When I first started watching the Gypsy weddings, I couldn't understand when they said that many businesses wouldn't work with the Gypsies, and wouldn't rent venues to them. I fully understand it now.
They are vile scum. Insulting someone who is trying to teach them viable skills when they can't even read or write is pretty damn disgusting. They are a product of the nonforking family tree they fell out of.
I work in a 4* hotel and we let them stay. Every group is different we've had groups just be loud, sound and respect ppl around them. I've had a lad give me a present because we had a laugh with eachother because I'm gay and I kept saying he fancies me* cause he kept winking😂 so i moved him to a nicer floor
@@mrkalnbr0134 True, every group is different. It's a Confirmation Bias thing with Gaje (Country People) like the Full Moon Thing: Since there aren't many Gypsies, whenever they cause trouble, THAT'S what people remember. Whereas when Country People cause trouble, it's less noticeable because there have been more Country People, and therefore it's a bigger sample size. Full Moon Thing: Lots of emergency workers believe people get craziest during full moons because they NOTICE people's craziness when there's a full moon. However, when you examine the statistics, there's no correlation. I'm part Romany Gypsy but only on one side of my biological family; so I've seen good people and horrible people amongst both Gypsies and Gaje. There's good and bad in every demographic.
@@torkakarshiro5170 Could trash a good reputation if she’s not careful though - the only girl trying hard and taking it seriously is being relentlessly harassed. Not a good advert for Thelma’s working environment. (I truly admire what Thelma is doing here, BTW.)
I think I've had enough of Victoria, her big mouth and the constant "You're dead" threats. She's a big disruptive bully.For the life of me, I can't see why Thelma didn't sack her. Being trained in that workplace is a privilege. If she can't pull herself together, she doesn't deserve to be there. Lord knows how many others she's bullied for the last 10 years. I also don't understand how Thelma can start all this and then bugger off for two weeks leaving her staff to cope.
@@daniburke9452 Thelma brings it all on herself. These girls have no respect for anyone else and never will. I lived beside 5 traveler families years ago and let me tell you EVERY one of them will rob you.
Bless Thelma to think of an allround education for these girls. Who else would realise that just the sewing is not enough, yes these girls need litracy and numeracy skills. Smart woman. in this day and age she realises that whats important.
Their morals are so confusing! They don’t talk about sex but they can fight and swear? Fighting and prison is way worse than talking about something natural! Plus they all have big families, they obviously know where babies come from🤣
Yes and where are their parents if they're watching their brothers and sisters what are their parents doing like it's so confusing are they married themselves but I thought they wasn't married it's just it's so confusing it's very confusing
They have no respect at all no matter what there age is. I definitely think there were other girls that would have been more deserving in the interviews.
She said Margret was her star pupil on the first day before anyone else turned up but that’s favouritism because they hadn’t even started working yet and she’s been one of the worst behaved girls
I'm hoping the girls realize professional behavior ,willing autitude, and humble appreciation will help move them forward. I would give my Eye teeth for a chance like this! This is a real blessing. Looks like the one girl who is taking it seriously is being attacked for her real effort. I hope she powers through the jealous behaviour of her fellow students. Rock it lady's. GOD BLESS MUCH LOVE
@@mtimm9023 aw no! She deserves a chance to do this without being around other bullies! There's hope for that girl, and I hope she is doing well these days!
If I was one of Themas regular crew I would be kinda pissed she just left me with these crazy girls to take care of. She left for 2 weeks that's insane! She wanted to take this on and now she can't walk away and let everyone else to take care of her mess. I do have to say I love the new tutor Polly! She's so funny and I love how she gets along with the girls ❤️
I was thinking the same. Everyone is praising her for helping these girls but like… she didn’t really do anything but run away? Her staff carried a heavy load not only while dealing with the girls but also trying to figure out the power hierarchy within the workspace with no direction from their boss. 2 weeks is a whole *vacation* and then some.. idk what the talk of Thelma having heart problems is, but it wasn’t mentioned once. If she does have heart problems, she really should have considered her health before taking on a project/something that would obviously be incredibly stressful. She doesn’t even seem to take it “seriously” until she “looks at [her] bank statements” like ??? I dunno man.
This was so interesting. I have frequently heard that many travelers leave formal education, but I had no idea that their day-to-day knowledge, of things like telling time, knowing capital letters and being able to sit and focus on a task would have been effected. This really opened my eyes to what not being educated actually means in terms of a living reality... A lot of it as well seems like a lack of discipline, because the attitudes on these girls feels very unappreciative, when they are given such an amazing gift.
What, just because we haven't gone to school doesn't make us ignorant. Of course we know what capitals letters are and telling the time. Many self made millionaires can't read or write.
@@pattihouston9050 I never said anyone was ignorant…in this clip, one of the girls doesn’t know her full alphabet, or capital letters - it makes sense if she wasn’t able to stay in school.
Also no form training on manners either. Its like watching grown 5 year olds with babies and husbands. Its like watching a circus. This show was always so entertaining.
@@sandralujan1199 I agree 👍. I have 3 daughters that all went to college and left due to constant immature behaviour from other students old enough to know better. Those students where not from the Travelling community, so it goes to show its all walks of life.
@@laraclarke3078 i agree. Itss such a shame that all Travellers get tired with the same brush. The word The travellers and them. There are many Travellers well educated and have careers and there's those that don't wish to just like any other community.
I know "tradition" and "culture" and all that stuff is (supposed to be) valid but I really feel like the parents of these girls are genuinely doing them a disservice. It's not just pulling them out of school and training them to do nothing but basically be their father's daughter until they become their husband's wife. It's like they're purposely making SURE that these girls can't function outside of their community, to the point that no one outside of the community will give them a chance. I've seen in other videos how young male Travelers act too. They may have more freedom than the girls but they still lack certain social graces and self discipline. Using their cultural background as justification is no excuse.
I agree 100% with your statements. I feel the exact same way. It's crazy as if they are living in the dark age's. They are born and raised to be stunted emotionally and live out a fraction of their potential. I find it utterly offensive. ≥﹏≤
It's very convenient for the men to make sure the girls can never leave. in another video they said about 50% of these women will be abused by their husbands but the vast majority never escapes because they can't support themselves and their kids. There must be traveller traditions to hold on to and cherish that don't revolve controlling, using and abusing women...
One lil boy said “push her in the corner and ask her for a kiss. If she won’t give it you you, then pinch her finger and you’ll get what you want” He was like 8-10 years old
Still CANNOT believe that they didn’t hire Grace. She was the consummate professional, and so mature. Talented, calm, educated, responsible, and always tries to keep the peace and take the high road. Unbelievable.
Thelma would be better off just letting people who want to actually be there and learn, like Bridget, do her course. For the rest of them - I'd say - you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. It's obvious a lot of them don't really want to be there... maybe they just want to be there for the social part and to be on camera.
The trainees: scream at each other on the daily about every little thing Pauline and Leann: have an audible argument The trainees: so unprofessional, they could’ve just had a civil conversation smh Literally 2 minutes later they were fighting in the street about who would sit in the front of the taxi??????
It’s not the same girls though, they’re not a monolith, they’re different people! Grace was trying to explain earlier to Victoria (one of the loud belligerent girls) that pricking people with needles is unacceptable behaviour and would justify being ‘getting sacked from a regular workplace, she seems to have her act together.
Wow. So I was so excited and happy for the girls to have this opportunity BUT seeing their attitude and lack of respect really annoys me. I feel for Thelma . The girls are so selfish and very immature
HOW. HOW HOW. Is threatening her to not look at her “crooked” allowed?! That girl looked exhausted and horrified that she was being threatened repeatedly. Victoria is a nasty girl. Absolute bully. NOT OK with me. Get over yourself and be appropriate
Thelma started all this thinking she was doing the right thing but she has been so unfair to her proper workers and then to top it off leaves them to pick up the slack so unfair.
they do it and tell the authorities they are "home schooling " their kids home schooling is a joke 90% of the time unless you reside a 1000mls frm nearest school or a parent was a teacher its a joke
Most respectable businesses would fire anyone threatening other employees/trainees. Margaret and the group picking people with pins was "assault". Now we've got these girls threatening eachothers lives. I'd be done with them. Offer internships instead of wasting time and money on a bunch of kids with no respect.
My thoughts exactly, I was shocked and angry she allowed that girl back after she stabbed someone with a pin. She needs to fire those people immediately or she'll have a lawsuit on her hands eventually when one "joke" goes too far.
