Behind every "perfect" performance, there are at least 2 people running around behind the scenes pressing lots of buttons, shouting out a lot of commands. This is real good, this guy is good.
See I always get confused if this is a performance concert or a church community leading the rest of the body in worship. Too much smoke and too many mirrors for me. Glad people enjoy this and hope this encourages them to grow in Christ, not just try to get front row.
Being a bass player my entire life and playing praise and worship music I have learned that doing what this guy is doing is a gift and is like having to learn a complex instrument which the entire team relies on!!! Awesome back scene of what goes on to run these types of services!!! Thanks!
Exactly what is Ableton playing during the song? Certain pre-recorded instrument or vocal tracks that are mixed in with the live musicians? And if so, who hears it? Online viewers, musicians, congregation, everyone? thx
Anyone who is running multiple outputs for tracks on ableton, how did he assign a low pass filter to fade in all outputs at the same time? I’ve been cracking my head over it and haven’t been able to figure it out. Any help would be appreciated!
Just curious. The mixing and sound are really good, but, do you guys still able to worship/or how do you worship intimately during worship moment while doing this busy mixing? 🤔.
To be honest I believe at that level people sometimes get too focused on the production side, that's why they need a day off to just be on the other side and go deep on worship the only ONE!!! And that's ok! As musicians we're doing our part, facilitating people to worship Him. Hope that makes sense for you.
This is the worship. We dnt need music and speaking out words to worship our God. That's why we do it our best. But yes some days you just need time from it to enjoy the service.
So our church currently has an SSL l200 board. Having a hard time getting audio from ableton to our board. From some videos it looks like elevation uses a SSL board. Any suggestions?
They're what's called the number system or Nashville number system. Developed to make communication between band members easier and keep everyone on the same page without confusion. They refer to the chords they are playing. If we are in the key of C for example, 1 would be C, the, 2 would be Dminor, 3 is Eminor and so on through to 7. There are a couple of reasons this is used over just chords. One is to avoid the fact that chord letters sound similar (C, D, E, G and B all rhyme). And two is to cater for transposed instruments such as a guitar using a capo. If the song is in A and he is playing G shapes with a 2nd fret capo, all the numbers still translate correctly and he stays in key. That's a rough explanation tho, and I may not have explained it super amazingly 😂 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashville_Number_System
@@jeremygray9597 I understand the chords called but not sure I understand why he says “and” occasionally after a chord. I thought it might be rhythm but the chords all hit on 1 or 3. Then thought it might imply an additional chord coming up but he also says it if a chord takes the entire measure. Any clue on why he says it?
@@AndrewEldridge Yeah I’ve used “and” as an MD (the guy calling the chords) as well. From what he’s saying I believe it’s just to indicate that the chord he’s just called comes in on the next beat. Like if he calls a “5” followed by an “and” the musicians play the 5 chord on the beat right after the “and”. It’s sort of like a shortened version of “and now”. It could be replaced by “now” or “next”, but that could be potentially confusing so “and” is the best word to use to indicate when a chord is to change, especially on progressions with more clumped together chord changes. It’s probably a subconscious thing the MD is doing tbh 😂
I've been playing bass at church for over 20 years and had no idea what the numbers were in reference to or what an MD cue was. I also had to read the comments for context of MD. Any church I've ever played with, the music director was on stage leading the congregation. I've played with click tracks that count into the verse, chorus, bridge, etc., and found those hard enough to hear through the music. I can't imagine trying to follow someone's vocal cues for each chord change.
@@wwoo4809 Correct. Elevation uses their recorded tracks to backfill their praise and worship sets. They have one main band which includes multiple instruments that does not travel with them nor do they have them at their satellite campuses BUT they do all of the album recordings. This is how they keep standardization wherever they have service. The "Ableton Engineer" is essentially performing the role of the instruments that are not present.
