Just completed installing mine and now have 70 miles on it so still taking it easy for a few more hundred miles... But I have to say, I am so glad I did it. It really makes a noticeable improvement. This is all I will be doing to the bike. No sense on going for big bore kit... this is not a bike to be searching for major performance improvements. There are other bikes for that. But this was just the additional push it needed for the bike to feel just right.
Not sure you every got around to this, Nathan, I just did. Recommend it! Feels like a different bike! Spent four hours on the Himi today after having been careful with it since the install. The install, btw, wasn't easy. I'm a complete amateur so it felt daunting from the start, but I can't imagine there's more space to work with even if you're experienced... It's narrow and tight and complicated, but works! Anyway - I could really open the bike up in third, fourth and fifth gear today. It's got much more to give with the cam installed. Smooth and strong. Very cool.
Thanks for the information on the relay problem hopefully save someone an expensive visit to the garage, look forward to seeing you fitting the cam and the end result 👍
Now that was interesting - and if you carry a couple of relays - a simple fix. I’ll be very interested in the cam swap video when you’re ready, and the performance measuring one. Don’t forget to measure the ‘stock’ machine first! Les
Great video, I agree with you about that color Himmie looking good dirty haha. When I bought mine here in California 2 months ago, the only choice left were that and a Rock Red. I took the red, but yours kinda makes me regret that. Looking forward to more videos!
I had one fitted from the first batch. Does make a noticeable improvement. Just seems to make the bike 'right' I think the untouched engine is hampered by the emissions driven design. I can understand some people's reaction for fiddling for better this or that but that's the joy of biking for some and as Nathan says 200 quid for 20% improvement - it's tempting ( well was for me). My bike feels better with ever tweak ( and mile I do) Saturday I was out with my instructor as I'm doing the IAM and he was very impressed with both the looks and the performance. A bike we all know is not to be underestimated.
I used the stock MT60 extensively while off roading in the desert in New Mexico, west of El Paso, Texas. Yes, not the best tire in the world, but as you said, I learned to work with it and respect its limits. This tire has decent traction while going straight, but turning on sand was very hard with it, I often fell because my front tire would wash off. I eventually managed to change my body position to give the front tire a slight better edge, and learned to ride the Himalayan in the sand. The bike itself did great, it was the tire that was disappointing me.
I can vouch for Mike's Himalayan. I was on the Crieff Cloverleaf tour on my KTM 1090 and was very surprised how well it went around those twisty mountain roads, mind you ,he could ride well . It was only on long inclines I could zip past him
Eagerly awaiting your impressions of the TEC cam. Any updates on when you might have a verdict video ready to publish? I've been waiting on this cam since they first revealed it in the works... when? Way back last year, was it? Anyway, was interested, but wanted some real world reports on its true efficacy before buying. So, really looking forward to your unbiased thoughts...
I agree with your comments about tires. I recently came from an adventure bike rally. It seemed that everybody had proper dirt tires. I had the original tires. We were on single track, mud, creek crossing, dirt roads and gravel. My bike did very well but I did have a difficult time keeping up on the faster gravel sections. This wasn’t because I didn’t have enough power, it was because I didn’t have the same grip in the corners.
In the US, since our models are effectively a year behind, we definitely had Euro 4 equivalent bikes shipped out with bad relays. There are riders in India who claim that relays have been a consistent problem, but it definitely seems like more issues have been reported since the pandemic production era. My experience with the bad relay in my bike was that the fuel pump would prime in neutral, but not in gear. Perhaps since they upgraded the relay system in the Euro 5 models the symptoms of the problem are a bit different.
hi and thank's for your video, the relay problem has been around on the interceptor as well since they brought the first ones in to the country but alot of the problems have been put down to all that white grease they smear on the connections in order to stop corrosion during storage and transportation by salt in sea air, it all should be cleaned off and it's not only the fuel pump, any of the connecting blocks that have white grease in them are susspect, i had a problem with the speedo on my interceptor acting like a windscreen wiper and it took me a while to find it but it was the multiplug in the headlamp covered in white grease that caused it, cleaned it off and it's fine now, i can understand why they do it, but if the grease is just grease and not specially designed for the purpose it will cause a resistance build up in the circuit and stop things working as electronic stuff works on a low voltage.