I think internships is way better than making it an actual job. Like Thelma said these girls aren’t 16 or 17 mentally, they are more like 10 and 11 yr olds. In my opinion, they are all way too immature to understand how big of an opportunity this actually is. I think she should have gotten young women of college age and older. Wait until they grow up some before u try all of this.
@@gyrlgeorge This ain’t TLC, this was aired by TLC but came from Channel 4, here in England. You get all the best stuff we create, handed to you later 😜
Wow Victoria is just aloud to talk that way and have no real consequences?!?! Shoot if I told someone I wanted to kill them the way she did and it was recorded. I’d definitely be questioned by police. She’s just sooo bitter and angry and I really want to know why.
I’ve been chomping at the bit waiting for the next episode, yes this was years ago. But it’s so interesting to me to see what another culture is like, you are a brave sweet soul to try and help these girls. I’m sure it’s stressful, you have major patience. Can’t wait for the next episode 😊. I really hope they get over there fighting, it’s so immature. 🙏
Something that to my knowledge thats never brought up is if the girls do all the cleaning and taking care of all the children, what the bloody hell do the mothers do? Almost done with this video and wtf is up with her not getting rid of that big bully Victoria 😤 that poor little girl! Unreal
Many families have multiple caravans and chalets. Mum is usually cleaning and doing the washing in another unit. Mum also does all of the shopping and bill paying - they operate in person on a cash only basis so it can be a lengthy process. They will give the girls their own caravan a lot of the time if they are stationary and she will be responsible for cleaning and cooking for herself and younger siblings that may live in the caravan with her. I am an American Roma Gypsy - but this is what I have seen and heard from relatives in the UK, and is very similar to how we operate in the US.
if the girls are cleaning and taking care of younger siblings WHR ARE THEIR MOMS WHY DO THEY NEVER FOLLOW MOM AROUND A LITTLE MORE and in my little knowledge of teens they often do far less then they claim and all tht hair/makeup takes time along with picking out tomorrow's perfect outfit
In this day and age it's horrifying to see young women not being able to read and write, how will they help their children do homework? What happens if their spouse leaves them ? They keep these women down
I was wondering as well if Great Britain/Scotland/Ireland doesn't make it mandatory that children attend school And if you choose to home school them that they need to register and be tested. Why would any culture not want to be educated in the basics. Reading, writing and math are everyday skills that everybody needs. When their husbands are arrested or dead how are they suppose to successfully survive? And if they all live in campgrounds why don't they have an on site school where they teach the basics? Like a one room schoolhouse back in the old days of the wild west? Where are the mother's? They said they need the oldest to watch the youngest. They also said the mother's primary job is to raise the kids. Isn't raising your children include educating them? Even if it's home schooling? I just don't get how a country doesn't make it mandatory to finish school. They are citizens of that country are they not? And why don't they have to pay taxes? And don't you learn how to write, read and tell time by the time you are 11 years old? I am so confused.
@@sunflowerbaby1853 my thoughts exactly I'm in Canada and I believe you must be in school until age 16 at the least. It doesn't make sense that UK doesn't have standard, I was thinking that maybe as they are living nomadic lifestyle that these kids aren't registered in any type of system that would alert authorities that they weren't attending school. I'm also shocked at the way they behave, you don't allow them to get an education but you allow them to act violent and like bullies it's scary to think this exists in today's world. Well the adage of your a product of your environment definitely applies here. If your not educated, you can still be civil and kind, no excuse for behaving badly.
@@sandramessenger2044 I'm not a traveller and don't know a huge amount about their culture but there are laws that children need to be educated until at least 18 in the UK. I assume its like you said that they aren't really in any of our systems. They're also a protected culture so that might play in to some of it
@@sunflowerbaby1853 idk if it was a previous episode in this series or from the weddings one, but they said it’s illegal for kids to be taken out of school before a certain age, but because they move around frequently they can easily escape that.
Thelma needs a financial backer. She also needs helps from the gypsy community themselves. As an addict in recovery, I went to an 18mo residential program. For most of the grads it was the first time ever they were successful in any accomplishment. It was amazing, getting an honest certificate!
I’m proud of u and all for beating ur addiction and if u need recognition for it than kudos but what does your drug addiction have to do with this show or how these young girls act? 🤔 You mentioning it has literally NOTHING to do with ANYTHING on the show 🤷🏻♀️
@@bigredswife4646 the majority of women in recovery programs haven't received any any serious accomplishments or recognitions. Most are there in prison referrals, a lot have no high school. Recovery programs normale last 18 months-2 years. At the end of a huge amount of studying, of learning new behaviors, even how to do a checking account you can receive a GED, a certificate of completion, so much. Even how to cook. I began using at 12. Not uncommon. Now do you understand the correlation? Because of doing what i did i was able to move on with my life, eventually managing 2 bookstores.
Considering this programme is 10 years old I am enjoying watching it again 😂 just wish we knew were they all are now. One thing that confuses me, Bridget went all through high school and got GCSE, but her mum is worried about being around others... I seen more horrific things in high school then I've ever seen out 😂😂😂
She was also "afraid of the country" people when they went to a party in episode 1. Unless she went to an all- traveler high school (which I expect doesn't exist), she had to have been around "country" people.
@@houseofschenck6230 I am guessing maybe because she was bullied her entire time at school maybe that had something to do with it? but yea I have seen so much worse when i was at school compared to nights out
Oh wow, I didn't realize that this happened 10 year's ago. But as I was looking at the styles these girls were wearing it made sense that this was sooooo 10+ year's ago. I hope UA-cam has this full series from beginning to end. I'd also love to know what has happened to the girls since then. (๑ơ ₃ ơ)♥
Lol. I guessed that her mom probably wasn't comfortable with her going out with girls who were bullying her and her being around strangers at night. Who knows what could happen. Cause thier reasons made no sense lol.
Wow this was very eye opening. It never occurred to me that their sheltered lives and lack of education contributed to their maturity. They're 16/17, but yes 100% thisbshowed that many are mentally much younger
I love this show first off. Sadly these girls don’t realize what an amazing opportunity they have right in front of them. They’re too immature however they’ll definitely benefit from the program seeing how much they lack any real life experiences!
You don't think Thelma knows this? Thelma is making a TV show. These girls are meat for the grinder. They are never going to going to survive in commercial or the industrial world. Thelma sets them up to fail for added drama for a great drama TV show. There are no real jobs at the end of this.
I already liked Thelma but i immediately fell in love with this series. As a viewer you really feel invested in the business and Thelma's love and passion for what she does and whom she employs is amazing to witness
What a wonderful kind thing to do, maybe take one in at a time so they can absorb the culture of the shop rather than bounce off each other, gosh Thelma has a heart of gold x
They are only doing it for the tv program. I doubt if a single one of them actually wants a job. The attitude and the lack of education would go severely against them anyway.
This is an amazing project. I knew alot of thd girls were uneducated, but WOW, I didnt think they left school at 11 12. I hope they are able to get so much from this to carry them thru if they decide to work.
If they were in school until 11 or 12, they should be able to read and write and do basic math, but many of these girls don't even know the alphabet. I guess their traveling around kept them out of A LOT of school.
What I am the most confused about is that they aren’t proficient in reading by 11 or 12….or that they can’t tell time!!?! My son is in the public school system and he can read well at 7. I wouldn’t say he is proficient as there are just words he has never seen, but there are other first graders who are reading Harry Potter books. I would consider that proficient.
@@hopesc1345 Yeah you know I wasn’t considering that. This just makes me sad. As parents we normally want our children to have better than we did. I can’t imagine not wanting my child to know how to read and write at the very least…
“If I hit her at the sight,I’ll lose my job!?” Uuummm yes love cause the whole world doesn’t revolve around you and your anger issues. Apart of me feels sorry for these girls that they have been taught that all this violence is the right way to act.
she is ANGRY BECAUSE she is realizing how much of a disadvantage she is at and how if she ever wanted to escape the gyspy world she couldn't she realizes she's trapped mayb down deep inside she doesn't want 10 kids in a tiny and clean incessantly
The impact of their lack of schooling is very interesting particularly the one who had an age 4 ability with letters. That must have a big impact on using a phone, the internet, buying goods in shops.
Thema you are an angel. I would send them home, keep the girls that work. They sit round doing nothing but complain. My granddaughter is 8 and she is better behaved than these brats. You are putting pressure on your loyal staff and this is so unfair.
I get the feeling that the course would've gone better if Thelma had set tasks for the girls. Like small projects at regular intervalls using the skills they'd learned that they'd get grades on. That would've also provided a guideline for Thelma to measure each girls progress and help her pick the right one to keep on.