@@jewagr007 we run clicks/tracks from Ableton at every campus to cover instruments that aren’t there or things that enhance a song like drum loops/FX/Synth bass, etc. Every campus has its own band (guitars, bass, keys, drums) and worship leader/vocalists. JMix is the Ableton Engineer from our Ballantyne campus and when all campus sync up to Ballantyne, it’s call it ^Link (uplink), and the clicks/tracks/worship leader/MD is sent to every campus for us to play the last song together leading to the sermon.
Is he controlling the monitor mix? And/or is he also controlling the playback? (which is what a lot of ppl use ableton for) wish I could ask him more questions
Definitely a cool very talented engineer but it’s also kind of sad that we have moved from real musicians to just putting everything in the can. Seems like all churches sound the same these days because everyone is using the same tracks lol. Won’t name names but was in a worship conference last year and watched the praise team struggle through half of a song with nothing but drums and vocals because the laptop went down. Was a very big church too. Guess no one learn to play their instruments. 😂
With elevation you still have guys playing all their instruments live the ableton rig is just for stuff that is either near impossible to pull off live or is just impractical like the strings you hear in the video. In my church we use the tracks to have instruments that we don’t have live. Like I’m the only electric guitarist so I play one part and the tracks have the other part. And we only have one keyboard so the tracks have the pad that we literally can’t play live
If they don't use backing track they need to hire so many musicians just to sound as full like the mix. Imagine a hundred people will go on tour. Imagine how financial crippling it is, take it for an example Paul Wilbur and Ron Kenoly's rhythm section. I mean it is indeed an amazing atmosphere to see that many people all playing, but in this concise and efficiency requiring event as such, the best thing to do is have your backing track and the main rhythm section will upfront perfoming on stage. Let's say we need: 30 people for Orchestra/String 50 more or less on choir 4 Electric Guitarist or more 4 Keyboard Player 1 Organ/Main keys/MD 2 Drums (depends on the song but in Here Again's Live Extended Version Both Vincent Baynard and Luke Anderson Playing together) 2 Percussionist probably 1 Acoustic 1 Electric percussionist 1 Bass 8 Back up Vocals 4 Worship Leaders Acoustic Guitar players (For sure worship leaders are playing acoustic guitars too) = 106 People Needed just for the band itself?
@@johnpeterberenguel1273 I mean this is a very far fetched example but I get what your saying it’s just not practical unless you’re a mega church to pull something like that off
@@cadyngrable1192 I'm totally with you! I'm referring to what tony ford said, that if we play all of the instruments in the backing track it will be that big of a band.
Behind every "perfect" performance, there are at least 2 people running around behind the scenes pressing lots of buttons, shouting out a lot of commands. This is real good, this guy is good.
See I always get confused if this is a performance concert or a church community leading the rest of the body in worship. Too much smoke and too many mirrors for me. Glad people enjoy this and hope this encourages them to grow in Christ, not just try to get front row.
Being a bass player my entire life and playing praise and worship music I have learned that doing what this guy is doing is a gift and is like having to learn a complex instrument which the entire team relies on!!! Awesome back scene of what goes on to run these types of services!!! Thanks!
iThe talent this guy has is extrardinary. running so many things at one time so simply.
That's the spirit bro. Awesome, could feel his joy doing what he's doing.
This is phenomenal! Thanks so much for sharing! Bless us with another one where he narrates and tells us what he has going on.
Wowww chills, there’s so much going on 🔥🔥
the redundant system + a jamming computer is craaaaazy! haha God Bless!
Even on this md side. Those atmosphere I can’t stand 😭 so beautiful how’s you guys doing it 🔥
What can’t you stand?
@@derykstearns I think they mean their knees are weak lol
so wonderful
Thanks for this content!!! Love it keep it up! 🙌🏽🙌🏽❤️
Thanks for share! Amazing
Keep this content coming. Love it!
Thanks for sharing!!
Love seeing this. Am i correct in seeing transitions sounds in session view and all other remaining tracks in Arrangement view?
Favourite part ... the "Molson Canadian" logo reflection on the screen of the far left laptop ... hahaha. Deep down you guys really love Canada!
