Im a teacher! I tell the parents ahead of time what supplies will be used communally and allow the option for personal supplies. This whole argument about whether supplies should be shared or not is distracting us from the real problem: kids don't have the resources they need year round, parents don't get paid enough, and teachers are tired of feeling like they gotta ask for handouts all the time. 🤷🏾
OMg thanks! It's honestly a ridiculous argument that can be solved by making the list a bit more specific. Outside of that, if a parent still has a problem I let them go to admin to complain. I don't fool with argumentative parents 😅
I grew up extremely poor, my mom was a single mom and barely spoke English. I had a bestie in elementary school who’s mom would always help my mom with school supplies. She would tell my mom don’t worry about I’ll take the girls(me and my bestie) for shopping for supplies. It bring me to tears thinking back at her kindness. I aspire to be like her mom.
People don't act as if they could go through hard times. Help plz. One year, it may be you that need, so help. This world is sad and thinks of itself. We don't have to be that way. Smh Anyway, I'm glad you had someone who cared for you and helped you and your mother out ❤🎉
A girl in my 6th grade class, where I was new, was poor and didn’t have appropriate shoes for gym class and couldn’t participate. I went home and asked my mom if we could buy her some. We got her an awesome pair of purple high tops and we became close friends. Lots of poverty where I lived, I brought bags of food to my classmates and one of them had to hide that food because her prost mother would’ve stolen it and her siblings were starving. She used to steal onions from peoples garden and eat them with ketchup. So sad.
My mom used to pack two lunches for me EVERY SINGLE DAY. There would always be a kid in the lunchroom who didn’t have lunch money, so I’d offer my extra because my mom packed it for THEM. ❤️ That’s community! I didn’t understand then, but GOD I am grateful for the lesson now.
this is exactly the attitude that makes the world a better place. those kids will remember for the rest of their life the relief & love & full stomach they had because of you & your mom. moments like that not only changes people's lives, but it SAVES their lives too. & those kindness & love will ripple out from them out into the world too. everything done out of love matters.
That guy basically said that because he never got that kind of help when he needed it when he was a kid that other kids also shouldn't get that help from him even if he can afford to help. That's some wild logic.
Right? You'd think he'd be more empathetic. The 'I suffered as a child, but no one helped, so I will watch other kids suffer even though I am in a position to help' is wild.
literally. there's no way he got no help at all as a child, he is just straight up lying. the most selfish & individualistic people really think they don't benefit from these things but they absolutely do. the ego blinds them & makes excuses so they don't have to think with nuance & empathy.
5:51 the health care workers she doing to much she wish she can get communal workers to help her at the hospital because them people be under staff it the same thing
Wait these parents get NOT sending the supplies with their kids means their kids are the ones using other people supplies they brought in right? 😂😂😂 they are the problem they’re mad at
@@doyou4you Then they are welcome to benefit from the community supplies. My school district has a discreet form you can fill out for supplies, activity fees, instruments for band and orchestra, sports uniforms and probably other stuff I can't think of.
The kids who need the school supplies the most come to school with Jordans and Stanley cups, and bully other kids for not having them. I said what I said.
@@verbalbeauty18no I can totally see this mentality at play. A lot of the young men I see fare skipping on the subway are wearing rare looking high top Nikes or Jordan’s. “Man I aint got money for train fare.” We know, we can see the clown shoes on your feet you used it to pay for.
First Grade Teacher here, chile these supplies are for the YEAR. Most of the parents that complain about every little thing I don’t see them until their child is on the retention list for the next school year. Whatever you can give I’m thankful for it because I’m here to teach the kids and do my absolute best. All I ask is that we work together for the benefit of the CHILD! You may feel whatever you want about me and vice versa but it’s not about the adults it’s about the children.
The government is not using our tax dollars properly. They rake in about 3.2 trillion dollars a year in federal U.S. tax dollars but they can't just provide the nation's children with some school supplies in each of their "federally funded" public schools. They have money for new mac books every year for schools in wealthy areas but not the basic $0.50 products for everyone. It's madness.
I've seen first hand how teachers have to come out of their own pockets for supplies. They're allocated a certain amount from their district and once that's gone that's it for the year.
Irony: refusing to contribute to communal supplies because you don’t want to take care of other peoples children while in turn making other people take care of yours through those communal supplies they contributed. Make it make sense.
Right, and I think it just teaches selfishness. Like I don't care if someone else's kid uses my kid's shite. As long as everyone is learning, and having a good time.
But my mom would buy me specialty things. I was an artistic kid. I was VERY protective of my art supplies but did let people use my items. i needed my pencils SHARP So I brought My eletric sharpener to school and did let other people use it ... And it was stolen a whole ass eletric sharpener. I was pissed. And was a "selfish" person since then. If you didnt bring it/ your parents didnt buy it, its not my problem, i didnt ask for hand outs or steal pencils everyday, i brought my stuff that my mom and dad bought for ME not you And we wernt rich. We lived in a trailer park.
@@vvitch-mist20 it's stupid to expect The Rabble to be of intellectual comparability to us Betters. The school system was designed to make factory workers, not society members. It's better when people know their place.
Everyone benefits from an educated society. We owned a house before we had our child and I did not bat an eye at paying into the school with my taxes. At some point those kids will be the next generation of doctors, nurses, etc.. I don't understand the hate some folks have for education.
@@edenstewart6734 Exactly. My husband and I never plan to have kids, but we vote for every school levy, are happy to pay taxes to our school district, and donate where we can. We know what it was like to be the kids without and try our best to support those growing up in a situation similar to ours.
"we don't got a village no more" *Refuses to buy basic supplies for their own child and is furious at the idea of having to share anything with anyone else*
Parents will spend $100 on a single pair of shoes for their kid or a hairstyle for their kid, that will last weeks/months. But those same parents won't spend $100 for the supplies necessary for a year of their child's education?? 🤦🏾♀️
That’s people for ya -- which is why communism doesn’t work -- some people do all the work and some are mad responsible … ONLY TO BE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF BY THOSE WHO DONT CONTRIBUTE OR DO ANYTHING.
I'm not leeching off of anyone. I have 3 kids and I provide the requested supplies plus extra for those who can't or won't. Just making an observation 🤷🏾♀️
I was the kid who used the communal supplies all day everyday. The only ones who suffer from the lack of supplies are the kids. Whether their parents couldn’t provide for them, or they could and chose not to, they still deserve those supplies.
I never once used the communal things We bought the stuff on the list and i had my own stiff and my mom would buy me specialty things. I was an artistic kid. I was VERY protective of my art supplies but did let people use my items. i needed my pencils SHARP So I brought My eletric sharpener i got for my birthday to school and did let other people use it ... And it was stolen a whole ass eletric sharpener. I was pissed. And was a "selfish" person since then. If you didnt bring it/ your parents didnt buy it, its not my problem, i didnt ask for hand outs or steal pencils everyday, i brought my stuff that my mom and dad bought for ME not you And we wernt rich we lived in a trailer park
@@typicalairhead6846 i am if you dont steal from me, and you must be the one mooching weed and drinks off people at parties 🤣 almost as if i had an expérience in my past that makes me not as giving to strangers 😮 shocker
@@typicalairhead6846 and did you just choose to disregard that i said we bought the communal things on top of my specialty items? I dont HAVE to share my special items especially if ive been stolen from in the past.
People don't vote in their local elections then complain when shit like this happens. How about folks pay attention to the budget cuts that are hitting their schools while police forces get raises 🙄🙄🙄
The woman in the 39 minute section talking about supporting kids sounds like a super sweetheart amd I wish all parents were like this. Sadly, so many are not
I want to know where these raises for police are? I work at a police department and it took us 10 years to get back the pay cut we took in 2012… TEN YEARS!!!!!!!!
