Oh my gosh; this is embarrassing to admit! I have used my passport for over a year (prior carried a small whibal in my wallet, still do as a just in case). I would set a custom white balance on location and strive for getting everything correct in-camera, would apply afterward a warm or cool adjustment from the panels, but it's obviously apparent now to me I missed its full potential. I will now work to put into practice the profile process! Wow just wow thanks so much for this video.
Thank you! That process for generating a camera/lens profile from the Passport raw image is so quick and easy. To recap: in Lightroom, just right-click on the raw image (in Develop mode), then Export to "ColorChecker Camera Calibration" and done! It would be nice if Lightroom would then recognize the profile without restarting, but that's OK.
Nicely done and good samples from Lindsay. What I'm always asking myself is where to draw the line between a calibrated monitor and a "customer monitor". Since often the clients' monitors aren't calibrated, should I grade my footage the industry way or more for the standard monitor look so most people from the target group of my client see it "correctly"?
Excellent question. I've grappled since the industry migrated to digital processing in the late 90's. Short answer is I prefer the method outline so well in this video. I also use the same color checker (original edition), and the i1 Display 2 Revision A and DisplayCal. From time to time I've abandoned stages of this technique and that invariably lead to laborious injections of repetitive subjective changes. That included asking others which version(s) they liked best. Since it is widely accepted that the human eye will adjust the image colors subjectively regardless, for now I prefer to work objectively in Lightroom (and Photoshop) in the manner as expertly presented in this video tutorial. Within limits the viewer will see the images as they wish.
What I don't understand is that if you have to use the gray card first to achieve proper white balance in Lightroom/ Camera Raw (like she is showing here), and only when that is adjusted creating then the Camera and Lens profile (DNG conversion and Colorchecker Camera calibration software). Or if you can just dismiss the first grey card check and go straight to the DNG/Colorchecker step.
Love my Passport, and have used one for years. Historically I used it with Adobe's DNG Profiler for Lightroom/ACR profiles. I switched to Capture One a couple of years ago, and I can't for the life of me get the X-Rite calibration software to create a good profile. Reds turn to magenta consistently with the calibrated profiles I create. My monitor is dialed in calibration-wise with i1 Display. I SO want this to work.
Mark, do you have a printer associated with the monitor profile? When setting our Epson printers - which notoriously have a difficult time with printing purple/lavender - I have always thought this effected the profile developed for the cameras.
I've been working with X-Rite since posting this. They had me try the prior version, and it seemed to help slightly with the DCP profile created for Lightroom. But, when creating an ICC profile for Capture One, I did not see an improvement. They currently have no answer, and thought it may be related to my specific camera model and something to do with its files. I'm using a Leica M. Kevin at X-Rite told me he's given the details to their engineering team. Ivpg, I do have a printer, and I am using a custom profile for it. To be clear, my problem is not a printer-specific issue. My printer output matches what I see on monitor, and both the monitor and printer show a red shift to magenta with the X-rite created camera profile. If either of you get feedback from X-Rite, please share!
I had trouble from day 1 with Capture One and my xRite Color Checker. The answer for me was a software called Lumariver. With it you have a lot more control in creating your profiles, and it works great.
Love working with the Passport - But, the updates were becoming a PIA. Each update caused different issues with use on a Mac. It seems to have stabilized a bit. Unfortunately, there are still times when loading the profiler, that options on the 1st stage do not work. Also, why did Lindsay crop the image with the Passport? According to the direction [when I first purchased mine], the program uses the entire image to create a profile - cropping, or any other adjustments have no effect. The only direction was to make certain the Passport took up a majority of the image. Has this changed? Also, anytime I use the Passport to measure white balance in open shade, the "corrected" white balance sets extremely warm. Is the process different for images that are naturally cool?
The other replies are correct: The software looks only at the bottom palette of color targets. I crop it down so it's easier to see which areas the software has identified as the color targets, after I drag the DNG image into the ColorChecker Camera Calibration app. (Note for those new to this: That's the X-Rite app that generates the profile for the color correction in Lightroom). The ColorChecker app shows you the targets it has identified, and you can click and drag to fine-tune it. Lindsay Adler's video did not show those steps.
Hi all - sorry I missed this. YES - it only uses the information from the card. But NO - cropping the image, adjusting density, etc does nothing. The card is either large enough in the image and the image is exposed correctly or not. Cropping does nothing for the program. It may help you correct color on your own, but the program only uses the entirety of the image. Jack - the checker is also used to determine white balance. David - I use the plug-in for Photoshop not a separate app.
Only the white balance card. The color patches on the Video Passport are designed for use with video tools in camera and in post production edit software.
Oh my gosh; this is embarrassing to admit! I have used my passport for over a year (prior carried a small whibal in my wallet, still do as a just in case). I would set a custom white balance on location and strive for getting everything correct in-camera, would apply afterward a warm or cool adjustment from the panels, but it's obviously apparent now to me I missed its full potential. I will now work to put into practice the profile process! Wow just wow thanks so much for this video.
Thank you! That process for generating a camera/lens profile from the Passport raw image is so quick and easy. To recap: in Lightroom, just right-click on the raw image (in Develop mode), then Export to "ColorChecker Camera Calibration" and done! It would be nice if Lightroom would then recognize the profile without restarting, but that's OK.
