I’m an air traffic controller so I appreciate the departure controller’s sense of humor about OSH. I have two goals in life 1. Work Airventure from the tower 2. Build an airplane and fly it to the show
If you're a NATCA member, you might make sure to attend a 4 Square briefing so you are making Roth TSP contribs, in the C/S/I funds and understand FERS... ;)
Good goals @Morphmixologyreptiles I would like to suggest that you start building your plane of choice as soon as possible. That way you can repeat goal 2 over and over again. 😎
Live in Ripon. Just seeing this is awesome. I'm sure you flew right over my house. Every year I find myself standing in the driveway just watching all these planes. Thanks for posting and stay safe.
From an old [75] pilot, very nice; reminded me of a GA airport Morabbin in Australia that had a Left a Centre and a Right, all the same direction! Thank You.
I’m retired controller, 45 year pilot and loved this. Never flown for OSH Air Venture but maybe next year. Won’t be down low in my C414A though…nice job done by all.
Great stuff! Oh, memories for the approach into Oshkosh! The RWY is like landing in a parking lot …. so wide! So well organized with all the volunteers. Have fun. The weather looked great for your arrival. Blue skies!
I could see the anticipation on your face when they called you. Your face read like a book there: "Owww yeah, that's me. I'll show 'em a wing rock!" Beautiful video!
Great paint job and it looks like windows at your feet? Bet that makes it easier to check for the railroad tracks. I could almost feel the childlike glee after the controllers response to that rock. They might not like it, but maybe ‘next’ time you could expand it to a ‘Rock and Roll’
Good news. You don’t really have to work your ears up until you’re close to FISKE and then you switch to tower. Unfortunately the GoPro that was doing audio lost power when I got to the airport so I don’t have that tower.
Waited all year just for that wing rock! Awesome lol.. Id do the same if I had a capable plane. Well, I take that back.. I'd do it a little differently. Smoke on, Full roll, inverted wing rock, and back to level . They'd love it, but I'd be in trouble. 😂
About 2 hours each leg. Around 300-350nm. This one only carries 42 gallons so I run the wings down and land. Usually have 45 minutes reserve. The pedals are movable so you can stretch your legs out.
I couldn't quite see the tail except as you rolled back upright but it looks like there was a little opposite rudder (Dutch roll)? I can see the right aileron alright. Full deflection!
Looking at it again, it’s a right roll with right rudder. You may be seeing the rudder horn which provides aerodynamic balance during rudder deflection. It is in front of the pivot so it moves opposite of the rest of the rudder.
@@SpreadAviation Oh right, that makes sense! It was a nice, crisp roll whatever you did. There wasn't enough time for the plane to turn, but I was still interested to see how you maintained the ground track.
Just found your video, thanks for sharing. I like watching videos of pilots flying to Airventure (some of us locals call it EAA) and listening to some of the ATC's at Fisk, sometimes get some good ones. I'm not a pilot, but I get a copy of the notes or notices from EAA website. Just wondering are the planes from Ripon to Oshkosh at 1800 or 2300 feet? Looks like the train tracks a along side of Highway 44. If so, looks like it would be a fun ride on 44 to see the flightline. Gonna be at Airventure 2023? aka EAA.
Hi thanks for the comment. There’s two altitudes. 1800 and 2300 and there’s two speeds 90 and 130 respectively. Slower airplanes are lower. Sitting at the side of the road while airplanes fly by would be fun. You could also get really close to the ATC facility where they’re directing us. I’ll be there, give a follow on Instagram for updates. I’m usually around the IAC building next to Boeing Plaza.
@@SpreadAviation Thanks for replying, I was at Fisk Approach control last year. I just thought it would be fun to be driving down the road and seeing the planes flying into Oshkosh besides standing in one place watching the planes fly by. I'll try it. I'll be at Airventure 2023 1 or 2 days not sure what days, I have vacation at work that week so I can decide what day(s) to go. Safe travels to you and enjoy Airventure 2023.
They are. Sometimes I say “gear down and welded”. It’s a habit pattern. There are two clubs: those who have landed with the gear up, and those that will. The point is to stay in the second club as long as possible.
I’ve come close only on one occasion and got the gear horn. I am so overly cautious now about not ever doing it I am annoying on approach and check it 3 to 4 times.
The maps, charts and NOTAMs have spelled it FISK for many years. When will all those typos get corrected...or is it just possible that the spelling in the video is in error?
