone loses their memories except for Aigis who can't really do anything to stop her friends from dying to Nyx
Realizing them forgetting everything about the dark hour probably ment Junpei would have forgotten Chidori as well ..... oughghhhhhhhhh
In a way it’s even sadder. He met her unrelated to the dark hour before while wandering the streets.
So if he does remember her, it’s only as “that weird girl I saw draw a while ago. Pretty hot tho”
Oh I’m so happy that they didn’t play Kimi no Kioku in this ending like they did in the original
yeah because there are no “memories” anymore
Judging by the comments people have either not played this game or were not paying attention.
This reminds me that makoto just has bad luck either he dies in the other world timelime ( aka innocent sin) or he dies in P3....
Wait he's in innocent sin?
@garytaylor8193 not physically shown but during the events of innocent sin he was still a kid around around 6-10 years old
The fun thing is, at least the song isnt the Memories of You, which was making creepy the bad ending, and now, Atlus puts the *Tartarus Exploration Reprise (i dont know if that was the track) meaning YOU screw up the chance to defeat Nyx because you killed Ryoji in order to see your friends for the last time before the fall.*
Man, this feels depressing and bleak, in a weird sort of way, especially the music.
That’s the point.
I appreciate they made a proper bad ending credit for this one
I just noticed that in the true ending, the protagonist gets to live until 5th March. So he literally gave his life to be with his friends for one more day. Besides all the other important messages this game has, this one is a minor, but beautiful details, which shows how important these bonds are.
I never got that, I felt like Minato (yes I like that better) just fell asleep, nowhere in any of that did I get "oh he died"
I'm like, never told explicitly that, I'm told that I will save the world by defeating Nyx, ok sweet, now that that's done I'm having a nice nap on the roof until my friends come up.
It wasn't until later I read I died and I'm like "what? HOW?"
I like my own version of events and that's MY canon ending. Not touching The Answer.
@@Kazeromaru The great seal costs all of his life. His fatigue in the epilogue is a result of that as he holds on until March 5th. You can head canon what you want for the game but you are kind of ignoring the themes of the game ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That remembers me when I first played FES.
I like how both endings are not so obvious. This one feels like a good ending all around, but they keep some touches, like the music, to keep things eerie.
The good ending has the protagonist dying, and yet, people back then finished the game and would only find out years after. I like how in both endings are death, but its almost hidden in a creepy sort of way in this one, and its hidden in a poetic kinda way in the true ending.
Yeah Nah i’m glad I picked to keep that dude alive. Oh my God they don’t even remember each other. I’m still on my first play through but seeing the alternate route is so crazy.
don't u guys think Aigis will fight nyx alone? because only her remember everything :(
She could definitely try but why? The person who she trusted and wanted to protect basically betrayed her and everyone else. Even if she still had the courage to go up against Nyx by herself, she would still be ultimately defeated since she has no access to the Universe Arcana
@@thisisspy288Personally I believe she would. Aigis would want to complete her mission. However she would surely fail. Could debate if she would even make it to Nyx, but I personally think she does. Just gets Defeated quick.
MC: “I’m sorry Ryoji, but I’ve made my decision to kill you… 😔”
The gang after school: 🕺💃🕺🪩👩🎤🎶🎵
Aigis: 😭
I'm only watching this, because I don't plan on choosing this option. Ever.
What a dark ending😨
Being happy without knowing the world will end at any time? Yeah.😬
it was ok not even dark
😂😂😂😂
@@yusram8182 you don't know the full thing then
@@darktyrantkingsonicofhell8117 and i dont even know what u talked
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@yusram8182the ending was actually pretty dark because when ryoji is killed then you went against everyones choice to fight nyx. Once you start the bad ending tall the characters except for aigis lose their memories which means that aigis remembers how you broke everyones trust. This also allows the fall to begin because nyx is not defeated my makoto resulting in the death of everyone while they don't even know it.
