Incident Deep Dive: NTSB Finds 'Miscommunication' Led To United Boeing 777 Sudden Drop
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2023
- The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) confirmed on Thursday, August 10th, that a quote-unquote "miscommunication" was the cause of a potentially catastrophic incident in December. It was on December 18th, 2022 that a United Airlines Boeing 777-200 rapidly lost altitude after departing from Maui, coming within less than 800 feet (240 meters) from the surface of the ocean. Thankfully, the pilots recovered and there were no injuries to passengers or crew, nor damage to the aircraft.
The investigations findings were rather interesting and so it’s what we’ll be covering for today’s video!
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Repeating back orders from the first officer, would have made the error clear.
“Miscommunication regarding the flap setting” is a VERY generous characterization for a pilot literally losing control while hand flying the airplane. Notice that once the airplane was back on auto pilot, it flew just fine.
Thank you, very detailed video!
"Sorry I thought you said to go dangerously low to the surface. Whoopsies."
What I took from it was that the 1st officer set the flaps to 15° after he heard the captain say 1 and then 5. It needs to be made clear what one means if they don't say 15.
My thoughts? Well, to me it stands as a warning against reducing the number of flight crew of all commercial flights. Even though this was a communication issue, it could have been a different story with just one person with such a heavy workload. Without a second crew member to trouble shoot, a single person could have easily started to panic, and overlook the problem by looking too hard. I even struggle with making hot drinks for just 4 people, each wanting their own amounts of sugar or milk, it's can be easy to get it wrong, and that's just a drink.
I disagree. Nowhere in the NTSB report did it state that workload management was too extreme for the two-man crew. This was a simple mistake which lead to a near-dangerous outcome, not catastrophic, one which could be eliminated through revising the training curriculum. Pilots are human and humans make mistakes. Not one that the two-man crew wasn't capable to dealing with the specific flight scenario.
My point exactly, 2 crew did better than 1 would. Airbus are working a single crew ops for airliners. I agree with your disagreement. Take care.@@andrewtaco
I think this incident highlights the potential for human error, as the critical point of failure was a breakdown in communication between the CA and the FO. A single pilot would be less likely to mistakenly set the wrong flap setting, and a fully autonomous system would remove the pilot/technology interface all together.
@@nathanrankin1472totally agree. A simple human error makes a routine take off into a life threatening event. The solution has and always will be to take the human element away.
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The narration says the captain had 5000 hours on the 777, but the report on screen says the captain had 500 hours on 'this make and model' (presumably the 777). I guess this is an error?
25,000 combined hours 😳
Why are some of the planes in the video 767s?
I’m guessing it’s just footage of the airline or other aircraft so it doesn’t get boring.
hmm but the 767 and 777 look so similar, one is just smaller than the other@@CranehawkPilot
UNITED IS A SHITTY AIRLINES ANYWAYS NEVER HAD GOOD EXPERIENCE WITH THEM
Im glad noone was hurt, but my god I bet some pants were soiled
Uhm turn me around and let me off, thanks.