Canon RF 50mm 1.2L vs 1.8 Portrait Battle - Is it really 10 TIMES better?
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- Опубліковано 2 тра 2021
- In this one Mitch, Carlo and I compare the two 50mm RF lenses during a portrait shoot. The great value / tiny nifty-fifty F1.8 STM lens vs the highly priced F1.2L USM lens. I also have a quick look at some of the files at the end to compare my thoughts on the lenses.
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Which lens did you prefer? Had heaps of fun shooting with these 3, make sure you check out Tien, Mitch and Carlo!
They are both great lenses. I would go for 1.2 in the only case I work professionally so I can have best for my client
There is a massive phobia that many of us photographers have about using more affordable lenses. The performance of the RF 50mm f/1.8 is more than adequate to shoot with professionally to some capacity. It’s not really until you go looking for its flaws that we find the perfection delivered by the L-series. The 1.2L is an elite lens that is practically flawless optically, aside from the peripheral cats eye bokeh - which I tend to like but can be distracting. Great demonstration showing what multiple photographers can achieve with a budget lens versus a Goliath. Would love to see more of these and in multiple conditions!
Sorry for messing with your camera bro :') Awesome video man so good to be a part of it all!! That 50mm 1.2 is the sharpest lens I've ever shot I reckon!
hahah anytime bro! Especially if you keep telling me where to find everything I need in the menu 😅 1.2 is definitely a beast!
Planning to try your preset bro Mitch! Got the r6 and trade my ef 1.4 50mm to get this rf 50 1.8.. 😀
Glad you were super practical with your response. Like you hit the nail on the head you'd hope the 1.2 would be heaps sharper for the price and I'd definitely agree that for the price the 1.8 punches well above its price range. And on the one shot the 1.8 color was warmer but also very natural.
The 1.2 gives that dreamy look that mimics medium format. That aesthetic is worth the extra cost for me.
Loved being apart of this 😝
Thanks so much again Tien!!! Killed it :)
You looked beautiful! Great job.
Exotic beauty you are, miss!
Love the videos. Keep it up!
Best comparison if seen of these two very different lenses. Just goes to show what results can be achieved with top photographers. Great video 💜..thanks
What a rad space to shoot in!
Good to see the comparisons at the end - bang for buck unless it’s your main lens you kind of can’t go wrong with the 1.8
Thanks dude! It was such a cool spot!
Yeh man unless 50mm is one of your favourite go to’s the 1.8 is a great option 🙌
Ain't no way I'm spending $3000 when I can get almost as good quality for $300 lol
i would say is just like spending money on a fragrance
A $30 fragrance would probably do a good job making you smell good. But if you spend 250 on a niche one, the complexity and extra quality factor it brings can be appreciated for whoever knows how to use it.
Now obviously $100 of a 50 mm 1.8 vs a $2000 one is way bigger of a difference. But remember these are tools and at the end of the day is an investment. The weather sealing, 1.2 aperture and other characteristics of this 50 mm can work for an specific type of job that a professional is willing to spend for
Great video because a lot of people doesn't know that the quality of the lens affects the colors that the sensor receives, and from this it was obvious that the f1.2 produce richer colors. Perhaps this video should also include waveforms from the Raw output of both cams so this point can be made even clearer.
The sharpness difference is huge, when shooting wide open. Great comparison and fun video.
Such a great comparison and the comment about if you're a pro wanting the best. For fun and daily family life photos. The 1.8 will do for now until I have 3k to spare
The video I’ve been waiting for. I don’t even own a RF mount camera yet lol
This was a great video all around. Really helpful info and beautifully shot.
Got to try out the old EF 50mm f1.2 a couple years ago and it's not 10 times better than the 1.8, but it's at least twice as good.
Hard to put into words - because it's not technical or spec - it's the "wow" effect it have when people watch their image back
What a nice comparison of these brilliant lenses in such a nice setting - after changing to Sony some month ago I just changed back to canon because the so much better eye autofocus and also got the 50 mm 1.2 even though I still had the rf 50 mm 1.8 which I love as my on the go lens that I just bring along due to its super light weight ….these brick walls and the light and the model such a fantastic video 👏👏👏😍
Very helpful video !! Thanks
Good stuff mate!
Yeeeah the boyz! 🙌🏻📸✨
I think if you're printing gigantic prints of your work, the 1.2 is definitely worth it. BUT if your shots are for the Gram, FB etc then don't bother because no one will ever be able to tell the difference, just go 1.8.
I agree unless you are looking for the background blur.
