Thunder Storms - Flying to Oshkosh AirVenture 2015 - Fisk arrival - ATC audio
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Thanks to Alden and his family for inviting Zan and I to fly their lovely 172RG to Osh.
And thanks to Martin J Filiatrault for sharing the Osh storm photos and video.
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Additional thoughts from my chief flight instructor Dennis about "Real Time" radar imagery and flying into AirVenture:
Regarding the radar: XM or Stratus radar is not only NOT real time, it can be delayed by as much as 20 minutes…and on some APPS there is NO timer telling you how old the data is. ALSO, because of bandwidth limitations, The image is very pixelated, probably less than 1/10th the resolution of an on board radar. When you use Stratus, it’s four to six times more coarse than XM. The common phrase is : onboard radar can be used tactically, but XM and others only strategically. In other words, don’t use anything but onboard radar to thread through bad weather.
Over all comments:
1. EYES OPEN, MOUTH CLOSED…way too much chatter at the last critical miles
2. EYES on your own territory. There's no point for everyone to be looking everywhere, you take the right front corner, Alden the left, ZAN checks six and the rear quarters…and the six ain't that important.
3. Any day is a good day to go to OSH but its fun to get there early so you can get a good spot and watch others arrive…sometimes that’s the best part of the show. Also if its busy and you arrive late, you may not even be allowed in…you’ll have to park in Appleton or some other satellite airport.
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"crashed at my grandparents" interesting word choice in an aviation video lol good video
How about if you are a flying farmer and wanted to buy something? Think about that!
My late father and I flew from St. Louis into Oshkosh airshow twice, once in a Cherokee 160 and once in his '48 Bonanza. We had to stop at fondulac to wait for airshow to finish up on one of the trips. Most exciting flights we ever made. Ill never forget the P-51 landing long coming over the top of us. My father passed away in Jan of this year and I really miss him badly. Thanks for the video Flightchops , brought back great memories.
Girls and Luggage.. a normal trip to the Bahamas I bring flip flops and a swimsuit.... they bring 11 pound purses. lol Awesome vid!
+steveo1kinevo - Thanks buddy - And yes - that was a funny moment - she's a little lady, but she had a lot of luggage :) She's also an awesome pilot - she flys tail wheel and acro!
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We girls need our 'stuff'. lol
+steveo1kinevo Well, at least you can handle a little extra load in the TBM or Caravan! Imagine that RG was floating right on the edge of gross!
+Astrogirl1usa We pilots require a balanced plane. NO LOL.
Jake Linnell Really?? I would have never guessed. Learn to enjoy a joke.
Love it! I flew in a couple of times just for the experience, but I live only about an hour drive away, that's usually easier. Always interesting to see videos of people flying the OSH arrival over an area that I fly around the rest of the year.
Sometimes I forget how spoiled I was going to flight school at Oshkosh. The airport comes to life in the most vivid way imaginable two weeks out of the year. After flying in Wisconsin for the past 8 years though I wanted a different change of pace & moved to Augusta, GA for a chief CFI position. The Masters Golf Tournament is in two weeks but the traffic volume won't be anywhere near as dense as Airventure. Oh, and South Bend I think has THE most comfy chairs any pilot lounge I've been to.
Awesome! I live a mile southeast of Wittman runway 36. I go just about every year. Hope to see you in 2016. Keep up the awesome.
Beautiful storm video. What a great video this was, sharing with friends. Keep it up. Go Canada!
My wife is the pilot, and she loved how you involved your passenger in the operations too. Great T6 footage - I have some great Harvard footage from my uncle's Harvard out of Calgary from about 10 years ago. Good times.
I flew in as a passenger in a Cherokee Six in 1981. Very busy, very crowded, but very efficient. I had a private at the time, but was not PIC for this trip. Fun to watch this vid and remember how intense it was, and how much fun the whole week was ! Thanks for posting !
Steve! You've been holding out on us brother...;) That was some fine storm, decision making, and arrival footage. Congrats to you and your 'crew' for a safe OSH landing.
+Paul Carstens - thanks Paul! And haha, yes, as you know I am months behind editing what I have filmed ;)
Perfect example of "shut your mouth when talking to me" Control tower and pilot. Your video is very educational.