Thanks. Wouldn't dream of doing a shoot without doing a calibration first.
Thanks Lindsay. I didn't know I could use the new software with my Monkey. I switched to ON1 2020 so I will have to see how it's set up with that.
Nicely done and good samples from Lindsay.
What I'm always asking myself is where to draw the line between a calibrated monitor and a "customer monitor". Since often the clients' monitors aren't calibrated, should I grade my footage the industry way or more for the standard monitor look so most people from the target group of my client see it "correctly"?
Excellent question. I've grappled since the industry migrated to digital processing in the late 90's. Short answer is I prefer the method outline so well in this video. I also use the same color checker (original edition), and the i1 Display 2 Revision A and DisplayCal. From time to time I've abandoned stages of this technique and that invariably lead to laborious injections of repetitive subjective changes. That included asking others which version(s) they liked best. Since it is widely accepted that the human eye will adjust the image colors subjectively regardless, for now I prefer to work objectively in Lightroom (and Photoshop) in the manner as expertly presented in this video tutorial. Within limits the viewer will see the images as they wish.
@@jtsmallable Thanks John! :)
What I don't understand is that if you have to use the gray card first to achieve proper white balance in Lightroom/ Camera Raw (like she is showing here), and only when that is adjusted creating then the Camera and Lens profile (DNG conversion and Colorchecker Camera calibration software). Or if you can just dismiss the first grey card check and go straight to the DNG/Colorchecker step.
yes you are correct.
@@Calibrite Sorry, which one is correct? Having to white balance before creating the dng, or once you apply the color corrected profile
Love my Passport, and have used one for years. Historically I used it with Adobe's DNG Profiler for Lightroom/ACR profiles. I switched to Capture One a couple of years ago, and I can't for the life of me get the X-Rite calibration software to create a good profile. Reds turn to magenta consistently with the calibrated profiles I create. My monitor is dialed in calibration-wise with i1 Display. I SO want this to work.
I'm in the same boat with the Reds looking like magentas. I just left a message on X-rite's contact me page. What camera are you shooting with.
Mark, do you have a printer associated with the monitor profile? When setting our Epson printers - which notoriously have a difficult time with printing purple/lavender - I have always thought this effected the profile developed for the cameras.
@@lvpg2943 I sent my files into X-Rite. They are working to see if it's something they can replicate and work on.
I've been working with X-Rite since posting this. They had me try the prior version, and it seemed to help slightly with the DCP profile created for Lightroom. But, when creating an ICC profile for Capture One, I did not see an improvement. They currently have no answer, and thought it may be related to my specific camera model and something to do with its files. I'm using a Leica M. Kevin at X-Rite told me he's given the details to their engineering team. Ivpg, I do have a printer, and I am using a custom profile for it. To be clear, my problem is not a printer-specific issue. My printer output matches what I see on monitor, and both the monitor and printer show a red shift to magenta with the X-rite created camera profile.
If either of you get feedback from X-Rite, please share!
I had trouble from day 1 with Capture One and my xRite Color Checker. The answer for me was a software called Lumariver. With it you have a lot more control in creating your profiles, and it works great.
Well done!! Great image too!
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Hi Michelle, you can find the ColorChecker Passport Photo 2 and the ColorChecker Display Pro at calibrite.com/us/product-category/photographers/
Love working with the Passport - But, the updates were becoming a PIA. Each update caused different issues with use on a Mac. It seems to have stabilized a bit. Unfortunately, there are still times when loading the profiler, that options on the 1st stage do not work. Also, why did Lindsay crop the image with the Passport? According to the direction [when I first purchased mine], the program uses the entire image to create a profile - cropping, or any other adjustments have no effect. The only direction was to make certain the Passport took up a majority of the image. Has this changed? Also, anytime I use the Passport to measure white balance in open shade, the "corrected" white balance sets extremely warm. Is the process different for images that are naturally cool?
I was always under the impression that just the Passport color data was used to adjust color, which is why she cropped down to it.
@@jackcotlar1594 That's correct. The software looks for the bottom palette of colors.
The other replies are correct: The software looks only at the bottom palette of color targets. I crop it down so it's easier to see which areas the software has identified as the color targets, after I drag the DNG image into the ColorChecker Camera Calibration app. (Note for those new to this: That's the X-Rite app that generates the profile for the color correction in Lightroom). The ColorChecker app shows you the targets it has identified, and you can click and drag to fine-tune it. Lindsay Adler's video did not show those steps.
Hi all - sorry I missed this. YES - it only uses the information from the card. But NO - cropping the image, adjusting density, etc does nothing. The card is either large enough in the image and the image is exposed correctly or not. Cropping does nothing for the program. It may help you correct color on your own, but the program only uses the entirety of the image. Jack - the checker is also used to determine white balance. David - I use the plug-in for Photoshop not a separate app.
My question is can I use video passport for photo work ?
Only the white balance card. The color patches on the Video Passport are designed for use with video tools in camera and in post production edit software.
@@Calibrite Got it. Thank you for clarifying.
Thanks for sharing Mam