Hi, I find it interesting what you say about the powertronic set up and that you have chosen the camshaft, on my bike it has a noticeable lean mixture at 4000 RPM and if you hold the throttle in that position say in third or fourth you do feel it is holding back, I do have a booster plug fitted but I feel it has not done anything for this issue, so would you think the camshaft will correct this issue? Cheers Phil
Thank's for an interesting vid.Nathan particularly, for me, the relay info. As for the cam well, i must admit i'm intrigued. I have had my bike 3 years and have got on with the power so far under many conditions of road, conditions and load and still love the thing :) so, unless you or someone else presented an unequivocal thumbs up for it, the jury is still out for me; as you said £200 for the cam plus other consumables (fitting it isn't an issue for me by the way as i'm well capable of doing the job so no other cost would be involved) is a lot of petrol or some tasty camping gear or, whatever. another point i bear in mind is, i have a very sweet running bike with no issues such as stalling and it's perfectly standard; it would be a shame if fitting the cam had any unintended negative effects. Cheers.
If the new government anti tampering regulations get passed all this type of modification (they call it tampering) will be banned. To object there is a long government form to fill in.
Regarding tyres standard one do amazing its the motor is where the grip is i crossed a mossy rushes bog got bellied got off and because didnt have agressive knobbies walked bkie out without digging down...cracking vid
Totally agree about it being the motor that generates the traction. The front wanders a bit but I think the weight of the bike (low down) that gives it some extra stability. It's a tractor.
Have a rock red, put in mods that i want to do, lith battery, irrid plug, changed headlight, tyres, heidenau k60's great for resilience here in the outback of Australia, have the tec cam to put in, overall its what makes your bike your own.
hi5, love my Rock Red. I call mine a "a backpack with wheels". Done iridium plug, Ostram Nightbreaker headlamp, lithium battery, and added 30w LED floodlamps. Still rocking CEAT tires, they aren't too shabby so far
The claims are good on the TEC cam, you'd ridden a bike with it fitted, it's really the best option, has always been that in the quest for more power is a high lift cam, noise never makes you good faster, just sounds like it does... I know.. It's the volume of air in and gas out, so filter and exhaust helps. But is it by Design that the bike only goes so fast.. or down to emissions.. after all as a long stoke their going as large as big bore can go and limits are head an single In/Ex values.. the down fall is the pig in the room - Power/Weight, and weight is the issue.. Excel Rims laced in, Ali swing arm and frame parts... then it's making it something it's not and spending money.. I love mine, a BS4 for what it is and it does it well, as on the box, had it a box.. ;
I like the idea of the session going through typical bush fixes and servicing. Not long had my himmi so still getting to know it in detail. Is this something that's arranged by request?
Looking forward to your opinions once the cam is fitted. It seems many owners do the cam swap then change the exhaust system, add a booster plug, complete some airbox modifications, and mess around altering the TPS settings. More time and expense for something that just might make the bike feel a bit different, but not really any better? I'm sure I'm not the only one that bought their Himalayan knowing the power "limitation", but mine is just perfect as it is on the tracks around where I live, and on longer trips using well surfaced roads. Would a 20% power hike make the bike better for what I use it for? Maybe, or maybe not
I won't go any further than the cam. This is a bit of an experiment to see if the cam on its own does give noticeable gain on its own without faffing around with all the other stuff. But as you say, you definitely don't need to play around with the performance at all if you're happy how it is.
It's much more about feel than power. The bike feels much better with the TEC cam, it's far more about seat of pants impressions than dyno charts and 1/4 mile times.