WOW!! Amazing air traffic controllers Obviously very experienced and what a process Curious what type of shifts they are working in the tower with that amount of traffic???? A color-blind pilot would not be a good fit for this process of landing on colored dots
Im am not a pilot and obviously your wing rock was enjoyed by all (including tower). But I am curious, 91.303 defines “aerobatic flight” as “an intentional maneuver involving an abrupt change in the airplane’s attitude not necessary for normal flight”. Is a hard, 90 degree “wing rock” like that technically considered aerobatic flight? You mention aerobatic flight would be allowed at that time and place, so it would be fine. But I am just curious if a maneuver like that would be allowed whenever.
Also that reg says “not necessary for normal flight”. There has cases tried in the past where airplane performed a maneuver perceived by the inspector to be an aerobatic maneuver, but when it went in front of the FAA they determined that for the operation that was being conducted, the maneuver in question was not unnecessary.
wow! great video, love it!, this looks like good handled chaos xD but do bigger planes also land like this like in the queue? for example a cessna citation?
The camera that was recording comms is behind my head. Because it’s inaccessible during flight I have to start it when I get in the aircraft. In this case it died about an hour and half after starting it in Gary, Indiana. The full audio is available on LiveATC.net for the 1730-1800 time period. I was sad I missed it too.
@@SpreadAviation sorry for the confusion, I didn’t mean you, was referring to all of the bonanzas and RVs controller was talking to up there. I’ll give an extra300 a pass. 😂. I have the same issue in the champ, I literally can’t go 90 knots…
With this kind of ATC mess I would just divert to a nice quiet non-towered place and go get some wings, I mean, buffalo wings. And reflect on what saint of a man is dating those tower ladies…. That’s some serious nagging!
It would of been better had you not started playing that ridiculous elevator music around 16 minutes the whole point was to hear atc and see your flight and landing into oshkosh
Yeah. Except the camera recording the ATC audio died so I figured ridiculous elevator music was slightly better than silence or prop noise. It I did grab it later and it’s here: ua-cam.com/video/7vs85ZDW6-M/v-deo.html
I’m an air traffic controller so I appreciate the departure controller’s sense of humor about OSH.
I have two goals in life
1. Work Airventure from the tower
2. Build an airplane and fly it to the show
Never stop working towards those goals!
If you're a NATCA member, you might make sure to attend a 4 Square briefing so you are making Roth TSP contribs, in the C/S/I funds and understand FERS... ;)
all it takes is money
May the pink shirt be yours one day
Good goals @Morphmixologyreptiles
I would like to suggest that you start building your plane of choice as soon as possible. That way you can repeat goal 2 over and over again. 😎
Live in Ripon. Just seeing this is awesome. I'm sure you flew right over my house. Every year I find myself standing in the driveway just watching all these planes. Thanks for posting and stay safe.
Thank you! Hope you make it to the show!
Best wing rock of Oshkosh 2022 - 13:34
Haha, thanks.
This needs to be pinned to the top! Liked watching airplane videos but trying to find a 1 sec maneuver in a 22 min video…….
@talonpilot when you mouse over the timeline, there’s a big peak on the exciting parts.
Everyone loved that rock, you could hear them in the background.
That’s my favorite part.
13:35 is the wing rock
Now THAT is a rock! You could hear the other controllers cheering in the background 😅
‘Merica
Man what a wing rock! I was smiling right there with you, I could hear the controllers enjoying it too. Hate that I couldn't make it this year...
There’s always next year!
@@SpreadAviation Absolutely! Hoping I'm not in training, the FOMO is real!!
Good luck either way!
From an old [75] pilot, very nice; reminded me of a GA airport Morabbin in Australia that had a Left a Centre and a Right, all the same direction! Thank You.
Thank you for commenting!
13:36 like the laugh and applause you got in atc.
Nailed it
You know it's a good wing rock when all the controllers even ooh and ahh at it, especially at KOSH.
Nailed it
proper wing rock, should have done a full roll
“Next” time
It's officially "next time"! Where's our aileron snap roll video?:)
@loreneck4307 oh my, I’ve been called out! This year I took JetBlue. The Extra is in maintenance. But there’s always… next year.
Baddest wing rock ever. He spent all day prepping for that move.
More like 16 years of aerobatic flying to prep.
That was the best wing rock ever!
Thank you
great video. good audio and bad ass wing rock. enjoy the show
Thank you!
Holy smokes! That’s some busyness happening. Hopefully I’ll make it out there one of these years.
Just gotta listen and wait for them to call your “number”.
Awesome video and nice job putting it on the dot brother! I hope you have a great time at Oshkosh
Thank you! Come say hi if you’re here. The aircraft is at IAC
Continue on to the orange dot.Nice one!
Thank you
Wow. That's intense on a higher level. Good job.
Thanks!