@@dbeff Yeah for professional portraits and stuff, definitely. But still the 1.8 is a great little lens :)
@@dbeff
For bokeh, buy an EF 85mm f1.8 and use it with an adapter. Sony has the FE 85mm f1.8 which is incredible and doesn't need an adapter. I have an R6II + RF 50mm f1.8. I'm getting ready to go Sony because Canon doesn't have entry quality lenses. Only RF L lenses. Or use an adapter. Sony A7C+FE 85mm f1.8. Small, light, sharp, with melting bokeh and no adapter.
Subbed. Nice shot location and use of natural light guys.
Thanks so much Scott! Really appreciate it
A very handy video. In my case I could just about shell for a refurb 1.2, but I am asking myself how much would I actually need/use it? I have the 1.8 already and I mainly tend to reach for either my 35 f1.8 or the 85 f2. Would I simply stop using those lenses if I had the 50 f1.2? Don't know. Better find somewhere I can rent the 1.2!
I picked which was which without even having to think about it each time, I do think the 1.8 lens is awesome for it's price point but I think it was a bit disingenuous to imply that the differences were "Barely noticeable" ....I don't know if it's the higher end coatings or what but the 1.2 lens, even at 1.8 has almost a 3d depth to the images
Great video... Question - how do you get around the 1/8000 max shutter speed, when shooting wide open at F1.2? In daylight my RF50mm f1.8 often clips at 1/8000!! the only solution is to increase the aperture a stop or two f2.8 f3.2 etc... But I don't want to! If I lower the ISO to 50 - it just blows out the highlights, looks yuk! (Street photography on an R6 with face/eye tracking is so easy, an amazing camera for speed/accuracy, except for the 1/8000 limit!!!).
On my Fujifilm X-T3 it can shoot up to 1/32,000 - I wish canon had this feature...
The set is not good for showing the bokeh capabilities of 1.2l
nice one bro!
personal for me with my wedding photography, I have to get that 1.2. first cause its my end of year business investment, Christmas, birthday present, and its made for that camera with the newest and sharpest glass. im so excited to pay it off this weekend after my next wedding. and its my first 1.2 lens ever.
Oh you won’t regret it! It’s still my favourite lens by far
This was such a awesome day boys!!! Thanks for having me!! 1.8 for me hahaha
Thanks so much for joining bro! Such a good day, keen for more! Haha mr cheap and nasty 🔥
@@TKNORTH hahaha 🤍
When you have dark backgrounds that are just behind the model, there won't be much advantage with an f1.2 lens, especially a 50mm. Outside , looking for good bokeh is another matter. Those indoor, dark shots are perfect with a nifty 50.
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I can tell that its sharper, but not 10x sharper. I bring the 50mm when I want a lighter setup, like for smaller events where its really about getting the shot more so than getting the BEST shot. I own the 28-70 f2, so I really don't see a need to get the 1.2, but will get the 1.8 to replace my EF version for sure!
Did you get the RF 50mm yet? i have the old EF version still, love it :)
@@madeiraislander I did get it, and aside from freeing up my EF adapter, I dont see much difference between the EF and RF 50mm. It is a neat little package though, and I use it as a point and shoot
@@mitas3484 Hah pretty cool! :) My EF adapter never leaves my Eos R, i only have EF lenses xD Glad you like it :) 👍👍
@@mitas3484 "I don't see much difference." --Genuine question: Are you not ever shooting wide open?
What gear was the video filmed with? And what type of post production did you apply? Any info would be appreciated. Thank you in advance!
The video was all filmed on Mitch's R6 - all shot in clog. I actually totally forget which lens but I can check for you? Bad memory when it wasn't one of my lenses! All graded using a combination of Canon LUTs and my own colour grading. Hope that was useful!
I will buy the 1.8 and rent the 1.2 if I need it. Thanks for the video
What preset did you use from your pack?
What camera did you use to record the video, thank you for sharing it.
Thanks so much! And my bad I forgot to mention that... Filmed on a Canon R6, Mitch's cam!
@@TKNORTH it looks great, handheld!!? What lens did he shoot with!?
photo at 9:36 ? is it 50 1.2 or 85 1.2 ????
The f/1.2 L really shines in low low light. I shoot in many dimly-lit rooms and the extra two-three stops you get with the faster lens is where the 10X in price is showcased.
I agree! This is the lens I own out of the two, shines at weddings for me! Although for me also because of the sharpness wide open, such a great lens. I could be wrong but I think f1.2 vs f1.8 is actually only just over one stop difference (1.2 stops on calculations I've seen). Still a decent difference of course, but actually less than I thought!
Just one extra stop mate, one
Hi. I do consider buying 1.8. Just wondering if it would do the job with the Canon EOS R camera which doesn't have IS? What cameras did you use for these photoshoots?
