This Changed The Landscape Of Compact Cameras
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- Sony was the first to implement the 1 inch image sensor in a compact camera and that took the world by storm. It was so successful that even Canon and Panasonic came up with their own variants. I found the original RX100 in the used marketplace and bought it out of curiosity. I took it out for some shutter therapy action, and I shared my thoughts about the Sony RX100 that changed the landscape of compact cameras.
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0:00 Intro
0:27 About RX100
1:33 Image Samples Reel 1
2:05 What I Like?
3:36 Image Samples Reel 2
4:07 What I Dislike?
6:57 Image Samples Reel 3
7:28 The Best Compact?
9:24 Newer RX100?
10:08 Conclusion/END
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camera never gets old. as long it can take good pictures and tell a story.
My mum bought a mark i, she knows nothing on cameras but told the camera store man 'i am going to italy for vacation, and I want to take good photos indoors, like cathedrals." And the man told her in the extra compact space there was only one option she should look at. (It was a good choice! I think he was right.)
Yeah the RX100 is just so small, perfect for travel!
Your photography is always great, just proves it's not the camera but the person behind it. I just got out of hospital (back surgery) and can't wait to get some shutter therapy.
Oh wow, glad you are OK, and yes, shutter therapy awaits!
13 days since a heart attack #2 at 73 starting to do the same
I had RX100 (1), RX100 III and RX100 VI. Loved all of them. Tested the RX 100VA and I think that is one of the most powerful compact cameras ever made.
Man, you must loved RXs. A hi from your sibling Zv 👋🏻
I got the RX100 vii almost 2 months ago. Love it for video as a b-cam when I need more range or want to travel super light and for stills at 200mm in the day time. I was disappointed when trying to use it at night in low light conditions but I’m still learning it. I’m going to keep trying it out against my G7x mark ii
rx100m7 is always with me when I leave the house. 3D printed a protective carrying box. I photograph her more than my favorite em1m3. I like both and each have their own strengths. I bought an L-board for both of them and it turned out to be a comfortable handle)))
i have rx100 m5. i love the bokeh and the video /nd filter. the only problem is that i feel like im losing out on the optical 200mm. how is the bokeh on the m7?
@@mrtimtom2631 tto get bokeh you need to use the same photo-optical principles - focal lengths are better from 100 to 200, the subject is closer to you and further from the background)) for me, bokeh is not the main goal, sometimes I increased the aperture to f8 so that everything was in sharpness. The bokeh itself is soft and visually pleasing. I like everything about 100m7. as SONY stated, this is the A9 in miniature))) all the technologies have been added. but there is no ND filter, so you have to stick an adapter with a thread on the lens. Available on magnets - more convenient
What about image stabilization? Isn’t this a major issue? Or maybe you’re using a tripod or another device?
My favorite RX100 is the Mark II. Close focusing at the wide end (28mm), zooms to 100mm or so. It could get revamped and get the pop up viewfinder. I also have the RX100III, which is fine, but I never purchased the other RX100 cameras. My favorite RX camera is the RX10IV. Phenomenal do it all camera, perfect for travel.
Bought a mark ii as well. The lens range was something I was interested in cause in mark III Sony revised the lens range.
You right about handling! Very easy to drop !
I agree your photography is always great! I bought an RX 100 Va in 2021 to re-enter photography. I liked it, I felt it was extremely capable coming from two decades of point-and-shoots as I was. I left it in a rental car in California, and that’s when I bought the OM-1. I had already decided I was going to upgrade to micro four-thirds anyway.
Oh dear, whoever that found your camera in the rental car must have been the luckiest person on the planet! Of course, the OM-1 is a huge jump and you will get more out of it.
I bought the Sony finger-grip for it too, and it made all the difference.
Hi Robin, I agree this version of the RX100, which I have, has the performance you said. I bought it for street photography and it can be a challenge. RX100 and Hasselblads Stellar appears to be the same camera, interesting.
Yeah, Hasselblad, before acquired by DJI, used to just rebrand/rebadge Sony cameras and they sold them double the price!
Definitely a great range of compact cameras.
Excellent review. It’s great to see someone not marveling at this camera despite a litany of major negatives that can render it useless
The RX100 VII was released in 2019, and it's pretty sure that it won't get a successor.
For my needs, the RX100 Va was the peak of the series. Great lens, fast autofocus, useful EVF, powerful processor ... Ergonomics still aren't great, but the little rubber handgrip makes the camera usable for hours. I intended to use it only for family shots, but it's quite capable for street photography as well.