I’m retired controller, 45 year pilot and loved this. Never flown for OSH Air Venture but maybe next year. Won’t be down low in my C414A though…nice job done by all.
You’ll want to checkout this years video of the warbird arrival.
Thanks Rob…. Living it vicariously!
Next year, we're in formation...
Great stuff! Oh, memories for the approach into Oshkosh! The RWY is like landing in a parking lot …. so wide! So well organized with all the volunteers. Have fun. The weather looked great for your arrival. Blue skies!
Thank you! Hope you’re at the show!
Love the paint job. Looks like my trike aircraft.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
‘Merica
Good on you, giving the controllers a story for the day with that over-achieving wing rock. :D 10 m S of Portage? Wow.
Thanks for the vid, and Aloha!
What a fantastic . . .FANTASTIC paint job
Thank you!
I could see the anticipation on your face when they called you. Your face read like a book there: "Owww yeah, that's me. I'll show 'em a wing rock!"
Beautiful video!
Great paint job and it looks like windows at your feet? Bet that makes it easier to check for the railroad tracks.
I could almost feel the childlike glee after the controllers response to that rock. They might not like it, but maybe ‘next’ time you could expand it to a ‘Rock and Roll’
Haha. Yeah plexiglass floors made following the tracks super easy. I figured the rock was a necessary acceleration required for the operation.
Phantoms Phorever! Great decal on the helmet!
Love the Phantom!
That ATC is incredible! I'm pretty damn good at following a fast CO. But, she was rambling so damn fast, I couldn't keep up.
Good news. You don’t really have to work your ears up until you’re close to FISKE and then you switch to tower. Unfortunately the GoPro that was doing audio lost power when I got to the airport so I don’t have that tower.
Waited all year just for that wing rock! Awesome lol.. Id do the same if I had a capable plane. Well, I take that back.. I'd do it a little differently. Smoke on, Full roll, inverted wing rock, and back to level . They'd love it, but I'd be in trouble. 😂
If you already have the NASA form filled out…
That was awesome! Absolutely loved it!
Wooo!
That smile with the wing rock! 😎😎
Can't say it wasn't fun.
What was the deal with that canard that almost ran you over at 14:55? Looks like he had to peel off.
That’s what we call a duck move
That was fun! Makes me miss my days as a pilot. Thanks for a great ride!
You can always fly with a CFI.
3:30 not the cirrus getting scolded again 😂
The amount of radio calls missed due to Bluetooth music playing needs to be studied.
Another Awesome Vid
Thank you!
@@SpreadAviation how is the extra as a cross country machine what were each leg like length wise before becoming uncomfortable
About 2 hours each leg. Around 300-350nm. This one only carries 42 gallons so I run the wings down and land. Usually have 45 minutes reserve. The pedals are movable so you can stretch your legs out.
@@SpreadAviation thats not too shabby
Wow love the final! That YAW!
Wow! , thanks for sharing your blessings!
you're welcome
Shit I just fell out of my chair and onto the floor with that wing rock 😂
911 for any emergencies. Advil for any soreness.
cute lil helmet and sunglasses
Gracias
I couldn't quite see the tail except as you rolled back upright but it looks like there was a little opposite rudder (Dutch roll)? I can see the right aileron alright. Full deflection!
Opposite rudder certainly wasn’t intentional. More like insufficient rudder for the rate of roll. Not perfect, but still a good showing.
Looking at it again, it’s a right roll with right rudder. You may be seeing the rudder horn which provides aerodynamic balance during rudder deflection. It is in front of the pivot so it moves opposite of the rest of the rudder.
@@SpreadAviation Oh right, that makes sense! It was a nice, crisp roll whatever you did. There wasn't enough time for the plane to turn, but I was still interested to see how you maintained the ground track.
@@practiCalfMRI If the elevator isn't deflected, the airplane doesn't turn. ua-cam.com/users/shorts9ru1sURmQbw
Living the dream. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for this vid... I will never fly at Osh... I actually had to mute that... Great flying though.. Love the plane
It’s not for everyone but available to all. Thanks for watching.
My stepson overhearing this video said: “what is that?! Man it sounds stressful!” I’ll get there again…haven’t been since 2000
I think the controls have the most stress. Especially when us pilots don’t listen.
You can hear applause after your rock. Next year do a roll.
Haha. Technically it’s legal in the airspace, but I don’t want to be “that” guy.
Just found your video, thanks for sharing. I like watching videos of pilots flying to Airventure (some of us locals call it EAA) and listening to some of the ATC's at Fisk, sometimes get some good ones. I'm not a pilot, but I get a copy of the notes or notices from EAA website. Just wondering are the planes from Ripon to Oshkosh at 1800 or 2300 feet? Looks like the train tracks a along side of Highway 44. If so, looks like it would be a fun ride on 44 to see the flightline. Gonna be at Airventure 2023? aka EAA.
