13/10 pure perfection lighting in a bottle situation rob zombie still has the best orlock then klaus is second then i would put bill at 3 rob zombie did something special in his munsters were orlock is throughout the movie and gets as much screen time as Michael as beetle juice but bill lily William and Arron all bring it everyone down to the cats dogs rats tear up the movie Robert is great for the job
Some remakes that I LIKE (a real rarity) are Invasion of the Body Snatchers 78, The Thing 82, Scarface 93, Nosferatu 79 (mind you, not THIS current one being discussed here). THOSE, however, are OLDER ones, having nothing to do with this current Hollywood remake trend (which I pretty well detest).
I have no issue with remakes. I think focusing on actor interaction for a remake and review is peripheral. Story and depiction are more relevant. Eggers treats each narrative as if its underlying assumptions are real. That is who he is as a film maker. For example, when the vampire speaks, he is using Dacian. Dacian is a dead language (no pun intended). It was the language of the Ancient Dacians who lived in the area that will become Romania and were conquered by the Romans in the Second Century. This is the kind of detail brought to the narrative. This is also seen in the period specific speech and relational structure of the 19th Century Germans depicted. Further, Nosferatu is tied to Gothic literature. Gothic works developed within Romanticism. Two early foci of the Romantic Movement are "sturm und drang" (often translated as storm and stress). The angst and turmoil being evoked is necessary to create mood. The mood is a dread. It is found in the time between choice and consequence, the border between the understood and foreign, and confrontation. All of this is what makes the heroine's sacrifice poignant. I this this is a fantastic film.
"You don't belong with the living," Orlok tells Ellen in the Dacian language at the film's beginning. This brief introduction reveals the entire narrative and its conclusion: she has made a pact with Orlok, sealing her fate to be with him forever. "I've never been so happy," she declares. From the start, she has been like the possessed somnambulist, merely waiting for Orlok to fulfill their union. What a beautiful poetic film, with Orlok looking like the decayed Vlad, the Impaler. As a Filipino who is fascinated by traditional world folklore, I believe Eggers is a genius.
Awww thank you so much! :) I appreciate the kind words. Going to do a more in depth review soon hopefully. I think I maybe want to see it again though before I do my full review.
@ Ellen is technically an Enchantress, a Medium. Born that way, she reaches out to the unknown cause she doesn't know she has the power to talk and commune with the dead. In a way she's a untapped Necromancer. That's how Eggers kinda reformulated the story.
3:42 I definitely agree with that. Maybe because The Lighthouse is capable of bringing multiple interpretations of its elements and every time I watch it I notice a new way of looking at something. While Nosferatu has already an already known story to tell.
Yea, kinda pathetic that THAT movie is over forty years old and remains generally overlooked, while this NEW version got hyped through the roof before it was even released.
I don't think it was overlooked per se. It just had it's time when it came out in the 70s. Whereas this just came out. And this is more of an hommage to the original than the 70s version. Although Eggers definitely brings his own take to the look and feel of this one as well. I've actually also heard a lot of people talking about the Werner Herzog version recently probably also because it's free on Tubi. So a lot of people have been watching that one recently & talking about it. Which is also great. No one is talking about Shadow of the Vampire either which is also quite good but I wouldn't even say that is being overlooked. But that's another good one if you haven't seen it. It's about the making of Nosferatu and also has Willem Dafoe in it who plays Max Schreck playing Nosferatu. lol
@@VampX13 I've found THAT movie to be pretty obscure generally speaking (outside of aficianados and critics). Its pretty acclaimed, but not popularly known. It probably has been catching some of the publicity generated by this NEW version of late though, I don't doubt that.
Same here- just seen it with my nieces and we all think it was great, but... something was missing. Or something was overdone? Can't really pin point what. Visually its stunning. Acting was first class. Very true to source material. Why do I feel like that😭
It was that the Hardings took too much of the focus of the movie because I didn't care about them at all, I just thought why not more scenes with Thomas and Ellen ? Thank you for your review !