Hi there! In my opinion 1.8 is still pretty great in most conditions, for me you would rarely need to rely on the IBIS, I think it becomes a lot more useful shooting on lenses that only open to f4 or even 2.8 in some situations. Less so for 1.8!
We were all using my R5, however I do use and EOS R still as well!
Yes
The f/1.2 is definitely better, in every respect: Sharper, better tonality, more micro-contrast etc. But obviously it's not ten times better. For 10% more quality you pay ten times the prica of the cheaper lesn. If I were a professionell portrait photographer I would go for the L- lens. But I am very happy with my copy of the f/1.8, which I got for ridiculously 120 Swiss Francs.
My wish is that canon introduces a medium-line of primes with f/1.4 - better than the f/1.8, but cheaper and lighter than the f/1.2 lenses.
Great simple set and relevant comparison video I wonder how the RF would fair against EF 50mm 1.4 hmm 🤔 thank you 🙏🏼
Thank you for the insightful video. In the end, it's the customers who decide the quality of our work or ourselves if it's meant for our hard drive....
I doubt they will necessarily know the difference here. Why? Quite simple! It may be so true in comparison, one optics is certainly better than the other in nuances, however, the cheaper is still sufficiently good... if everything does not help there are still the editing softwares... I did my training a long time ago, what unsettles me a little is the fact that we can say goodbye to photography as a craft soon... everything you use nowadays is already AI.
Unfortunately the profession will have to be renamed soon from my point of view, that's what's happening with many jobs right now... what we do in today's world is more the job of a creator and not the learned profession of an analog photographer anymore... ergo we are digital creators nowadays with the support of AI's... that's fine though it hardly makes sense for me to always compare everything, because everything we buy and use nowadays is good if not even 'very good' already 😌
I love it when he says boss.. very malaysian
The background music and the on screen action / topic does not go together or match the mood of the photos. Wonder why so little artistic thought is given to the audio?
This is the exact comarison I have been wondering about given the massive $ difference
How was you AF focus setup. Did you use eye focus. Was continuous focus enabled
Auto eye always turned on for ports for me and I shoot servo 👍🏼
@@TKNORTH Thanks
The difference in sharpness you're seeing between the 1.2 and 1.8 makes no sense. You'd have to really crop in to see a difference normally. How do the two lenses compare at f2, still noticeable difference?
1.2 just looks more "expensive", sharper, whiter, more "3D", but I wonder if you can achieve the same on the 1.8 with some tweaks
I feel as though the main difference is that with the RF 1.2 you can shoot wide open and get great results. It has character there that 1.8 doesn't. With the 1.8 you risk getting soft images, at least in my own experience. So I end up stopping down to 2.2 or 2.8 and get great shots from there on.
Perfeito. É exatamente isso. A f/1.2 já é totalmente nítida em 1.2. já a f/1.8 tem que fecha em f/4 para ficar realmente nítida.
Interesting !
Tknorth hella valid
Yes 1.2 is better, but maybe not 10x better! 🤑
Looks like you guys are upstairs at Sydney Props.
This is a great video..thank you for making this. 1.2L is lot sharper I would pick that anyday regardless of the weight and if I have spare cash. Also point to note the 1.8 is not weather sealed so I wouldn't feel comfortable with it out at the beach or in rainy weather. This 1.2L is one of the sharpest lens out in the market at the moment and on another video saw it was sharper than a zeiss 50m
Nikon Z 50mm f/1.8 S
the only thing im interested in is the bokeh and at this location you cant show it because the background is so dark. In the nature this makes more sense for me. At this location there is not a video needed to say that the lenses performs similar. But still a good Video with great photos. 2 Photographers are better 3 is too much and to long. Always same type of pictures
Color / contrast seems to be a major difference in these lenses
I do love my 1.2 well you’re gonna have to say that once you spend 3k but in all seriousness your gonna be happier when you get the crazy bokeh wide open. I would buy the 1.8 no question I use a 50 as a lens cap on every camera keeps dust out of the sensor. I would spend the money on the 85 1.2 instead. Another thing you need the sharper lens of you have a R5 because high MP demands it.
Nikkor Z 50mm f/1.8 S, is a cheap lens and sharper than any Canon RF lens. If you use it with a Nikon Z7II, you get the best sharpness and quality you can get for less than a Canon R5 with a 50mm f1.2 RF.
@@user-jw3rj2zi8k first of all that’s not true that it’s sharper than any rf lens. That’s actually complete bullshit. And I don’t care about sharpness I care about character and all the z lenses have none. G lenses have way better character. Rf lenses have excellent character!!! btw I’m a Nikon shooter and a pro photographer.
