The New ColorChecker Passport 2: Every Professional Photographer Needs One

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  • Опубліковано 2 лис 2024

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  • @Sondercreative
    @Sondercreative  5 років тому +2

    Amazon worldwide - geni.us/CCpass and geni.us/CCpass2
    B&H - bhpho.to/2UCTrZq and bhpho.to/2CAnHab

    • @vodoo5553
      @vodoo5553 5 років тому

      Great channel, Whats the difference between the photo and video version ? Could you use the photo version for video or the video version for photos.
      They look identical.
      Thanks

  • @maikmueller
    @maikmueller 5 років тому +22

    For that premium price they want you to pay, they really could have stepped up the game. The build quality is something I'd expect from a cheap China knockoff, more color patches would not hurt, a software solution that doesn't mess up your LR profile folder either. And yeah splitting photo and video is stretching it way too much.

  • @snyggmikael
    @snyggmikael 2 роки тому +1

    How inaccurate would a color correction be if you just based your reds with a digital red, aka a red that isn't affected by the light in the scene?
    I mean sure, for example the brighter the light is the lighter the red will be on the color checker. But what if you use the brightnesslevel of the
    scene and compare it to the red of the color checker. Then adapt the brightnesslevel numbers to the digital red color.
    How big of a difference would that create?
    And I am also wonder whether or not a specific red matter unless its a specific red produced by a product brand. But hey even then.
    Is the brand in question aware of exacly how red their product are in all kind of lighting? If they dont, they wont know how exact that red is
    in relation to the lightsource. Many product photographs and interior photographs or whatever even change the colors to "improve" their
    colors by increasing or decreasing the levels of the colors. So of often exactly do you really need a color checker?
    I am wondering because I am new to this.

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  2 роки тому +1

      Great questions. This is basically why you should use a colour checker passport in the field while you're shooting. That way the software can accomodate the different lighting and scenario.
      If the passport is shot in the same scene then the red on the passport will be affected by the environment too. This is explains why if you reuse a profile from a different environement the results may look a little odd.

  • @David.J.Delahoussaye
    @David.J.Delahoussaye 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks for the video this was great. I have a colorchecker but never used it. Now I will. I do have a question. Do you need to create a new profile for each change of light your subject is in? Should I be taking a picture of the Colorchecker each time the subject changes to a new area?

  • @lifetimestoriesphotography
    @lifetimestoriesphotography 3 роки тому +1

    Would you take a shoot of the colour checker on each session? I use a studio light and my light settings changes a little from set up to set up and not sure if I need to take a shoot with the checker when the light is changing.

    • @marceldruwephoto4079
      @marceldruwephoto4079 3 роки тому

      Hi Victoria. You usually want a new profile for each body/lens/lighting scenario combination.

  • @mhs6305
    @mhs6305 3 роки тому +1

    Why does my image appear orange or warm every time I adjust the white balance using the color checker passport? My camera is the Canon eos 70d. My computer screen is calibrated. Thanks

  • @cleokatra.
    @cleokatra. 5 років тому +3

    Thanks for the great info! And so agree on the hybrid shooter color checker. I’m a photographer and videographer and don’t understand why they don’t combine them !

  • @JeffreyJDavis
    @JeffreyJDavis 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for the detailed and honest review. Ordered a CCP2 which is coming tomorrow (I want it for OCF portraits and Flambient Real Estate / Architecture). Question: Since you basically need a new profile for every lighting combination / shoot, how are you managing those. Do you just start building up a list of hundreds of x-rite profiles in the profile browser? Won't it break your edit if you delete the profile?

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  9 місяців тому +1

      It really depends. I generally produce one profile per shoot unless the lighting conditions are drastically different, or if I'm using a different lens.
      The good thing is that individual profiles only apply against images with the same lensand camera combination so it's easier to manage.
      I don't think the image edit breaks if you delete a profile. IUt just goes back to a default profile or you need to change the profile when you go back to the image.

  • @bthemedia
    @bthemedia 5 років тому +2

    Was waiting for the Passport "v2" update... @7:50 - love it! ;)

  • @ShaneBaker
    @ShaneBaker 5 років тому +2

    Thanks for the update - and the reminder!
    I have a ColorChecker and never use it. And given that Capture One can now use the ColorChecker - well, I'm just being lazy!!

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  5 років тому

      It is that extra thing to think about and have with you right. We all forget on occasions lol.
      Thank you for watching :-).