I think it's the ending that doesn't land as powerfully as it could have. You have a well-done payoff with Friedrich Harding, as earlier in the film it's established he's passionate about his wife, and his ending seems to be a desperate act of necrophilia. When Nicholas Hoult discovers his dead wife in the arms of a monster, he just sheds a couple of tears, and we pan to Dafoe's character, who gives us some exposition about her sacrifice. Nicholas Hoult survived The Count's castle prison, washed up on a river bank, had to will his way back to save his wife, and in the end failed. At her deathbed, he just cries a little? He should have lost his shit and cursed the world, something more dramatic, that would have made her sacrifice resonate more.
I'm feeling this. Yeah there was some catharsis for me missing and I think that might have been it. In general I feel like Thomas' character never gets as much to play with emotionally as some of the other characters. And it is a shame because I do think we could connect with him a lot more in this. I mean he is doing everything here in service of his wife, or so he claims. I really enjoyed the scene where Ellen reveals her connection to Nosferatu and blames herself for everything and Thomas chooses to accept Ellen, absolving her of sin at least in his eyes and telling her he loves her no matter what. I feel like that is some of the strongest stuff we get from both of these characters, emotionally speaking.
• It never switches between color and B/W; that’s why it’s so smooth. * In my second viewing it seemed less long than the first time. • You say between Ellen and Thomas “you didn’t feel as much of a connection there.” Do you mean emotional, romantic connection between them? (In my view *they are not emotionally close* and this is among the most grim parts of the story!)
I mean in terms of their chemistry on screen. It like your view on this being intentional though. That is an interesting thought and does make things a bit more sad. Although Ellen seems very committed to Thomas as he does her, so that plays a bit against them not having chemistry as they seem infatuated with one another on paper. However it could be that they are more into the idea of one another. But then again the conversation they have where Thomas says he accepts Ellen as she is and doesn't care if she has sinned, implies once again that their bond is quite true and earnest. Hmmm. I need to rewatch. lol Also yes! It's so cool that it wasn't even shot in black and white. They just created that colorless feel naturally with palettes and lighting. Wowzers. I'm not surprised it felt so seamless. Also what a way to save on budget for a project like this and yet use that choice to overall elevate the piece. I really think the way they played with light and palettes here was masterful for creating mood and setting tone. Seriously Eggers is on another level.
Im loving Robert Eggers, I've loved 3/4 of his films. I did not care that much for the Lighthouse, if I'm gonna be honest, if I ever get a copy it will be just because I want to collect Robert Eggers films. I will say it was a beautifully done film. Of the 3 I loved here is how I would rank them. 1) The Northman 2) Nosferatu 3) The Witch
My girlfriend said this is definitely a movie that could use trigger warnings for all the S/A references in it, I could have done without all that. The bigger thing for me was some of the editing, with one scene in particular almost feeling like a grimdark family guy cut away where they are talking about how strange someones behavior was then cut to him naked, rambling and laughing for half a minute before resuming with the previous conversation.
It was the moustache that bothered me, Dracula yes, but not Orlok. Especially if you have in your mind the 1979 Klaus Kinski version. And also a bit too heavy on the possession scenes... Otherwise great film, i would give it a 7.5/10
Here's the thing, not all vampire myths work like that. In this case, my interpretation of the film is that the process takes time to set in. I think for example because Thomas had been exposed quite a bit and fed on multiple times but not killed in the process, he would possibly have turned into a vampire. However Ellen's sacrifice ultimately allowed them to defeat Orlok and because of this Thomas would be saved. It seemed like they were alluding to the fact that Thomas was under Orlok's spell somewhat but that if Orlok was defeated he'd be fully free. In some myths destroying the sire reverses or the curse, or if already a vampire, causes their fledglings to burn up or turn to dust along with the one who turned them. I was actually waiting for Anna and her kids to turn into vampires and attack Friedrich went he went to visit their tomb. But nawww. I also don't think that Orlok ever intended to turn anyone though. He seems like the lone vamp sort. lol Also in some myths, changing someone into a vampire isn't always guaranteed. Even if you follow all the steps, it doesn't always work. It's more like a roll of a dice. So this could also be that version. Some myths also require an exchange of blood. So that could also be a factor here potentially. There are so many different vampire myths honestly. lol
@ thank you for responding. You make many good points. I believe that Orlok intentions where to make Ellen his wife and a vampire. But as you pointed out his death removed any chance of becoming a vampire would not happen. I still believe that vampires are looking for a mate. In this case you are 100 per cent correct!