There's also a Toronto Marlies banner at the back.. Canada is awesome!(.side note..... I'm from Canada)
With this much passion and energy, dude should be onstage, and not off.
AWEEEEESOME!
This is awesome
Exactly what is Ableton playing during the song? Certain pre-recorded instrument or vocal tracks that are mixed in with the live musicians? And if so, who hears it? Online viewers, musicians, congregation, everyone? thx
Does anyone know why they run 3 macs and what each of them are doing?
What does the “1 And ..” mean? “4 and..”? I know the numbers means chords
Yeah, wondering the same, I guess the chord numbers so the key is no longer important.
The “And” is just for timing
So those down moments are still part of the track, they just bring the strings in? Or is Jonathan triggering parts of the song as they get to it?
Anyone who is running multiple outputs for tracks on ableton, how did he assign a low pass filter to fade in all outputs at the same time? I’ve been cracking my head over it and haven’t been able to figure it out. Any help would be appreciated!
He probably setup a macro with a filter on each track controlled from one knob.
id love to see a rig round down of this
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In Spanish broooo... Translate for learn. 😂❤🎉 From Panamá 🇵🇦
amazinnnggg
Just curious. The mixing and sound are really good, but, do you guys still able to worship/or how do you worship intimately during worship moment while doing this busy mixing? 🤔.
To be honest I believe at that level people sometimes get too focused on the production side, that's why they need a day off to just be on the other side and go deep on worship the only ONE!!! And that's ok! As musicians we're doing our part, facilitating people to worship Him. Hope that makes sense for you.
This is the worship. We dnt need music and speaking out words to worship our God. That's why we do it our best. But yes some days you just need time from it to enjoy the service.
You can see how hes actally flowing in worship yeah
@@BradK02 You sir have it right. This is his worship AND THATS OK. Worship doesn’t look 1 way. He’s enjoying himself clearly.
So our church currently has an SSL l200 board. Having a hard time getting audio from ableton to our board. From some videos it looks like elevation uses a SSL board. Any suggestions?
I dont ever recall seeing an SSL, They were using Midas Pro for along time then lately switched to Digico
What are all the numbers being called out?
They're what's called the number system or Nashville number system. Developed to make communication between band members easier and keep everyone on the same page without confusion. They refer to the chords they are playing. If we are in the key of C for example, 1 would be C, the, 2 would be Dminor, 3 is Eminor and so on through to 7. There are a couple of reasons this is used over just chords. One is to avoid the fact that chord letters sound similar (C, D, E, G and B all rhyme). And two is to cater for transposed instruments such as a guitar using a capo. If the song is in A and he is playing G shapes with a 2nd fret capo, all the numbers still translate correctly and he stays in key.
That's a rough explanation tho, and I may not have explained it super amazingly 😂
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashville_Number_System
@@jeremygray9597 you nailed it right on.... 😇🙏👏
@@jeremygray9597 I understand the chords called but not sure I understand why he says “and” occasionally after a chord. I thought it might be rhythm but the chords all hit on 1 or 3. Then thought it might imply an additional chord coming up but he also says it if a chord takes the entire measure. Any clue on why he says it?
@@AndrewEldridge Yeah I’ve used “and” as an MD (the guy calling the chords) as well. From what he’s saying I believe it’s just to indicate that the chord he’s just called comes in on the next beat.
Like if he calls a “5” followed by an “and” the musicians play the 5 chord on the beat right after the “and”.
It’s sort of like a shortened version of “and now”.
It could be replaced by “now” or “next”, but that could be potentially confusing so “and” is the best word to use to indicate when a chord is to change, especially on progressions with more clumped together chord changes.
It’s probably a subconscious thing the MD is doing tbh 😂
I've been playing bass at church for over 20 years and had no idea what the numbers were in reference to or what an MD cue was.
I also had to read the comments for context of MD. Any church I've ever played with, the music director was on stage leading the congregation.
I've played with click tracks that count into the verse, chorus, bridge, etc., and found those hard enough to hear through the music. I can't imagine trying to follow someone's vocal cues for each chord change.