This is insane! I flew in SoCal area for a while, but this...unbelievable
I've got a cool story about the controller who welcomed me to Oshkosh '15 and had me rock my wings. I recognised his voice six months later flying over Jacksonville, and we ended up trading email addresses. he's doing sun n' fun, and he's giving us a "behind the flightline" tour this year.
+slippymitc THAT is awesome! Can I get in on that tour? :) (no pressure :)
Another fabulous video! Those storm clouds looked Nasty! Glad the weather cleared up for you afterwards.
I just came back to watching this video after one year and watching so many more videos in the meantime and I have to say, that you are an idol of mine. Really professional stuff.
Brilliant video as always. Thank you Steve.
+FlightChops I can really feel this videos, thanks!
I was at that Applebees that day during that storm!!! It's 2 mins from house, wish I had known you were there. Thanks for the vids!
+Robert Archer small world!
Wicked storms! Glad you made it okay. Thanks for the peeks into the world of flying. I enjoy all of your videos, so much. : )
+Astrogirl1usa - Thanks! Happy to share!
Great video as always. Hope to run into you at Airventure 2016. I'll be bringing a Stearman in for the weekend at Warbirds :)
3 words for any pilots trying to fly into that nasty squall line, RUN LIKE HELL!
I usually complain about too much traffic in the area when 4 or 5 other aeroplanes are within 3nm around... Clearly I have no idea what too much traffic is.
+DoctorDARKSIDE - Haha - we'll yeah... this is a whole other level :)
Try training in KFRG. It has a average of over 500 aircraft a day and nestled close to LGA,JFK,and EWR along with all the planes flying in from Europe all on approach about 8000 feet above you. God it's interesting.
I'll tell you working at an FBO that is within 1 hour flying time to KOSH on the weekend before it officially opens is a blast. I've worked line for almost 10 years and I love it. Of course I work the Saturday and Sunday before it opens and then Sunday I blast off and head on over.
To those that are thinking about flying into Oshkosh, plan ahead. Plan well ahead. Study the NOTAM, reading it the night before is not a good practice. Also, know the other airports in the area just in case KOSH is closed or is turning away people. Be calm but be alert.
As a line guy I can tell you I've seen people on their way to KOSH land at our airport with their gear still up. I've seen people taxi in with missing fuel caps (guy forgot to put the cap back on at his last fuel stop, it was self service). Someone even took off with their tie down rope still underneath the wing somehow.
Wow steve! GREAT VIDEO!!! this makes me want to go to oshkosh this summer :-)
Fab video yet again mate... Hopefully one day I'll make it across the pond to Oshkosh 😂
I was at IRCHA 2011, in Muncie IN and Saturday night we got hit by one of the most impressive squall lines I have ever seen. It was the same one that flipped the stage at the SugarLand Concert 45 minutes earlier. Have to say the light show was impressive to say the least and it was moving between 50-70 mph. Glad I was on the ground. That part of the country can get some pretty wicked thunder storms.
Wish I knew you were in Kincardine! Totally would have come out and said hi! That's where our club plane for Port Elgin is stored during the winter.
+Andy Plater - I'll be back - Love Kincardine! And the farm house is still in the family :)
Can't wait to see you at sun 'n fun it's my first time. :)
+Little Cube - right on!
I went flying in an RV-10 at a small airport a few miles away from the Oshkosh airspace during the airshow. The radios were going nuts we made sure not to get too close :P Great video! Thanks for sharing.
Nice video! Someday I want to go to Oshkosh, looks fun!
Oh man, that was intense!
Remember my first trip to OSH in my "new" 51 Navion. single pilot following my buddies Rangemaster. We got lucky as it wasn't that busy the day we flew in. Saturday before the show. Watched a Bonanza hit the spot and blow a main. Lucky we didn't have to spot land to hard.
I can't be the only one that noticed that C-FGHX is the same RV that your buddy over in PEI has watching this back.
crazy how dat work
That's another dream of mine to fly to the Oshkosh Air Show myself! Cool video!
man this reminds me of flying into sun n fun. I'm lucky enough to live less than hour from Lakeland so I used to go every year. It's always amazing when all the other planes just....appear
Hey! South Bend! I work maintenance there during the summer! Seeing this now for the first time and I'm pretty bummed I didn't run into you, I would've loved to have said hi!
Such an amazing experience and also great editing! :)
I'm learning to fly at oshkosh. Its cool that I fly this airport and surrounding area all the time. Its mostly a training airport the rest of the year and no where this busy. Come visit the wings as eagles hanger on taxiway hotel next EAA.
