Ty Jordan! Sometimes in rec play I have partners that run to the line when I drop even when I call 'deep' to tell them to stay back. Takes patience for the 5th shot. Love your videos!
Thank you for visually defining this back area. You were very clear in selling the value of avoiding doing a shot in this area. Though pros can drop from anywhere and in any way possible (tweeners), the majority of us regular humans need the best possible scenario to handle shots at us and positioning is key!
Thanks for the vid. I'm a newer player and the people at the local YMCA pickleball club kinda get on me cause I don't crash the net like they do. I tell them it's not necessary to do that and of course I see them miss shots at the feet in transition all the time. They just say ohh I wasn't fast enough that's all. This video will help me prove my side. Thanks again.
Wow!!! This is really good. Maybe the best!! I know this and practice similar situations. Now all I have to do with my drill group is tell them to watch this. Don't have to explain it over and over ever again!!! LOL ☺ Thanks Jordan.
Hi again. Your old games keep popping up on you tube. This one Jan. 14 2017 You and David Wage, vs Daniel Moore and Matt Staubus. I love to watch you play. You have so much energy and the ability to move all over the court. No telling what will show up next. I wish I could play as well as you. Have a great day. Ben
I just went back and watch the video and your were great. Such movement. You looked better than you did in your tournament video. You looked so happy. You had on your gray Brones t shirt that you can see in one sequence. Looking forward to more videos. Thank you Ben
such good information and visuals on what to do and what not to do. I didn't realize until I saw this that I am getting into that red zone and paying for it. either stay back or get far enough into the transition zone to make a good drop, etc. great tips!
I understand the “redundancy” comment also but consider the vast number of 3.0 and below players who need that to soak in and that group has to be a large part of Jordan’s audience.
Thanks so much! I find that I often step into the Red Zone as part of my transition up the NVZ. Will definitely be more aware. One problem I find is that the old school of thought "just get up to the NVZ" as fast you can is problematic if my partner zips in really fast after my third shot (which may not be the best) and he/she gets drilled or is out of position to give a decent return. Your thoughts on this. Thanks again!
Hi Jordan, Thanks for this great tutorial. I will implement it in my game. In regards to staying at the baseline if the drop is too high or deep, what's the footwork and shot selection if the opponent hits to the side lines or a drop/block? Do you have any tutorial on: 1) how to return a low ball (bounces very low)? Should I drop or slice 2) how to return a short ball? Usually when my opponents mishit it to the NVZ and I am at the baseline
Are you also trying to get to transition zone if you/your partner drive the 3rd/5th etc or are you waiting for a drop to move? Obviously harder to do but wondering if you stay back if your partner drives..
I will watch my partner as they hit, if I see him swinging big, I can do one of two things: crash the net to put pressure on the net team, or stay back with them and get ready for the next ball. Lots of this decision making has to do with the quality of my partner’s drives.
Great video, one question, as I am moving thru the transition zone toward the kitchen, at what point should I stop in order to be ready for the ball potentially being returned to me? I find that I often am hitting balls on the run and the results of doing so aren't always good. Should I stop at the moment my opponent makes contact with the ball? Before? Thanks for all of the great content.
Great question. For a short answer, if you’re getting caught in transition moving up, you just need to split step way sooner. Try stopping as your opponent starts their swing on their 4th shot.
Thank for another great video. Could you do a video on how to hit at ball at your feet. I played several games today and had trouble with ball hit at my feet. Looking forward to you next lesion. Thank you Ben
Thank you I went back and watch the video again and will try it. When will play in another tournament. I enjoyed that video and learned a lot. Thank you Ben
Question keeping in shape to play pickleball. How would recommend someone keep in shape. Do you have a warm up exercise routine that you do before you play. I am finding that playing pickleball is a physically demanding game.
Good question. A ball that forces the opponent to hit up is usually a good indicator that it’s a pretty good shot. Regardless, different people at different skill levels will be able to neutralize and handle different balls on their 5th shot. After the 3rd shot, stay back OR try to get in the best position possible (which is preferably past and through that red zone area) when hitting your 5th shot.