Damn I loved this show first time round . Plus it feels really nostalgic waiting for the next episode . For a people to whom respect is everything , you’d think they’d show have shown Thelma a hell of a lot more than they did .
I really hope Bridget is doing well these days! There's hope for that girl and she seems so smart and respectful, I HATE that she was bullied and wish I could get my hands on them! Ah! Makes me so angry!!!!
I applaud Thelma's effort and wishes to help the girls. Also girls who want to learn new skills. This training can be so beneficial for their futures. Thelma, you are earning your place in Heaven one girl at a time.
I love this show. I wish I had such a beautiful opportunity. Super wonderful you are thelma I've watched you over the years and you are so heartfelt God bless you
I find it interesting the huge difference in mindset for the girls and their parents. If my parents didn't take me to school it would be considered child abuse in my community. But in theirs their parents actively stop them furthering their education. My parents wouldn't be able to face it if I couldn't read and write.
I adore this show, i found it by accident, and i love how Thelma tries to help the girls. Not to let their life behind as they know it, but to make it better.
Can't wait to watch it. 😍. I hope that the girls will understand that they are having a wonderful opportunity. It is an opportunity in a life time. I wish I could have an opportunity like that with Thelma.
Woman, you are God sent!!!! I really wondered why there wasn't any efforts to help the Gipsy people!!!! They are human beings like everybody else!!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!
"throwing them in at the deep end" - "working under pressure" .....ffs they are sticking diamontes on!!!!! I know it's piddly but it's hardly rocket science!!!
Worked for 12 years as a high school teacher in youth corrections and this woman is diluted. It is good to have compassion for people but we are each responsible to create our own path. Many a do gooder has been killed by those they try to help. They have to have the "want to" before they will make change.
God bless Thema and the tutor and other staff, it’s obvious that the girls aren’t used to any discipline except from their mum and dad and family, it’s wonderful that they are being given this chance .. must be so difficult for the girls to navigate a world that they rarley get involved with, maybe this helped mature them a bit
Thelma gives more chances than I ever would. God bless her for her patience. Some of these girls are so very immature and ridiculous. I wish they would see what a gift Thelma is trying to give them. And LeeAnne! , She has such a terrible personality. Her poor mother. I think if Thelma got rid of LeeAnne, everything would calm down.
A few of them call themselves mothers and act like that ?? Any girl that acts out I’d have removed from the program, simple as that. It ain’t your job to save any woman. There’s no way in hell would I tolerate that behavior.
If I dropped out in primary school, I would be dumb as a doorknob. I started only reading grade 2 books when I was in use 7. I haven't intellectual disability and I'm now 36, and I still can't read or spell. But I am very grateful for the tour messages that write it for you. My 14-year-old son is smarter than me. But the thing is if you give me a chance to learn hands on and show me by hand on I will blossom I am so good in that category that I love doing everything if I got shown how to do it instead of reading or writing it out. These girls should jump and be so proud that the society and silme a is making another effat to help these girls because it is reminds me of my special teacher Bronwyn that helped me and took me under my wing. Roseanne reminds me of myself and am still in the same category today. She should never feel embarrassed, but I know how she feels you feel like you getting judged, and then when you ask for help or somebody helps you, you feel like someone watching you all mocking you. It would be lovely to say these girls actually go to school and not get to drop out because to see how they would blossom in society.
If I lived there, at this point in my life, I would volunteer some of my time to help these girls. I am pretty good at being approachable. I am thankful this is happening for these young ladies.
Thelma is an amazing lady and my heart goes out to her a d her team. She doing something no one else wants to do and that's give these girls a chance on a better future xxx
They're so concerned about caking on a tonne of makeup and wearing trashy and revealing ugly clothes, it's quite sad and I cannot believe that these young women don't know what a capital letter is or how to tell the time. Good grief. It's abuse to not let your child be educated at least to a very basic level. Unbelievable.
Margaret and Victoria are horrible bullies. They are ruining it for the other girls who want to learn. I feel like they was put on the team purely for the drama. No one should be allowed to keep a job if you’re threatung to hurt people.
I'm SO happy this woman is helping these girls 1, learn a valuable trade 2, learn how to read and write and basic arithmetic 3, giving them the most valuable gifts and lessons in life. I can't imagine being a woman in this world. It must be frustrating but they don't seem to know any different.
Why would they disadvantage their own children this way. Having these girls not even be able to read and write is ridiculous. There should be a minimum age that they can yank them out of school. So at least you know they have basic skills.
I understand That this Is Their Tradition But Lord Have Mercy These Parents have really done their children A Disservice...Rosanne is 17 And Doesn't know how to Spell, Read Or Write And that is not embarrassing...That is Heartbreaking 😔
Hay I am just like all these girls I am a gypsy and when I I watch this for the first time I did not think that they would ever do a week because most gypsy girls are all at home or or just does not do it most of the time I just feel happy because it is hard to see girl like them doing this or sticking with the job because the things they do at home or being allowed to go out on there own to a job because in the gypsy world people say it is the men/boys who does all the work I happy to see people trying to make gypsy people get there right in life.
All girls should be able to chase their own dream and not worry what anyone thinks about it. Having a goal is half the battle. You go girl and chase your own dream and if anyone has a problem, tell em to fk off! 😜
Thelma is an amazing woman. She is trying her absolute best. The problems arising are a product of the norm from the Gypsy community. They don’t know any better, it’s really not their fault. The way the girls dispute and “solve” their problems and even the way they face difficulties is all they know, they have not been taught any different. Thelma, lay down the law! Even if you end up with 3 girls in the end. Help those who want to be helped. I already see a few diamonds in the rough, focus on those who want to learn. I understand that the cultural differences are immense, but at one point the girls need to make a choice to adapt or keep their ways. Shape up or ship out! ❤️
if you pay close attention there are signs of mental health issues beyond culture clashes present also there is the British traveler who finished her high school she has classic signs of depression the fluffy dark haired girl has explosive anger disorder along with anti social personality disorder then victoria is beyond just being a teen she has classic signs of ADHD impulsive behavior hyper focus on her projects ants in pants syndrome at time giddiness I was a psych nurse tht worked with adolescents these girls are expressing more than just culture differences they have learning disabilities beyond being removed frm school at early age they are also realizing probably for the first time how PROFOUNDLY DIFFERENT they are frm the general public they knew they were different but not this different and by joining this course some of these girls at some point had day dreamed of running away frm traveler life of being a modern women all though they would never say tht for FEAR OF BEING PUNISHED I NEVER SAID IT and now they are realizing how hard or impossible it may be to escape their life they may just want their own money in a relationship "a women with her own funds is an independent women etc...judge judy" a women with her own $ is 90% less likely to be physically abused when a man knows you can survive WITHOUT HIM he's better " behaved" and 60% of traveler married women ADMIT TO MODERATE (BLK EYES BRUISES)TO SEVERE PHYSICAL ABUSE (BROKEN NOSES ARMS ETC) there are no stats on sexual violence if 60% admit openly to violence to social workers the stats must be much higher
Okay so basically Thelma didn't make a week by week plan, what to teach, who will do what, assign mentors to 3-5 of them at a time, manage expectations because thelma seems to KNOW all these differences since she's all about 'they aren't country folks'. And OBVIOUSLY enforce house rules + give everyone rest breaks as you would always do when you're learning something new - pauline, leanne included ALso Vicky should have been fired for antagonising and breaking house rules. What she does outside of the shop is none of thelmas business
She hired tutors and a sewing teacher.....She taught decorating, busts, skirts, etc in order. It was many of the teens' entitled, childish, paranoid, Narcissistic, hypocritical behavior that held them back. Saying actual DEATH THREATS! No wonder so many of them don't live long and are in prison. It's SAD. I'm happy for the young ladies who respected Thelma. YOU put YOUR life, business, life savings, reputation on the line....THEN critique Thelma.
@@dahliarose8466 it's a real critique. Being an educator and working with at risk youth takes a shit ton of planning, education and support. The girls need accountability, standards, and clear communication. This is a lot harder than you think. Having group guidelines ans giving them new models to communicate when issues come up would be a good start and a clear understanding of what happens if you fight. There is nothing on the line for them. She could have hired a consultant for this ( paid for by thr show) but this way is more dramatic.