I wonder how angry these anti- communal supplies parents will be if the teacher tells that kid their stuff can be kept separate and that kids loses or breaks their school supplies and the teacher doesn't let them take from the communal ones and their kid is just left out. Then they'll be complaining about how the teacher isn't sharing and how horrible it is.
I remember my mom getting stressed and frustrated when I came home telling her I need pencils or paper or whatever it was, and I need it now because I kept forgetting to tell her. Communal supplies eliminates that as well as many other situations.
Yeah it takes the burden of providing for your kid and it gives it to another person. THE PROBLEM DOESNT GO AWAY it just gets transferred to the people who were responsible enough to contribute and prioritize their child’s education. Your mom did not prioritize your education and therefore it stressed her out to provide you the bare minimum. People like her would probably take advantage of the communal system and not provide anything just so SOMEONE ELSE has to carry the burden and provide for HER CHILD.
@@xandercrew6088you are misreading the comment. The mom was not stressed out because she had to provide school supplies for her kid. She was stressed because there was inadequate notice and she had to rush and get stuff the night before. With a communal supplies approach, the mom could have got a list of all the necessary supplies and sent them in at the beginning of the year. Then the teacher would give the kid the supplies as needed. She would still be providing the supplies for her child. Just in a more organized system. No more “oh Mom I need a set of markers for tomorrow” at 8pm after the store is closed.
My problem is why are teachers and parents paying for community supplies? Why not the school or the government. I swear America is so weird. One of the wealthiest countries but won't pay for free health care or community school supplies. Parents are already struggling and for some families every dollar counts.
@radhiadeedou8286 a lot of countries, in the uk the school provides everything. You can have your own pencil case with your own supplies which most people do but classrooms have glues, scissors, pens, pencils, excersise books, etc. It's baffling to me how Americans pay taxes but their students don't get essential supplies.
@@radhiadeedou8286a lot of european countries do it. In Switzerland for instance the only thing kids bring to school is their backpack, clothes to change to when they have physical education and the swimm clothes for swimm lessons ... everything else from books to the pencils is provided by the school.
THIS IS FACTS!!! You’ve said it perfectly. This is such a wild concept to me. So many people in USA are anti-abortion but once the babies are born and growing up they don't care if they're well looked after. Teachers and parents shouldn't have to buy essential school supplies, the schools/government should provide these!
As a child-free person, I’m sick of paying for other peoples’ children to go to school. The amount of school taxes I pay is NUTS, particularly as I don’t have and will never have children. Y’all with children already get tax breaks; now you want additional breaks by having other people pay for your kid’s school supplies? Listen, y’all wanted children and I support that. Now y’all take care of them and stop expecting others to.
I already bought extras for my kids class... definitely buying more now and asking his teacher this week if she needs anything else. Some of these parents are so selfish... their kids will be the ones that need the communal supplies the most
literally that woman saying she’s gonna send her kid w one pencil one pen etc., just has me thinking that she’s acting like the parents she’s trying to criticize and not give supplies to. if you think a kid is gonna survive in school with only two writing utensils, you were either the most responsible kid ever or the most selfish lol. because kids give out their supplies to those who ask even if they never get it back, especially pencils.
All I'm hearing is a lot of complaining and self-centeredness. Bring back gratitude and kindness. School "supplies" run between 40 and 100 dollars for the whole year. Put that money down and be thankful that is all it cost to make sure the teacher has what they need to educate your kids for the year.
Watching this discussion from Sweden makes my heart hurt. People who have money don’t want to share with those that are struggling. And they’re fighting over CRAYOLA!? This is sad on every level.
Ja som en förskolelärare så blir jag så ledsen. Även om kommunen ibland kan bli lite bitig när man hela tiden beställer nya limstift då det går åt mycket lim när små barn ska pyssla 😂 men tänk att behöva be förädlar om saker, man får inte ens ta emot saker från föräldrar då allt måste ha kvitto. Så även om vi har sjukt många föräldrar som vill ge oss massa leksaker deras barn har växt ur eller likande så får vi inte ta emot dem. Vilket också är synd, då mycket fint går förlorat som vi skulle kunna använda och njuta av.
As an American, I'm embarrassed by this whole conversation. I grew up in public schools. Shared with my classmates and benefited from their resources. We all went on to live good lives. This current generation of selfishness among the parents is alarming. #80sKid
When I was in school, we all had custom pencil boxes (from the teacher) and we put our own supplies in it. She had some extra supplies on reserve incase someone ran out of something mid-assignment, but then you got a note sent home asking for your parents to refill whatever item was missing in your own personal box.
That’s how our classroom was ran, too. Primary students sit in the same room for most of the day, so idk why they can’t keep pencil boxes under their desk.
I definitely think things are a little different now. Back in the day, parents were more involved. I remember going to parent teacher conference, and it was packed. Now, I go to my kids parent teacher conference, and I can count the parents there. What we used to do doesn't really work now
The lady in the pink is treating the school like they're her "baby daddy." Ma'am, that's not even logical to send your child out into the world like this. 1 pencil!?
@@whyme7862 because she's operating with a scarcity mentality. It's not about whether or not she is a baby mama. It's about the logic that she is presenting.
I get keeping nicer supplies at home. But how embarrassing for that kid to have to then take from other children now because his mother is incapable of buying the cheaper stuff to go to school with lol
Charging for play dates is something I never in life heard of until someone on UA-cam shared I believe it was a TikTok about a mom complaining that the parent of her child’s friend wanted money for the play date! And why? Because if they were gonna host a child they need money for snacks the child eats and whatnot. It was crazy.
That’s WILD. Especially if you invite someone somewhere. I’ve only heard of this happening once where the family made the little girl feel bad because her parents didn’t send her with money and she just went without a whole day at the amusement park with nothing. Of course, you SHOULD send your kid with money, but I can’t imagine making a child feel uncomfortable and responsible for that. I’ve also had friends tell me they’ve had friends send them a Venmo request for a percentage of alcohol/snacks when they attend a party. 😳 If you go out to eat and split it, yes, but to invite someone to your party and charge them afterwards is audacious at best. Hilariously enough, the few times I’ve heard of this, the person charging for their party supplies has been quite wealthy…like over $250K per year or more income. I guess they are financially comfortable because they know how to hang onto their money. 😆
That’s kinda what I thought too and they should add a section for optional things for parents to get that could be used to help out other kids if the parent chooses to do that and has extra resources for it.
the fact people are begging for socialism when they can’t even agree on sharing children’s schools supplies shows me y’all don’t really know what you want lol
I live in socialism. Daddy government pays for all the things my kid needs in school. Except water bottles, that I have to buy, if I want my kid to not drink from a plastic cup.
Right? Communal supplies is like the most socialist thing lol. Also I think it’s good to in general teach kids about sharing and being a part of a community. I think that’s so lost these days.
The issue is that the schools are making it a REQUIREMENT to share. If you ask a parent, “Hey, if you could buy a bit extra for those in need, we would appreciate it,” a lot of people will do that. But if you say, “You HAVE TO bring in extra supplies so kids whose parents didn’t buy any can also participate,” that’s when people dig in their heels. The whole crux of the issue is taking away the choice to help, and instead demanding help. And that’s why people hate it.
My only problem is that I heard of some teachers who will take the stuff they asked for, which is fine, but then will also take "excess" personalized or personally picked out stuff that parents bought specifically for their children. That is what is crazy to me. . .if a student brings in all the stuff that was asked of the family and turn them in, then they should 100% be entitled to extra stuff that was bought just for them.