  • @krystlemarcellus9186
    @krystlemarcellus9186 4 роки тому +1

    Great info, thanks so much.

  • @rickjbradbury
    @rickjbradbury 4 роки тому

    I still have the original color checker. It is probably due replacement as they need replacing every 3-4 years I think. Will grab which ever is cheapest at the time. Thanks for the video Usman

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  4 роки тому

      You’re very welcome. Thank you for watching.

  • @shouryaray
    @shouryaray 5 років тому +2

    The comment on the clickety hinge surprised me. I always assumed that the hinge has built in click-stops so that you can sit it up on a table top at various angles (for when you don't have a helper or stand to hold it). Finally, these color patches fade over time, so if yours is over two years old and it has seen significant use, then version 2 or 1, it's time for an upgrade.

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  5 років тому

      I agree about the upgrade.
      The hinge could be much better designed though without needing the clicky thing. Plenty of other ways of ensuring the it can sit up without needing the current hinge system. Also it always catches on my hand lol.

    • @shouryaray
      @shouryaray 5 років тому

      @Danny Chau Wonderful insight into the past. Thank you.

  • @CappsProductions
    @CappsProductions 2 роки тому

    Do you have to buy both or could I use the video one for my photography?

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  2 роки тому +1

      Im not entirely certain but will be producing a video on that subject as soon as I’ve done some tests.

  • @VidaEats
    @VidaEats 2 роки тому

    Do you have to make a new profile each time you do a new shoot?

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  2 роки тому +1

      Depends on your environment and how precise you want your colours to be. You can spend more and purchase the large Digital SG version and simply create a one time ICC profile. It’s a far more effective way to work.

    • @VidaEats
      @VidaEats 2 роки тому

      @@Sondercreative thank you for replying.

  • @garryb4072
    @garryb4072 5 років тому +2

    I love your straight-shooting reviews. I always gain knowledge from them...and they're fun to watch!

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  5 років тому +1

      Thank you very much, great to see you comment again.

  • @johnw.3636
    @johnw.3636 3 роки тому

    Does Capture One now work with the Colorchecker?

  • @GDoggProductions
    @GDoggProductions 4 роки тому

    Great video 👏👏👏 very new to this colour checker stuff but will most certainly look into getting one 😁

  • @bencekovacs1067
    @bencekovacs1067 4 роки тому

    Hi. Do you recommend it when I shoot interior with 2-3 flashes, umbrella and sometimes CTO?

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  4 роки тому

      Especially then.
      As long as you’re viewing images on a larger, better screen.

  • @selectedItemsblog
    @selectedItemsblog 3 роки тому

    Is it possible to shot with my fuji xpro 3, create the profile and apply it to the Lumix g80 pictures? Would the picture look the same? Thanks.

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  3 роки тому

      I would personally recommend you create individual profiles for the camera and lens combinations. I don't think you can use X-rite profiles from one camera to another. However, if you're using Capture one and you create an ICC profile then you can absolutely use them from one camera to another.
      ICC profiles are best created using the larger and more expensive ColourChecker Digital SG

  • @bojangbg
    @bojangbg 4 роки тому +2

    Canon has a weird color reproduction. This helps a lot. Thanks

  • @spoonest
    @spoonest 4 роки тому

    Is it useful only for raw video?

  • @karlbratby4349
    @karlbratby4349 2 роки тому

    Had one of these for years and never had to use shooting canon, however now with sony and have awful skin tones and now use the passport and its profiles and sorted, a bit of a pain to do each time and to remember to shoot a test profile image but at least now get good skin tone with Sony.

  • @Crispy_Bee
    @Crispy_Bee 5 років тому +1

    Sadly the ICC profiles that the x-rite software produces are broken. They don't convert to AdobeRGB or ProPhoto with correct black levels, meaning you don't get the correct contrast.

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  5 років тому

      I use lumariver with capture one and the results are much better than what’s produced with X-rites software and lightroom.

  • @silhouette-sound
    @silhouette-sound 4 роки тому

    Can you use the Video passport color checker for photos also?

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  4 роки тому

      I don’t think you can. I haven’t tried it but I’m confident they’re both specifically for each.

  • @romic6271
    @romic6271 4 роки тому

    i'm confused there is an x-rite color checker passport photo and there is x-rite color checker passport photo 2 and finally there is x-rite color checker passport Video can anybody please check me with the usage for each one and let's say that you have the color checker for Video does it work on the photos as well ? thanks

  • @TiffinboxTV
    @TiffinboxTV 5 років тому +2

    Thanks - great info and you saved me $140! I have an unopened PassportChecker (version 1) and will use that going forward. Cheers!