@@racheld3035 They portrayed the show with drama to entice viewers. I saw each young lady as an individual and took into account their backgrounds. This was a very arduous task. I do not feel as though these ladies were "tricked" or portrayed badly. It showed the raw truth and that is what people want to see. Bridget didn't need to leave for fear of being judged. She is her own person. These young women need to individualalize themselves and stop grouping themselves together. They need to learn self-soothing/self-control methods. Thelma isn't Jesus Christ. She tried to counsel them, but she can't do everything. P.S. I saw A LOT of Complex PTSD symptoms of the girls on the show. Self-sabotaging is a toxic form of dealing with that disorder.
@@dahliarose8466 Maybe Thelma should of thought of that before taking on so many then. If they break your rules you don't take a break and leave. You let them go and put your business back together
@@Lin_in_the_Bin How would that have taught these young ladies anything? She wanted to give them growth, hope, learn from their mistakes, increase their Cognitive and Emotional Intelligence. If you just give up on kids, that teaches them to give up on themselves. What Thelma did is not for a weak person to do. She is a strong woman.
Instead of taking on ten for six months she should of took on two or three at a time that way less fighting more to be learned and if it worked well she could continue to do that and add on more girls as time goes on but to start off with ten right off the bat on a new program with pritty much five year old girls it’s crazy
Thelma has such a loving heart. This whole project is so inspiring. I wish I was in a position to do something like this. She is doing so much for them and it could change the rest of their lives and potentially their children/ future children. I hope this is something she can continue doing and become a rewarding process for her.
The smile and look of pride in them as face when she got showed the book of work she got right! Oh it was so beautiful you can tell Thelma has a love for these girls!
1. Thelma is a wonderful woman for sacrificing her own energy and money to help these girls. She is trying to break a cycle and provide opportunity. She is amazing. I feel bad how drained she gets. She doesnt deserve all the complaints from her staff or the girls when she is selflessly doing this and still being a mom. 2. That tutor is awesome too. She dealt with the harsh words and issues the girls had. I am amazed she stuck it out. 3. SHAME ON THAT SCHOOL for not helping at all. Their job is education and if they are not willing to help when the girls are actually able to recieve it because of their upbringing then they should not be getting funding to begin with. They take in kids that excel in hard times, they should take in kids that WANT to excel but never had the opportunity to due to their parents taking them out of school altogether. 4. These girls ages are showing. They are children, over 18 or not. I hope that they can learn from this and gain some composure. If they cleaned up their language, participated properly and stop all the drama they would be remarkable young ladies.
I'd be so ticked off if I was Thelma. After all she has done for these girls and they have no respect at all. I understand that these girls are Gypsy's. They are basically raising themselves at the age of 11 years old and their siblings with no supervision or guidance. I think the Gypsy Mother's need to rethink the OLD WAYS and come to reality that they need to educate their daughters and let them have a better quality of life. To become responsible , productive citizens !! Just utter chaos and disfunction at every turn ! Welcome aboard the crazy train !!
@@mrsl8596 if you scroll down, it’ll bring up more episodes, I got confused at first too! Only problem is, the final episode isn’t on their 😅🙈 I’ve just binge watched them haha! X
So crazy to see that there are teen girls out there that don't know they're ABC's, basic manners, and proper behavior. My 4yr old daughter does not go around acting like this! The way these girls are forced to live🤯 I could never force my daughters to act and live this way. The mom on here didn't seem to have no problem with her daughter sticking pins in another girl 🤯😡 also the girls disrespect is repulsive just straight out disgusting 😡🤮🤮
So stressful to watch. I used to live in England and this brought back so many memories of the really disrespectful children that I encountered over the years. Can’t watch anymore
Thelma is a wonderful women! 😇🤩 And these girls are strong and amazing for taking on this incredible journey that will be forever imprinted in their “history” culture.😍 I wish Thelma all the BEST and I courage her to continue her journey of giving back! 🥰
When I first started watching the Gypsy weddings, I couldn't understand when they said that many businesses wouldn't work with the Gypsies, and wouldn't rent venues to them. I fully understand it now.
They are vile scum. Insulting someone who is trying to teach them viable skills when they can't even read or write is pretty damn disgusting. They are a product of the nonforking family tree they fell out of.
For real though. Police almost every time
I work in a 4* hotel and we let them stay. Every group is different we've had groups just be loud, sound and respect ppl around them. I've had a lad give me a present because we had a laugh with eachother because I'm gay and I kept saying he fancies me* cause he kept winking😂 so i moved him to a nicer floor
@@mrkalnbr0134 I'm surprised he didn't kick your head in. Gay & gypsies in the same sentence do not go at all they're totally against gays.
@@mrkalnbr0134 True, every group is different. It's a Confirmation Bias thing with Gaje (Country People) like the Full Moon Thing:
Since there aren't many Gypsies, whenever they cause trouble, THAT'S what people remember. Whereas when Country People cause trouble, it's less noticeable because there have been more Country People, and therefore it's a bigger sample size.
Full Moon Thing: Lots of emergency workers believe people get craziest during full moons because they NOTICE people's craziness when there's a full moon. However, when you examine the statistics, there's no correlation.
I'm part Romany Gypsy but only on one side of my biological family; so I've seen good people and horrible people amongst both Gypsies and Gaje. There's good and bad in every demographic.
Why would Thelma not just end the apprenticeship/job for all of the bullies and just keep the one or two that are behaving best?
I think because this makes good tv. Even tho we’d love to work with Bridget, her non outrageous behavior doesn’t make TLC any money.
@@gyrlgeorge That is probably true, but it would make the main enterprise (making dresses) so much easier.
@@torkakarshiro5170 Could trash a good reputation if she’s not careful though - the only girl trying hard and taking it seriously is being relentlessly harassed. Not a good advert for Thelma’s working environment. (I truly admire what Thelma is doing here, BTW.)
@@lornarettig3215 You mean firing unemployable people would harm their reputation with the gypsies?
Because the show wouldn't have as much drama
I think I've had enough of Victoria, her big mouth and the constant "You're dead" threats. She's a big disruptive bully.For the life of me, I can't see why Thelma didn't sack her. Being trained in that workplace is a privilege. If she can't pull herself together, she doesn't deserve to be there. Lord knows how many others she's bullied for the last 10 years. I also don't understand how Thelma can start all this and then bugger off for two weeks leaving her staff to cope.
Because without Victoria the show would have no drama.
Could not agree more!! Now her cousin is there making her even worse.
@@daniburke9452 Thelma brings it all on herself. These girls have no respect for anyone else and never will. I lived beside 5 traveler families years ago and let me tell you EVERY one of them will rob you.
She's like a human incarnation of the Honey Monster.
Fat bully
Ironic the two girls saying the teacher has attitude are the ones with the worst attitudes in the room.
That's exactly what I came to say. Like the audacity of them, sheesh.
Oh my God I’m just at that point in the programme and why am I not surprised - blaming anyone and everyone for their own behaviour 😖
Bless Thelma to think of an allround education for these girls. Who else would realise that just the sewing is not enough, yes these girls need litracy and numeracy skills. Smart woman. in this day and age she realises that whats important.
LOL yes the very basic of the ABCs and 12 threes I mean you can’t really function without that
In this day and age yeah except this series is 10 years old
@@greensnake20120 really?
Are there any updates on these girls in 2022?
Kids raising kids with no discipline and no expectation, results in violent entitled humans who can't work with others.
As a teacher, I cried when she got all her alphabet right and how proud she was to show Thelma.
Thelma's course may be more effective by only choosing to take on 1 or 2 girls at a time.
That's what I was thinking.
Agreed. Likely 1 or 2 at a time would work out very well!
She should have started with less girls and teach them professional behavior.
Would be less entertaining tv though
I'm not from their, but where I'm from if u threaten someone while at work , well, u get fired!!
Their morals are so confusing! They don’t talk about sex but they can fight and swear? Fighting and prison is way worse than talking about something natural! Plus they all have big families, they obviously know where babies come from🤣
Keeping sex taboo for the girls allows them to be controlled more easily, just like not letting them earn their own money.
They're just putting up a facade.
@@mirandahacket729 they are not. They have to wait until marriage which is why they marry at 16
Yes and where are their parents if they're watching their brothers and sisters what are their parents doing like it's so confusing are they married themselves but I thought they wasn't married it's just it's so confusing it's very confusing
Country man’s bastard
Margaret, Shannon and Victoria didn't deserve this opportunity in my opinion.
True but they were the youngest, it's more understandable. Like Shannon was only 15
They have no respect at all no matter what there age is. I definitely think there were other girls that would have been more deserving in the interviews.