Tbh i also don’t think this would be as much of an issue if parents taught their kids how to value and treat supplies with care. There is no reason for there to be no glue in a glue stick, smashed in markers, broken crayons and color pencils, erasers with holes in them, and bits and pieces of pulled apart mechanical pencils scattered around the room. Im so glad I was a kid who liked to keep school supplies nice and went to a school where most students were gentle with each others personal supplies and belongings that most of us didn’t mind sharing
When did communal supplies start? I just totally don’t remember this as a child. I remember being annoyed that my mom only bought me the cheapest items and I saw my peers with “the good stuff”. Now I homeschool. I guess it’s all communal supplies 😂
This has always been a thing it’s just now being called what it’s actually is. When we were kids it was “ I’ll hold these till the end of year” we never got our stuff back because they passed it out throughout the entire year
This was not a thing when I was a kid. Each parent bought school supplies for their children. I remember liking a friend's folder & trading something that I had & I didn't like for it. Communal supplies were not a thing during my childhood.
The lady in the pink…..her position on this matter….is concerning. She is presenting as a nurse (the scrubs and tag). This is the point of view from a person in CARE OF OTHERS!! Oh my gosh. Truly terrible.
Yea it was wild, especially since she was unaware of why supplies would be needed in a classroom. In my head, I was like projects, writing, penmanship, creative arts, testing, annotation, problem solving, etc. You would think she would value education since it takes a lot of training and education to work as a medical professional.
Maybe because she works hard ? She works long hrs and maybe she doesn’t have only one kid and it’s expensive for her ? Maybe she is single ? She said she would buy stuff for her kid ! Not others
16:04 Oof! As a former teacher, glue sticks, pencils, and paper was the ONE thing kids would go through quick. And someone pray because when a student got mad and decided to take out the frustration on school supplies....man.
Wait. What happened to BOXES I had a little box with my name on it and we had all of our supplies in there and were expected to keep everything in there. Did we stop using boxes?
Tbh… it seems like this really is an issue of the school board and government. I have never been asked to share my school supplies. I also never ran out, we weren’t rich but my grandma bought supplies year round in bulk (for example she would see in the paper that crayola markers were a dollar for the pack and she would by 5-10 to put down for the years to come) so I always had. The only thing I ran out of was pencils because I lent them out to friends and forgot to ask for them back. The only time we as a class shared supplies was for art, and by shared I mean the teacher would bring out the supplies that the school paid for and the class would share. Or for group projects the teachers would put out baskets of supplies for people to use. Never came out of my grandmas pockets. So clearly the school is being neglectful in this situation. My grandma would just tell me every now and then, check your bag and if you need something get it out of the closet.
This is just a sad situation that we are at a place in society where adults are arguing about supplying children ( rather they are yours our not) with what they need to be successful students.
when people are responsible for their own kids, they don't appreciate irresponsible parents making their kids other people's problem...kids are very expensive, one of the many reasons i chose not to have them, but people have kids they can't afford. it's unfair to expect responsible people to pick up that slack. i understand it isn't the kids' fault, but tolerating this encourages people to have kids they can't afford.
@amandak.4246 my dude, irresponsible parents will have kids whether or not there are communal school supplies. The people you are imagining are unlikely to care enough about their kids not having supplies that it would trigger a change in their attitude. All you do is punish the kids, and not just the ones with "irresponsible parents", but the ones in situations where the parents actually cannot provide despite their best efforts.
There wasn’t communal supplies when I was a kid but they did ask everyone to bring a box of tissues for the classroom. But honestly these people melting down over shared school supplies are the types that really shouldn’t have had kids.
I don't remember ever having anything communal that I had to bring to school when I was a kid. But I do remember asking if I could borrow a pencil, piece of paper, or eraser and so did a lot of other kids. We would borrow from each other. I think that is the purpose of these communal supplies so that all kids will have everything at their disposal. Especially when kids are known to lose or damage things.
why are they acting like crayons and notebooks aren't cents? if you stick to the basics, it shouldn't be more than $50. I don't want these moms complaining about the cost of school supplies to have a Stanley's...
fr all these moms acting like their kids deserve ticonderogas and crayola brand everything like okaaaay kids ain’t gonna know the difference! and if they do… give them their own little bag of stuff to take into school separate from communal supplies 🤷 kids with nothin are gonna be happy with crazy art crayons anyways lololol
I just hate when teachers speak like this is universal and every school operates the same. For example with the glue sticks that was given were definitely all put together where students would just grab whatever. Lots of times glue sticks and other stuff were missing, thrown around the room or just empty or dried out in the container. The teacher definitely doesn’t pass it out individually. I was a student who always had my own supplies all that sharing is why kids always get sick.
I’m a teacher. In my school all the supplies are provided for the students. I also purchase extra supplies for my classroom during the Summer when stores have them for 25 or 50 cents. This is a good idea for parents that have to purchase supplies. Buy them early in the Summer when they are cheap. Focus on what your child is learning and NOT supplies. It’s what they learn and not what they color or glue with.
The problem my family ran into was the extra supplies (that I never ended up actually needing) being listed as a requirement, when my parents couldn’t afford to buy supplies for the whole classroom, just for me. I think it’s great when parents who can buy extra do, but when my parents couldn’t my teachers would badger them. (For clarification my parents would get me all the supplies on the list but only extra tissue boxes and that was it). I think some people forget public school has poor kids too.
I still have a trauma memory from kinder, I went to a nun school and they did that communal basket thing. I had my favorite scissors they were red, clear with glittery, I loved seeing throw them. One day they gave my scissors to another kid, I was trying to get them back and he broke them in front of me on purpose. I'm 33 now I haven't recovered fully. 😂
I feel bad for the kids who hear the adults declaring they are not paying for school supplies at home, then showing up to school empty handed while their peers have the supplies their parents got for them. 😔
My issue with this whole debate is that it wrongfully puts the burden of "communal" supplies on the parents instead of the state and, insidiously, NO ONE asked for the parents' imput before it was done. And now parents are shamed and low key bullied over not wanting to "share" with children when in fact they just don't want to subsidize a system that should be providing these supplies with the taxes that they've already paid. If parents don't get a say in the school budget and how they allocate funds then schools shouldn't demand that they are held accountable for their shortcomings.
Someone used to steal my stuff in elementary, I told my mom thinking he would get in trouble cause I was fed up. Instead my mom made him a pencil box ( crayons,colored pencils, pencils, eraser,etc). He stoped stealing cause now he had his own, his family couldn’t afford much. We weren’t close but I started to just give him thing I didn’t want or need if I had extra it went to him first then anyone else
1. I think more pressure needs to applied to the state representatives, school boards, and the government to distribute more funding for school supplies. Kids need to have the supplies they need to learn/get an education. This is not the kids' responsibility or fault. Periodt. 2. Community is built by the people. Pitch in if you can and are able to buy a *little* extra. The world needs kindness more than ever. Parents and teachers don't need to be fighting amongst themselves about this issue. Let's direct that energy and time directly to the local and state government and the school board. 3. If there's a communal bin for supplies, I believe that should be communicated upfront. Say what's on the student supply list and what's on the communal supply list. Some kids love buying themed school supplies and it's a form of self expression with the added benefit that it gets them excited to learn. I can see a kid feeling sad or mad if they just didn't get to use things they picked out or see it being broken. If it's communicated upfront, then parents can provide the more themed things at home as an option.
I'm not a parent or a teacher. Im a former student and I was mad pissed when my teacher took all my supplies away from me only to give it to some other kid while I got a notebook that I did not pick out from the store. I still harbour hatred from that, so I'm with the parents on this one.
Thats the issue: people don't understand that no one is taking away your the hot wheels pencil case. No one is taking EVERYTHING the kid brings. It's pencils, glue sticks, markers, crayons.