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  5 років тому

      Glad to have helped. Thank you very much for watching.

    • @matthewdavidking
      @matthewdavidking 5 років тому +1

      If it's older than 18-24mos though and you use it often, I would replace. I noticed a color shift recently and wasn't aware why. My profile were starting to come out quite a bit off. I've had the card for over 5 years now.... so I'm definitely replacing it, but sticking to V1.

    • @TiffinboxTV
      @TiffinboxTV 5 років тому

      @@matthewdavidking I was told by one of the local vendors that the colors do fade. If they still make V1, and that works, I would stick with that. Still not sure what is different about V2.

    • @bthemedia
      @bthemedia 5 років тому

      @@matthewdavidking yeah, from V1 to V2 they simply replaced the note card "date when first used" record (and suggestion to replace in 2 years) with the grey card =)

  • @kbqvist
    @kbqvist 4 роки тому

    I have noticed that X-rite suggests that you replace your color checker passport after 2 years of use. Do you have any opinion on whether that will really be helpful? After all, even the old Egyptians had pigments that has lasted for thousands of years🤔

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  4 роки тому +1

      Generally depends on how much you use it but I do think you should replace it once every few years.
      2 years seems a bit short to me. To me this is if you’re using it every day. I would say 4 - 6 years is a better suggestion but once again, based on usage.

    • @JeffreyJDavis
      @JeffreyJDavis 9 місяців тому +1

      Real talk - (coming from another life where I managed the color standards for Apple, Ford, Toyota, Dell etc) the colors WILL shift over time. Keep them out of the sun and if possible store them in the freezer. Probably 2 years is overkill but every 5 - 10 years is probably reasonable.

  • @JericTamayo
    @JericTamayo 3 роки тому

    Love the content of your video, the quality and details of your explanations are awesome. But the only thing that kinda makes me annoyed, not just you but any UA-camr, is when they ramble on about minor inconveniences like the lack of update for the 2nd version. You guys get so emotionally riled up over nothing sometimes. But glad you point it out even though the functionality is the only thing that matters to me personally. Little things like those criticisms mentioned are just 1st world problems. But again, thanks for the video!

  • @Zegmaar_Bas
    @Zegmaar_Bas 5 років тому +3

    Amazing explanation, amazing criticism, amazing video quality! Definitely a thumbs up, considering a subscribe :)

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  5 років тому +1

      Thank you very much for watching and please do subscribe :-).

  • @kwinzman
    @kwinzman 2 роки тому

    What does the ColorChecker Video do that the ColorChecker Photo doesn't do?
    Isn't video just a lot of photos in sequence?

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  2 роки тому +1

      I think the video one has fewer colour patches soo it may not be as effective for photo. Possibly, I’m not certain to be honest I don’t know a great deal about the video passport.

  • @qualaup
    @qualaup 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this video. Bought the 2, had to... What a cheap crappy plastic thing for a lot of money!

  • @cormacbyrne9655
    @cormacbyrne9655 3 роки тому

    Great video and very true about the hinge, that annoys the head of me. :-)

  • @yonatantesfaye1565
    @yonatantesfaye1565 2 роки тому

    What will happen if I use it for video

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  2 роки тому

      Unfortunately I don’t have enough experience using it for video. Im sure there is a video version of it though thats supposed to be great for grading.

  • @michelleyip9507
    @michelleyip9507 5 років тому

    i got the version 1 but i don't have the lightroom. however, it still make my editing in canon dpp so much simple.
    took me some time to figure out a workflow that works for me with my limited skills n resources. but i get better consistency across my photos regardless when i took them.
    i wish x-rite can work with the major camera brands to come up with something for hobbyist like us.
    we do not need fanciful software like the adobe cause we seldom use them. but we do like getting our colors correct.

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  5 років тому

      I'm pretty confident you can use X-rites own software to create profiles too. Maybe that could work for you?

    • @michelleyip9507
      @michelleyip9507 5 років тому

      @@Sondercreative i tried but i failed. as i said, i have limited skills n resources.
      maybe experts like u can come up with something real simple for idiots like me. i m pretty sure that there r plenty like me out there. would b much appreciated.