Very interested to see some 0-60 times, some people on the ADVRider forums are saying there is very little change, and some are saying there is a noticeable improvement,
Indeed, I think the seat of the pants 'feel' doesn't always translate into measurable gains. The only real way to know is to have a stock bike and a modded bike side by side and see the difference directly back to back.
Flying machine !!!!! Hope your going to upgrade the brakes Nathan Will fitting this affect the warranty Totally agree regarding the tyres Buy a bike Ride it Then slowly improve what works for you
It's a good question with regards warranty. I suspect it probably could void the warranty as you're introducing an external part. Whether it would void a claim against a fault with the brakes etc though I'm not sure. Maybe it would only apply to an engine fault/fix. I'm fitting this one to the older white Himalayan, which I think is about out of warranty anyway. Then of course there's the question of telling your insurance company and whether that has an impact.
Why the 2 relays for the pump? Well, glad it got sorted anyway. Look forward to seeing this progress. I saw 3 vids yesterday on the 650 ADV , RE are supposed to launch in 2024, but it will be a heavy old beast. Im sure that 410cc motor could easily punch out 35hp without breaking. Sounds like a good event to get some modded bikes together.
@@nathanthepostman Maybe, i know the rumours have been out there. Bike wala in India said he had an inside source at RE that confirmed it, maybe just clickbait. I hope your right regarding a hot engine upgrade, it would expand the market in the West, but "we" are not their biggest market......so who knows?
There's a few Euro4's knocking about at a small discount against the E5 - Having ridden both; do you reckon there is one you prefer? There's an E4 on offer at 4200 with panniers included +OTR charges that is v.tempting.
Chris, as I own a BS4 I'd say go for it.. if a color like you. I base it on the new models have now been tuned to E5 emissions, little too notice in performance, you've ridden both. Unless you want the Trip, Switchable ABS and Hazard lights for shopping.. you'd not good wrong.. have 71 plate.. it's old stock to them.. Hand guards cost them nothing.. say it's on your wish list.. I'd not consider the RE crash bar it's unneeded weight.. if your wish GIVI sounds from others the way to go.. that's by 2p.. Cheers and many happy years safe riding.
I would say the best Himalayan is probably the last of the Euro 4 bikes. The niggles had largely been ironed out and the Euro 5 just looks to have added new niggles and no real improvements. Euro 4 bike would be the way I would go.
I've come down from John o'Groats to Devon in a day a few times, 600 miles or so, mainly on the motorway, and it'll sit at around 70mph throughout. Maybe 65mph at times on the steep hills or headwinds, but it will do a decent speed once run in.
I took mine on a 5000 km trip from SE Spain, to the Pyranees, the Picos, down through Portugal and back across Spain. Didn't do many motorways and when I did, 120kph cruising was fine.
Not badly priced for a cam upgrade. Which is in keeping with the bike's very reasonable purchase price. I have had cams metal sprayed and reground in the past and the cost is approaching that. I saw the "new cam =5HP" initially and laughed. But the price is right so why not. Haven't you fitted it yet!!! :-)
Hi Dogshome. Take your time and check my channel, especially that last video is for you: Life story: Franc Pušnik and his motorcycles. It is a must. :)
The reason its not a stock part is because it would hurt emissions especially since this a big single cylinder engine with no liquid cooling. Euro 5 is a load of shit. Would love to get the new Klr650 here in the UK but they wont pass euro 5 as it stands.
Low grade petrol is accommodated by a low compression ratio - which is 9.5 to 1 for the Himalayan. The cam more directly affects emissions. It would be interesting to see if an increase in the odor of the exhaust reveals those greater emissions.
I saw the dirty old spam doing the rounds again '650 Himalayan imminent.' I'd bet my new shiny cam that it's not happening and we get something far more up our dirt road chasing street. 650 twin lump would ruin it.
