Getting Perfect Color in Any Light with the ColorChecker Passport Photo 2

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  • Опубліковано 25 жов 2024

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  • @shouryaray
    @shouryaray 5 років тому +4

    Absolutely brilliant. When calibrating a shoot with a few thousand images, this is a huge time saver.

  • @sjsphotog
    @sjsphotog 5 років тому +3

    great tutorial Jared. Very clear. I have had my Xrite for a long time but never did a dual-illuminate profile. I need to get it done and your video inspired me to do it once and for all.

    • @Calibrite
      @Calibrite  4 роки тому +3

      Once you go Dual Illuminant you'll never go back!

  • @ronaldippolito6785
    @ronaldippolito6785 7 місяців тому

    Excellent tutorial, Jared: thank you very much.
    I also have a Passport Colorchecker Video for my video editing. Does Calibrite have a tool to create a dual-color preset for Final Cut?

  • @alliedfroth
    @alliedfroth 3 роки тому +2

    You should have done a Master & AWB comparison to show if this approach is any better.

  • @Paladin1649
    @Paladin1649 4 місяці тому

    Jared --
    THESE ONLINE TUTORIALS never seem to match up with what happens here when I try to follow along. Prompts are slightly different, results of hitting a given button are somewhat different, on and on.
    If I use a Rogue ExpoDisc for "perfect" white light, have I bypassed the issues that the ColorChecker addresses? With 18-percent light going into my camera, it seems the resulting images and colors would be "perfect" at that point.
    I have the ColorChecker, the ExpoDisc and Lightroom, but Lightroom always seems infernally complicated.
    Any advice...?
    Many Thanks!
    --K.O.

  • @toubutey
    @toubutey 2 роки тому +2

    Hi Jared, thank you for the tutorial. I frequently shoot in natural light with the sun shining through trees/leaves creating a mixture of direct and indirect light in my subjects. In this case, would you create a profile based on the indirect, direct or both light sources?

  • @geoffwilkingsphotography
    @geoffwilkingsphotography Рік тому

    How would I use this for cinema movie-making? Thank you

  • @jamessparrowphotography4960

    I just did exactly what he said - a photo in sunlight and a photo in incandesant light shot RAW, and the Master profile came out completely wrong. Any help/ideas Calibrite?

  • @alhadad1979
    @alhadad1979 3 роки тому +1

    Is profile created dependent only on the camera and lighting conditions? What about the effect of lens being used, especially when creating mater profile?

  • @phillawrence5576
    @phillawrence5576 Рік тому

    you say to get great colour across every shot, that I ever shoot from any camera......does that include wildlife in every scenerios too? , thanks learned alot!

  • @vk4vsp
    @vk4vsp 5 місяців тому

    I'm guessing that, for someone who mostly shoots outside, getting images at midday and sunset would work the same way.

  • @mfm8406
    @mfm8406 Рік тому

    Thank you so much you saved me HOURS

  • @KeithBrofsky
    @KeithBrofsky 6 місяців тому

    I'm trying this and not having any luck. I can't get past the "Export" then select the X-Rite plugin. I've downloaded X-Rite's software, created a camera profile from photographed color charts. The files it creates are .dcp which are grayed out in Lightroom Classic. No idea why. Any suggestions would be appreciated. All this effort is in an attempt to shoot interiors with mixed lighting; daylight & incandescent and/or LED. It seems the new sensors are far more sensitive. I'm using a Lumix s5IIx. My old Canon 5d seemed more forgiving.

  • @julianleeritchie1033
    @julianleeritchie1033 2 роки тому

    I have a question if I'm shooting with a strobe should I take same photo of colour cheker with strobe pls . Thanks

  • @bio7021
    @bio7021 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you! Very clearly explained...

    • @Calibrite
      @Calibrite  4 роки тому

      Thanks so much for the feedback! Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @sophiemiller6355
    @sophiemiller6355 2 роки тому +1

    Questions - If shooting interiors where do I place my colour checker passport? The scene will have different amount of light say near the window compared to a sofa that is far away from window. Or contrasty scene if it is backlit.