Hi thanks for the comment. There’s two altitudes. 1800 and 2300 and there’s two speeds 90 and 130 respectively. Slower airplanes are lower. Sitting at the side of the road while airplanes fly by would be fun. You could also get really close to the ATC facility where they’re directing us. I’ll be there, give a follow on Instagram for updates. I’m usually around the IAC building next to Boeing Plaza.
@@SpreadAviation Thanks for replying, I was at Fisk Approach control last year. I just thought it would be fun to be driving down the road and seeing the planes flying into Oshkosh besides standing in one place watching the planes fly by. I'll try it. I'll be at Airventure 2023 1 or 2 days not sure what days, I have vacation at work that week so I can decide what day(s) to go. Safe travels to you and enjoy Airventure 2023.
@@markpiasecki8084 Excellent! Make sure to follow Spread Aviation on Instagram for updates on the show! Enjoy your vacation!
Thanks for sharing. What engine do you have. Sounds Great
AEIO-540. 6 cylinder Lycoming
@@SpreadAviation is it a mod… sounds like a muscle car 🙌🏾
14:38 - Gear down and locked? Is that just good habit development or a real part of the checklist? Aren't the gear fixed?
They are. Sometimes I say “gear down and welded”. It’s a habit pattern. There are two clubs: those who have landed with the gear up, and those that will. The point is to stay in the second club as long as possible.
I’ve come close only on one occasion and got the gear horn. I am so overly cautious now about not ever doing it I am annoying on approach and check it 3 to 4 times.
Next year I bring my F4 Phantom and im doing a flyby at mach 1 on the deck.
I’ll be there with ear plugs!
That wing-rock though!
Precise!
Awesome rock!!!
Thank you
Somebody badly wanted an RV to back off lol
Seems like he might’ve been trying to overtake someone who wasn’t having it
That. Is. Insane.
In. The. Membrane.
it's at 13:30
You found it!
The wing rock equivalent of BOO-YA!!!
‘Merica
The maps, charts and NOTAMs have spelled it FISK for many years.
When will all those typos get corrected...or is it just possible that the spelling in the video is in error?
I spelled the Waypoint. Fisk is the name of the town.
But I do appreciate the comments!
WOW!!
Amazing air traffic controllers
Obviously very experienced and what a process
Curious what type of shifts they are working in the tower with that amount of traffic????
A color-blind pilot would not be a good fit for this process of landing on colored dots
No thanks, I have a head ache just listening to ATC.
mute the video but play something from here in the background: ua-cam.com/users/YellowBrickCinema
It sounds like a lot but it’s really not bad at all
No kidding! How do you if they’re talking to you?
To the initiated, Fisk ATC is pillow talk.
It has lulled me to sleep on occasion.
Awesome!!!
Thank you
Nice, how it's done. Props!
Thank you
Why rock when you can roll! ahahahah! Awesome
Send it!
Sir what type of plane are you flying here?
Extra 300
What a fun video! TY!
You’re welcome!
They don't pay those controllers enough!!!
But… they volunteered.
It'd be cool to seen an acrobatic plane do a full around aileron roll for their rock. :)
It’ll be somebody else. That spot meets the legal requirements for aerobatics, I’m just not willing to be “that guy”.
Im am not a pilot and obviously your wing rock was enjoyed by all (including tower). But I am curious, 91.303 defines “aerobatic flight” as “an intentional maneuver involving an abrupt change in the airplane’s attitude not necessary for normal flight”. Is a hard, 90 degree “wing rock” like that technically considered aerobatic flight? You mention aerobatic flight would be allowed at that time and place, so it would be fine. But I am just curious if a maneuver like that would be allowed whenever.
Also that reg says “not necessary for normal flight”. There has cases tried in the past where airplane performed a maneuver perceived by the inspector to be an aerobatic maneuver, but when it went in front of the FAA they determined that for the operation that was being conducted, the maneuver in question was not unnecessary.
The atc is a nightmare!
That’s why they rotate controllers every couple of minutes.
13:32 Wing rock.
Found it!
Awesome air frame. Nice video.
Thank you
wow! great video, love it!, this looks like good handled chaos xD but do bigger planes also land like this like in the queue? for example a cessna citation?
I they generally do an IFR arrival
Did anyone notice the plane in the ploughed field at 10:26? What's the story there?
It was a plane flying on the lower arrival track (1800'). They were just offset from the tracks a bit.
Marty G is correct, but good eye.
Now that's a wing rock!