Another nice review Robin. Never really considered Sony. Olympus M4/3 has always been my go too for a camera. But you have got me thinking.
Hi Robyn - I totally agree with your assessment - I own an RX100 VII and I like it but don't love it for similar reasons you mentioned. This view is not too popular in the DPReview forums!
Totally agree
As I pointed out in your facebook feed about small cameras, I have this model from new and treat it as a backup and also continuous JPEG monochrome camera set at best quality. I don’t suffer like you with this camera as I have a small wrist strap and carry it in my shirt pocket It is what it is, a 12 year old camera but still highly useful nevertheless despite me having full frame Q2 and A7r2 which gets more use than the latter. Another interesting video, thanks for sharing.
There is a place for smaller cameras, they fit in pockets!
my rx100m5 is amazing. i always take it out since its so small
I have owned the Sony RX100 Mark III for a couple of months, it took a while to get used to it, I bought a glue sticking grip Sony branded that helped with hand holding it, I got used to leaving it on and into sleep more with the EVF and lens extended at the cost of the battery, I was always blown away but the IQ of the RAW files from this tiny camera. But the reason I didn't keep it was the shutter lag, it was not instant like the mirrorless Sony, Olympus and Panasonic cameras and in street photography I would miss the perfect moment because there was a delay between fully pressing the shutter and the image being taken. I wish I could have liked it more.
I thought the shutter lag on the RX100 original was not too bad. I wonder what happened to the Mark III, sounds like a step backwards!
Happy Monday everyone.
Wassup Rob
I bought my Mrs the Mk1 RX100 for her Christmas one year.. We had always loved the Sony Cybershot range and the RX series looked to be the new-gen new-pro version of those cameras.
The low light performance was staggering at the time (and still is for a compact) and it was the first camera I ever successfully managed to use to capture the northern lights with!.. we still have it and now a Mk3... and although I have an Olympus m3/4 camera I still love these compacts as grab and go's.
One summer I did a side-by-side comparison of photos taken on holiday using the RX100 mk3 and my iPhone... My conclusion was that the iPhone took the better "snaps", what with it's auto HDR and tricks the photos taken look as good and sometimes better than the ones taken with the RX.... but... this was due partly to the better framing and software of the iPhone but with a little post production in lightroom the RX's shots were the better "pictures" which begged the question.. given it took extra work to get the shot with the RX are these cameras relevant in today’s world?
The best camera is always the one in your hand.
Great video Robin! I love my RX100, it's the first, but it's so good! For that age it's a perfect little camera with excellent image quality! And so cheap ;-)
The price of RX100 (any iteration) in the used market has gone up spectacularly.
@@robinwong oh wow, I bought mine very cheap, but it's...2 or 3 years ago.
I own one totally converted IR. Reliable camera.
Legendary camera, I still remember when it was released, it was amazing how a sleek compact camera was packed with such great features and delivered an astonishing image quality.
The mk4 a mk5 are the sweet spot imo. They have many of their issues addressed and they shoot 4k at a reasonable price.
Sadly, I think the mk7 was the last of the series as Sony has moved on and released the ZV-1 with focus on videos for content creators.
You make some very good points about Sony in general.
Almost every pro that I know who shoots Sony or changed to Sony from another camera system says that they did it for the professional output and not for the experience of the camera itself, citing it as a tool. Sony makes great images when you need it but seems to lack a soul to the experience of taking photos or video.
The compact line apparently is the same way.
Some of those same pros have second and third cameras for their non professional work and they almost all have smaller point and shoots to enjoy their photography and have canon or Fuji compacts instead.
I owned a RX 100 IV, which has EVF, nice Videofeatures and a good imagequality. I used it with a little grip,,which you can put on the right side, so the ergonomics are much better.
A camera should be good to use without adding anything. Why not make the grip a default design?
I have the original RX100 and I added an aftermarket rubber front grip (from Sony) that greatly increases the comfort of handling. The camera is much easier to hold for long periods, and it even makes the very small rear thumb grip work properly. I use the camera quite a bit (when I'm not using micro four thirds) and the screen lag really doesn't bother me.