    • @dreamydownpours
      @dreamydownpours Рік тому

      in a pro setting I would use auto realistically most real estate gigs want fast & cheap as long as things look similar & pretty they don't appreciate images like we do. your moving slow if your using a color checker imo. unless you have time n the money is worth it

  • @MikeT-yy3
    @MikeT-yy3 Рік тому

    Hi, found your video excellent on dual illumination profiles, will this work on ACR or only Lightroom
    Many thanks

  • @timog7358
    @timog7358 Рік тому

    great video

  • @photographybygeorge1
    @photographybygeorge1 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Jared, There is a gap in all Passport Photo 2 tutorials. I'm a product photographer and I use Canon 5D Mark IV with a set of strobe lights. I calibrate my monitor every 30 days. So far I lost five projects because of color management issue (I'm 24 years in product photography business). Example: 1,900 samples of fabric, 200 table cloths, 2 projects with carpets and one with the tiles. I took a shot of my color checker passport, then I created the profiles. Next I click on Profile Browser on my Lightroom 4 Classic version 2019...and here is the problem: I need to use my bare eye to find which profile is "good enough". This is not what my client expects from a PRO. Shame on me: the client takes a shot with the cell phone and shows me perfect colors on his phone. Of course both - camera and it's monitor are on the same mobile and perfectly match. So I give the client great explanation instead of great product. Is there any solution to this problem?

    • @dreamydownpours
      @dreamydownpours Рік тому

      what's your process? do you use the grey card 1st? do you use the same environment ?

  • @carlosazevedo7748
    @carlosazevedo7748 2 роки тому

    You said that all images coming to Lightroom will have the profile and your standard setting applied. That profile is for daylight. What if you are importing images from a dance floor? Or from a more dodgy lighting? These will still be applied right? How do you go about this?

  • @pyroBlastM
    @pyroBlastM 2 роки тому

    Is there any video that shows the difference between using a profile created with dual luminance method and the other under the same lighting conditions? Ta

  • @mohdnorazmil
    @mohdnorazmil 4 роки тому +1

    CRAP, didn't know this dual illuminance profile! Anyways for the dual illuminace profile, I should not correct the WB first correct?

    • @Calibrite
      @Calibrite  4 роки тому +1

      doesn't matter. The software reads all the way to the raw image as shot.

  • @fderive
    @fderive 4 роки тому +2

    I'm new to this and on my first try I noticed something that might be worth noting even if it might be obvious. I set my color checker in bright sunlight on a yellow ceramic table at the card angle the top and bottom black rectangles of color checker are different colors in the resulting shot so this leads me to consider reflective light when doing this ( or maybe they are just different colors).

    • @Calibrite
      @Calibrite  4 роки тому

      For sure the color of the light falling on the 24 patch ColorChecker Classic is going to affect the white balance setting for the photo. VERY good point and thank you for making that clear. We appreciate your feedback.

  • @hazardstorms226
    @hazardstorms226 4 роки тому +2

    Does it matter what the white balance setting is on the camera when you take the reference photos for making a dual illuminant profile?

    • @marcf2895
      @marcf2895 3 роки тому +1

      He answered the same question further down. The answer is no, don’t white balance it.

    • @hazardstorms226
      @hazardstorms226 3 роки тому

      @@marcf2895 Thank you!

  • @thewozmancan
    @thewozmancan 3 місяці тому

    How can we do this for Affinity Photo 2?

  • @johnpeterka8355
    @johnpeterka8355 2 роки тому

    Thank you for your video, Jared! Would your process be similar for Photoshop or Capture One Pro?

  • @shengyuanhsuphotography7255
    @shengyuanhsuphotography7255 3 роки тому

    I have no idea we can use master profile!! cool.

  • @MovingThePicture
    @MovingThePicture 3 роки тому +1

    When he applied the dual illuminant profile all colors changed substantially. I dobt it is possible to use the dual illuminant across different light sources.

    • @Minotaurus007
      @Minotaurus007 2 роки тому

      I thought the same: a shadow can be red, yellowish, or green through the leafs. That should give different results. Furthermore, I sometimes shoot with different cameras (Fuji, Nikon, Sony), where all images should have consistent colors in the end. That's why I need a colorchecker image for every set for every camera. Doing this is very powerful: you cannot tell which image was taken with which camera. It simply works.
      Furthermore - he does not explain why his dual-technique does not work in Capture One and why.

  • @sebastianstudzinski104
    @sebastianstudzinski104 10 місяців тому

    Hello
    I want to create a dual illumina profile dla sony a7R3a
    Should one photo be taken for an incandescent light source for wb (white balance) incandescent setting?
    Should I take a second photo for the shade light source whit wb (white balance) shade setting?
    Should both photos incandescent and shadow be taken with white balance the AWB setting?
    I take landscape photos with the white balance set to AWB.
    How to take both photos correctly? -for AWB or white balance settings: shade and incandescent in body?
    Thank you for your answer
    Sebastian

    • @Calibrite
      @Calibrite  9 місяців тому

      Our skilled technicians would be happy to help with these questions. Please open a support case to ensure that you receive timely and accurate information. calibrite.com/raise-a-support-case/

  • @strel933
    @strel933 2 роки тому

    Hi! Where can i download the xrite plug in from please?