She said Margret was her star pupil on the first day before anyone else turned up but that’s favouritism because they hadn’t even started working yet and she’s been one of the worst behaved girls
True
@@lotusmillington9763 I'm pretty sure that was half sarcastic, as she was the only one even showing up on time
I'm hoping the girls realize professional behavior ,willing autitude, and humble appreciation will help move them forward. I would give my Eye teeth for a chance like this! This is a real blessing. Looks like the one girl who is taking it seriously is being attacked for her real effort. I hope she powers through the jealous behaviour of her fellow students. Rock it lady's. GOD BLESS MUCH LOVE
Are you talking about Bridget? Yeah she quits. Because on an incident with LeAnn.
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@@mtimm9023 aw no! She deserves a chance to do this without being around other bullies! There's hope for that girl, and I hope she is doing well these days!
Yes I’d love to have an opportunity like this, there so lucky
Bridget claims the show and Thelma were exploitative.
That Victoria is so gross, how did her and Margaret not get sacked weeks ago. All the others are being held back by them
If I was one of Themas regular crew I would be kinda pissed she just left me with these crazy girls to take care of. She left for 2 weeks that's insane! She wanted to take this on and now she can't walk away and let everyone else to take care of her mess. I do have to say I love the new tutor Polly! She's so funny and I love how she gets along with the girls ❤️
Thelma is an addict with heart problems. It was take a break or die.
@@dahliarose8466 Oh I hadn't realized that she had heart problems. I don't remember them saying that in the show. What's she addicted to?
Same I would have been annoyed too 💯
I was thinking the same. Everyone is praising her for helping these girls but like… she didn’t really do anything but run away? Her staff carried a heavy load not only while dealing with the girls but also trying to figure out the power hierarchy within the workspace with no direction from their boss. 2 weeks is a whole *vacation* and then some.. idk what the talk of Thelma having heart problems is, but it wasn’t mentioned once. If she does have heart problems, she really should have considered her health before taking on a project/something that would obviously be incredibly stressful. She doesn’t even seem to take it “seriously” until she “looks at [her] bank statements” like ??? I dunno man.
@@kaia6584 She has a heart condition and had to leave due to medical reasons. These young ladies need to take responsibility for their actions too.
This was so interesting. I have frequently heard that many travelers leave formal education, but I had no idea that their day-to-day knowledge, of things like telling time, knowing capital letters and being able to sit and focus on a task would have been effected. This really opened my eyes to what not being educated actually means in terms of a living reality... A lot of it as well seems like a lack of discipline, because the attitudes on these girls feels very unappreciative, when they are given such an amazing gift.
What, just because we haven't gone to school doesn't make us ignorant. Of course we know what capitals letters are and telling the time. Many self made millionaires can't read or write.
@@pattihouston9050 I never said anyone was ignorant…in this clip, one of the girls doesn’t know her full alphabet, or capital letters - it makes sense if she wasn’t able to stay in school.
Also no form training on manners either. Its like watching grown 5 year olds with babies and husbands. Its like watching a circus. This show was always so entertaining.
@@sandralujan1199 I agree 👍. I have 3 daughters that all went to college and left due to constant immature behaviour from other students old enough to know better. Those students where not from the Travelling community, so it goes to show its all walks of life.
@@laraclarke3078 i agree.
Itss such a shame that all Travellers get tired with the same brush. The word The travellers and them. There are many Travellers well educated and have careers and there's those that don't wish to just like any other community.
I know "tradition" and "culture" and all that stuff is (supposed to be) valid but I really feel like the parents of these girls are genuinely doing them a disservice. It's not just pulling them out of school and training them to do nothing but basically be their father's daughter until they become their husband's wife. It's like they're purposely making SURE that these girls can't function outside of their community, to the point that no one outside of the community will give them a chance. I've seen in other videos how young male Travelers act too. They may have more freedom than the girls but they still lack certain social graces and self discipline. Using their cultural background as justification is no excuse.
I agree 100% with your statements. I feel the exact same way. It's crazy as if they are living in the dark age's.
They are born and raised to be stunted emotionally and live out a fraction of their potential. I find it utterly offensive.
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Totally agree!!
I want to know exactly what the fuck the MOMS do all day if the kids are taking care of the kids and cleaning the house and cooking etc
It's very convenient for the men to make sure the girls can never leave. in another video they said about 50% of these women will be abused by their husbands but the vast majority never escapes because they can't support themselves and their kids. There must be traveller traditions to hold on to and cherish that don't revolve controlling, using and abusing women...
One lil boy said “push her in the corner and ask her for a kiss. If she won’t give it you you, then pinch her finger and you’ll get what you want”
He was like 8-10 years old
I'm irritated Thelma is trying to fight to keep the girl that stabbed someone working in her shop. She even called her a little bitch, like come on.
She is a little bitch. Hopefully she grows up and grows out of it.
its for tv, better watch time = more money later
The nail tech trying to keep a straight face when you’re one was going on about wanting to beat the head off the other traveller girl 👀💀
Still CANNOT believe that they didn’t hire Grace. She was the consummate professional, and so mature. Talented, calm, educated, responsible, and always tries to keep the peace and take the high road. Unbelievable.
Right? She, in my own opinion, was the best one out of the bunch
Grace was my absolute favourite. By far the most sensible of the bunch. Nice & down to earth.
Makes me wonder how much Channel 4 could control what happened?
Calm, responsible girls don't tweak the "drama" which TV craves. 😞
She left ?
ua-cam.com/video/2bXP7IJ4ZT8/v-deo.html this is for anyone that thinks Grace is a nice person! She’s pond scum and always will be
Thelma would be better off just letting people who want to actually be there and learn, like Bridget, do her course. For the rest of them - I'd say - you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. It's obvious a lot of them don't really want to be there... maybe they just want to be there for the social part and to be on camera.
Yeah but that wouldn't make great TV would it?
The trainees: scream at each other on the daily about every little thing
Pauline and Leann: have an audible argument
The trainees: so unprofessional, they could’ve just had a civil conversation smh
Literally 2 minutes later they were fighting in the street about who would sit in the front of the taxi??????
So glad someone else mentioned this! Did think it was a bit rich 😂😂
Talk about hypocritical!! But shows they do have an idea of right from wrong..they just choose not to behave..
It’s not the same girls though, they’re not a monolith, they’re different people! Grace was trying to explain earlier to Victoria (one of the loud belligerent girls) that pricking people with needles is unacceptable behaviour and would justify being ‘getting sacked from a regular workplace, she seems to have her act together.
Making death threats is unacceltable behaviour and the girl should have be let go right then and there
Wow. So I was so excited and happy for the girls to have this opportunity BUT seeing their attitude and lack of respect really annoys me. I feel for Thelma . The girls are so selfish and very immature
Product of their enviroment i guess, grim to watch though
All but the older curly blond hair one
These are some really immature girls. They need
They need to grow up before getting married and having babies. This is scary.
What is Victoria's problem?
I’m shocked at the ignorance, lack of respect and motivation of these young girls. But you only can act as you’ve been taught, very sad.
HOW. HOW HOW. Is threatening her to not look at her “crooked” allowed?! That girl looked exhausted and horrified that she was being threatened repeatedly. Victoria is a nasty girl. Absolute bully. NOT OK with me. Get over yourself and be appropriate
Thelma started all this thinking she was doing the right thing but she has been so unfair to her proper workers and then to top it off leaves them to pick up the slack so unfair.
They're getting paid more...oh...and it's HER shoppe.
@@dahliarose8466 the girls are getting paid more than Thelma?? Don’t be silly lol look at her house!
@@fairlyvague82 right! I hardly think Thelma was hurting bc of this. Frustrated, yes.
@@fairlyvague82, her partner has a contractor business. It could be his house, or owned by both.
@@dahliarose8466 You still give consideration and respect boss or no boss..I thought we had progressed somewhat in the treatment of eachother
I am surprised at the parents have not been arrested for not giving their kids education or basic social knowledge
Ano me too anyone else would get took to court fined
they do it and tell the authorities they are "home schooling " their kids home schooling is a joke 90% of the time unless you reside a 1000mls frm nearest school or a parent was a teacher its a joke
Most respectable businesses would fire anyone threatening other employees/trainees. Margaret and the group picking people with pins was "assault". Now we've got these girls threatening eachothers lives.
I'd be done with them. Offer internships instead of wasting time and money on a bunch of kids with no respect.
EXACTLY
Internship
Great idea.
My thoughts exactly, I was shocked and angry she allowed that girl back after she stabbed someone with a pin. She needs to fire those people immediately or she'll have a lawsuit on her hands eventually when one "joke" goes too far.