@@nigeriansista Well. If the op story is true. What happen is, the teacher took everything away from them and than handed them random stuff. They didn't get to enjoy using the stuff they shop at a store with their parents to pick out. Which could of been a real bonding moment between them and their parents for all we know. Which this is bad. First off. It doesn't teach them the value of sharing, nor caring for others. For true kind heartness, comes out of a willingness to do it yourself. Not being force to do it. If your force to do something, you likely going to make them end up resenting it or not wanting to do it. Which is the last thing you want, if you want people to learn how to share. Getting them to do it willingly, is the best choice. For then they will share on their own in the future. Which is best done by showing the benefits of sharing. Like how happy it makes someone else, they get to join on the art project. That and teach the child who benefits from sharing, to treat the item they are being given, like it was their own personal item. So they will take good care of it. That way both children learn a good lesson, while also being able to enjoy the fun school art project. Which can lead to them returning the favor later as adults. By donating supplies to a local school. While to you and i, it might be clear why sharing is good. To young children, that might not be the case. Given they are still learning. Where you need to clearly explain things, to have them properly understand why something is good. While the op story, if it is true. It a case of bad teaching. For it failed to teach why sharing is good.
These clips truly highlights those who have been taught to share and those who have not. Community based supplies not only provides necessities for the children, but also teach your children the value of sharing and caring for others. Its a win win. You bring more into your life with an open hand than with a closed fist.
Sharing because you want to is different from having your things taken and redistributed-- let's not throw glitter on it and call it something different. A community closet that is mandatory to be supplied is not the same as parents/students bringing in extra out of their own free will to make sure everyone is covered. I can see the issue from both sides; yes, no child should have to go without. Also yes, strangers shouldn't be expected to subsidize poor parenting and enable them to keep not caring about their kid's needs.
As a teacher, your child needs five notebooks for the 5 content areas, (reading, writing, math, science, and social studies) you only got one notebook back at the end of the year, because your child probably threw the other ones away because I didn’t want to bring it home. You have to buy dry erase markers because I have a teacher have already bought dry erase board with my own money that the students use daily to practice handwriting or math skills so we don’t have to waste paper. You have to buy all these folders because we try to help the students stay organized. You have 3+ folders because you have one for unfinished work, one for reading passages and anchor chart worksheets, and you have another one for them to take back-and-forth from home to school to make sure that you see their papers. Your kid needs 24+ pencils because throughout the day they leave them on the floor, they peel off the erasers or sometimes they literally just break them in half for no reason. I have found so many pencils just laying on the floor broken in half because the kids do not care. Then when you buy the cheap stuff, they never sharpen and crayons break so easily. As responsible as you think your child is, they are not. So we keep it in the classroom to make sure they are not wasting and they are prepared for class and not wasting valuable instructional time. We’re asking you every week on our newsletter you don’t read for more supplies. And you wonder why we need multiple boxes of crayons is because again they lose them. It’s the third week of school and I already have 24 “lost” crayons. I have found on the floor because of these students dropping them and not picking them up.
Teacher here! There is always supplies left over from the year before, that parents do not want back. I give that extra supplies to students with no supplies. There are always 1-2 parents who will buy extra or donate supplies to the class. The only communal supplies in my classroom is the hand sanitizer, baby wipes, clorox wipes, lysol spray, eraser toppers and index cards. I also have glue, pencils, and scissors that I've purchased and parents donated that is also communal supplies. I understand why parents do not want to share their supplies with others. I do also agree that the focus needs to shift to how the kids are doing in school and what we can do as a community to help all students improve.
You sound like a great teacher! You shouldn't have to do this, though. Do you have a union? Are they fighting to stop forcing teachers to pay for these things?
Everyone is getting emotional and rude about other issues. The true issue is indeed that the government should be supplying these communal needs. We paid into them and they aren't being put to good use. Calling people assholes and such is not solving the problem. Its in fact worsening it
I like how these parents call other parents awful for not giving their kids supplies, and then do the same thing to their own kids but attempt to justify it lmao
In my country, these communal supplies don't exist in our schools. Each kid bring its own supplies et the parents keep at home the rest of them. In the school that I went to, a few kids didn't have the needed supplies to study. The teachers didn't have extras. The kids that had extra supplies ended up lending (and never got back) the pens, pencils etc.. I think these communal supplies avoid all of the sadness, frustration for the kids and the teachers. And that is the important point. I would not care of about buying extras glue stick ou pens, if needed for everybody to be in the best condition to study.
I’m a teacher in Canada and I think it’s so wild that this is a thing that happens in the states? Our school funding is definitely decreasing, but there were always school-funded communal supplies in my elementary classrooms growing up
I grew up in the U.S., and this is wild to me, too! We never had to do this back in the day. School funding has been steadily going up, but I think schools take advantage of generous teachers by forcing them to buy supplies. Not enough people are standing up against this, so it's getting worse.
When I was in school there was no community supplies, everyone used their own and we actually had homework and we actually used the supplies are parents bought!!! I don’t understand what is going on in 2024🤦🏾♀️
It may sound harsh but if you keep providing for someone who refuses to even try to provide for themselves (or in this case their children) they will eventually come to expect it and after a while it becomes a duty then a burden. Why should I constantly be expected to pay for someone else's responsibility? At that point why should I follow the rules and be the supplier when I can literally just take advantage like every other person is doing? I can save money AND not have to stress about it that way.
I must be old because I don't remember having communal supplies when I was a kid. My parents bought our school supplies for the year when they were on sale, and we just replenished our supplies at home when we ran out. When did the communal supplies start? I homeschool my kids, so I buy all our own supplies, and I haven't dealt with this.
As somebody who grew up with little to nothing I wouldn't share none of my school supplies as a child. Crayola is EXPENSIVE and I took care of each crayon like they were my last while other kids were breaking them on purporse or mashing them into the paper. Taking the good markers and smashing them into the handle so nobody could use them. Running down the entire glue stick then asking to use yours and ruining it. Sharpening down colored pencils for the fun of it. Stabbing the good eraser with a pencil. I'm ok with not sharing or leaving the good stuff at home. Supplies again are expensive and not even child is raised to take take of stuff and why should I keep buying #2 pencils when bad a$$ Yevonte keeps snapping the entire shared box or not even giving them back. Bloop.
this is on your teacher then. they should have taught the class how to care for the supplies and if they still couldn’t take care of them, a note should have been sent home and that kid would only be getting crazy art lol edit: i just wanna ask bc it’s been driving me crazy. does a crayon stop working just bc it was snapped in half? does a pencil stop working bc the lead snap. you should expect a child to break a few things while learning how to use them right
@@shelbydanbroken supplies are harder to use, yes, especially if they have even slight issues with motor skills. As far as teaching kids how to not be destructive little monsters, holy shit, now you’re parenting dozens of kids lol. Teachers did not really sign up for that, it’s supposed to be learning-focused.
I went to school with plain folders and Rose Art crayons because that was what my parents could afford. Kristen's parents sent her with Lisa Frank and Crayola. Would it have been fair to Kristen that her things were taken and handed to me because her stuff was nicer? I don't think so. And that's a huge part of the problem parents are having; they're getting their kids things special to them, to their personalities and preferences-- and then the teachers are taking it all and handing it out at random-- and when you're an elementary school kid, it absolutely DOES MATTER to your little heart that your special favorite folder or notebook is gone. It hurts when you had something special and then it's gone to someone else that doesn't care about it.
I never wanted to share my crayons because I would ALWAYS break them no matter how careful I was. I used my broken crayons because I did not want to break other people's crayons.
If you have 25 children in a class I can understand every parent buying for the communal supplies but asking for ten of this and ten of that is ridiculous.
I homeschool and my kids do not go through ten of anything in a year. If they break their crayons-they get to color with broken crayons. It's called accountability and consequences.