I rode with a chap along a 25 mile off road route through Death Valley in the heat of summer. I was on the Himalayan. He was on the Vstrom. With the heat and a bit of nerves he really struggled and it was getting a bit touch and go. I suggested we swapped bikes. He rode with confidence the rest of the way and we got out in one piece. I struggled on the Vstrom, the reason being that it's a road bike, with a snatchy throttle, firm road suspension and poor standing geometry. Also the engine doesn't suit trail work. They're chalk and cheese bikes to me, so a Vstrom would limit what I could do, whereas a touch more power on the Himalayan would take the heat out of the long distance riding give me a bit more overtaking squirt. But totally agree, if you were only riding on the road, then yes, a Vstrom 650 might be a better option.
@@nathanthepostman Sort of agree with you. I was speaking from an English perspective where off roading is (no matter what they say) rare - there just isn't the open wilderness you find in the USA. That said, if I were doing a lot of off roading then I would probably go for a Honda CRF250.
@@stevetaylor8698 Yeah for sure a 650 'Himalayan' would be massively popular I think, certainly in the West. I just hope they call it something else, and make an updated Himalayan that retains the features that make the current one so usable.
Complete waste of time ALL these enhancements, just accept it for what it is and save your cash towards a second bike to do the fast stuff if that's your thing!
I like to make progress. Sometimes I can't do that on the mighty Himalayan. A bit more 50mph - 65mph squirt would make me a bit happier when running late, which as you know I often am!
Just completed installing mine and now have 70 miles on it so still taking it easy for a few more hundred miles... But I have to say, I am so glad I did it. It really makes a noticeable improvement.
This is all I will be doing to the bike. No sense on going for big bore kit... this is not a bike to be searching for major performance improvements. There are other bikes for that. But this was just the additional push it needed for the bike to feel just right.
Not sure you every got around to this, Nathan, I just did. Recommend it! Feels like a different bike! Spent four hours on the Himi today after having been careful with it since the install. The install, btw, wasn't easy. I'm a complete amateur so it felt daunting from the start, but I can't imagine there's more space to work with even if you're experienced... It's narrow and tight and complicated, but works! Anyway - I could really open the bike up in third, fourth and fifth gear today. It's got much more to give with the cam installed. Smooth and strong. Very cool.
Thanks for the information on the relay problem hopefully save someone an expensive visit to the garage, look forward to seeing you fitting the cam and the end result 👍
TEC seem to be doing a great job, their videos are step by step, easy to follow. The one showing how to swap cams is excellent.
Yes it does seem a profit outfit, doing proper engineering work. More faith in this than the Powertronic
@@nathanthepostman Proficient, proper or ?
Be careful he shows you to fit the cam gear tab washer incorrectly. It must cover the locating pin to hold it in place.
I don't like using performance enhancers either, but my wife loves it when I do.
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they work well on big singles
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Now that was interesting - and if you carry a couple of relays - a simple fix. I’ll be very interested in the cam swap video when you’re ready, and the performance measuring one. Don’t forget to measure the ‘stock’ machine first! Les
I like the dash on this bike. That's all, though.
Very interesting video. I hope your cold gets better soon, Nathan.
Great video, I agree with you about that color Himmie looking good dirty haha. When I bought mine here in California 2 months ago, the only choice left were that and a Rock Red. I took the red, but yours kinda makes me regret that. Looking forward to more videos!
I had one fitted from the first batch. Does make a noticeable improvement. Just seems to make the bike 'right' I think the untouched engine is hampered by the emissions driven design. I can understand some people's reaction for fiddling for better this or that but that's the joy of biking for some and as Nathan says 200 quid for 20% improvement - it's tempting ( well was for me). My bike feels better with ever tweak ( and mile I do) Saturday I was out with my instructor as I'm doing the IAM and he was very impressed with both the looks and the performance. A bike we all know is not to be underestimated.
I used the stock MT60 extensively while off roading in the desert in New Mexico, west of El Paso, Texas. Yes, not the best tire in the world, but as you said, I learned to work with it and respect its limits. This tire has decent traction while going straight, but turning on sand was very hard with it, I often fell because my front tire would wash off. I eventually managed to change my body position to give the front tire a slight better edge, and learned to ride the Himalayan in the sand. The bike itself did great, it was the tire that was disappointing me.