Trajectory recognition is the most important skill in pickleball. If you are still working on it, reading the paddle face of how your opponent is going to take the ball, can help you make the decision to move forward. If they are reaching down to lift up on the ball in front of them it is a green light.
Another fine job. While the video emphasized the movement of the engaged player, quite a number of times opponents hit away from me so I have free access to the NVZ. Would I be better off to be tight up to the NVZ or stay back a step or two until my partner works their way up through the transition zone? A good deep return can push my partner back and leave a sizable gap for opponents to target.
Great question Randy. I will do a video on this soon. Although for now, when you come up to the NVZ, you typically don’t want a huge gap in between you and your partner, but I do advise to be slightly ahead of your partner if you can. Lastly, if your partner is hitting really high 3rd balls and you’re getting the ball smashed at you in the transition zone, then you should probably stay back more.
@@BrionesPickleball While playing today, I had one person I shared the video with, calling out "dang, I got caught in that red zone" a few times. I don't know if they comment or like, but my gang enjoys your videos I send them.
Any videos on where I should hit a 3rd shot drop? Middle? Cross court etc I’m new at this but you say don’t get stuck in the red zone because the 5th is a hard shot from there but it’s easier in the red zone then behind the baseline yeah?
That’s a loaded question, although if you’re just starting out, I’d recommend hitting cross court or towards the middle of the court. Just like I say in the video, it’s about good positioning. If the 3rd shot is high or very attackable, then stay back behind the baseline until you can get into better position or through that red zone.
Hitting that ball that is going to hit your shoe is perhaps the hardest ball in pickleball to return. if you are behind the baseline a bit, your opponent cannot hit that spot without hitting the ball out.
Jordan, This is really good stuff! Thing is, it's equally dependent on your playing partner..Communication is HUGE if thi is going to work effectively. This will hardly ever work for casual rec- play because you need your partner to know how n when the two of you are going to move forward. I REALLY enjoyed this one. Kev-
Thanks Kev. When I play with someone I’ve never played with, I still approach the net the same way. The goal is to put myself in the best position possible-no matter what my partner does. Although depending on what shot they hit, I will have to adjust my positioning from there.
Just watched a game you played on Pickleball highlights. I could see some of what you are teaching us in the video. You could also use some real action play in your videos to demonstrate your points. You looked better in the you tube video than in your tournament video. Thank you and have you seen the video on pickleball highlights.
I play with a group of 4.0 to 4.5 players. Some of them are very good at placing short drops off higher 3rd shot drops. Staying back would mean losing that point. How would you handle this situation?
That’s really tough. Firstly, on a high 3rd shot, your opponent is going to hit an offensive shot regardless, whether it’s a deep swinging volley at your feet, or it’s a short drop that causes you to run up. So that being said, work on your drops. Also, I would try a drive drop combo and drop on the 5th. It’s typically much harder for them to drop off a good drive. I still would recommend getting into good position on your 5th shot either way, and trying not to get stuck that far back near the baseline.
Here’s my reply to a similar comment. I’m guessing your drops are too high when this happens. That’s really tough. Firstly, on a high 3rd shot, your opponent is going to hit an offensive shot regardless, whether it’s a deep swinging volley at your feet, or it’s a short drop that causes you to run up. So that being said, work on your drops. Also, I would try a drive drop combo and drop on the 5th. It’s typically much harder for them to drop off a good drive.
I have been playing pickleball for 3 months. I played 8 games today and used some of what I learned from your pickleball videos. One thing that I realized today is that there is something that you can not teach. Confidence! You need a degree of confidence in your ability to play to play well. My confidence goes up or down depending on the ability of my opponent. What is your opinion of this topic. This is the video that talked about in my last comment is, Don’t Trash Talk Jordan Briones | 4.5+ Pickleball Doubles Highlights March 15 2022. Check it out. You looked good.