    • @Calibrite
      @Calibrite  2 роки тому

      Please visit our software downloads page calibrite.com/software-downloads/

  • @dennishumbla5431
    @dennishumbla5431 4 роки тому +2

    Great video, I didn't know about this, I only used gray card. I have lots of trouble with mixed light temp and not always a grey card with me.

    • @karlmannaerialvideography9756
      @karlmannaerialvideography9756 4 роки тому

      Can a profile be easily created in Photoshop too?

    • @Calibrite
      @Calibrite  4 роки тому

      There is no plug-in for Photoshop but there is a workflow to create and use profiles in Photoshop

  • @iustitiaepervenit
    @iustitiaepervenit 3 роки тому +1

    Why just canon does not make a so called master profile for their camera ?

    • @Minotaurus007
      @Minotaurus007 2 роки тому

      You can read my mind... :-). I think if you need exact colors you have to calibrate each and every lighting situation.

    • @IvanToman
      @IvanToman 2 роки тому

      It does. It is called Faithful or something like that.

  • @Zebrajellyfishphoto
    @Zebrajellyfishphoto 4 роки тому +1

    Help me...you're making a profile for the Canon 5DM4 but don't the lenses add their own subtle twist to the colors recorded by the body? If so, what then? I'm guessing, just shoot the Passport each session with the body/lens used and go from there. Thank you.

    • @Calibrite
      @Calibrite  4 роки тому

      Yes you certainly can. Generally the differences in lenses are slight but if you have one or more lenses with big differences the YES absolutely!

    • @Zebrajellyfishphoto
      @Zebrajellyfishphoto 4 роки тому

      @@Calibrite Thanks

  • @MrDvaz
    @MrDvaz 2 роки тому

    some people were made to explain things...you are one of those people......hope you decide to be a teacher...any kind of..... thank you!

  • @richardvankesteren7013
    @richardvankesteren7013 3 роки тому

    How can I use it when I make a photo with my mobile phone and use Corel AfterShot Pro3 and Paintshop Pro2021 as editors?

  • @qtben17
    @qtben17 3 роки тому

    canon color science is pretty easy to deal with. Do u have a demo using a Sony camera? Sony skin tones are really tough to work in lightroom

    • @Calibrite
      @Calibrite  3 роки тому

      Hi Ben, This video may help: ua-cam.com/video/K0EcS5NK6_4/v-deo.html. If you need more assistance, our support team is happy to help. Just fill out this form to open a support ticket: www.xrite.com/contact-us/contact-us-form

  • @xDane82x
    @xDane82x 2 роки тому

    Can someone give a more detailed answer on how to set the WB for tungsten, daylight and shadow? Obviously, if I use tungsten for tungsten light I neutralize my colour but that is not what is wanted here.

  • @marcosphotography
    @marcosphotography 5 років тому

    I have a question, creating the dual_Illuminate camera profile, will auto color correct my images, or will I still be needing to use the target for color correct my images?

  • @mohdnorazmil
    @mohdnorazmil 4 роки тому

    I have only one confusion, do I need to resample the white balance after changing profile? or before? or before and after?

    • @Calibrite
      @Calibrite  4 роки тому +2

      I do it after I apply the profile. Sometimes I do it before as well so I can see how much and where the colors shift but I always do it again after applying the profile.

  • @mariohommes872
    @mariohommes872 4 роки тому +3

    Hi Jared. Thanks for the great Video! One question about the Process: Is it necessary to take a shot for the Whitebalancing and adjust the Camera to the right Color Temperature before the Calibration-Shot? Greets from Germany, Mario

    • @Calibrite
      @Calibrite  4 роки тому +4

      Not if you are shooting raw. If you are shooting JPEG in camera or if you plan to switch to video during your still shoot then by all means do a custom white balance in camera.

    • @mariohommes872
      @mariohommes872 4 роки тому

      @@Calibrite Thank you!!!

  • @jonpremosch9544
    @jonpremosch9544 2 роки тому

    am i tripping or does this make the reds pink?

  • @betterburnout
    @betterburnout 4 роки тому

    Hi there. What happens if the color temperature settings are wrong ? What's the impact ?