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  5 років тому

      michelle yip we all have gaps in our knowledge and I’m hardly an expert lol.
      I’ll try the x-rite software and see if I can do a mini tutorial or find one for you.

    • @michelleyip9507
      @michelleyip9507 5 років тому

      @@Sondercreative thanks. i just want to have fun doing editing not stress myself out. even now, i still have not really figure out how most of the canon dpp works n i been using it even since i got my 450d 11 yrs ago.

    • @michelleyip9507
      @michelleyip9507 5 років тому

      but it is simple than adobe, gimp etc. too much work n more than what i need.

  • @syedumar6675
    @syedumar6675 3 роки тому

    If The Video of Passport is more clear and focus and not to hurry. Then it may be a good post.

  • @pgtips4240
    @pgtips4240 5 років тому

    So if you are both photographer and videographer what one do you buy? Surely not both?

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  5 років тому

      I just buy the photography one and use that for everything. For video I don't create profiles and just use it for white balancing and reference.

  • @john3Lee
    @john3Lee 5 років тому

    Always a good honest review - Thanks..... btw, can you delete profiles easily too.. Would be useful if adding new profiles per shoot..

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  5 років тому

      Thank you for watching :-).
      I think there is a way I just haven’t looked into it properly yet. I’ll let you know once I know.

  • @ThePatbiller
    @ThePatbiller 5 років тому

    Is there any chance you would consider speaking on the phone about how I can use this when shooting interiors and using multiple exposers for accurate white balance and colours? I will literally pay for a video chat with you about this.

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  5 років тому

      No need to pay, send me an email.
      Details on our website.

  • @emmgeevideo
    @emmgeevideo 5 років тому

    I finally figured out how to get a profile out of Lumariver for use in Capture One.. I also finally tried the X-Rite camera calibration software. I thought the Lumariver profile looked better. When I applied it to some photos, I was shocked at how dark they were. I had to brighten at least a full stop. Something tells me I’m doing something wrong still. A follow-up video might be useful with explanations of how to use the profile. For example, does it make sense to used the C1 Fuji film simulation curves with the profile created by either Lumariver or X-Rite? BTW, if it wasn’t for your videos I’d be lost. The Lumariver documentation is super confusing.

  • @jonpremosch9544
    @jonpremosch9544 2 роки тому

    it makes the reds pink?

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  2 роки тому

      What are you watching this video on please?

  • @lwhite7991
    @lwhite7991 4 роки тому

    What’s the difference with the video color checker. Why can’t you use this one for video

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  4 роки тому

      Honestly I’m not certain. I just use the photography one for white balancing video clips.

  • @hovhanneshovakimyan
    @hovhanneshovakimyan 4 роки тому

    OK. Adobe Color profile is not the best we knew this. But what about comparing "corrected" profile with a Camera Satndard profile?!

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  4 роки тому

      Fair question, in every comparison I’ve done the corrected profile does a better job because you’re using a tool which was photographed in that specific scene you’re actually shooting.
      All other profiles are more vague in comparison because they weren’t created for the specific scene you were shooting.

  • @ramseypietronasser
    @ramseypietronasser 3 роки тому

    Okay, but why are the highlights washed out?

  • @ronelm
    @ronelm 4 роки тому

    This looks useful but I don't see how swatches of colors on a piece of plastic costs $200, am I missing something here?

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  4 роки тому

      Mostly because getting those colours perfect and accurate takes a great deal of effort. Plus the software. Also it’s not $200 is it? Over here in the U.K. it’s just over £100

  • @Lnej1
    @Lnej1 5 років тому

    Hi! Thank you for making such detailed and educational videos. I use Color Checker Passport mainly for architecture shots as you said in the video. I find it difficult to know where to place it in the room with mixed artificial and natural lighting and get consistent looking results. In the end, I usually just use profile made for daylight and adjust WB and the tone of the pictures just by the feel. Could you explain more in detail how to use it correctly in multi-room, mixed light situations?

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  5 років тому +1

      The issue with mixed lighting situations is that you don't want the profile to be created with one light being the main. The way I do it is to take the shot that I want first and then I can decide where to put the passport. Depending on the actual image Ill place it where I think it's going to offer the best balance between the lighting. Sometimes I may not want the profile to be affected by certain light sources so I'll actually switch them off.
      There are lots of things you can do but what I highly recommend above all is not to use lightroom for the profile. I made a video earlier where I demonstrate how to use the passport in lightroom using Lumariver, Even now that's still the best method to create a profile.