Oh, that’s just some fun rec play. Also, those players are no where close to pro level. Here’s a breakdown of me playing against the pros. ua-cam.com/video/0ZeXylxA7aI/v-deo.html
I found another video of you. This time it is you and your wife. Check it out ( pickleball highlights of Katrina and Jordan Briones) on you tube. April 15 2016. It seems that you tube will choose videos for you based on what you viewed in the past. You and your wife looked great. Great movement and skill. have a great day Ben. I played 8 games today and I used some of what I learned from you.
Where is that two handed reset Jordan?. . . easier said than done. :) I am beginning to feel that if we didn’t have a two handed reset from the beginning we will tend to default to the one hander. I will let you know as I am going to drill it for a week with the ball machine. :)
Ty Jordan! Sometimes in rec play I have partners that run to the line when I drop even when I call 'deep' to tell them to stay back. Takes patience for the 5th shot. Love your videos!
Thanks!
Thank you for visually defining this back area. You were very clear in selling the value of avoiding doing a shot in this area. Though pros can drop from anywhere and in any way possible (tweeners), the majority of us regular humans need the best possible scenario to handle shots at us and positioning is key!
Yes! Even the pros try to avoid getting stuck that far back though. We’ll talk about why and how they do this in future videos.
Thanks for the vid. I'm a newer player and the people at the local YMCA pickleball club kinda get on me cause I don't crash the net like they do. I tell them it's not necessary to do that and of course I see them miss shots at the feet in transition all the time. They just say ohh I wasn't fast enough that's all. This video will help me prove my side. Thanks again.
Np Ron !
Excellent video instruction. I love how you make it clear that there are variables. Not too much in pb is 100% of the time. The best!
Thanks Walt!
Wow!!! This is really good. Maybe the best!! I know this and practice similar situations. Now all I have to do with my drill group is tell them to watch this. Don't have to explain it over and over ever again!!! LOL ☺
Thanks Jordan.
Lol. Thanks!
Wish I had a drill group. Blessings to you!!!
Hi again. Your old games keep popping up on you tube. This one Jan. 14 2017 You and David Wage, vs Daniel Moore and Matt Staubus. I love to watch you play. You have so much energy and the ability to move all over the court. No telling what will show up next. I wish I could play as well as you. Have a great day. Ben
Lol thanks Ben !
Thanks Jordan! That's a mistake I've been making but didn't realize clearly. Especially against more aggressive players, I tend to stay back too much.
Awesome!
I just went back and watch the video and your were great. Such movement. You looked better than you did in your tournament video. You looked so happy. You had on your gray Brones t shirt that you can see in one sequence. Looking forward to more videos. Thank you Ben
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such good information and visuals on what to do and what not to do. I didn't realize until I saw this that I am getting into that red zone and paying for it. either stay back or get far enough into the transition zone to make a good drop, etc. great tips!
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You are so good and a real blessing. You could get to your point faster and cut some of the redundancy
Thanks
I understand the “redundancy” comment also but consider the vast number of 3.0 and below players who need that to soak in and that group has to be a large part of Jordan’s audience.
Thanks so much! I find that I often step into the Red Zone as part of my transition up the NVZ. Will definitely be more aware. One problem I find is that the old school of thought "just get up to the NVZ" as fast you can is problematic if my partner zips in really fast after my third shot (which may not be the best) and he/she gets drilled or is out of position to give a decent return. Your thoughts on this. Thanks again!
Thanks !!
ua-cam.com/video/vtSY-38BdVg/v-deo.html
Great video. I’m glad you are emphasizing that it may take a few shots to get to the NVZ line!
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Thank you very much. Great video. Great information. Great editing.
Thanks David !
Hi Jordan,
Thanks for this great tutorial. I will implement it in my game.
In regards to staying at the baseline if the drop is too high or deep, what's the footwork and shot selection if the opponent hits to the side lines or a drop/block?
Do you have any tutorial on:
1) how to return a low ball (bounces very low)? Should I drop or slice
2) how to return a short ball? Usually when my opponents mishit it to the NVZ and I am at the baseline
Great suggestions!