its because of the hype, and its popular, so you are bias to the hype, you know the movie is not that good yet you have to say its good because its new and everybody is talking about it
How do you feel about remakes?
They have to add to the lore without stepping on the original and not just be a shot for shot.
13/10 pure perfection lighting in a bottle situation rob zombie still has the best orlock then klaus is second then i would put bill at 3 rob zombie did something special in his munsters were orlock is throughout the movie and gets as much screen time as Michael as beetle juice but bill lily William and Arron all bring it everyone down to the cats dogs rats tear up the movie Robert is great for the job
What makes the movie work and really sets it over the top is bill being orlock Robert really let him improvise
Some remakes that I LIKE (a real rarity) are Invasion of the Body Snatchers 78, The Thing 82, Scarface 93, Nosferatu 79 (mind you, not THIS current one being discussed here). THOSE, however, are OLDER ones, having nothing to do with this current Hollywood remake trend (which I pretty well detest).
I have no issue with remakes. I think focusing on actor interaction for a remake and review is peripheral. Story and depiction are more relevant. Eggers treats each narrative as if its underlying assumptions are real. That is who he is as a film maker. For example, when the vampire speaks, he is using Dacian. Dacian is a dead language (no pun intended). It was the language of the Ancient Dacians who lived in the area that will become Romania and were conquered by the Romans in the Second Century. This is the kind of detail brought to the narrative. This is also seen in the period specific speech and relational structure of the 19th Century Germans depicted. Further, Nosferatu is tied to Gothic literature. Gothic works developed within Romanticism. Two early foci of the Romantic Movement are "sturm und drang" (often translated as storm and stress). The angst and turmoil being evoked is necessary to create mood. The mood is a dread. It is found in the time between choice and consequence, the border between the understood and foreign, and confrontation. All of this is what makes the heroine's sacrifice poignant. I this this is a fantastic film.
"You don't belong with the living," Orlok tells Ellen in the Dacian language at the film's beginning. This brief introduction reveals the entire narrative and its conclusion: she has made a pact with Orlok, sealing her fate to be with him forever. "I've never been so happy," she declares. From the start, she has been like the possessed somnambulist, merely waiting for Orlok to fulfill their union. What a beautiful poetic film, with Orlok looking like the decayed Vlad, the Impaler. As a Filipino who is fascinated by traditional world folklore, I believe Eggers is a genius.
Thank you for this refreshing review, better than a lot of the others Ive seen.
Awww thank you so much! :) I appreciate the kind words. Going to do a more in depth review soon hopefully. I think I maybe want to see it again though before I do my full review.
@ Ellen is technically an Enchantress, a Medium. Born that way, she reaches out to the unknown cause she doesn't know she has the power to talk and commune with the dead. In a way she's a untapped Necromancer. That's how Eggers kinda reformulated the story.
Thank you for your review, I'm watching it again on Saturday.
Love that! Hope you enjoy your next viewing. :)
Hot Take: Bill Skarsgård is in serious competition to have given one of the best vampire performances of all time, definitely in top 10
I've seen a ton of vampire movies and this was my favorite.
3:42 I definitely agree with that.