Oshkosh should get you to make an official FISK arrival procedure video (I'm not kidding).
+Geoffrey Gallaway - haha - thanks! And yeah, I'd happily take that gig! Anyone from EAA watching? ;)
Crazy ATC and crazy weather = Nice flight and video!
Fly in on Thursday gang and you can get full ATC with no traffic and watch all the mass arrivals on Friday which include around 100 Bonanzas (sometimes more) , Mooneys, Cessnas and more, awesome!!
Wow, best ATC ever!
Hehe, I got stuck in the same hangar 2 years earlier when I was on my way to KOSH. Was Cathy still running the shop there?
Cool video. Nice to meet u guys Mel
Ayee I flew in same route to airventure 2015
That storm was nuts. I live west of the Rockies so we don't get squall line thunderstorms just huge group of scattered nasty ones
Wow that's some serious ATC going down!
Man that ATC is doing work.
Wish I could go this year, nice seeing the flow of ALL of those aircraft, it must be crazy and probably crazy scary! Surprised there's not a lot of crashes...
+GSOaviator They run it incredibly well - like clock work - everyone is very professional.
Man - you made the Fisk arrival, but missed the ZBiF departure - had to watch on me PC today. ;)
Very nice episode, by the way - the extra time editing always makes for great episodes.
Looks like a blast!
Wow, I haven't watched one of your videos since Fear of flying Toronto. Is that controller a farm auctioneer also? Sounded like Kennedy, Friday night at 6 p m, December 21. Any year. Great one, thanks Mr Chops!
wow jeez t storms then tornado warned I bet that was crazy good thing that I was not there but planning on making it to air venture this year
You guys rock!!!
I think I would suffer a heart attack flying into Oshkosh. Good lord is that busy and hectic.
Nice. No rush.
Wow that was intense. Just listening to the radio chatter made me sweat. Some day I would like to try to fly in there. Good job on the editing. It's good to see that I'm not the only one troubled by low batteries.
Meeting some place to make a flight of 2 or more could work better for you. That flight of 8 landing before you must of had some fun. Actually a video on coordinating things in a flight of 2 or more would be nice for those that have never tried it. Works good for getting out of busy airports preventing getting separated and reduces waiting for departure times for others..
Nice ... well done!
Pretty Neat! I was actually at Fisk Ground control. I remember calling out the Ercoupe flight of 8 coming down the tracks. Quick question, how visible is the Fisk trailer from the sky? There are bright LED lights on the trailer so that pilots can see the "Fisk tower". Cool to see the journey!
+flyingace478 - Awesome! I was wondering if an Osh controller would end up seeing this! You Guys Rock! I don't remember seeing the trailer in real life - I was busy looking for traffic, and then after I was like, damn, I meant to look for that trailer - I think I can pick it out in the footage, it is pretty small though.
"AirVenture isn't a destination; it's a state-of-mind"
Wait, is the ATC handling all this with a pair of binoculars or something? And I thought Kennedy Steve was a badass!
That was a good video with good tips. Fortunately your buddy's plane did not get damaged by hail always happy to see that. Also has the super cubs owner decided what he is going to do with it yet?
+CME Gordy - Thanks - And we'll know the fate of the Super Cub soon...
ok well good luck with that as always
im trying to get plane tickets up to oshkosh this year. I really want go, if/when i do I hope to meet you.
Very nice!
This is the year I have to miss Sun-N-Fun, first time in the last few years I miss. (Oh no!)
+Alex Feldstein Ah well - this will be my first time!
***** Can't go during the week. Still trying to see if my friend with a Bonanza can go for just one day in the weekend. Maybe, just maybe.
Crazy to think at 8:50 you were right over my house.
Another great video! Well done. =D
Nice video of the storm. I'm a little bit of a weather geek and if a storm is tornado warned I guess it would be off Kosh or bust but I would say stick to the ground and don't go flying or tornado. That's my advice.
One of these years I'll get up there. Why does work get crazy in the summer?
You guys went through an Air adventure Flying to Air adventure
+stealhty1 - Haha - yes, exactly :)
WHAT! No Landing vid!....bugga......awesome man really awesome.....