I can vouch for Mike's Himalayan. I was on the Crieff Cloverleaf tour on my KTM 1090 and was very surprised how well it went around those twisty mountain roads, mind you ,he could ride well .
It was only on long inclines I could zip past him
Eagerly awaiting your impressions of the TEC cam. Any updates on when you might have a verdict video ready to publish? I've been waiting on this cam since they first revealed it in the works... when? Way back last year, was it? Anyway, was interested, but wanted some real world reports on its true efficacy before buying. So, really looking forward to your unbiased thoughts...
I agree with your comments about tires. I recently came from an adventure bike rally. It seemed that everybody had proper dirt tires. I had the original tires. We were on single track, mud, creek crossing, dirt roads and gravel. My bike did very well but I did have a difficult time keeping up on the faster gravel sections. This wasn’t because I didn’t have enough power, it was because I didn’t have the same grip in the corners.
Hi Gerald. Take your time and check my channel, especially that last video is for you: Life story: Franc Pušnik and his motorcycles. It is a must. :)
Really interesting and pretty in depth video, cheers. I was wondering if you'd ever lowered a Himalayan and if so, how tricky the job is?
In the US, since our models are effectively a year behind, we definitely had Euro 4 equivalent bikes shipped out with bad relays. There are riders in India who claim that relays have been a consistent problem, but it definitely seems like more issues have been reported since the pandemic production era.
My experience with the bad relay in my bike was that the fuel pump would prime in neutral, but not in gear. Perhaps since they upgraded the relay system in the Euro 5 models the symptoms of the problem are a bit different.
Hi Nathan, when will you have this installed ? would love to get more feedback from you on the change !
Keep up the good work
I also have TEC camshaft to install on my Himalayan, I hope to get just a bit extra passing and hillclimbing power out of it.
hi and thank's for your video, the relay problem has been around on the interceptor as well since they brought the first ones in to the country but alot of the problems have been put down to all that white grease they smear on the connections in order to stop corrosion during storage and transportation by salt in sea air, it all should be cleaned off and it's not only the fuel pump, any of the connecting blocks that have white grease in them are susspect, i had a problem with the speedo on my interceptor acting like a windscreen wiper and it took me a while to find it but it was the multiplug in the headlamp covered in white grease that caused it, cleaned it off and it's fine now, i can understand why they do it, but if the grease is just grease and not specially designed for the purpose it will cause a resistance build up in the circuit and stop things working as electronic stuff works on a low voltage.
Would love an update, if possible? Many thanks. 👍
When are you going to post the results of this cam upgrade? Also what about the sprocket? That seems like a big part of the process.
“An absolute goose would be able to change this out” 😂
Hi, I find it interesting what you say about the powertronic set up and that you have chosen the camshaft, on my bike it has a noticeable lean mixture at 4000 RPM and if you hold the throttle in that position say in third or fourth you do feel it is holding back, I do have a booster plug fitted but I feel it has not done anything for this issue, so would you think the camshaft will correct this issue? Cheers Phil
Thank's for an interesting vid.Nathan particularly, for me, the relay info. As for the cam well, i must admit i'm intrigued. I have had my bike 3 years and have got on with the power so far under many conditions of road, conditions and load and still love the thing :) so, unless you or someone else presented an unequivocal thumbs up for it, the jury is still out for me; as you said £200 for the cam plus other consumables (fitting it isn't an issue for me by the way as i'm well capable of doing the job so no other cost would be involved) is a lot of petrol or some tasty camping gear or, whatever. another point i bear in mind is, i have a very sweet running bike with no issues such as stalling and it's perfectly standard; it would be a shame if fitting the cam had any unintended negative effects. Cheers.
Take your time Tony and check my channel, especially that last video is for you: Life story: Franc Pušnik and his motorcycles. It is a must. :)
If the new government anti tampering regulations get passed all this type of modification (they call it tampering) will be banned. To object there is a long government form to fill in.