Are you also trying to get to transition zone if you/your partner drive the 3rd/5th etc or are you waiting for a drop to move? Obviously harder to do but wondering if you stay back if your partner drives..
I will watch my partner as they hit, if I see him swinging big, I can do one of two things: crash the net to put pressure on the net team, or stay back with them and get ready for the next ball. Lots of this decision making has to do with the quality of my partner’s drives.
Great video, one question, as I am moving thru the transition zone toward the kitchen, at what point should I stop in order to be ready for the ball potentially being returned to me? I find that I often am hitting balls on the run and the results of doing so aren't always good. Should I stop at the moment my opponent makes contact with the ball? Before? Thanks for all of the great content.
Great question. For a short answer, if you’re getting caught in transition moving up, you just need to split step way sooner. Try stopping as your opponent starts their swing on their 4th shot.
Very good point about the red zone I stuck in there all the time. Now I know. Thank you !
Positioning is so important!
What exercises and stretches do you do to prepare for your matches?
Thank for another great video. Could you do a video on how to hit at ball at your feet. I played several games today and had trouble with ball hit at my feet. Looking forward to you next lesion. Thank you Ben
How about this one?
ua-cam.com/video/M_2112ohgwE/v-deo.html
Thank you I went back and watch the video again and will try it. When will play in another tournament. I enjoyed that video and learned a lot. Thank you Ben
So good, thank you Jordon!
Thanks Darci !
Great video! I learned a lot
Thanks!
Question keeping in shape to play pickleball. How would recommend someone keep in shape. Do you have a warm up exercise routine that you do before you play. I am finding that playing pickleball is a physically demanding game.
I’ll have to make one!
Great video Jordan, very clear.
Thanks!
As mentioned at 9:37, what is considered a "fairly good" third shot?
Good question. A ball that forces the opponent to hit up is usually a good indicator that it’s a pretty good shot. Regardless, different people at different skill levels will be able to neutralize and handle different balls on their 5th shot. After the 3rd shot, stay back OR try to get in the best position possible (which is preferably past and through that red zone area) when hitting your 5th shot.
Trajectory recognition is the most important skill in pickleball. If you are still working on it, reading the paddle face of how your opponent is going to take the ball, can help you make the decision to move forward. If they are reaching down to lift up on the ball in front of them it is a green light.
Another fine job. While the video emphasized the movement of the engaged player, quite a number of times opponents hit away from me so I have free access to the NVZ. Would I be better off to be tight up to the NVZ or stay back a step or two until my partner works their way up through the transition zone? A good deep return can push my partner back and leave a sizable gap for opponents to target.
Great question Randy. I will do a video on this soon. Although for now, when you come up to the NVZ, you typically don’t want a huge gap in between you and your partner, but I do advise to be slightly ahead of your partner if you can. Lastly, if your partner is hitting really high 3rd balls and you’re getting the ball smashed at you in the transition zone, then you should probably stay back more.
@@BrionesPickleball While playing today, I had one person I shared the video with, calling out "dang, I got caught in that red zone" a few times. I don't know if they comment or like, but my gang enjoys your videos I send them.
Thanks Randy!!
정말 좋은 기술인거 같습니다 . 저희 부부 둘다 조던님의 왕 팬입니다.
wow ~~ this is good skill to dominant to NVZ / me and my wife aer huge fan of yours Jordan
Thanks!!
AWESOME video thank you
Np !
Any videos on where I should hit a 3rd shot drop? Middle? Cross court etc
I’m new at this but you say don’t get stuck in the red zone because the 5th is a hard shot from there but it’s easier in the red zone then behind the baseline yeah?
That’s a loaded question, although if you’re just starting out, I’d recommend hitting cross court or towards the middle of the court.
Just like I say in the video, it’s about good positioning. If the 3rd shot is high or very attackable, then stay back behind the baseline until you can get into better position or through that red zone.
Hitting that ball that is going to hit your shoe is perhaps the hardest ball in pickleball to return. if you are behind the baseline a bit, your opponent cannot hit that spot without hitting the ball out.