I bet they are needing way more supplies than usual because some children aren’t good with taking care of supplies. It only takes 1 child that doesn’t care about keeping things nice to ruin all of the supplies within a short period time, when usually that child would only destroy his or her own things.
I think it's absolutely ridiculous that the school doesn't provide basic necessities that a teacher needs, like dry erase markers. It's absurd that either parents or the teachers themselves are expected to buy those. That's the real problem here. It's exactly the same as the tipping situation, which you mentioned and I think that's a perfect comparison. It's insane that restaurants are allowed to pay their staff under minimum wage and expects the customer to subsidize that. That shouldn't be happening.
I think you hit the nail on the head very early... "...if you have the resources..." alot of people really don't right now and I think that is where the problem is.
No parent should be responsible for providing for children other than their own. If they want to be nice and send extra for others, so be it. Forcing anyone to do anything is never going to end well.
All I know is…. If I have to go up to the school because the kids that don’t have their stuff bullied my lil cousin out of all the stuff we sent and stop her from using it. It gon be some problems. The main ppl who don’t contribute feel super entitled.
As someone from the UK, I was not aware this was an issue. I’m pretty sure most, if not all schools, passed out fresh school supplies yearly. When you hit secondary school, you had to bring your own pencil case but if you didn’t have it the teachers definitely had extra. I’m shocked there isn’t an allocated fund for teaching supplies
I remember I was that student “disrupting class” by asking other students for pencils pens highlighters. Accidentally stealing them because I went to my next class with their pen or pencil and then feeling bad if I lost it. I was also was that child who would be picking up all the supplies discarded on the hallway floors when school was over with.
I believe in an educated society. An educated society is better at understanding pressing issues and creating solutions. I buy supplies on my supply list, buy extra, and ask if the teacher needs anything because educated people make a better society for all.
Bless your heart. The nice thing is you are welcome to teach your own kids at home or send them to a private school. No reason to be hateful to someone you don't even know.
I'm homeschooling this year, but I'm still on the lookout for supply requests from our local schools and neighbors. I can afford $20-$30 to help my community. The kids are my kid's friends. We also were given 30 notebooks from another homeschooler who's family bought them too many...we won't use more than 6, so we can pass on the rest. I grew up in poverty. We didn't have enough food. We wore clothes that were too tight or too big. We couldn't afford school supplies. I will absolutely help where I can, because I've been there. It takes a village, and we became one.
I am all for communal supplies like Kleenex, glue sticks, pencils, dry erase markers (would prefer if the teacher would just ask for $30 upfront and buy supplies as needed) and i have no problem picking up more stuff throughout the year so they don't have to store all this stuff all year. The past few years that I've had kids in school, I always message the teachers and ask throughout the year to see how they are doing on supplies and will pick up anything needed from a Sam's club on the way home from work or order it off Amazon. BUT when it comes to things like crayons, markers, scissors, folders ect, THOSE things are for my kids. I have no problem buying extra. Now this year i am looking at using the same supplies they used last year that I can. I shouldn't have to buy a new pair of scissors. If the crayons aren't broken, why do i need new ones? I can suppy new pencils for our entire school for the next 3years with all the pencils they have sent them home.
Some of these folks are so kind and open hearted that it makes me have faith in the world. The other loud and self serving ones make me sad. We homeschool but if we didn’t I would bless the class with as much supplies extra as possible.
I had to be responsible for all my supplies, books etc for the whole year we had lockers to keep our things in with our own locks, so if you were unprepared you got an F in class for not being prepared they held us accountable so the next time I bet you had your stuff!!!!😂😂😂
I'm stunned that this is even an issue. Like did everyone go to private school or something, or did they just forget how to share??? Idk about y'all but when I was in school we always shared and like no one would ever try to fight about a school supply list. Complain? Sure. Never be like "I'm not doing it"
i don't have any memory of sharing in school. we all had our own supplies, in little pencil cases. i do think parents were asked to contribute boxes of tissues though. it was only the irresponsible loser kids in later grades that constantly destroyed or lost mechanical pencils and would mooch off of others...
I remember when I lived with my half sister and her 8 year old daughter came home crying because she was the only one who didn’t have money to buy lemonade at lunch for a school fundraiser. However my half sister said that if she was a teacher she would have paid for her student’s lemonade but I told her it’s not the teachers responsibility to pay for her students food because they can barely afford to survive themselves. Meanwhile my half sister was able to save enough money to go to Disney with my two nieces and paid for her second crack addicted baby daddy just to show off on social media 😂🤦🏽♀️
Maybe they should make it a tax write off, like you can file it under your taxes that you spent more for communal supplies? Would give some people an incentive, like what charity donations do for businesses, because it is technically charity.
I'm old. I went to elementary school in the 80s. When did this become a thing? I remember everyone bringing and using their own supplies. And if you didn't, the teacher would give you Xerox paper or that green paper with the lines....
Hi ! I think the first lady made a few valid points : there are some parents who won't buy any supplies because they know that the teacher will not have a choice and will allow their children to use school supplies bought by the " responsable " parents . I'm from France and everyone has his/ her own pensil case + other supplies that must be tagged with a name . Textbooks and notebooks are provided by the school as they are included in annual registration fees.
Thank youuuu, it shouldn’t be the parents or the teacher, this is a problem with school funding and budgeting. Nobody either parent or teacher should pay for irresponsible parents.
"You're buying things for your kid not other kids... Communal supplies aren't shared with other kids." But also "if your kid doesn't have a thing, they will get it out of the communal supplies." LOL
This is so sad to me how people don't realize children are our future leaders, and we all need to be a village to set them up for success. I was one of those children where my mother was terminally ill and couldn't afford even food I'm glad for my teacher Mrs. Barnes who treated me with so much respect and never let anyone in class notice I had nothing she supplied everything to me privately also she was the only person that hugged me when my mother passed that year. That stuck with me my whole life.
This is why America is cooked as a society For some odd reason everyone believes they got it out the mud while benefiting from social programs and government aid/support What happened to it takes a village to raise a kid? And its not solely about money... don't have the money to help with supplies, help with your time.
If you can afford to buy the supplies but refuse to send them to school so your child has everything they need to learn, you should just home school your kids.
I've never heard of this before till some post on Reddit I saw few days ago. I'm not from America. When I was in school everyone had their own supplies. If someone forgot crayons or glue, kids would just share. Most kids always had crayons, glue, construction paper, plasteline on them all the time, so we wouldn't have to bother about forgetting something. If teacher required something other than that, usually sewing stuff, we would wright it down, parents were supposed to keep tabs on what's going on at school. Some of these arguments in this video are wild. Like that lady claiming you wouldn't feed a child, if you're not willing to buy communal? Girl, get real, those aren't the same thing. Personally, I wouldn't mind buying some extra stuff within reason.
Maybe the middle ground is that parents kindly supply one back up set of supplies for the classroom and one that is your own child’s personal supplies. That way those kids learn to value and look after personal things, and then no kids go without, including your own kid if they run out of their personal things 😌
So basically those who are complaining about buying communal school supplies clearly grew up poor and/or probably currently poor. Which means your child will need the community at some point. I don't even have kids and I have donated school supplies to different school programs.
I only have one child. And she gets two sets of school supplies. One set for the “communal supplies” which I still get the good name-brand and a set she helps me buy. She's going into second grade and I remember how much school supplies and shopping for them with my mom made me happy and excited for the school year and I want her to experience that as well. I also jump on Amazon and buy classroom sets (Crayola has them for crayons and markers) and I buy extra scissors and I ask for a wish list from her teachers. I'm blessed to be in the situation to do this because I only have one, but I can see where families with multiple children can't. That's okay we can. Oh! And I also ask the teacher at winter break if they need anything more and try to resupply what’s needed then as well.