They will do well if on an mot they have to disassembled the bike, shit UK government, can't do this, can't do that.
Be a good Police man to find that!
But you are right. Get on the petition.
1%er mind set helps with that.
Had a relay go on my GT535 looks the same as that.
That's a bike that needs some tuning to !
Either sleeves up or sleeves down, not one of each ! Really messed with my feng shui or chi or ocd or whatever ! 😄
Super brother
Thanks, this is interesting.
Hi Nathan
Have you had a chance to fit ur TEC camshaft yet?
Dam, thought you was going to fit it in this video .Guess I shall have to stick around and wait for the next one ( keep us in suspense ) 😁
Steady on. It'll take me months to pluck up the courage to crack open the head!
TECs video shows how to do it. ua-cam.com/video/GHoqvbAnvEo/v-deo.html
From what I watched it's the tappet cover, just cam cover and timing mark access, Head remains in place.
Regarding tyres standard one do amazing its the motor is where the grip is i crossed a mossy rushes bog got bellied got off and because didnt have agressive knobbies walked bkie out without digging down...cracking vid
Totally agree about it being the motor that generates the traction. The front wanders a bit but I think the weight of the bike (low down) that gives it some extra stability. It's a tractor.
Any update on the camshaft upgrade?
Have a rock red, put in mods that i want to do, lith battery, irrid plug, changed headlight, tyres, heidenau k60's great for resilience here in the outback of Australia, have the tec cam to put in, overall its what makes your bike your own.
hi5, love my Rock Red. I call mine a "a backpack with wheels". Done iridium plug, Ostram Nightbreaker headlamp, lithium battery, and added 30w LED floodlamps. Still rocking CEAT tires, they aren't too shabby so far
Hey Nathan, have you fitted the cam yet?
The claims are good on the TEC cam, you'd ridden a bike with it fitted, it's really the best option, has always been that in the quest for more power is a high lift cam, noise never makes you good faster, just sounds like it does... I know.. It's the volume of air in and gas out, so filter and exhaust helps. But is it by Design that the bike only goes so fast.. or down to emissions.. after all as a long stoke their going as large as big bore can go and limits are head an single In/Ex values.. the down fall is the pig in the room - Power/Weight, and weight is the issue.. Excel Rims laced in, Ali swing arm and frame parts... then it's making it something it's not and spending money.. I love mine, a BS4 for what it is and it does it well, as on the box, had it a box.. ;
Hi. Any news on fitting the new cam? Thanks
I like the idea of the session going through typical bush fixes and servicing. Not long had my himmi so still getting to know it in detail. Is this something that's arranged by request?
Hi Dan. Yep, just drop me a message through the website (www.dorothysspeedshop.com) and we can arrange a one on one to suit your availability.
I would also be interested in that as well.
@@Trevgsxrkdx If you want to drop me a message Gixer I'll send you some details and dates
Looking forward to your opinions once the cam is fitted. It seems many owners do the cam swap then change the exhaust system, add a booster plug, complete some airbox modifications, and mess around altering the TPS settings. More time and expense for something that just might make the bike feel a bit different, but not really any better?
I'm sure I'm not the only one that bought their Himalayan knowing the power "limitation", but mine is just perfect as it is on the tracks around where I live, and on longer trips using well surfaced roads. Would a 20% power hike make the bike better for what I use it for? Maybe, or maybe not
I won't go any further than the cam. This is a bit of an experiment to see if the cam on its own does give noticeable gain on its own without faffing around with all the other stuff. But as you say, you definitely don't need to play around with the performance at all if you're happy how it is.
It's much more about feel than power. The bike feels much better with the TEC cam, it's far more about seat of pants impressions than dyno charts and 1/4 mile times.
@@nathanthepostman Does the new cam effect reliability ?