Darn right!
it has to be disheartening to be cut out of line and sent back to start over--so close,so busy
Take full tanks and an empty bladder.
Awesome 😁👍
Thanks!
No way in hell. If i ever go there it will be by walking!!!
Take a CFI!
@@SpreadAviation I don't even know what that is...
Oooh. A flight instructor.
That cockpit looks familiar.
You may have seen it in our Flight to a Championship playlist
@@SpreadAviation 🤔... I think I've been in it before several times actually....😁
Cool! Do you have history with this airplane? Always curious to hear where these airplanes have been!
@@SpreadAviation The type aircraft yes, 300L , 330L. Videos on my channel, they were rentals.
Freaking badass!
Yaarp
Nice rock is at 13:35ish
Thank you
That was crazy!!
lol
Most impressive part was watching your lack of WTF when the EZ screamed by, breaking every rule of engagement. I wish I had your calm.
really
Don’t play poker with me… there was certainly some WTF going on.
@@SpreadAviation whats the timestamp? i must keep missing it.
14:50
13:37 ❤
Why dont they use aircraft Numbers, sounds like chaos
There’s so many aircraft in such a tight spacing that doing the two way communication would clutter the frequency even more.
Why did you kill the coms on downwind?
The camera that was recording comms is behind my head. Because it’s inaccessible during flight I have to start it when I get in the aircraft. In this case it died about an hour and half after starting it in Gary, Indiana. The full audio is available on LiveATC.net for the 1730-1800 time period. I was sad I missed it too.
@@SpreadAviation Thanks for the response and thanks for the ride
👍
Haha I really thought you messed up and was covering up the mistake since I was enjoying the comms. Thanks for the clarification. Bad me for judging.
There is a Short of the landing that includes the comms and they were epic too which is why I was disappointed. I’ll link it.
Extra "RV" Oshkosh Arrival #shorts
ua-cam.com/video/7vs85ZDW6-M/v-deo.html
Nice job! 😂
Thanks
Oshkosh is the last place I would want to be in July; heat, humidity, and thousands of people🙁
Afghanistan and Arizona are significantly higher on my list.
beautiful rock.. continue down ..straight ahead to 27 ..RV 😂🤣
Thanks Doc. Ain’t no RV’s rocking like that.
What is the orange pad on helmet??
It’s a visor protector. I had the sunglasses on so I didn’t need the visor.
What plane is this please?
Extra 300
@@SpreadAviation thank you! It’s a beauty!
Thank you!
Nuts!!!
I wanted 36…
Nice video, loved it. Watched it while listening to arrivals 2023. One question, is the orange forehead pad to prevent the helmet scuffing the canopy?
More to protect the visor. I had the sunglasses on so didn’t need the visor.
Nice Rock! :D
Thank you!
Approach and landing would have been much more interesting seen from a front view camera.
I bought more cameras for this year.
20:49
RVs up high acting like they can’t do 90 knots😂
Haha. Wasn’t an RV, ‘twas an Extra 300.
@@SpreadAviation sorry for the confusion, I didn’t mean you, was referring to all of the bonanzas and RVs controller was talking to up there. I’ll give an extra300 a pass. 😂. I have the same issue in the champ, I literally can’t go 90 knots…
Yeah if it’s a high wing it’s a Cessna, low wing an RV, maybe you can fly the Warbird arrival.
Wonder what kind of reaction someone would get if they rolled right around. Wonder if anyone has done it. Overachiever!!!!!
Trying to avoid being the first if it’s not already been done…. But legally that area fits for aerobatic flight.
With this kind of ATC mess I would just divert to a nice quiet non-towered place and go get some wings, I mean, buffalo wings. And reflect on what saint of a man is dating those tower ladies…. That’s some serious nagging!
If we could just do what we’re told…
Would have rather heard ATC than the music
Yeah, the GoPro recording atc died joining downwind.
omg another wanna be music video producer pilot
You caught me… you caught the tater
It would of been better had you not started playing that ridiculous elevator music around 16 minutes the whole point was to hear atc and see your flight and landing into oshkosh
Yeah. Except the camera recording the ATC audio died so I figured ridiculous elevator music was slightly better than silence or prop noise.
It I did grab it later and it’s here: ua-cam.com/video/7vs85ZDW6-M/v-deo.html
I don't know why but I like listening to that women best for some reason. Ha!
She really did a stellar job.
Total DILF.
Nice doggy. Cute little pooch. Maybe I've got a Milk-Bone.
@@SpreadAviation Woof! Woof! 🦴
Got tired of waiting...
13:34
Music Is stupido keep it real
Read other comments as to why there is music… but thanks for the feedback.