When I become a parent, I'll buy off-brand stuff for the communal bin. It was good enough for me as a kid. My mom also taught me to be responsible for my stuff and not trash other people's things. Certain things should be communal, but kids should still be able to have personalized things that they don't need to share. I'll do my best, but please don't get mad if it's not brand name stuff. Some of us can't afford brand name items.
There's a certain political party in the US that keeps reducing the budget for public education year over year, so if you want the school/government to provide everything, then you need to get real comfortable paying more taxes.
weirdly, i am fine with paying higher taxes to pay for all this but not fine with being required to buy supplies for students whose parents aren't contributing. i guess like how i am okay with eating meat but don't wanna see the butchering. like, keep some stuff removed from us, i guess
It's hard to believe just how selfish many people are these days. Village? Community? Future? Apparently, these concepts are fading fast. I went to elementary school in the '80s, and while the world didn't have the internet, social media apps, and cell phones, but we sure were a whole heck of a lot more connected. Teaching children the importance of "pitching in" or "sharing" is important so that they actually "experience" elementary school together... for memories that will last a lifetime. We gotta do better than this. #Sheesh
This is weird half of the people are talking bout redistribution of ALL supplies and half are talking about voluntary communal supplies. If it voluntary y’all being ridiculous. If it’s forces I ain’t doing it
Symone said, "Let's go, round 2!" 😂 I'm not one for being pressured into communal supplies. This was not a thing when I went to school, and I appreciate what my mother bought for me. I would buy what my hypothetical child needs and buy some extra for students that need it. Basically, giving should be optional, not compulsion.
But if everyone felt like you, that it should be optional to contribute, then hypothetically there could be a scenario where no one contributes, and all kids go without. That's why it's compulsory because if it wasn't, there's no way to ensure participation from everyone, a scenario in which the costs are distributed evenly.
@@amandak.4246 Some people have the impulse to donate to charity, but certainly all do not. I don't think it's a reliable method to rely on the goodwill of some people bringing enough for everyone. I also do not believe that if a child has a special notebook or pen, that they should be forced to donate that to the communal pool. I mean ultimately, the schools should be paying for supplies, and the fact that they are offloading this cost to teachers, parents, and students, shows that the system itself is dysfunctional
Symoneeee yes parents are charging for play dates. I read it on Reddit- this lady sent another parent an invoice after a play date and there were things like “ 2 juice boxes, 1 piece of CHALK, 3 TISSUES” I said oh hellllll nahhhhhh
Indeed, it appears that our society has become increasingly focused on hustle culture, which may have impacted our ability to engage in meaningful social interactions.
@@ChocoBeauty8 I agree it’s really sad. At that point why even invite the child over or try to grow a relationship with another family if you’re gonna act that way? I refuse to normalize this
School shopping for the year used to cost my parents about 1,500 dollars just for clothes, school supplies I had to pay for my own lunch that’s another expense, sports programs another cost, field trips all this crap cost so I get it and let’s not forget paying extra taxes for that school district I lived in!!! My parents paid a pretty penny for me to have a good education so my school would have never pulled that crap!!!!
@TomikaKelly no it isn't! My kids wear hand me downs and thrifted items. We spend a couple hundred per year on clothes tops. This is entirely out of touch.
Im a teacher! I tell the parents ahead of time what supplies will be used communally and allow the option for personal supplies. This whole argument about whether supplies should be shared or not is distracting us from the real problem: kids don't have the resources they need year round, parents don't get paid enough, and teachers are tired of feeling like they gotta ask for handouts all the time. 🤷🏾
symone oughtta pin this comment tbh
@@BOOcketMan It's done ✔
OMg thanks! It's honestly a ridiculous argument that can be solved by making the list a bit more specific. Outside of that, if a parent still has a problem I let them go to admin to complain. I don't fool with argumentative parents 😅
Do you have a teacher Amazon store front or wish list? Would love to support an educator !
Someone else asked and I wanna underscore it, do you have a wishlist or anything we can do to help your class or school?
I grew up extremely poor, my mom was a single mom and barely spoke English. I had a bestie in elementary school who’s mom would always help my mom with school supplies. She would tell my mom don’t worry about I’ll take the girls(me and my bestie) for shopping for supplies. It bring me to tears thinking back at her kindness. I aspire to be like her mom.
I aspire to be a mother like that as well! Spread kindness ❤❤❤
People don't act as if they could go through hard times. Help plz. One year, it may be you that need, so help. This world is sad and thinks of itself. We don't have to be that way. Smh
Anyway, I'm glad you had someone who cared for you and helped you and your mother out ❤🎉
A girl in my 6th grade class, where I was new, was poor and didn’t have appropriate shoes for gym class and couldn’t participate. I went home and asked my mom if we could buy her some. We got her an awesome pair of purple high tops and we became close friends. Lots of poverty where I lived, I brought bags of food to my classmates and one of them had to hide that food because her prost mother would’ve stolen it and her siblings were starving. She used to steal onions from peoples garden and eat them with ketchup. So sad.
I love kindness and caring. I don't know why people in this age are so against community building.
That’s great. People generally do help out of the kindness of their hearts, but forcing people to is a problem. JMO
My mom used to pack two lunches for me EVERY SINGLE DAY. There would always be a kid in the lunchroom who didn’t have lunch money, so I’d offer my extra because my mom packed it for THEM. ❤️ That’s community! I didn’t understand then, but GOD I am grateful for the lesson now.
That is so special
that is so so so sweet
this is exactly the attitude that makes the world a better place. those kids will remember for the rest of their life the relief & love & full stomach they had because of you & your mom. moments like that not only changes people's lives, but it SAVES their lives too. & those kindness & love will ripple out from them out into the world too.
everything done out of love matters.
Awwww ❤❤
That is really sweet of her and you ❤✨
That guy basically said that because he never got that kind of help when he needed it when he was a kid that other kids also shouldn't get that help from him even if he can afford to help. That's some wild logic.
Right? You'd think he'd be more empathetic. The 'I suffered as a child, but no one helped, so I will watch other kids suffer even though I am in a position to help' is wild.
literally. there's no way he got no help at all as a child, he is just straight up lying. the most selfish & individualistic people really think they don't benefit from these things but they absolutely do. the ego blinds them & makes excuses so they don't have to think with nuance & empathy.
They getting Boomer Brain
5:51 the health care workers she doing to much she wish she can get communal workers to help her at the hospital because them people be under staff it the same thing
That’s so sad! That’s that same abused becomes the abuser mentality 😢
This is too much drama over school supplies.
😂
IKR? Could you imagine how these people would act if there was something going on in their lives that was actually serious?
Wait these parents get NOT sending the supplies with their kids means their kids are the ones using other people supplies they brought in right? 😂😂😂 they are the problem they’re mad at
Exactly!💯
But what if the parent doesn't have money for supplies?
@@doyou4youThen they would get the communal supplies tf, they benefit from it.
@@doyou4you
Then they are welcome to benefit from the community supplies. My school district has a discreet form you can fill out for supplies, activity fees, instruments for band and orchestra, sports uniforms and probably other stuff I can't think of.
The kids who need the school supplies the most come to school with Jordans and Stanley cups, and bully other kids for not having them. I said what I said.
They don’t even come with a pencil. But have all the new shoes. Crazy
And it’s sad that a lot of kids will keep that mentality they got from their parents and wonder why they’re so broke.
Thank you!
@@kathurtado13idk why you thanking anyone when they probably talking about YOU and your kids lmfao
@@verbalbeauty18no I can totally see this mentality at play. A lot of the young men I see fare skipping on the subway are wearing rare looking high top Nikes or Jordan’s. “Man I aint got money for train fare.” We know, we can see the clown shoes on your feet you used it to pay for.