Maybe because The Lighthouse is capable of bringing multiple interpretations of its elements and every time I watch it I notice a new way of looking at something. While Nosferatu has already an already known story to tell.
I rank it 13/10
6 Coffins out of 5
And 5,000 trained rats out of 2,000 trained rats!
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@@GreyUsurper How many Waluigis or Dr. Robotniks do you give it?
@@one_with_kevrything9825 I give it 666 Shadow the Hedgehogs
The 1979 movie is great. It is on Tubi
Yea, kinda pathetic that THAT movie is over forty years old and remains generally overlooked, while this NEW version got hyped through the roof before it was even released.
I don't think it was overlooked per se. It just had it's time when it came out in the 70s. Whereas this just came out. And this is more of an hommage to the original than the 70s version. Although Eggers definitely brings his own take to the look and feel of this one as well. I've actually also heard a lot of people talking about the Werner Herzog version recently probably also because it's free on Tubi. So a lot of people have been watching that one recently & talking about it. Which is also great.
No one is talking about Shadow of the Vampire either which is also quite good but I wouldn't even say that is being overlooked. But that's another good one if you haven't seen it. It's about the making of Nosferatu and also has Willem Dafoe in it who plays Max Schreck playing Nosferatu. lol
@@VampX13 I've found THAT movie to be pretty obscure generally speaking (outside of aficianados and critics). Its pretty acclaimed, but not popularly known. It probably has been catching some of the publicity generated by this NEW version of late though, I don't doubt that.
Same here- just seen it with my nieces and we all think it was great, but... something was missing. Or something was overdone? Can't really pin point what. Visually its stunning. Acting was first class. Very true to source material. Why do I feel like that😭
It was that the Hardings took too much of the focus of the movie because I didn't care about them at all, I just thought why not more scenes with Thomas and Ellen ? Thank you for your review !
I think it's the ending that doesn't land as powerfully as it could have. You have a well-done payoff with Friedrich Harding, as earlier in the film it's established he's passionate about his wife, and his ending seems to be a desperate act of necrophilia. When Nicholas Hoult discovers his dead wife in the arms of a monster, he just sheds a couple of tears, and we pan to Dafoe's character, who gives us some exposition about her sacrifice. Nicholas Hoult survived The Count's castle prison, washed up on a river bank, had to will his way back to save his wife, and in the end failed. At her deathbed, he just cries a little? He should have lost his shit and cursed the world, something more dramatic, that would have made her sacrifice resonate more.
I'm feeling this. Yeah there was some catharsis for me missing and I think that might have been it. In general I feel like Thomas' character never gets as much to play with emotionally as some of the other characters. And it is a shame because I do think we could connect with him a lot more in this. I mean he is doing everything here in service of his wife, or so he claims. I really enjoyed the scene where Ellen reveals her connection to Nosferatu and blames herself for everything and Thomas chooses to accept Ellen, absolving her of sin at least in his eyes and telling her he loves her no matter what. I feel like that is some of the strongest stuff we get from both of these characters, emotionally speaking.
God I would LOVE to see this in the theater. I had to miss Alien Romulus and I don't want to have to miss this as well.
You missed "Alien: Romulus" because you made the conscious decision to miss it.
Hi Amanda have a great day and love your voice 😍
Eggers has confirmed an extended version of the film is going to be released when the film appears on 4K. It will likely flesh out character moments.
• It never switches between color and B/W; that’s why it’s so smooth.
* In my second viewing it seemed less long than the first time.
• You say between Ellen and Thomas “you didn’t feel as much of a connection there.” Do you mean emotional, romantic connection between them? (In my view *they are not emotionally close* and this is among the most grim parts of the story!)