I think internships is way better than making it an actual job. Like Thelma said these girls aren’t 16 or 17 mentally, they are more like 10 and 11 yr olds. In my opinion, they are all way too immature to understand how big of an opportunity this actually is. I think she should have gotten young women of college age and older. Wait until they grow up some before u try all of this.
Ther young girls it's called hikeing around I don't think that realize it's dangerous
Why Victoria and Margaret were allowed to stay as long as they did, confuses me. Lily Ann too, after she lost Thelma that order and cursed her.
Because without them TLC wouldn’t have the drama necessary to make a ‘’successful’’ reality show, unfortunately.
@@gyrlgeorge This ain’t TLC, this was aired by TLC but came from Channel 4, here in England. You get all the best stuff we create, handed to you later 😜
@@unlokiaThe American "The Office" is A LOT better than the English one.
I love watching this but OMG I wouldn't have the patience to deal with these girls
Wow Victoria is just aloud to talk that way and have no real consequences?!?! Shoot if I told someone I wanted to kill them the way she did and it was recorded. I’d definitely be questioned by police. She’s just sooo bitter and angry and I really want to know why.
she has anti social personality disorder and explosive anger disorder
I’ve been chomping at the bit waiting for the next episode, yes this was years ago. But it’s so interesting to me to see what another culture is like, you are a brave sweet soul to try and help these girls. I’m sure it’s stressful, you have major patience. Can’t wait for the next episode 😊. I really hope they get over there fighting, it’s so immature. 🙏
Me to
All the episodes are free on Tubi if you don’t wan to wait.
@@love_is_happyiness3172 thank you 🌺
Something that to my knowledge thats never brought up is if the girls do all the cleaning and taking care of all the children, what the bloody hell do the mothers do? Almost done with this video and wtf is up with her not getting rid of that big bully Victoria 😤 that poor little girl! Unreal
That's what I would like to know
I've been asking that same question.
Many families have multiple caravans and chalets. Mum is usually cleaning and doing the washing in another unit. Mum also does all of the shopping and bill paying - they operate in person on a cash only basis so it can be a lengthy process. They will give the girls their own caravan a lot of the time if they are stationary and she will be responsible for cleaning and cooking for herself and younger siblings that may live in the caravan with her. I am an American Roma Gypsy - but this is what I have seen and heard from relatives in the UK, and is very similar to how we operate in the US.
Thanks for explaining, it can be confusing when they say the women don't work.
if the girls are cleaning and taking care of younger siblings WHR ARE THEIR MOMS WHY DO THEY NEVER FOLLOW MOM AROUND A LITTLE MORE and in my little knowledge of teens they often do far less then they claim and all tht hair/makeup takes time along with picking out tomorrow's perfect outfit
This show is very sad. Thelma is a dreamer, how can the young women have such horrible attitudes....and their being paid too!
their angry most have classic signs of depression and some ADHD I was a psych nurse its not just culture here or being a teen
In this day and age it's horrifying to see young women not being able to read and write, how will they help their children do homework? What happens if their spouse leaves them ? They keep these women down
I was wondering as well if Great Britain/Scotland/Ireland doesn't make it mandatory that children attend school And if you choose to home school them that they need to register and be tested.
Why would any culture not want to be educated in the basics. Reading, writing and math are everyday skills that everybody needs. When their husbands are arrested or dead how are they suppose to successfully survive? And if they all live in campgrounds why don't they have an on site school where they teach the basics? Like a one room schoolhouse back in the old days of the wild west?
Where are the mother's? They said they need the oldest to watch the youngest. They also said the mother's primary job is to raise the kids. Isn't raising your children include educating them? Even if it's home schooling?
I just don't get how a country doesn't make it mandatory to finish school. They are citizens of that country are they not? And why don't they have to pay taxes? And don't you learn how to write, read and tell time by the time you are 11 years old? I am so confused.
Shocking that these children were not taught to read.
At the very least…,
@@sunflowerbaby1853 my thoughts exactly I'm in Canada and I believe you must be in school until age 16 at the least. It doesn't make sense that UK doesn't have standard, I was thinking that maybe as they are living nomadic lifestyle that these kids aren't registered in any type of system that would alert authorities that they weren't attending school. I'm also shocked at the way they behave, you don't allow them to get an education but you allow them to act violent and like bullies it's scary to think this exists in today's world. Well the adage of your a product of your environment definitely applies here. If your not educated, you can still be civil and kind, no excuse for behaving badly.
@@sandramessenger2044 I'm not a traveller and don't know a huge amount about their culture but there are laws that children need to be educated until at least 18 in the UK.
I assume its like you said that they aren't really in any of our systems. They're also a protected culture so that might play in to some of it
@@sunflowerbaby1853 idk if it was a previous episode in this series or from the weddings one, but they said it’s illegal for kids to be taken out of school before a certain age, but because they move around frequently they can easily escape that.
That girl with curly hair has honestly been my favorite since her interview
Thelma has a big heart but she abandoned her team to deal with those brats.
Thelma needs a financial backer. She also needs helps from the gypsy community themselves. As an addict in recovery, I went to an 18mo residential program. For most of the grads it was the first time ever they were successful in any accomplishment. It was amazing, getting an honest certificate!
There's no hope for it to be successful without buy-in from the community and that doesn't seem likely.
@@ericahoelscher3733 I agree. There needs to bea financial and emotional commitment from the gypsy community itself.
Congrats on your sobriety. It’s a fight for your life. Stay in faith. Good luck!
I’m proud of u and all for beating ur addiction and if u need recognition for it than kudos but what does your drug addiction have to do with this show or how these young girls act? 🤔
You mentioning it has literally NOTHING to do with ANYTHING on the show 🤷🏻♀️
@@bigredswife4646 the majority of women in recovery programs haven't received any any serious accomplishments or recognitions. Most are there in prison referrals, a lot have no high school. Recovery programs normale last 18 months-2 years. At the end of a huge amount of studying, of learning new behaviors, even how to do a checking account you can receive a GED, a certificate of completion, so much. Even how to cook. I began using at 12. Not uncommon. Now do you understand the correlation? Because of doing what i did i was able to move on with my life, eventually managing 2 bookstores.
Considering this programme is 10 years old I am enjoying watching it again 😂 just wish we knew were they all are now.
One thing that confuses me, Bridget went all through high school and got GCSE, but her mum is worried about being around others... I seen more horrific things in high school then I've ever seen out 😂😂😂
She was also "afraid of the country" people when they went to a party in episode 1. Unless she went to an all- traveler high school (which I expect doesn't exist), she had to have been around "country" people.
@@houseofschenck6230 I am guessing maybe because she was bullied her entire time at school maybe that had something to do with it? but yea I have seen so much worse when i was at school compared to nights out
Oh wow, I didn't realize that this happened 10 year's ago. But as I was looking at the styles these girls were wearing it made sense that this was sooooo 10+ year's ago. I hope UA-cam has this full series from beginning to end.
I'd also love to know what has happened to the girls since then.
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Lol. I guessed that her mom probably wasn't comfortable with her going out with girls who were bullying her and her being around strangers at night. Who knows what could happen. Cause thier reasons made no sense lol.
Wow this was very eye opening. It never occurred to me that their sheltered lives and lack of education contributed to their maturity. They're 16/17, but yes 100% thisbshowed that many are mentally much younger
I love this show first off. Sadly these girls don’t realize what an amazing opportunity they have right in front of them. They’re too immature however they’ll definitely benefit from the program seeing how much they lack any real life experiences!
You don't think Thelma knows this? Thelma is making a TV show. These girls are meat for the grinder. They are never going to going to survive in commercial or the industrial world. Thelma sets them up to fail for added drama for a great drama TV show. There are no real jobs at the end of this.
I already liked Thelma but i immediately fell in love with this series. As a viewer you really feel invested in the business and Thelma's love and passion for what she does and whom she employs is amazing to witness
What a wonderful kind thing to do, maybe take one in at a time so they can absorb the culture of the shop rather than bounce off each other, gosh Thelma has a heart of gold x
This programme just goes to show how important education is. I did not like school, but I am grateful now that I have a basic education.
What I would have given to have had this kind of opportunity. My heart goes out to everyone involved in this endeavor. I’m just sick for Thelma.
They are only doing it for the tv program. I doubt if a single one of them actually wants a job. The attitude and the lack of education would go severely against them anyway.
This is an amazing project. I knew alot of thd girls were uneducated, but WOW, I didnt think they left school at 11 12. I hope they are able to get so much from this to carry them thru if they decide to work.
If they were in school until 11 or 12, they should be able to read and write and do basic math, but many of these girls don't even know the alphabet. I guess their traveling around kept them out of A LOT of school.