First Grade Teacher here, chile these supplies are for the YEAR. Most of the parents that complain about every little thing I don’t see them until their child is on the retention list for the next school year. Whatever you can give I’m thankful for it because I’m here to teach the kids and do my absolute best. All I ask is that we work together for the benefit of the CHILD! You may feel whatever you want about me and vice versa but it’s not about the adults it’s about the children.
these adults WANT to be children so of course this is what happens--selfish foolishness!!!
Exactly. I always buy extra for my son's class. I don't see the issue. I'll even give school supplies as teacher gifts 😊
Have a great year in the classroom @godsdaughter5.34 !
The government is not using our tax dollars properly. They rake in about 3.2 trillion dollars a year in federal U.S. tax dollars but they can't just provide the nation's children with some school supplies in each of their "federally funded" public schools. They have money for new mac books every year for schools in wealthy areas but not the basic $0.50 products for everyone. It's madness.
I've seen first hand how teachers have to come out of their own pockets for supplies. They're allocated a certain amount from their district and once that's gone that's it for the year.
Irony: refusing to contribute to communal supplies because you don’t want to take care of other peoples children while in turn making other people take care of yours through those communal supplies they contributed. Make it make sense.
Right, and I think it just teaches selfishness. Like I don't care if someone else's kid uses my kid's shite. As long as everyone is learning, and having a good time.
But my mom would buy me specialty things.
I was an artistic kid.
I was VERY protective of my art supplies but did let people use my items.
i needed my pencils SHARP
So I brought My eletric sharpener to school and did let other people use it ...
And it was stolen
a whole ass eletric sharpener.
I was pissed. And was a "selfish" person since then. If you didnt bring it/ your parents didnt buy it, its not my problem,
i didnt ask for hand outs or steal pencils everyday,
i brought my stuff that my mom and dad bought for ME not you
And we wernt rich. We lived in a trailer park.
Thank you for proving the idea of communal schooling is stupid
@@ggez5890 it's not stupid. It's flawed on purpose.
@@vvitch-mist20 it's stupid to expect The Rabble to be of intellectual comparability to us Betters. The school system was designed to make factory workers, not society members. It's better when people know their place.
This debate has me looking for local school drives and I don't even have kids lmao
Everyone benefits from an educated society. We owned a house before we had our child and I did not bat an eye at paying into the school with my taxes. At some point those kids will be the next generation of doctors, nurses, etc.. I don't understand the hate some folks have for education.
My tin foil hat theory is pit people against each other so they don't notice funding or other stuff being cut. @@edenstewart6734
You should donate if you can! The people who donate aren't giving the supplies they buy for a school drive to their kids, lol
@@edenstewart6734 Exactly. My husband and I never plan to have kids, but we vote for every school levy, are happy to pay taxes to our school district, and donate where we can. We know what it was like to be the kids without and try our best to support those growing up in a situation similar to ours.
"we don't got a village no more"
*Refuses to buy basic supplies for their own child and is furious at the idea of having to share anything with anyone else*
Parents will spend $100 on a single pair of shoes for their kid or a hairstyle for their kid, that will last weeks/months. But those same parents won't spend $100 for the supplies necessary for a year of their child's education?? 🤦🏾♀️
Exactly
That’s people for ya -- which is why communism doesn’t work -- some people do all the work and some are mad responsible … ONLY TO BE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF BY THOSE WHO DONT CONTRIBUTE OR DO ANYTHING.
Girl, stop trynna leech off us🤦🏾♀️
I'm not leeching off of anyone. I have 3 kids and I provide the requested supplies plus extra for those who can't or won't. Just making an observation 🤷🏾♀️
@@mysteriousastrolabeleech off your 10$ school supplies? Get a grip
If its to much to bear you have serious financial and moral problems
I was the kid asking to use your glue stick when you were finished with it, I have a moral obligation to contribute to communal supplies.
Kewl, I'll send my 3 kids to your kid's classroom because "I'm broke"
😂😂😂😂
@@kathurtado13wtf is wrong with you
Thank goodness for the communal supplies right?
@@kathurtado13 found the karen
@lana-jg4ho Easy on the demand there junior.
I was the kid who used the communal supplies all day everyday. The only ones who suffer from the lack of supplies are the kids. Whether their parents couldn’t provide for them, or they could and chose not to, they still deserve those supplies.
I never once used the communal things
We bought the stuff on the list and i had my own stiff and my mom would buy me specialty things.
I was an artistic kid.
I was VERY protective of my art supplies but did let people use my items.
i needed my pencils SHARP
So I brought My eletric sharpener i got for my birthday to school and did let other people use it ...
And it was stolen
a whole ass eletric sharpener.
I was pissed. And was a "selfish" person since then. If you didnt bring it/ your parents didnt buy it, its not my problem,
i didnt ask for hand outs or steal pencils everyday,
i brought my stuff that my mom and dad bought for ME not you
And we wernt rich we lived in a trailer park
@@Thebeezzkneezz.wow you must be fun at parties
@@typicalairhead6846 i am if you dont steal from me,
and you must be the one mooching weed and drinks off people at parties 🤣
almost as if i had an expérience in my past that makes me not as giving to strangers 😮 shocker
@@typicalairhead6846 and did you just choose to disregard that i said we bought the communal things on top of my specialty items?
I dont HAVE to share my special items especially if ive been stolen from in the past.
@@typicalairhead6846 and u must like stealin from people
People don't vote in their local elections then complain when shit like this happens. How about folks pay attention to the budget cuts that are hitting their schools while police forces get raises 🙄🙄🙄
The woman in the 39 minute section talking about supporting kids sounds like a super sweetheart amd I wish all parents were like this. Sadly, so many are not
I want to know where these raises for police are? I work at a police department and it took us 10 years to get back the pay cut we took in 2012… TEN YEARS!!!!!!!!
Thank you for demonstrating your ignorance of the school budget and their arbitrary process.😂 AND YOU VOTE!!!! Clown world. 🎉
I wonder how angry these anti- communal supplies parents will be if the teacher tells that kid their stuff can be kept separate and that kids loses or breaks their school supplies and the teacher doesn't let them take from the communal ones and their kid is just left out. Then they'll be complaining about how the teacher isn't sharing and how horrible it is.
I remember my mom getting stressed and frustrated when I came home telling her I need pencils or paper or whatever it was, and I need it now because I kept forgetting to tell her.
Communal supplies eliminates that as well as many other situations.
Yeah it takes the burden of providing for your kid and it gives it to another person. THE PROBLEM DOESNT GO AWAY it just gets transferred to the people who were responsible enough to contribute and prioritize their child’s education. Your mom did not prioritize your education and therefore it stressed her out to provide you the bare minimum. People like her would probably take advantage of the communal system and not provide anything just so SOMEONE ELSE has to carry the burden and provide for HER CHILD.
@@xandercrew6088you are misreading the comment. The mom was not stressed out because she had to provide school supplies for her kid. She was stressed because there was inadequate notice and she had to rush and get stuff the night before. With a communal supplies approach, the mom could have got a list of all the necessary supplies and sent them in at the beginning of the year. Then the teacher would give the kid the supplies as needed. She would still be providing the supplies for her child. Just in a more organized system. No more “oh Mom I need a set of markers for tomorrow” at 8pm after the store is closed.
Exactly
@@shadowdancer909 💯
your mom could've kept her leg closed ya know
My problem is why are teachers and parents paying for community supplies? Why not the school or the government. I swear America is so weird. One of the wealthiest countries but won't pay for free health care or community school supplies.
Parents are already struggling and for some families every dollar counts.
Where in the world does the government pay for the kids supplies?