Jordan,
This is really good stuff! Thing is, it's equally dependent on your playing partner..Communication is HUGE if thi is going to work effectively. This will hardly ever work for casual rec- play because you need your partner to know how n when the two of you are going to move forward.
I REALLY enjoyed this one.
Kev-
Thanks Kev.
When I play with someone I’ve never played with, I still approach the net the same way. The goal is to put myself in the best position possible-no matter what my partner does. Although depending on what shot they hit, I will have to adjust my positioning from there.
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True that.
I agree.
FYI- you playing in Newport Beach next month??
No lol
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Ha! Just curious.
Take care..
Well Done JB.
Thanks Vito !
Great explanation Jordan. 👌
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Just watched a game you played on Pickleball highlights. I could see some of what you are teaching us in the video. You could also use some real action play in your videos to demonstrate your points. You looked better in the you tube video than in your tournament video. Thank you and have you seen the video on pickleball highlights.
Thanks. Haven’t seen the video you’re talking about.
“Let’s jump right in. Now, before we get started…”
Lol
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(*All my conversations)
I play with a group of 4.0 to 4.5 players. Some of them are very good at placing short drops off higher 3rd shot drops. Staying back would mean losing that point. How would you handle this situation?
That’s really tough. Firstly, on a high 3rd shot, your opponent is going to hit an offensive shot regardless, whether it’s a deep swinging volley at your feet, or it’s a short drop that causes you to run up. So that being said, work on your drops. Also, I would try a drive drop combo and drop on the 5th. It’s typically much harder for them to drop off a good drive.
I still would recommend getting into good position on your 5th shot either way, and trying not to get stuck that far back near the baseline.
(don't be mad) - MOVE to that shot - it's a freeway to the line!
Great video will start using the drill with my partner
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How about if you are back and the 4 or 6 shot is a short dink?
Here’s my reply to a similar comment. I’m guessing your drops are too high when this happens.
That’s really tough. Firstly, on a high 3rd shot, your opponent is going to hit an offensive shot regardless, whether it’s a deep swinging volley at your feet, or it’s a short drop that causes you to run up. So that being said, work on your drops. Also, I would try a drive drop combo and drop on the 5th. It’s typically much harder for them to drop off a good drive.
I still would recommend getting into good position on your 5th shot either way, and trying not to get stuck that far back near the baseline.
That makes sense. My drops are probably too high.
I have been playing pickleball for 3 months. I played 8 games today and used some of what I learned from your pickleball videos. One thing that I realized today is that there is something that you can not teach. Confidence! You need a degree of confidence in your ability to play to play well. My confidence goes up or down depending on the ability of my opponent. What is your opinion of this topic. This is the video that talked about in my last comment is, Don’t Trash Talk Jordan Briones | 4.5+ Pickleball Doubles Highlights March 15 2022. Check it out. You looked good.
Oh, that’s just some fun rec play. Also, those players are no where close to pro level.
Here’s a breakdown of me playing against the pros.
ua-cam.com/video/0ZeXylxA7aI/v-deo.html
I found another video of you. This time it is you and your wife. Check it out ( pickleball highlights of Katrina and Jordan Briones) on you tube. April 15 2016. It seems that you tube will choose videos for you based on what you viewed in the past. You and your wife looked great. Great movement and skill. have a great day Ben. I played 8 games today and I used some of what I learned from you.
Awesome Ben!
Where is that two handed reset Jordan?. . . easier said than done. :)
I am beginning to feel that if we didn’t have a two handed reset from the beginning we will tend to default to the one hander. I will let you know as I am going to drill it for a week with the ball machine. :)
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On the flip side you don't want to leave a lot of room in front for the wise opponent to merely drop/block their shot into the kitchen on you.
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Explaining something over and over becomes negative at a certain point where the more you say, the LESS they understand. Explain once, demo and recap.
Thanks for the comment. Although everyone that has commented seems to understand. Lol.
Thanks Jordan, Great video!!
Thanks Kim!