Nathan the tread on front tyres are Directional & seems to be put on incorrect direction hence washout
Very interested to see some 0-60 times, some people on the ADVRider forums are saying there is very little change, and some are saying there is a noticeable improvement,
Indeed, I think the seat of the pants 'feel' doesn't always translate into measurable gains. The only real way to know is to have a stock bike and a modded bike side by side and see the difference directly back to back.
Did you install it? And make a video about it...
Flying machine !!!!!
Hope your going to upgrade the brakes Nathan
Will fitting this affect the warranty
Totally agree regarding the tyres
Buy a bike
Ride it
Then slowly improve what works for you
It's a good question with regards warranty. I suspect it probably could void the warranty as you're introducing an external part. Whether it would void a claim against a fault with the brakes etc though I'm not sure. Maybe it would only apply to an engine fault/fix. I'm fitting this one to the older white Himalayan, which I think is about out of warranty anyway. Then of course there's the question of telling your insurance company and whether that has an impact.
Fingers x. Think Himi 650 not till 2024..according to one source.
Might need you to work on my 125 unless I can lose two stone...
Why the 2 relays for the pump? Well, glad it got sorted anyway. Look forward to seeing this progress. I saw 3 vids yesterday on the 650 ADV , RE are supposed to launch in 2024, but it will be a heavy old beast. Im sure that 410cc motor could easily punch out 35hp without breaking. Sounds like a good event to get some modded bikes together.
That 650 rumour is pure bull. We're going to get something much better than a lazy engine upsize.
@@nathanthepostman Maybe, i know the rumours have been out there. Bike wala in India said he had an inside source at RE that confirmed it, maybe just clickbait. I hope your right regarding a hot engine upgrade, it would expand the market in the West, but "we" are not their biggest market......so who knows?
The 650 will be more of a (touring bike) soft roader
There's a few Euro4's knocking about at a small discount against the E5 - Having ridden both; do you reckon there is one you prefer? There's an E4 on offer at 4200 with panniers included +OTR charges that is v.tempting.
Chris, as I own a BS4 I'd say go for it.. if a color like you. I base it on the new models have now been tuned to E5 emissions, little too notice in performance, you've ridden both. Unless you want the Trip, Switchable ABS and Hazard lights for shopping.. you'd not good wrong.. have 71 plate.. it's old stock to them.. Hand guards cost them nothing.. say it's on your wish list.. I'd not consider the RE crash bar it's unneeded weight.. if your wish GIVI sounds from others the way to go.. that's by 2p.. Cheers and many happy years safe riding.
I would say the best Himalayan is probably the last of the Euro 4 bikes. The niggles had largely been ironed out and the Euro 5 just looks to have added new niggles and no real improvements. Euro 4 bike would be the way I would go.
@@nathanthepostman Thanks, man; that was the way I was leaning too.
what does 20% increase do for mph ?
Same relay failed on my 2014 500 bullet. Intermittent so never left me stranded. Some say to clean off white grease from factory and re do it.
I would switch out to a better quality relay
@@Will-sc3hw I did. Nippon denso
Don't u guys have cheap ralco tyres ?? We buy those for off road ... Its very cheap ..but thr rubber compound is rough ...
Hey Nathan would you consider removing the cat?
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Keep looking at himalayan, however it really needs to cruise at 70 for sustained periods. Increase in power may better support changing sprockets etc
I've come down from John o'Groats to Devon in a day a few times, 600 miles or so, mainly on the motorway, and it'll sit at around 70mph throughout. Maybe 65mph at times on the steep hills or headwinds, but it will do a decent speed once run in.
I took mine on a 5000 km trip from SE Spain, to the Pyranees, the Picos, down through Portugal and back across Spain. Didn't do many motorways and when I did, 120kph cruising was fine.
Normally more fuel = more power
Opening up the airbox may cause an already lean burn engine to become dangerously lean at high rpm so be careful.