Is he mixing their backing tracks or is this the FOH mix?
Seems like he's the Ableton Engineer running their background tracks from the side stage, much how a Monitor Engineer would.
@@wwoo4809 Correct. Elevation uses their recorded tracks to backfill their praise and worship sets. They have one main band which includes multiple instruments that does not travel with them nor do they have them at their satellite campuses BUT they do all of the album recordings. This is how they keep standardization wherever they have service. The "Ableton Engineer" is essentially performing the role of the instruments that are not present.
@@jewagr007 we run clicks/tracks from Ableton at every campus to cover instruments that aren’t there or things that enhance a song like drum loops/FX/Synth bass, etc. Every campus has its own band (guitars, bass, keys, drums) and worship leader/vocalists. JMix is the Ableton Engineer from our Ballantyne campus and when all campus sync up to Ballantyne, it’s call it ^Link (uplink), and the clicks/tracks/worship leader/MD is sent to every campus for us to play the last song together leading to the sermon.
@@jewagr007 woooooow i never knew that!
@@JordanMammano23 Yes!!! Thanks for articulating the breakdown.
I have no idea what’s going on.
hahahaha
Glad I’m not the only one
Is he controlling the monitor mix? And/or is he also controlling the playback? (which is what a lot of ppl use ableton for) wish I could ask him more questions
controlling playback
What is the purpose of each macs?
center mac to me looks like controlling the stems, outer macs are the live, 1 is live the other is running redundant, via iconnectivity
Is he only controlling in ears?
No, if that was the case he could just sit back. He’s using ableton tracks as a substitute for the instruments/sounds missing in the band.
@@ArthurPrince03 Lol what the fuck do you mean he could sit back. You don't know anything about mixing monitors, do you lol
Definitely a cool very talented engineer but it’s also kind of sad that we have moved from real musicians to just putting everything in the can. Seems like all churches sound the same these days because everyone is using the same tracks lol. Won’t name names but was in a worship conference last year and watched the praise team struggle through half of a song with nothing but drums and vocals because the laptop went down. Was a very big church too. Guess no one learn to play their instruments. 😂
With elevation you still have guys playing all their instruments live the ableton rig is just for stuff that is either near impossible to pull off live or is just impractical like the strings you hear in the video. In my church we use the tracks to have instruments that we don’t have live. Like I’m the only electric guitarist so I play one part and the tracks have the other part. And we only have one keyboard so the tracks have the pad that we literally can’t play live
If they don't use backing track they need to hire so many musicians just to sound as full like the mix. Imagine a hundred people will go on tour. Imagine how financial crippling it is, take it for an example Paul Wilbur and Ron Kenoly's rhythm section. I mean it is indeed an amazing atmosphere to see that many people all playing, but in this concise and efficiency requiring event as such, the best thing to do is have your backing track and the main rhythm section will upfront perfoming on stage.
Let's say we need:
30 people for Orchestra/String
50 more or less on choir
4 Electric Guitarist or more
4 Keyboard Player
1 Organ/Main keys/MD
2 Drums (depends on the song but in Here Again's Live Extended Version Both Vincent Baynard and Luke Anderson Playing together)
2 Percussionist probably 1 Acoustic 1 Electric percussionist
1 Bass
8 Back up Vocals
4 Worship Leaders
Acoustic Guitar players (For sure worship leaders are playing acoustic guitars too)
= 106 People Needed just for the band itself?
@@johnpeterberenguel1273 I mean this is a very far fetched example but I get what your saying it’s just not practical unless you’re a mega church to pull something like that off
@@cadyngrable1192 I'm totally with you! I'm referring to what tony ford said, that if we play all of the instruments in the backing track it will be that big of a band.
100% there’s a stain on homie’s shirt😂😂😂😂
Good Video, MD Is talking way too much.
I'll be annoyed someone talking lol
So this is what I could buy if I didn't have to pay taxes.
Tell me what to play? Nah.
wow. that's so - not - spontaneous...