+Mick Martin - haha - yeah, the cam that died had the good view and ATC audio tapped in... But I figured the T6 cockpit view of landing at Osh was a good trade off ;)
The T6 ( How in the hell did you pull that one off!) looked fantastic I'll check it out when I can...Keep up the great work mate Cheers!
Haha, we could use these controllers when the Young Eagles do their flights.
You stopped in South Bend?! I live in the area. I'm on a fire department next city over also. Mishawaka. I also live like a half hour away from SB airport in Elkhart. And I'm lucky enough to have my new backyard the Mishawaka Pilots Club airport- 3C1. Literally my backyard.
excellent video guys. very intense but lots of chatter.
You coming back this year? It'd be great to see you!
+AlecFlying - Affirm! I'll be at OSH 2016!
Awesome!!!
I'am scared on big planes but I'am sure I'd feel very safe fllying in yours.
+irsute8833 It's the other way around. On this small planes you feel everything. If you're not expecting it, it definitely can put you on alert. On an airliner you just relax and watch a movie.
I don't trust theses gigantic planes flown by strangers. I know it's not really rational though.
+irsute8833 Its highly irrational b
Great Video!! Cant wait to do that someday! BTW I took my PP Checkride at Atlantic Aviation in KSBN!! Those chairs are Amazing!!
Nice video. I thought there were too many unnecessary comments from the right seat during the final stages of the FISK arrival.
+John Dill - yes, that is why I mentioned it in the voice over... And the on screen text.
+FlightChops I'm glad you mentioned it, but even so, I kept thinking "geez you guys, shut up!". But I can totally see myself doing the same thing. I'll learn from you :-)
Really looking forward to my first trip to AirVenture this year!
I need friends like this. simple.
Holy shit the ATC was fast. They could probably even give the ATC at JFK or LHR a run for their money.
Awesome video :O
I’m gonna go therrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeee!!!!!!
That storm looks like a derecho.
There could be over 100 mph wind in parts of that.
Nothing wrong with Appleton. Lol. Its my local airport, and is a lot less busy than Oshkosh.
I live 15 minutes away from Oshkosh
Grew up in Kincardine. Scott's street.
why does the cam always die at the most important time? lol, great vid
Wow busy radio!
You missed your battery checks in the excitement dude. 6/10 good effort.
+Dave Jones - haha - yes fair enough - but do I get 10/10 for being a good safety pilot? That was my main concern. Also, if you'd like to see the Osh arrival and our Orange Dot landing with out the ATC audio from the over the shoulder cam, I might share that one privately...
You TAXIED into an enclosed hangar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did you ever consider what your prop blast might do to other aircraft, raising dust on the floor and covering everything in sight? If you're ever in that much of a hurry then the proper way to do it is to kill the engine before you enter and coast over the threshold.
Awesome :)
what weather app/program did you use to show all those storms? great video btw loved it
OK, don't be complaining about an 11# purse.
BTDT myself :)
+Gwen Walcott :)
Did you end up flying over the FNT VOR? Just curious because that's my home airport.
Funny seeing my home airport on your flight plan KARR. Did you land or just go direct to Oshkosh?
+Daniel Waters didn't land there - just over flew. would have liked to visit my friend Jared who is based there too, but at that point were were already 2 days behind our proposed schedule.
+FlightChops I see. You should come back and take a trip down the skyline, if you haven't all ready! It's a view like no other! Just have to stay under the Class Bravo!
Why did you decide to fly if you knew there was such bad weather?
i wanna fly a plane like that above a tornado and get the data from it to give to nws to save lifes would this be possible ??????????
Do those cells pop up quite a bit due to the great lakes?
+andrewdoyle88 - In this case it was several powerful cold fronts that came through back to back (if I remember correctly). You can see the shape of the fronts curving as they rotate around the big low pressure system that was to the north. But yes, the moist air from the great lakes provides a great deal of fuel for a cold front to sweep up into the higher altitudes and build squall lines.
This is what we did with our Saturday...Probably wrote the www.windyty.com app.
Hmm not bad.
Low and slow is a mess. Fly 2300' and 130kts if able
I don't know if that's a typo or not, but isn't it AirVenture 2016?
+Aleks Pankratov Airventure 2016 hasn't happened yet. The Airshow is at the end of July.
Veritas1992 Ok then, thank you for the clarification. This would then be a recap from last year's, right?
Yup.
Veritas1992 Thanks!