What I am the most confused about is that they aren’t proficient in reading by 11 or 12….or that they can’t tell time!!?! My son is in the public school system and he can read well at 7. I wouldn’t say he is proficient as there are just words he has never seen, but there are other first graders who are reading Harry Potter books. I would consider that proficient.
Still by 12 most people can read and do basic math. This is extreme.
@@karacreswell8437 I’m guessing they miss a lot of school, even when they were enrolled. No parent encouragement nor help after school either. 🤷🏼♀️
@@hopesc1345 Yeah you know I wasn’t considering that. This just makes me sad. As parents we normally want our children to have better than we did. I can’t imagine not wanting my child to know how to read and write at the very least…
“If I hit her at the sight,I’ll lose my job!?” Uuummm yes love cause the whole world doesn’t revolve around you and your anger issues. Apart of me feels sorry for these girls that they have been taught that all this violence is the right way to act.
It's normal to them.what a sad way to grow up.
she is ANGRY BECAUSE she is realizing how much of a disadvantage she is at and how if she ever wanted to escape the gyspy world she couldn't she realizes she's trapped mayb down deep inside she doesn't want 10 kids in a tiny and clean incessantly
The impact of their lack of schooling is very interesting particularly the one who had an age 4 ability with letters. That must have a big impact on using a phone, the internet, buying goods in shops.
I can’t believe how misbehaved, rude, ignorant and plain bad these girls are w.o.w.
Thema you are an angel. I would send them home, keep the girls that work. They sit round doing nothing but complain. My granddaughter is 8 and she is better behaved than these brats. You are putting pressure on your loyal staff and this is so unfair.
I get the feeling that the course would've gone better if Thelma had set tasks for the girls. Like small projects at regular intervalls using the skills they'd learned that they'd get grades on. That would've also provided a guideline for Thelma to measure each girls progress and help her pick the right one to keep on.
This just shows why these people are not employable. Nothing but trouble over ridiculous attitudes.
Damn I loved this show first time round .
Plus it feels really nostalgic waiting for the next episode .
For a people to whom respect is everything , you’d think they’d show have shown Thelma a hell of a lot more than they did .
I really hope Bridget is doing well these days! There's hope for that girl and she seems so smart and respectful, I HATE that she was bullied and wish I could get my hands on them! Ah! Makes me so angry!!!!
Bridget has a lot to say about Thelma.
@@mariahclaar7915 what has she said haven’t seen anything 😯😯
@@mariahclaar7915 What has she said?
@@mariahclaar7915 well go on then
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I wish to know what happened with all those girls… Viktoria is very weird. I guess if she didn’t change, she is probably in prison. 😒
Thelma is such a friggen legend
I applaud Thelma's effort and wishes to help the girls. Also girls who want to learn new skills. This training can be so beneficial for their futures. Thelma, you are earning your place in Heaven one girl at a time.
I love this show. I wish I had such a beautiful opportunity. Super wonderful you are thelma I've watched you over the years and you are so heartfelt God bless you
Regardless of how arrogant these girls can be, it's really cute how one of the girls ran to Thelma to show her how well she did on a quiz
I cannot image a pro like Thelma will find a diamond in the rough here, but I love watching!
I find it interesting the huge difference in mindset for the girls and their parents.
If my parents didn't take me to school it would be considered child abuse in my community. But in theirs their parents actively stop them furthering their education.
My parents wouldn't be able to face it if I couldn't read and write.
I adore this show, i found it by accident, and i love how Thelma tries to help the girls. Not to let their life behind as they know it, but to make it better.
Is Bridget the only English traveler? I’m wondering if that could be part of it beyond the whole “you went to school” thing
Yeah, so much for gypsy solidarity
No grace is aswell it’s just because she’s quiet
Dude How the fk can't they do Reading writing and math THEY WAS IN SCHOOL UNTIL 11 in the states that's 5th or 6th grade wtf
Been waiting all week for this! If anyone knows what the girls are up to now as this was filmed years ago, let us know. :)
Yes!!!
really? when was it filmed? I thought it was new.
@@debbiejames3096 it was filmed around 2011
I suspect that trash Victoria is in jail. Or she should be.
Yes it would be be good for if they did a follow up to see how the girls continued in the industry.
Can't wait to watch it. 😍. I hope that the girls will understand that they are having a wonderful opportunity. It is an opportunity in a life time.
I wish I could have an opportunity like that with Thelma.
Ungratefull cheeky girls. There's only probably 3 outs the 10 that deserve the chance they,ve been given.
Think she's got the patient of a saint
I cannot imagine why people think a homemaker doesn’t need at least a 10th to 12th grade education.
I cant get over how they didnt even know how to read a clock or know the alphabet :((( that clip really drove it home for me
Woman, you are God sent!!!! I really wondered why there wasn't any efforts to help the Gipsy people!!!! They are human beings like everybody else!!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!
Thelma you are amazing, blessings to you on educating the girls. Most wouldn't care about education I'm so happy that you care about the whole person.
"throwing them in at the deep end" - "working under pressure" .....ffs they are sticking diamontes on!!!!! I know it's piddly but it's hardly rocket science!!!
Worked for 12 years as a high school teacher in youth corrections and this woman is diluted. It is good to have compassion for people but we are each responsible to create our own path. Many a do gooder has been killed by those they try to help. They have to have the "want to" before they will make change.
God bless Thema and the tutor and other staff, it’s obvious that the girls aren’t used to any discipline except from their mum and dad and family, it’s wonderful that they are being given this chance .. must be so difficult for the girls to navigate a world that they rarley get involved with, maybe this helped mature them a bit
Thelma gives more chances than I ever would. God bless her for her patience. Some of these girls are so very immature and ridiculous. I wish they would see what a gift Thelma is trying to give them. And LeeAnne! , She has such a terrible personality. Her poor mother. I think if Thelma got rid of LeeAnne, everything would calm down.
A few of them call themselves mothers and act like that ?? Any girl that acts out I’d have removed from the program, simple as that. It ain’t your job to save any woman. There’s no way in hell would I tolerate that behavior.
Victoria is completely out of control 😵💫😵💫
If I dropped out in primary school, I would be dumb as a doorknob. I started only reading grade 2 books when I was in use 7. I haven't intellectual disability and I'm now 36, and I still can't read or spell. But I am very grateful for the tour messages that write it for you. My 14-year-old son is smarter than me. But the thing is if you give me a chance to learn hands on and show me by hand on I will blossom I am so good in that category that I love doing everything if I got shown how to do it instead of reading or writing it out. These girls should jump and be so proud that the society and silme a is making another effat to help these girls because it is reminds me of my special teacher Bronwyn that helped me and took me under my wing. Roseanne reminds me of myself and am still in the same category today. She should never feel embarrassed, but I know how she feels you feel like you getting judged, and then when you ask for help or somebody helps you, you feel like someone watching you all mocking you. It would be lovely to say these girls actually go to school and not get to drop out because to see how they would blossom in society.
If I lived there, at this point in my life, I would volunteer some of my time to help these girls. I am pretty good at being approachable. I am thankful this is happening for these young ladies.
Well they wouldn't warm up to you (or me) unfortunately. They don't like black people.
I love to see that one girl is born again believer Praise The Lord God bless her
Thelma is an amazing lady and my heart goes out to her a d her team. She doing something no one else wants to do and that's give these girls a chance on a better future xxx
I hope these girls wake up LISTEN LEARN AND LISTEN cuz Thelma is a good hearted incredible person to be helping them after sooooo many wont!!
They're so concerned about caking on a tonne of makeup and wearing trashy and revealing ugly clothes, it's quite sad and I cannot believe that these young women don't know what a capital letter is or how to tell the time. Good grief. It's abuse to not let your child be educated at least to a very basic level. Unbelievable.
Margaret and Victoria are horrible bullies. They are ruining it for the other girls who want to learn. I feel like they was put on the team purely for the drama. No one should be allowed to keep a job if you’re threatung to hurt people.
What a company to give a fantastic opportunity to those lovely girls, Thelma you ROCK😍
I agree with everything you said except the "lovely girls" .
Thelma deserve a rhinestone/ glitter halo for dealing with these girls disrespect!
I'm SO happy this woman is helping these girls 1, learn a valuable trade 2, learn how to read and write and basic arithmetic 3, giving them the most valuable gifts and lessons in life.
I can't imagine being a woman in this world. It must be frustrating but they don't seem to know any different.
Why would they disadvantage their own children this way. Having these girls not even be able to read and write is ridiculous. There should be a minimum age that they can yank them out of school. So at least you know they have basic skills.