I bought RX100M3 in 2017 for my first Japan trip. I had no experience with photography and still shot many memorable and nice pictures. The only poor performance was at night. Nowadays I use my iPhone and a Fujifilm X-S10, so it's collecting dust. Still love it.
yeah the 1 inch sensor falls apart quickly in low light
I think the shape is where Olympus really got the TG-6/7 right even though it's a pretty flat shape. I can hold either camera comfortably in my hand and operate it with one hand without too much trouble. I really don't enjoy trying to grab flat, slippery camera bodies. Even my Olympus EPL-8 feels nice in my hand if I'm holding it in one hand. They really add the right kinds of small features in the right places to make it easier to hold. I wish more places did that. It makes it so much easier to handle
People often overlook the importance of camera handling. It matters.
When I was shooting with the original RX100 back in 2012-2014 before I moved to Olympus, I found that the handling was greatly improved by attaching a mini-tripod like the GorillaPod. Not only giving a firm hand grip on the camera, you could secure the camera to almost anything with the magnetic flexible legs for long exposures and unusual angles. I have some great shots of the New York city skyline at blue hour and night taken at base ISO with the RX100 firmly attached to a convenient fencepost.
A camera should work perfectly without any external attachments. With adding a tripod or grip, it isn't small any more.
Confirmed. I bought it when it came out, and it's still doing duty, mostly as a mini-size backup. Some shortcomings, but no matter.
Yeap it still can make some good images today.
I own the RX 100 VA and it is quite impressive. Sharpness and resolution are one a high level. Even the noislevel in low light situations convinced me. The only disadvantage in my opinion is the Image stabilisation. Every Olympus Om- d stabilizer s working better!
Hi Robin! This is not directly connected to your video, but please would you consider doing a few post processing walk through videos? I am always struck by the vibrance of your photos, not matter what camera you use.
Also perhaps some reviews of editing software? I've just started to shoot in RAW, but I am still using Apple Photos. I have trialled several editing software progams, including Luminar Neo, DXO Photolab and Affinity Photo, but I am confused by the number of options in these powerful programs.
Thanks for considering this request.
Totally agree, I tried this camera and the specs are good but to me, just shooting and handling the camera wasn't the best experience or fun...
Yeap, the handling could be better.
I upgraded my RX100/2 a couple of years ago for a RX100/Va. The viewfinder, faster lens, and "flippy" screen being the main improvements for me. The slippery body and complex (although improved over the RX100/2) menu are still annoying. Other than that I think it is an excellent compact camera. The original RX100 is now 12 years old, so perhaps some of the shortcomings are understandable. Keep up the good work 😁
I heard the viewfinder isn't great either, and the flippy screen is flimsy!
I got the RX100V in March. This past week I tossed it in my fanny pack all around Havana and Santa Maria beach along with everything else. I put a screen protector on it for the trip, and it shows some sign of wear but held up great. The evf worked great in the harsh sun. The flip up screen was sturdy enough! Super happy with it as a tiny compact travel camera.
Hi Robin, I recently asked you if you would prefer the E-M1 mk I or E-M5 mk II and you recommended the E-M1 mk II if I could afford it. I got lucky and found a great deal and am now a very happy owner of the E-M1 mk II. A big thanks to you, love your channel :)
E-M1 Mark II is so awesome!
just recently found out, 1 inches sensor sony RX10 iv can do very good bird photography
Keep doing reviews pls
More to come
Hi Robin, my Rx100 Vii is my most used camera…can take good photos and video. That said, not my favorite camera to use…doesn’t have a great shooting feel, far from perfect. It does however come with me on long hikes/backpacks or walks where it’s size is a big plus (love the 200 equivalent lens which can be digitally enhanced to 400 - though rarely use and stop at 300). The version 5 had a faster 1.8 lens, but for me the zoom was less than my needs. The Rx 100vii is a great camera for most overall uses. Probably the favorite do it all camera at MarkusPix too.
Yeap, the RX100VII is a good camera, but the problem is the asking price. I'd rather get a higher level camera from any other manufacturers.
@@robinwongfair point! LUMIX made a similar model if I recall correctly, less zoom, but very nice at half the price. Lx 100ii.
I have and still use this camera but my major problem with it is the lcd screen. In bright sunlight, it is not useable causing me to guess at the composition. While I have become surprisingly good at this, I am thinking about giving it up .
I don't have issues with the LCD screen in Malaysian sun, maybe the sun in your location is brighter.
omg I need helppp I cannot decide if i should get this.😭😭😭
Does this camera have a flash
and able to shoot vintage retro pictures like a ccd?
I had the iV version and regret selling it!!
These cameras are much better than you think. The images somehow are as good as many MFT but Sony gets it from a 1 inch. I even did a tiny bit of astrophotography with this, tho not the right tool for that! Good review, I am now very curious to test the corner performance of my mum's mark I, not that she cares lol. Robin, curious if you like the colors. Usually I don't love sony there.