    • @Calibrite
      @Calibrite  4 роки тому

      If you're shooting raw you can change the color temperature without adversely affecting the file. It's non destructive editing.

  • @fiskpad
    @fiskpad 4 роки тому

    Can you please tell us how to delete custom profiles once we no longer need them? Using Mac OS Catalina and LR.

  • @michelleyip9507
    @michelleyip9507 5 років тому +1

    can xrite please come up with a tutorial using canon dpp? Xrite states that the CC passport photo 2 is able to b use with dpp. so pls show us how. i been trying to figure out how but had not been able to. not all of us are pros.
    we r hobbyists that do not need the added stress. we just wanted something straight forward, to the point. an easy workflow.
    Xrite can have people doing webinars for using CC with LR, adobe, Capture1, but not with dpp which is a free software that come with all canon cameras. u r missing out on a big market here.

    • @田中作乐
      @田中作乐 2 роки тому

      我也一直在等待如何支持dpp!!!

  • @MrKapkin
    @MrKapkin 3 роки тому

    Thank you for your great tutorial. I have a question about lenses, because no one has ever mentioned the different color effect of different lenses. I am very curious about this subject. ı have one camera body, but ı have many different lenses. Zoom, tilt shift, wide, normal vs. My question is, should ı create a profile for every each lens, under different light conditions?. For example, for 70-200 lens, should ı create a profile under day light conditions , studio flash, or tungsten light conditions. Thank you ıf someone answer to my question.

    • @charlieross-BRM
      @charlieross-BRM 2 роки тому +1

      This is much later after your question. I received a one on one tutorial from an X-Rite training representative and her answer to that would be yes. Create a profile for each lens. Particularly she mentioned that the European and the Asian manufacturers have different chemisty in the coatings they apply, plus the number of coatings applied varies from lens to lens, and so on. For her personal photos she has created profiles unique to each lens/camera combination she uses. When she returns from a trip, all the image files from the SD card get batch processed while she goes and does something more relaxing than watch a computer.

  • @m.a.stough4994
    @m.a.stough4994 2 роки тому

    It is a shame that dual-illuminate only works with Lightroom and not others like Capture One. Obviously, I’m not a LR user.

  • @David141071
    @David141071 5 років тому

    Will this master profile work with golden hour? Or should I just make a profile for that type of light (or does it fall under daylight?).
    Thank you for the video, I’ve been on the fence to purchase this tool, this has helped me make a better informed decision.

    • @longliveclassicmusic
      @longliveclassicmusic 5 років тому +7

      David141071 Using the ColorChecker completely neutralizes the colors and eliminates color casts. If you calibrate for a shot at golden hour, the picture will no longer be golden. It will look as if it were taken in regular daylight. The way to keep the golden hour look and still color check is to take your calibration photo at high noon or with the sun overhead, create your profile from that, and then wait and take your actual pictures at golden hour. That way the color shift caused by golden hour, the difference between sunlight directly overhead and the sunlight at golden hour, will still be present in your images.

    • @David141071
      @David141071 5 років тому

      longliveclassicmusic thank you for the response, my color checker will arrive this weekend, I will start to use it right away.

  • @jeg569
    @jeg569 4 роки тому

    If I use the X Rite profiles, does that mean I wont see my Fuji X-T4 colours as Fuji intended?

  • @Zonesystm
    @Zonesystm 2 роки тому +1

    Towards Colors And Color checker card. My concern is that these colors are so industrialised to match the real specific color and her light nuances on location.
    Therefore, I thInk, colors and white balance will Not represent the actual REAL Image. All REAL color cast and nuances in light in color Will be overruled by this checker card & Color will become monotone, the checker card is leading and therefore the same for every picture. But I have not tried it so I do not know. Anyway That is what I feel after watching multiple video’s on this topic.

    • @Minotaurus007
      @Minotaurus007 2 роки тому

      I think you are right. What I do: after color correction with the colorchecker I check if the resulting image represents the intended scene: is it so green? Is it so warm? From there I adjust colors to match my intensions. But the "true" colors may be a good starting point.
      The other use of the color checker is if you or two or more photographers shoot with different cameras the same scene: Fuji, Sony, Nikon. When you need a consistent color through all the images colorchecker is a valuable tool and simply works!

  • @marcosphotography
    @marcosphotography 5 років тому

    this is very intersting.

  • @jamesstrength5405
    @jamesstrength5405 5 років тому +2

    Ok dude... you cant us that same calibration for every photo from now on. That calibration is for that specific lighting situation. You need to calibrate for every photo shoot you do that has a different lighting scenario. Take for instance, if you are photographing in shade. You need to recalibrate. Your camera reads color differently in different lighting situations.