I mean in terms of their chemistry on screen. It like your view on this being intentional though. That is an interesting thought and does make things a bit more sad. Although Ellen seems very committed to Thomas as he does her, so that plays a bit against them not having chemistry as they seem infatuated with one another on paper. However it could be that they are more into the idea of one another. But then again the conversation they have where Thomas says he accepts Ellen as she is and doesn't care if she has sinned, implies once again that their bond is quite true and earnest. Hmmm. I need to rewatch. lol
Also yes! It's so cool that it wasn't even shot in black and white. They just created that colorless feel naturally with palettes and lighting. Wowzers. I'm not surprised it felt so seamless. Also what a way to save on budget for a project like this and yet use that choice to overall elevate the piece. I really think the way they played with light and palettes here was masterful for creating mood and setting tone. Seriously Eggers is on another level.
Im loving Robert Eggers, I've loved 3/4 of his films. I did not care that much for the Lighthouse, if I'm gonna be honest, if I ever get a copy it will be just because I want to collect Robert Eggers films. I will say it was a beautifully done film. Of the 3 I loved here is how I would rank them.
1) The Northman
2) Nosferatu
3) The Witch
You reaaaally should give Lighthouse another try.
My girlfriend said this is definitely a movie that could use trigger warnings for all the S/A references in it, I could have done without all that. The bigger thing for me was some of the editing, with one scene in particular almost feeling like a grimdark family guy cut away where they are talking about how strange someones behavior was then cut to him naked, rambling and laughing for half a minute before resuming with the previous conversation.
It was the moustache that bothered me, Dracula yes, but not Orlok. Especially if you have in your mind the 1979 Klaus Kinski version. And also a bit too heavy on the possession scenes... Otherwise great film, i would give it a 7.5/10
The sex and violence in Nosferatu reminds me of the TV show Hannibal.....
Would give this a review if I saw the movie I paid to see it sat in my seat for over two hours waiting for a movie to start it never did!!!
What!? That's wild. What happened?
@VampX13 nothing the closing credits came on thought they were opening credits the screen went blank and I left!!!
Eggers best film continues to be the Witch.
Very disapointed by this and the others.
The thing I don’t get is that when a vampire drinks the blood of someone and they die they become a vampire. Ellen should be a vampire
Here's the thing, not all vampire myths work like that. In this case, my interpretation of the film is that the process takes time to set in. I think for example because Thomas had been exposed quite a bit and fed on multiple times but not killed in the process, he would possibly have turned into a vampire. However Ellen's sacrifice ultimately allowed them to defeat Orlok and because of this Thomas would be saved. It seemed like they were alluding to the fact that Thomas was under Orlok's spell somewhat but that if Orlok was defeated he'd be fully free. In some myths destroying the sire reverses or the curse, or if already a vampire, causes their fledglings to burn up or turn to dust along with the one who turned them. I was actually waiting for Anna and her kids to turn into vampires and attack Friedrich went he went to visit their tomb. But nawww.
I also don't think that Orlok ever intended to turn anyone though. He seems like the lone vamp sort. lol
Also in some myths, changing someone into a vampire isn't always guaranteed. Even if you follow all the steps, it doesn't always work. It's more like a roll of a dice. So this could also be that version. Some myths also require an exchange of blood. So that could also be a factor here potentially. There are so many different vampire myths honestly. lol
@ thank you for responding. You make many good points. I believe that Orlok intentions where to make Ellen his wife and a vampire. But as you pointed out his death removed any chance of becoming a vampire would not happen. I still believe that vampires are looking for a mate. In this case you are 100 per cent correct!
Visually great but extremely slow and hard to engage with. For me it was a 5.5/10. Also the mustache wasn’t scary at all 🤦🏻
its because of the hype, and its popular, so you are bias to the hype, you know the movie is not that good yet you have to say its good because its new and everybody is talking about it
You will probably like it a lot more after a second or even third viewing. That is not uncommon, as you, of course, now.
Willam Dafoe brought some much needed adrenaline to the film I thought. And of course I agree with you that the ending felt empty.
6/10. Started decent, quickly lost me.
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@VampX13. Fair enough. I hope you had a happy holiday season.