Its creepy when you think about why Aigis is staring at you, junpei, and yukari when they come to school.....imagine spending all that time and everyone talking about fighting the end to just randomly not remember anything and shes alone, also since she is a robot trying to understand humans she probably thought she had them all figured out and this probably massively confused her
The og has that song from the true ending but they didn’t put it in the reload bad ending though
So if everyone lost their memories and character development, then Ken will commit...you know...end his life. This is dark.
I mean that part is irrelevant. The entire world is ending.
@@luism8130 "no one cares about you Ken."
Well, actually, he probably wouldn't because he wouldn't even remember finding the culprit yet. So he'd still be searching until the end for a guy who's literally dead already.
Also I find it a bit funny that your name is "low tier elf" and yet you tried to say it gently.
@@lasiace well, this game teach me to not persona 3 yourself coz your life is a 100% more valuable than a summer ant, lol.
@@Low_Tier_Elfjust say suicide
That ending os kinda sad, but Atlus could have gone far
Imagine if slowly, everyone starting to get the apathy syndrome, and Aigis is desperately trying to help all of them but there's nothing she can do, and at the end she's alone, and all humans are gone...
So I’m not reading comments below for spoiler reasons, but I chose to continue fighting and let Ryoji live. I was curious to see what happened with this ending and holy fuck.
Really hurts that all the highs and lows, happiness and sadness the group goes through, and on this ending, it’s all erased. By far the most heart aching is when the 3 are at karaoke. Like they’re there in the same room, but they aren’t really hanging out. Yukari the only one actually singing, and the two boys doing other things. That really hurt.
I’m glad I decided not to go for this ending, and I’m very curious and excited what happens next
As sad as this ending is, i have to admit that, if this is the most tempting choice, since the fact that this even being the bad ending relied on the gang defeating Nyx in the true ending, its not like, say persona 4, where killing narukami is the bad ending outright, since the real killer gets to live, while here, i'll admit, i probably would have chosen ignorant blissful death, instead of a microscopic chance at life, at the risk of the most painful death a person could experience, the reason this is the 'bad' choice isn't because everyone dies, its because all of S.E.E.S was willing to take the risk, fair enough, but out of all the bad endings in persona, you have to admit, this is probably the best one (from a moral perspective) or maybe P5 has a really cool bad ending or something idk, havent played that yet
On my first playthrough i got the good ending and im glad i did. My second playthrough (to max all social links and fuse orpheus telos) i named myself Makoto Yuki knowing the canon ending was him sealing the door, sacrificing himself. Ironically, i named myself Makoto Door on my first playing due to my cousin reccomending it and saying id figure out why. When i told him i got the good ending he said "i knew you would". I guess the protagonist really is just existing. Its up to you how his fate comes. Although that can be said for any game, right?
Like I said to someone else, I didn't understand that he died at all, I just thought he was having a nap on the roof. Nowhere in the game did it say I was going to die fighting nyx. So I'll keep my headcanon.
@@Kazeromaru if you used the great seal skill when fighting "death" after you receive the universe arcana by igor, it shows that makoto consumes his entire health. also interacting with people on 3/4 says that makoto looks "unwell". he can't be "just sick and tired" as the ending without any explanation other than him dying and only tried to live until the 3rd's year graduation since he promised.
@@Kazeromaruthe game literally says you only have one year, and The answer, P4, P4 Arena already confirms it he is dead
One of the most unusual "bad endings" in videogames, which basically says "sometimes, it's OK to accept defeat."
On a related note, Atlus was going through some rough patches (financially) when they made Persona 5. The company was on the verge of going bankrupt; it was the success of Persona 5 that saved Atlus.
If Atlus did go bankrupt after releasing P5, this "bad ending" would have hit different.
Aigis remembers…
Tatsuya: First time?
This is just depressing bruh great ending.
I might be overanalysing here, but I like the touch that the music doesn't change in the credits, as though the story itself has fallen to apathy syndrome with the player's choice; sure the music could change for the credits but who cares? It's the end of things whats the point?
my favorite ending no more persona everything dead.