It isn't as good as Micro Four Thirds, especially when you shoot at ISO400 or above, you can quickly notice the difference. If you can keep your ISO to 100 all the time, yes, it is very close to Micro Four Thirds.
No I don't like the colors.
@@robinwong :)
@robinwong - how high an ISO is m43 capable of?
View finder is not available and also lcd display very difficult to see the object in High light ☀️ condition.
I've never been a fan of compacts that have zero grip for my hand - that extra finger grip makes for a much more comfortable walk around town.
People often underestimate the importance of camera handling. Shooting experience matters more than image output in my opinion.
Yeah the A7c at least has good ergonomic accessories including thumb grips.
It needs at least a good back thumb grip. You basically treat this camera like you have to keep all of it in your hands all the time, otherwise put it down. Not the best there. It IS great though!
I can't find one the current model- the mark 7. everyone is out of stock. Some commenters have said it is discontinued. So buying a new one may be a moot point.
Then buy used.
Hi Robin I did a band shoot today stage lights and not much light with my Oympus OM-D E mk11 12/100 f4 lens
I really struggled for shutter speed even with iso on auto can you help me with a word of advise please would really appreciate it
There is a reason why I don't use zooms. I shoot with F1.2, F1.8 primes, that let so much more light in, hence negating the use of crazy high ISO numbers.
Hi Robin, thanks for taking us on a tour of the Sony RX 100. A mixed bag of good points and Flaws, but overall the image quality is good and you photographed some great Compositions. Your love of photography really shows, not many photographers would show an ageing camera. They are what I call CAMERA SNOBS. Thanks Robin ☺️
I don't think there are bad cameras, just find the one that works best for you!
@@robinwong Yes its important to find the right camera. Thanks Robin ☺️
I have the Sony RX100 M3 its a good Camera but the Whitebalance is Tricky. Pictures have a old Vintage style sometimes 🤔. Crazy thing, I also owend the Sony HX60, it feels so good in Hands, nice Rubbergrip and higher Shutterbutton.
Why can not Sony build this Style in the RX Series🤌🤔
unfortunately that was replaced with zv line, i wonder if you tryed hx50 which is soo good tho
Nope. The HX50 has tiny image sensor. Nope nope nope.
What do you think is the right price for a used RX100 mark1 ?
Depending on your local used market, there is no singular right price.
Thanks Robin, I have often desired a RX100, but I recently acquired an Olympus XZ-1 which seems a lot better than, at least, the earlier RX100s.
I have both and I disagree.
Thanks, that's interesting, I haven't actually tried any model of the RX100, I look forward to a comparison one day. The XZ-1 lens detail is amazing as is the colour, I haven't yet tried any low light or demanding focus situations where the Sonys should be better.
the amount of detail of such an RX100 is higher than that of the XZ1. In the Sony you have a 1" matrix. It's better to write such things when you had both to compare
@@porcupine1974I did say I haven't been able to compare personally. I am sure you are right, I was disappointed with the soft areas of the Mk 1 RX100 lens in Robin's examples which made me compare with his.
Давно хочу приобрести эту камеру для повседневного использования. Она мне нравится больше, чем знаменитая Ricoh. Но конечно, она не замена моей OM-D E-M1III
I bought a V3 but I couldn't stand it !!!!! the raw files were terrible and the lens distortion was unbelievable, I did one trip with it and sold it immediately i think if you shoot with MFT you may ask yourself ? what is the hype about ? so its worth a try based on its compact size but it was a massive let down the focus points are also very odd a lot of the images look just out of focus in my opinion. I just don't see what people like about this range. compared to to any Pen or Pano models its just not even a contender ! think your summary is spot on Robin exactly what i found ! Keep up the good work
I think there is a place for super small, one camera to do it all. No Micro Four Thirds can come close to that setup, even the Panasonic GM1 has too many compromises. Of course, if you don't mind using larger cameras, we have much better options out there.
I’ve used the m7 but stopped as it suffers from a major issue: mediocre image stabilization. Over 40% of my stills shots were unusable given massive blur. And this while taking static objects, outside, during sunny days, in auto mode with image stabilization on. Other negatives include an unpleasant screen, an uneasy to hold and operate body (too small, slippery), a very fragile feel etc. Given the 1300 euro price, these are not acceptable to me
Still, if used for video with a tripod, then it’s ok
@marcrodet4900 - in my opinion, the RX100s tend to default to too low a shutter speed. If you can use Auto ISO, with Auto ISO Minimum Shutter Speed set higher, eg 1/125, you might have better luck.
i read that users on Alamy use one of these RX100s in their street photos for editorials, too. since its so discrete. i kinda want one of these too, just to have it in a pocket where im in situations where anything can happen. oh well, one day i hope!