    • @shouryaray
      @shouryaray 5 років тому +1

      This is where a "dual luminant" (google please) profile comes in handy. Take one reference shot of the passport in window light only (overhead lights turned off) and then another shot of the passport in overhead light only (window blinds pulled down). Then use the ColorChecker software to combine both images to create a dual luminant profile for that room. Now, you can open the blinds and turn on the overhead lights and everything should work.

  • @_0O0O0O0_
    @_0O0O0O0_ 3 роки тому +1

    1:55 video starts here

  • @mdsolutionsonline2515
    @mdsolutionsonline2515 5 років тому

    It does not install directly into LM. I can't find how to actually use it in LM.

    • @mdsolutionsonline2515
      @mdsolutionsonline2515 5 років тому

      I installed the latest 2.0.1 version and it's not in LM

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  5 років тому +1

      MDsolutions Online sorry what’s LM?

    • @mdsolutionsonline2515
      @mdsolutionsonline2515 5 років тому

      @@Sondercreative Totally missed this reply sorry! Lightroom. I meant to write LR not LM my bad.

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  5 років тому +1

      MDsolutions Online no worries :-). In lightroom it should only appear as an export option. Does that come up. There are some tutorials online showing how to use it.
      Also if that doesn’t work I’d contact X-Rite.

    • @mdsolutionsonline2515
      @mdsolutionsonline2515 5 років тому

      Sonder Creative No it doesn’t show up as an export for me. I’m using Lightroom Classic on the Creative Cloud. It did install a desktop application so you could convert the native raw files out of the camera to dng then import those to the XRite app to do your color correction and then export those to your Lightroom catalog but no seamless process through Lightroom itself. I’ll give them a call and see what’s going on. Thanks for the help!

  • @PA-gt1dd
    @PA-gt1dd 2 роки тому

    1. how come NO ONE and I mean NO ONE ANYWHERE explain what EACH panel of the checker is four? 2. There are TWO grays a 12% gray and 18%...WHY?? Please make a video explaining and using each page of the colorchecker passport 2...PLEASE?

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  2 роки тому

      Grey patches are generally used for exposure balance. Theres a half stop difference between a 12% grey and 18% grey. Exposure will of course impact colours so having these two patches helps you managed the exposure to prevent issues.
      Grey cards are used in the same way, you use it to calibrate exposure of any given scene. Personally, I think grey cards are a little dated and exposure doesnt need to follow what a grey card says. However they can be useful in certain controlled shooting environments.
      I didn’t fully understand what you meant with your first question can you
      Please explain.

  • @charlieschmidt9668
    @charlieschmidt9668 4 роки тому

    What a winer.... many great image makers use grey cards....

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  4 роки тому

      So... you decided to whine about me whining lol.

  • @stevenmeansphotography3861
    @stevenmeansphotography3861 2 роки тому

    So you installed the color profile once
    And that’s it

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  2 роки тому +1

      Depends on how you shoot.
      If you're ina studio and you're using the same lights then you probably could get away with just one profile. However, if you're moving around and shooting in different environements regularly then might be an idea to create a profile for each new location/lightin scenario.

    • @stevenmeansphotography3861
      @stevenmeansphotography3861 2 роки тому

      @@Sondercreative ok so it comes with a CD to install as well

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  2 роки тому +1

      @@stevenmeansphotography3861 the software is available to download from the website. Software on CD becomes dated very quickly.

    • @stevenmeansphotography3861
      @stevenmeansphotography3861 2 роки тому

      @@Sondercreative I’m thanks

  • @gerardg1950
    @gerardg1950 4 роки тому +1

    Music too loud. What? MUSIC TOO LOUD!

  • @sarimner
    @sarimner 5 років тому +1

    And the X-rite profile Software is still bad..

    • @Sondercreative
      @Sondercreative  5 років тому +1

      It's not the best that's why I prefer using Lumariver and Capture One.

    • @sarimner
      @sarimner 5 років тому

      @@Sondercreative Lumariver sems to be the best..

    • @sarimner
      @sarimner 5 років тому

      @@Sondercreative rawdigger have a profile maker to.. but dont know how good it is.. 🤔🙄

  • @blackjohnny0
    @blackjohnny0 2 роки тому

    I got Passport 2 for years and it's really expendable. After they became calibrite their software fallen apart. Last photoshoot I did, it all messing up colors. All settings for white balance is making photos waaaay to yellow. Useless piece of shit and expensive one.