Random question, have their mouths always moved when their dialogue pops up on the screen with their faces? I thought it was a still picture when the dialogue is going
I wanted to see an Elden Ring style Frenzied flame ending cutscene lol
persona 3 é os amigos que fazemos pelo caminho
Idk which i like more the true ending is just sad and this is sad too so like damn guess im writing my own ending in my head
Yes, both endings are sad but the true ending is sad for the good reasons
This feels wrong glad I chose the right option
Is junpei talking about us or mitsuru when he says yukaris been getting close to a certain someone
yukari and makoto
@@FazPersona lets go head cannon is real
@@FazPersonaI think it's meant to be a follow-up on how at the start of the game, Junpei suspects that they're dating since they walked to school together. And yeah. The "last night" thing. Guess they followed up on it here.
@@MariusBoss11458I think "last night" wasn't a thing in that situation, cause yukari and everyone else forgot about the dark hour
Why the hell would it be mitsuru
Also by getting the good ending i noticed that the main menu theme and background are different is it the same with the bad ending ?
Spoiler alert:
It seems like this Nyx is even more terrifying than Izanami and yaldabaoth
So...this means that p4 and p5 dont happen then
they made it to March? I thought the fall was Jan..?
Would’ve been better if we saw the main cast with apathy syndrome at the end. Maybe throw in a bit with Aigis watching their lifeless bodies or something. Dark but most importantly cool 😎
Oh my... Damn, I just thought of it, now I can't get that image out of my mind. Seeing them like that would've been crazy
Aigis gathers them all up and sits them all down in the dorm lounge, so the group can be together one last time.
That would have hit the hardest.
I remember I actually got this ending on purpose on my first playthrough the reason why I got burned out and just want to be done with this game 😅
Man, you should have saved lmao
It’s a shame the remake lost its moody lighting
It does have the moody lighting tho when you choose not to kill him.
When you reach January 2nd, the color palette reverts back to the original Persona 3's washed out colors.
Kinda wish they kept Memories of you as the credits theme for the bad ending. Mistic just doesn’t have the impact of the player punch the dissonance between memories of you and the context of bad ending hits you with.
makes sense why they wouldnt keep it though what memories are there if they all forgot
So nyx doesn't turn up on the promised day if you kill ryoji?
No, if you kill ryoji, everyone’s forget their memories but the fall will still happen cuz killing him delayed the fall,
The promised day is slightly delayed by killing Ryoji, he says that too the team too
I was hoping to see the end result after Nyx does the unthinkable.
Damn
🧍♂️
I'm sorry, but that running animation for Junpei at the very beginning is really stupid looking. lol, he's in a full on run and his legs are moving straight sideways facing the player character. Looks off.
Realistic ending more like.
**** that ending lol hell no!!!
Honestly, Persona 4's bad ending was worse than this.
Love the remake for the most part, but the original executed this bad ending way better
At least they didn’t fuck this up
Fun fact:they didn't fuck up anything.
@@sorachi8788Fun fact: they did, for instance Adachi cameo or track kid looking like Ryuji.
@@ExtremeMan10 What Adachi cameo? and that kid is not Ryuji, dude.
@@KazumaKuzuryu4162 noooo that kid aint ryuji. Is 10 like Ryuji was in that year, was in same region, has obsession with running and same look. They could retcon it as Ryuji instead of completely changing how the kid looks.
@@sorachi8788no FeMc, no answer, fucked up significant cutscenes such as the Orpheus awakening and the ending
I dont like akihiko's voice here and Yukari as well
Not gonna lie, but for me this ending kinda more positive then "good ending"... Yes, its kinda selfish and main character and others forget about everything in fights, but they can live in peace...