I am sure you can find one in the used market at a good price.
When this one came out I was very enthusiastic about it and could never afford one.
I ended up with a Lumix LF1. Not quite a 1" sensor (1/1.7), but a similar form factor and target. I enjoyed it, but handling was always a thing. It felt like a better phone camera, and I guess that's the idea.
I replaced it with the Lumix G7 and handling of course was on a whole different level, as is today with my EM5 mk3. Really enjoy shooting with these over longer periods compared to the LF1, so handling is truly key.
There is a cheap grip from Sony that can be attached to the camera. This makes handling much better
Why not make it a default design? Why allow people to use such a horrible ergonomics and handling on your camera?
Maybe because some like the sleek design and Sony can sell accessories
It’s a good point that it’s more appealing to casual shooters with big specs and small size, rather than to photographers who look for different things. I never really thought about it like that before. I used to want one of these, but now I’d much rather have something a bit bigger, with a grip (even a small grip can make a huge difference), and so on.
Yeah Sony does not make cameras for photographers. It has been proven many times. They just want to please the number chasing crowd.
Latest RX100 has 200mm focal lenght excited 😄
I prefer the older shorter lenses with brighter lenses. so NOT excited.
I have the RX10 Mark-1 and the Canon G9x Mark-2 (which uses the exact same sensor as the RX100) . I wanted to take a picture of my new watch in dim-lighting a few weeks ago to e-mail a picture of it to someone - so obviously, I grabbed my Samsung Galaxy S22 so I can instantly e-mail picture. What a waste of time! I literally wasted 15 minutes trying to take a really good picture of it. Because the watch's glass face is very reflective and it was dim - my fancy smartphone simply had issues getting the focus correct because of the reflection on the watch's glass face; and all the pictures were very grainy when you pinch and zoom. Took ~8 pictures and all turned out like trash. So I caved in, and busted out my ancient Sony RX10 Mark-1 that was released in 2013. Voila! The first photo was flawless! It wasn't ideal having to take out the SD-card, then having to transfer it to my laptop in order to e-mail the picture, but I got the results I wanted.....from a camera that was released 11 years ago.
No smartphone can beat a rea camera, not yet.
Sony please make an APS-C sensor version of RX100. A RX10 Mark1 perhaps
They can't. The camera size is too small.
@@robinwong Yeah, but I wouldn't mind it if it was a bit bigger
Robin, review Yi M1 with the latest v3.2 firmware, and I think you'd be surprised. It's dirt cheap, about USD100-125 with 12-40 kit lens here in Indonesia, and the quality of photo when shooting in raw, is equal or even surpass my GX85.
Sure. Someone can send me one. And I can review it.
Hey Question what's better? the Olympus PEN E-PL1 or Canon PowerShot G10 or Pentax Q10???.
pls it's my first buying a Camera
None. Get Olympus E-PL7 at least. Or Canon G1X. The rest forget about it.
@@robinwong ahh ok ok thx
@@robinwong how about Ricoh GX100 or the Ricoh R10 or Ricoh CX5?
@@robinwong or Olympus Stylus XZ-2?
I prefer Olympus XZ-2 ;)
It has smaller sensor but also with less resolution, bit faster lens at long end, hotshoe with external flash or EVF capability and tiltable LCD...
As much as I love the XZ-2, it isn't great either. If only Olympus added a 1 inch sensor.
Complaining about the lack of a grip make me smile, it's camera not a machine gun... 😂😂😂
Professional camera grips are modeled based on Pistol Grip. No joke. It is the best, most practical and comfortable handling grip, pistol based.
@@robinwong maybe they're not confortable to hold in a pocket... Anyway compact and grip should not sit in the same sentence...😃
And people hide pistols in their pockets. Facts
@@robinwong I'm happy to know that in your country guns are as thick as a camera with a grip and a lens...😂😂😂
I think the Lumix ZS100 and 200 are worthy competitors for less money.
The lens however, isn't good.
Regarding new compact camera releases, it seems this market is dying. Everyone is turning to smartphones. What's your opinion on this matter?
Smartphones cannot do many things that real cameras can do.