I agree. 1.8 for me.
Can't lie, extra sharpness & compression from 1.2 shows. But bang for buck by FAR goes to the 1.8.
As a Beginner i must say 1.8 Would Be a better option For me according to Video. Lemme know if i am right...
I would say so! Even for a lot of professionals, unless you shoot A LOT on 50mm and need the best of the best. I reckon the 1.8 is a solid choice
@@TKNORTH Aww. Thanks a Ton. Keep Making Good Content 🤟
bigger sharpness difference in the top left corner
A great example of diminishing returns :) I have the 1.8 NZ$ $400 the 1.2 is NZ $4000 !! Nice images BTW
How do they compare at f4.5 ?
@@stephenwratten9882 Hi Stephen , I don’t have the 1.2 , I was just mentioning how crazy expensive that lens is here, perhaps not to professionals where it would be a business expense / tools of trade. Never the less I’ve had the 1.8 EF then RF versions in my bag for two decades although I’ll be honest it doesn’t get used perhaps as much as it should. Cheers from NZ
The truth is rf 50mm f1.2 is the sharpest lens in RF series.. like ef 135L on EF. They are crazy sharp…
Who edited the photos?? Are they your presets?
Just my photos edited with my presets! We all edited our own photos. So when I was shooting at the beginning. Then when I’m talking over some of the images at the end 👍🏼
You can check out Mitch’s presets as well! His photos were edited with them 😁
@@TKNORTH I actually already bought Mitch’s and I’m buying yours today🙏🏽
Does it need to be 10 times better? If it’s only twice as good it’s worth it if you are a professional wanting to give your clients the best image possible.
whata wild hands ah 04:06 🙉
I got so inspired I just ordered the 50mm 1.8 and selling my EF 50mm 1.2….perfect comparison guys😎🤜🏼🤛🏼
What body was use in this
I sent my 50 1.8 back, complete trash. Even shooting at 2.8, the bottom third of all my portraits were blurry, like every one of them. The bokeh quality is busy and terrible too. Maybe I just got a bad copy but I have no interest in spending another $200 to find out.
Basically its USM lens Vs STM lens 🥱🥱🥱
very very simular results.. i believe the 1.8 made the subject look slightly slimmer
Slight editing and they're almost the same, all that matters is light honestly, especially for a 2700$ difference
Thank you for being honest and making this comparison video. I love my toy nifty fifty (RF 50mm). It was worth the $199 - every penny!
No worries at all! Definitely the better value lens 😉
It's not correct compare both lens at 1.8, the sharpness of a lens improve when you close a little bit the aperture. At 1.8, the 50 1.2 is closed while 50 1.8 not. Anyways, everybody now that the 1.2 is still better. But this would be the correct way to compare both lens.
Sur mes r5 et r6m2 , J ai eu un rf 50 1.8 , revendu au bout d une semaine, pour moi piqué et bokeh bof, maintenant j 'ai le rf 50 1.2, aucunes comparaisons possibles dans tous les domaines, un objectif monumental comme le rf 85 1.2
Definitely not 10 times better but even more than 10 times better, just go and buy 1.2 if you afford.
Definitely not a $2.7 difference.
we litteraly see in ur camera settings ur shooting at 1.8f and displaying 1.2f in edited version.....
Timestamp? I use metadata for settings on screen but could have made a mistake.... Also shot many similar images at different apertures, so could just be that... it's hard to always exactly link up the footage to every photo taken.
@@TKNORTH completely my bad u mention u will shoot some in 1.8f but what throws off if u guys just post besides which lens u used also at which f stop.
I have an EF 50mm 1.8 but it's garbage. Not sure if Canon did something different for the RF. I have so many abberations and vignetting in mine. Fortunately 50mm is not usually needed my case 😋
even in nikon F 50mm 1.8 they suck, so much CA..but my 50mm 1.8S Z Lens rocks, no CA, plus bokeh is creamy..pretty sure RF is better than EF.
1.2 is better for sure but is it worth the price? Hmmm that is when subjective point of view comes in.
I totally agree there! I think it really depends what is important to you and your needs as a photographer, your budget, how much you actually use a 50mm etc etc etc.... will determine if it's worth it or not
Nope...from 1.8 to 1.2 not much difference but from 4 to 1.2 yes.
I think the 1.2 is worth it if you shoot in night clubs
Is the f1.2 10 times better? It is 10 times worse because it is big, heavy and PRICEY!
Canon has done a too good of a job with these cheap non-L series lens!!!
1.8 was not in focus on her eyes so its a useless comparison sadly