But then *everybody on Earth* dies. They don't even get a fighting chance to stop the Fall. :S
@@F1areon I understand and I’m care that this decision kinda selfish of me. But maybe I still hurt of this good ending… wishing if there could be another Persona will be return of Makoto and he will alive somehow
@@keegan29Probably not, unless either humanity stops wishing to escape its problems by dying, Elizabeth takes his place as the Seal (which would mean Makoto's still dead; this would just let him move to the afterlife)... or Erebus succeeds and everyone dies for real.
So... sadly it's looking like nope, Makoto's not coming back anytime soon, if ever. 😬
The choice of ending is sort of a win win because you either get an extra month to play the game or you kill ryoji nobody likes him anyways
This is not bad ending, it just not true ending. But I'm happy with this ending.
Context. This is the bad ending. Everyone fucking dies
They all gonna died in this ending
Wdym not bad everyone fucking dies right after 💀💀
WTF you mean?!?!?! After that happens, EVERYONE DIES!!!
They don't show you the deaths at the end, that's probably why you think it isn't as bad
Bad ending better than the good one 🤣🤣🤣
No, play the game,
i beait it alr@@Jfray252
rather everyone foret me then we all die supossed to just me dieing
think about it you left your character that u romanced bro u left all your firends when we were supossed to die together that was the plan @@Jfray252
@@shywoomy0003 Christ dude get some grammar. And man how extremely selfish.
The fact that The phantom thieves and investigation team all of them died after this, without having their history started.
I wonder how Izanami felt seeing this
@@mauceleste7001izanami: DAMN THAT BITCH NYX, DESTROYING EVERYTHING I HAD PLANNED!!!
Yaldaboath: we could have controlled humanity to do our bidding, but NOOOOOOOO, Nyx ruined the fun and left us Useless
Nyx: THE ARCANA IS THE MEANS BY WHICH ALL IS REVEALED!😎
they already died long before this
@@yikesforever7611 Um, no.
@@robkilbride9242 I think he means P1 & P2
Good to know that it takes the literal end of the world for my friends to finally join me for karaoke.
LOL
I'm glad Atlus rectified the fact that they don't give you the "Memories of You" ED for getting the bad ending. Because that song doesn't deserve to play after this ending
sad fact: its made clearer in this version since the picture is turned to gray and it fades away, but that last frame represents the very last moment before the world ended. I liked it more on fes as it just freeze framed on yukari’s happy face as shes singing while the player knows that was her last moment ever before she and everyone else died
I really appreciate the grey filter they added
@@hungerxhunger2548 the fall is the name of the end of the world…like it didnt happen in the fall its literally called the fall
Nah I'm pretty sure it ended at Midnight when Nyx drops down. So the last scene is supposed to be everyone simply living as usual, enjoying their lives, not knowing that the end would be soon. I think this is one of the best bad endings in gaming.
Yeah Ryoji says it will give them some more time before the end but all it gives them is just 2 more months. Making the choice even worse because it amounted to nothing.
@@auhs6240 my bad i shouldve made it more clear that thats how i interpreted it 😭😭
When junpei asked where aigis is just hurts. Because she is on the rooftop expecting everyone to meet her up there, but it never happens.
Because at that time, they didn't make the promise.
Another soulcrushing fact is that the Fall doesn't kill everyone outright. It makes them like the Lost. Meaning everyone will just waste away with time.
Since Aigis is a robot and still retains her memories, this means she might be unaffected by this. Meaning that after the Fall, she will be alone and can only watch as her friends and humanity slowly wither and die as zombies, until ultimately she runs out of power and succumbs as well.
Goddamn, this ending. Its definitely one of, if not _the_ most depressing bad end in all of Persona.
Persona 2 Innocent Sin: 😐
@@AscensionCMXXXVcorrection: this is the worst and saddest ending of a Persona game that people ACTUALLY remember, and Atlus actually remembers too.
@@SaiyanElite-gp4vnpeople who know their shit remember Persona 2 for its amazing plot and cast, no need to diminish it just because its not popular.
@@moogcity_2 and people with taste.