I understand That this Is Their Tradition But Lord Have Mercy These Parents have really done their children A Disservice...Rosanne is 17 And Doesn't know how to Spell, Read Or Write And that is not embarrassing...That is Heartbreaking 😔
Hay I am just like all these girls I am a gypsy and when I I watch this for the first time I did not think that they would ever do a week because most gypsy girls are all at home or or just does not do it most of the time I just feel happy because it is hard to see girl like them doing this or sticking with the job because the things they do at home or being allowed to go out on there own to a job because in the gypsy world people say it is the men/boys who does all the work I happy to see people trying to make gypsy people get there right in life.
All girls should be able to chase their own dream and not worry what anyone thinks about it. Having a goal is half the battle. You go girl and chase your own dream and if anyone has a problem, tell em to fk off! 😜
Thelma should be commended and get financial aid from the Gov. who should be horrified that the children can’t even read!
Thelma is an amazing woman. She is trying her absolute best. The problems arising are a product of the norm from the Gypsy community. They don’t know any better, it’s really not their fault. The way the girls dispute and “solve” their problems and even the way they face difficulties is all they know, they have not been taught any different. Thelma, lay down the law! Even if you end up with 3 girls in the end. Help those who want to be helped. I already see a few diamonds in the rough, focus on those who want to learn. I understand that the cultural differences are immense, but at one point the girls need to make a choice to adapt or keep their ways. Shape up or ship out! ❤️
if you pay close attention there are signs of mental health issues beyond culture clashes present also there is the British traveler who finished her high school she has classic signs of depression the fluffy dark haired girl has explosive anger disorder along with anti social personality disorder then victoria is beyond just being a teen she has classic signs of ADHD impulsive behavior hyper focus on her projects ants in pants syndrome at time giddiness I was a psych nurse tht worked with adolescents these girls are expressing more than just culture differences they have learning disabilities beyond being removed frm school at early age they are also realizing probably for the first time how PROFOUNDLY DIFFERENT they are frm the general public they knew they were different but not this different and by joining this course some of these girls at some point had day dreamed of running away frm traveler life of being a modern women all though they would never say tht for FEAR OF BEING PUNISHED I NEVER SAID IT and now they are realizing how hard or impossible it may be to escape their life they may just want their own money in a relationship "a women with her own funds is an independent women etc...judge judy" a women with her own $ is 90% less likely to be physically abused when a man knows you can survive WITHOUT HIM he's better " behaved" and 60% of traveler married women ADMIT TO MODERATE (BLK EYES BRUISES)TO SEVERE PHYSICAL ABUSE (BROKEN NOSES ARMS ETC) there are no stats on sexual violence if 60% admit openly to violence to social workers the stats must be much higher
Okay so basically Thelma didn't make a week by week plan, what to teach, who will do what, assign mentors to 3-5 of them at a time, manage expectations because thelma seems to KNOW all these differences since she's all about 'they aren't country folks'. And OBVIOUSLY enforce house rules + give everyone rest breaks as you would always do when you're learning something new - pauline, leanne included
ALso Vicky should have been fired for antagonising and breaking house rules. What she does outside of the shop is none of thelmas business
She hired tutors and a sewing teacher.....She taught decorating, busts, skirts, etc in order. It was many of the teens' entitled, childish, paranoid, Narcissistic, hypocritical behavior that held them back. Saying actual DEATH THREATS! No wonder so many of them don't live long and are in prison. It's SAD. I'm happy for the young ladies who respected Thelma. YOU put YOUR life, business, life savings, reputation on the line....THEN critique Thelma.
@@dahliarose8466 it's a real critique. Being an educator and working with at risk youth takes a shit ton of planning, education and support. The girls need accountability, standards, and clear communication. This is a lot harder than you think. Having group guidelines ans giving them new models to communicate when issues come up would be a good start and a clear understanding of what happens if you fight. There is nothing on the line for them. She could have hired a consultant for this ( paid for by thr show) but this way is more dramatic.
@@racheld3035 They portrayed the show with drama to entice viewers. I saw each young lady as an individual and took into account their backgrounds. This was a very arduous task. I do not feel as though these ladies were "tricked" or portrayed badly. It showed the raw truth and that is what people want to see. Bridget didn't need to leave for fear of being judged. She is her own person. These young women need to individualalize themselves and stop grouping themselves together. They need to learn self-soothing/self-control methods. Thelma isn't Jesus Christ. She tried to counsel them, but she can't do everything. P.S. I saw A LOT of Complex PTSD symptoms of the girls on the show. Self-sabotaging is a toxic form of dealing with that disorder.
@@dahliarose8466 Maybe Thelma should of thought of that before taking on so many then. If they break your rules you don't take a break and leave. You let them go and put your business back together
@@Lin_in_the_Bin How would that have taught these young ladies anything? She wanted to give them growth, hope, learn from their mistakes, increase their Cognitive and Emotional Intelligence. If you just give up on kids, that teaches them to give up on themselves. What Thelma did is not for a weak person to do. She is a strong woman.
Instead of taking on ten for six months she should of took on two or three at a time that way less fighting more to be learned and if it worked well she could continue to do that and add on more girls as time goes on but to start off with ten right off the bat on a new program with pritty much five year old girls it’s crazy
Why are you making us wait?? It makes no sense
Right?! The episodes are on dailymotion too.
Thelma has such a loving heart.
This whole project is so inspiring.
I wish I was in a position to do something like this.
She is doing so much for them and it could change the rest of their lives and potentially their children/ future children.
I hope this is something she can continue doing and become a rewarding process for her.
Had my notifications on for this! Great series, so much respect for Thelma!!
The smile and look of pride in them as face when she got showed the book of work she got right! Oh it was so beautiful you can tell Thelma has a love for these girls!
1. Thelma is a wonderful woman for sacrificing her own energy and money to help these girls. She is trying to break a cycle and provide opportunity. She is amazing. I feel bad how drained she gets. She doesnt deserve all the complaints from her staff or the girls when she is selflessly doing this and still being a mom.
2. That tutor is awesome too. She dealt with the harsh words and issues the girls had. I am amazed she stuck it out.
3. SHAME ON THAT SCHOOL for not helping at all. Their job is education and if they are not willing to help when the girls are actually able to recieve it because of their upbringing then they should not be getting funding to begin with. They take in kids that excel in hard times, they should take in kids that WANT to excel but never had the opportunity to due to their parents taking them out of school altogether.
4. These girls ages are showing. They are children, over 18 or not. I hope that they can learn from this and gain some composure. If they cleaned up their language, participated properly and stop all the drama they would be remarkable young ladies.
I'd be so ticked off if I was Thelma. After all she has done for these girls and they have no respect at all. I understand that these girls are Gypsy's. They are basically raising themselves at the age of 11 years old and their siblings with no supervision or guidance. I think the Gypsy Mother's need to rethink the OLD WAYS and come to reality that they need to educate their daughters and let them have a better quality of life. To become responsible , productive citizens !! Just utter chaos and disfunction at every turn ! Welcome aboard the crazy train !!
Been waiting ages for this finally! Please upload them daily if you can rather than weekly 😅🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
It's on daily motion as well x
@@maryoconnell1300 ooo, thank you! I’ll give a look into it! X
@@maryoconnell1300 thank you so much, you’ve genuinely saved my life! ❤️xx
@@emilyjane5589 What’s it on Daily Motion as? I can only see one episode!
@@mrsl8596 if you scroll down, it’ll bring up more episodes, I got confused at first too! Only problem is, the final episode isn’t on their 😅🙈 I’ve just binge watched them haha! X
So crazy to see that there are teen girls out there that don't know they're ABC's, basic manners, and proper behavior. My 4yr old daughter does not go around acting like this! The way these girls are forced to live🤯 I could never force my daughters to act and live this way. The mom on here didn't seem to have no problem with her daughter sticking pins in another girl 🤯😡 also the girls disrespect is repulsive just straight out disgusting 😡🤮🤮
My son is 2 and knows his abcs and the sound each letter makes. He doesn’t act like this either.
This is almost unbearable to watch. Poor Thelma…she can’t sack them all either or the travelers would turn on her!
So stressful to watch. I used to live in England and this brought back so many memories of the really disrespectful children that I encountered over the years. Can’t watch anymore
Thelma is a wonderful women! 😇🤩 And these girls are strong and amazing for taking on this incredible journey that will be forever imprinted in their “history” culture.😍 I wish Thelma all the BEST and I courage her to continue her journey of giving back! 🥰