Only the valve cover has to come off
Not badly priced for a cam upgrade. Which is in keeping with the bike's very reasonable purchase price. I have had cams metal sprayed and reground in the past and the cost is approaching that. I saw the "new cam =5HP" initially and laughed. But the price is right so why not. Haven't you fitted it yet!!! :-)
Steady on. It's going to take me all winter to pluck up the courage!
Hi Dogshome. Take your time and check my channel, especially that last video is for you: Life story: Franc Pušnik and his motorcycles. It is a must. :)
The reason its not a stock part is because it would hurt emissions especially since this a big single cylinder engine with no liquid cooling. Euro 5 is a load of shit. Would love to get the new Klr650 here in the UK but they wont pass euro 5 as it stands.
Why didn't RE do it? Probably to ensure the bike works with low grade petrol
Low grade petrol is accommodated by a low compression ratio - which is 9.5 to 1
for the Himalayan. The cam more directly affects emissions. It would be interesting
to see if an increase in the odor of the exhaust reveals those greater emissions.
@@daveinwla6360 it's all a combination though . Going back in time the MGA twin cam was notorious for needing 5 star petrol and forever pinking.
More than a few riders like me are waiting for Himalayan with 650 engine.
2024. It's been confirmed
“Why didn’t Royal Enfield do it ?” I’d bet it’s euro 5 compliance…
Probably not . My 2016 GT535 has a very mild cam. Engine will easily take 10 hp
more.
Doubled to 10?!!!
Is it recommended to at least modify the intake in conjunction with the cam so the engine breathes easier? Great vids btw Nathan 👍
It's a good question and I guess it would help. I was just going to try it as it comes - just the cam - to see the difference in makes.
@@nathanthepostman Ah, a true scientist! 👍
I think with the upgraded cam the intake will be open longer, rather than having to mod filter/air-box etc, though that could be the next step.
TEC Cam best bhp per buck
I think someone dynod it afterwards at only 2bhp gain.
15% more power is closer to the truth.
New Cam = plus 5 bhp
Weight of spare relay under seat minus 5bhp :😀
“Can you imagine a Himalayan with 29 HP 😂” 650 is happening get to the gym Nathan her will take some hanging onto .
I saw the dirty old spam doing the rounds again '650 Himalayan imminent.' I'd bet my new shiny cam that it's not happening and we get something far more up our dirt road chasing street. 650 twin lump would ruin it.
..........or you could sell the Enfield and buy a second hand, V-Strom 650. More reliable, 70hp, and a generally more capable machine.
I rode with a chap along a 25 mile off road route through Death Valley in the heat of summer. I was on the Himalayan. He was on the Vstrom. With the heat and a bit of nerves he really struggled and it was getting a bit touch and go. I suggested we swapped bikes. He rode with confidence the rest of the way and we got out in one piece. I struggled on the Vstrom, the reason being that it's a road bike, with a snatchy throttle, firm road suspension and poor standing geometry. Also the engine doesn't suit trail work. They're chalk and cheese bikes to me, so a Vstrom would limit what I could do, whereas a touch more power on the Himalayan would take the heat out of the long distance riding give me a bit more overtaking squirt. But totally agree, if you were only riding on the road, then yes, a Vstrom 650 might be a better option.
@@nathanthepostman Sort of agree with you. I was speaking from an English perspective where off roading is (no matter what they say) rare - there just isn't the open wilderness you find in the USA. That said, if I were doing a lot of off roading then I would probably go for a Honda CRF250.
@@stevetaylor8698 Yeah for sure a 650 'Himalayan' would be massively popular I think, certainly in the West. I just hope they call it something else, and make an updated Himalayan that retains the features that make the current one so usable.
First!
9 months and no update. Thanks for the cliffhanger. 👎
you're welcome
Complete waste of time ALL these enhancements, just accept it for what it is and save your cash towards a second bike to do the fast stuff if that's your thing!
I like to make progress. Sometimes I can't do that on the mighty Himalayan. A bit more 50mph - 65mph squirt would make me a bit happier when running late, which as you know I often am!