@@moogcity_2 ofcourse, I said Persona 3 is more mainstream, that's why people think it's ending is darker. I have played it, and personally, P2 ending is darker. But I guess it's fans can't even take a joke
Mitsuru’s speech is so depressing by comparison to the good ending, she loses all of her confidence in herself and is clearly depressed. Such a rough ending
Evil Yukari Takeba be like:Ew future, thinking how to live sucks
21:06 Photo taken before disaster
Can you explain, m not understand, like we choice to kill ryoji or not, the word be ended, so whats different ?
If you let Ryoji live, you at least get SOME sort of chance to pull out a miracle and avert the end of the world when the final boss fight rolls around, hence the Good Ending.
If you kill Ryoji, that’s that: everyone’s memories are wiped and you’ve doomed the world to die once Nyx initiates The Fall that spring.
New players searching bad ending and seeing the characters at karaoke: 🤔
OG PLAYERS:💀
Turns out the bad ending is just Junpei and Makoto finding out Yukari is a REALLY bad singer 😂
Don't worry, that Karaoke performance is to die for.
This is a lot more depressing than the good ending. The fact that they want to actually do something and try to save the world but you choose to slay ryoji and forget about your memories are more painful than dying. Thats why every playthrough i try to go with the good ending rather than the bad one
It’s kind of sad to see that aigis regrets that she wanted ryougi to die because she remembers everything, I was expecting for her to reunite them but eh this ending left me empty
its interesting to me how this is like almost the same as the good ending just with nobody questioning anything and the subtle detail of a lot of people not showing up to the graduation ceremony, implying that they had already succumb to apathy syndrome from the fall.
I think genuinely the one thing I would change, even though I feel it might lessen the impact, is showing the very beginning stages of the fall taking place. Just like the protag picking the next song only for Junpei to collapse and then Yukari
The worst part about this ending is the people who haven’t played the game saying this isn’t a bad ending. Do these naysayers need to see it actually on screen or did the foreshadowing go completely over their heads? 🤨
There must likely kids I haven't played this game and I understand everyone is going to die
media literacy is important
12:00 Junpei takes away your choice about karaoke like how you took away the group’s choice about killing Ryoji
The game REALLY, REALLY makes it clear they don’t want you to choose this option too. Like the entire month before this happens, every time you talk to the dorm members they all want to fight
One of the best bad endings of all time imo. All the charachter development gets washed away , the charachter forget all theyve been through , and even the main threes bonds are now shallow as implied by them all ignoring each other in the ending cutscenes. And to top it all off aigis remembers everything and is just left to suffer
Without context this seems like a regular ending to a video game but in reality this is one of THE worst endings in video game history, that's why I love it so much
Not paying Memories of you like in the OG Makes it even creepier and arguably even more fitting.
Because by Killing Ryoji, those Memories are gone, and the end comes withyou realizing it.
Thx atlus for not adding kimi no kioku on the bad end credits!!
In 200 years, everyone in this comment section will be dead. For some of you, it will be quick, for others, a slow decine.
There’s no stopping it, so some of us live in fear.
But that fear pushes us to become closer to our friends, families, and savor every moment. That, to me, is magical. This game is one that I will have to play again if I ever get old.
Live life like you can die at any second.
Memento Mori-
He says all that about Nyx and she's not even that hard of a boss fight
You haven’t played Hard+ then, my friend.
@@nukesakuukasekun9050 you got me there.
I also overlevelled a bit until i could get Messiah
@@genericoeimprovisado1287 I was Lv99 when I attempted Nyx on hard mode, the problem? All my party members were Lv65-73 🤣🤣🤣 had to retry the attempt twice and almost a 3rd time until I found out about Armageddon theurgy
@@nukesakuukasekun9050 i always let Armageddon for her last form
Boss fight that's technically useless since it had no influence on the course of events
this ending hurts and hurts even more not seeing aigis, koromaru, ken and fuuka in that last cutscene