    • @PhotosBySandJ
      @PhotosBySandJ 4 роки тому

      Very true James, unless you happen to be in a studio with light constant from hour to hour and day to day. This is a massive help to studio photographers.

    • @Calibrite
      @Calibrite  4 роки тому +1

      Unless you make a Dual Illuminate profile that includes multiple lighting sources. This option is only available for DNG (.dcp) profiles and certainly not for ICC profiles. Will the Dual or Master profile be as good a one made for a single light source? You be the judge. We would love to hear your thoughts and thanks for the comment.

    • @MovingThePicture
      @MovingThePicture 3 роки тому

      @@Calibrite
      Just pause this video and compare 7:30 and 7:35 how do you explain the visible colour difference between the sun light and dual illuminant profile. One profile has to be off by a lot.

  • @nickandrievsky5705
    @nickandrievsky5705 2 роки тому

    I spend $100 on Photo Checker 2 and it is garbage. The result with daylight and white box is not even close. I’m using Fuji with x-trans sensor which comes with a different raw format, maybe that’ could be an issue. The PRO Neg Std profile did significantly more accurate colors representation. Soft is also looks like it from the previous century. Maybe I’m doing something wrong but after few attempts during a year I want only to get rid of this useless thing.

  • @GameArtsCafe
    @GameArtsCafe 4 роки тому

    Once you choose between two light sources trying to get an average for "most" other pictures, you've just destroyed the idea of getting exact color matching and instead entered imagination lol For the most part the tutorial is good, even if you want to skip perfection and just get best possible match for almost any lighting without having to spend a great amount of time/setup each time.

  • @BrianFinance
    @BrianFinance 5 років тому

    Fairly useless to me without specialist software

    • @Calibrite
      @Calibrite  5 років тому +2

      Download FREE Camera Calibration software for ColorChecker Passport Photo 2 here: xritephoto.com/ph_product_overview.aspx?ID=2572&Action=Support&SoftwareID=2030&catid=154

    • @LuisMartinez-tj1dz
      @LuisMartinez-tj1dz 5 років тому +1

      that's why you need the x-rite

    • @michelleyip9507
      @michelleyip9507 5 років тому +1

      even with the specialist software, it can still b pretty useless if xrite is not showing u how to use it properly.
      for lack of a proper workflow. they sucks on educating. i had to watch so many videos b4 i can piece them together. it is like a f..... jigsaw puzzle.

    • @田中作乐
      @田中作乐 2 роки тому

      @@Calibrite 你好 是否有如何使用护照在dpp上面的教程!

    • @Minotaurus007
      @Minotaurus007 2 роки тому

      @@michelleyip9507 They have a pdf for capture one, too. It works.

  • @GrantSR
    @GrantSR Рік тому

    Yet again, you are ONLY showing me how to use your product with software that I have to RENT from Adobe. I do not like to RENT my software. I like to own it. Therefore, I don't use Adobe products. Until you show me how to generate an ICC profile WITHOUT using Adobe software, then I will not be buying your products.

    • @Calibrite
      @Calibrite  Рік тому

      Hi Grant, what editing program do you prefer to use? We do have some videos on how to create and apply profiles in Capture One, like this one: ua-cam.com/video/-zMHJtAUq90/v-deo.html

    • @GrantSR
      @GrantSR Рік тому

      @@Calibrite I use Affinity Photo. I've already gotten a response from your tech support on your website. Your software isn't going to work directly with Affinity Photo. However, Affinity Photo can apply standard ICC profiles. Therefore, you guys need to start giving more "airtime" to discussing and explaining what I'll call the "Tiff workflow." You need to stop pretending that everybody is going to be doing everything using a Photoshop plugin. And start showing people how to generate an unmodified/no-profile TIFF file using various programs, and then how to import that TIFF file in your standalone profile generator.
      If a particular photo editing program does not have appropriate features to export an unmodified TIF file, then you should also show how to do so using free and open source software. I shouldn't have to spend $180 a year to RENT a program just for exporting TIFF files. And yet, all of your videos pretend that all of us are either going to have Photoshop or Capture One. You are therefore causing a large number of people to believe that they can't make use of your product, because they don't want to spend that extra money for Photoshop or Capture One. Now, if you want to continue cutting into your sales numbers, I guess that's up to you.
      If I wasn't a former network manager, I probably would have given up on The idea of using your products a long time ago.