@radhiadeedou8286 a lot of countries, in the uk the school provides everything. You can have your own pencil case with your own supplies which most people do but classrooms have glues, scissors, pens, pencils, excersise books, etc. It's baffling to me how Americans pay taxes but their students don't get essential supplies.
@@radhiadeedou8286a lot of european countries do it. In Switzerland for instance the only thing kids bring to school is their backpack, clothes to change to when they have physical education
and the swimm clothes for swimm lessons ... everything else from books to the pencils is provided by the school.
THIS IS FACTS!!! You’ve said it perfectly. This is such a wild concept to me. So many people in USA are anti-abortion but once the babies are born and growing up they don't care if they're well looked after. Teachers and parents shouldn't have to buy essential school supplies, the schools/government should provide these!
As a child-free person, I’m sick of paying for other peoples’ children to go to school. The amount of school taxes I pay is NUTS, particularly as I don’t have and will never have children. Y’all with children already get tax breaks; now you want additional breaks by having other people pay for your kid’s school supplies? Listen, y’all wanted children and I support that. Now y’all take care of them and stop expecting others to.
I already bought extras for my kids class... definitely buying more now and asking his teacher this week if she needs anything else. Some of these parents are so selfish... their kids will be the ones that need the communal supplies the most
yep...
literally that woman saying she’s gonna send her kid w one pencil one pen etc., just has me thinking that she’s acting like the parents she’s trying to criticize and not give supplies to. if you think a kid is gonna survive in school with only two writing utensils, you were either the most responsible kid ever or the most selfish lol. because kids give out their supplies to those who ask even if they never get it back, especially pencils.
7:00 WTF do you think teachers are doing? Selling crayons on the black market?! 😩
Oh crap! Busted!
All I'm hearing is a lot of complaining and self-centeredness. Bring back gratitude and kindness. School "supplies" run between 40 and 100 dollars for the whole year. Put that money down and be thankful that is all it cost to make sure the teacher has what they need to educate your kids for the year.
Literally! These people who are allowed to breed are insufferable
Watching this discussion from Sweden makes my heart hurt. People who have money don’t want to share with those that are struggling. And they’re fighting over CRAYOLA!? This is sad on every level.
its Amerikkka for you
But hey, at least they pay a little less tax right?
Ja som en förskolelärare så blir jag så ledsen. Även om kommunen ibland kan bli lite bitig när man hela tiden beställer nya limstift då det går åt mycket lim när små barn ska pyssla 😂 men tänk att behöva be förädlar om saker, man får inte ens ta emot saker från föräldrar då allt måste ha kvitto. Så även om vi har sjukt många föräldrar som vill ge oss massa leksaker deras barn har växt ur eller likande så får vi inte ta emot dem. Vilket också är synd, då mycket fint går förlorat som vi skulle kunna använda och njuta av.
As an American, I'm embarrassed by this whole conversation. I grew up in public schools. Shared with my classmates and benefited from their resources. We all went on to live good lives. This current generation of selfishness among the parents is alarming. #80sKid
@@lana-jg4hoWould it hurt you to have an original thought? 🙄
When I was in school, we all had custom pencil boxes (from the teacher) and we put our own supplies in it. She had some extra supplies on reserve incase someone ran out of something mid-assignment, but then you got a note sent home asking for your parents to refill whatever item was missing in your own personal box.
That’s how our classroom was ran, too. Primary students sit in the same room for most of the day, so idk why they can’t keep pencil boxes under their desk.
Mine too. The only communal thing was facial tissues. Teachers bought their own pens. Chalk was supplied.
@@bourgeoisbarbie7734I doubt even use the communal supplies because I had my own. We gave one communal box but carried our own tissue.
@@bourgeoisbarbie7734teachers shouldn't have to buy their classroom supplies either
I definitely think things are a little different now. Back in the day, parents were more involved. I remember going to parent teacher conference, and it was packed. Now, I go to my kids parent teacher conference, and I can count the parents there. What we used to do doesn't really work now
The lady in the pink is treating the school like they're her "baby daddy." Ma'am, that's not even logical to send your child out into the world like this. 1 pencil!?
Why would you insinuate that she has a baby daddy?
@@whyme7862 because she's operating with a scarcity mentality. It's not about whether or not she is a baby mama. It's about the logic that she is presenting.
It's selfish af
Agreed. How embarrassing is it for a child to have an ignorant, loud and proud mother like that? 🥴😒
I get keeping nicer supplies at home. But how embarrassing for that kid to have to then take from other children now because his mother is incapable of buying the cheaper stuff to go to school with lol
Charging for play dates is something I never in life heard of until someone on UA-cam shared I believe it was a TikTok about a mom complaining that the parent of her child’s friend wanted money for the play date! And why? Because if they were gonna host a child they need money for snacks the child eats and whatnot. It was crazy.
i normally charge a small 400$ for my daughter for us to host it; hourly, and then of course there is a cleaning fee but thats only 200$
That’s WILD. Especially if you invite someone somewhere. I’ve only heard of this happening once where the family made the little girl feel bad because her parents didn’t send her with money and she just went without a whole day at the amusement park with nothing. Of course, you SHOULD send your kid with money, but I can’t imagine making a child feel uncomfortable and responsible for that.
I’ve also had friends tell me they’ve had friends send them a Venmo request for a percentage of alcohol/snacks when they attend a party. 😳 If you go out to eat and split it, yes, but to invite someone to your party and charge them afterwards is audacious at best. Hilariously enough, the few times I’ve heard of this, the person charging for their party supplies has been quite wealthy…like over $250K per year or more income. I guess they are financially comfortable because they know how to hang onto their money. 😆
There should be two lists. One for what your child needs and one for what will be shared. Very easy 🤷🏽♀️
That’s kinda what I thought too and they should add a section for optional things for parents to get that could be used to help out other kids if the parent chooses to do that and has extra resources for it.
Agreed, it’s the best way to
the fact people are begging for socialism when they can’t even agree on sharing children’s schools supplies shows me y’all don’t really know what you want lol
I live in socialism. Daddy government pays for all the things my kid needs in school. Except water bottles, that I have to buy, if I want my kid to not drink from a plastic cup.
Right? Communal supplies is like the most socialist thing lol. Also I think it’s good to in general teach kids about sharing and being a part of a community. I think that’s so lost these days.
EXACTLY SOMEONE SAID IT!! These the exact same ppl who praise it online but can’t actually practice it
100% They cry about having no community / village, but they don't want do any of the work to build that community and just the benefits.
Then they expect community when they choose greed 😞 So messed up
The issue is that the schools are making it a REQUIREMENT to share. If you ask a parent, “Hey, if you could buy a bit extra for those in need, we would appreciate it,” a lot of people will do that. But if you say, “You HAVE TO bring in extra supplies so kids whose parents didn’t buy any can also participate,” that’s when people dig in their heels.
The whole crux of the issue is taking away the choice to help, and instead demanding help. And that’s why people hate it.
People are mad at the wrong person. The School district and schools manage the budget, where is the money going.
My only problem is that I heard of some teachers who will take the stuff they asked for, which is fine, but then will also take "excess" personalized or personally picked out stuff that parents bought specifically for their children. That is what is crazy to me. . .if a student brings in all the stuff that was asked of the family and turn them in, then they should 100% be entitled to extra stuff that was bought just for them.
Tbh i also don’t think this would be as much of an issue if parents taught their kids how to value and treat supplies with care. There is no reason for there to be no glue in a glue stick, smashed in markers, broken crayons and color pencils, erasers with holes in them, and bits and pieces of pulled apart mechanical pencils scattered around the room. Im so glad I was a kid who liked to keep school supplies nice and went to a school where most students were gentle with each others personal supplies and belongings that most of us didn’t mind sharing
True. The kids that usually pull that are the ones with difficult ass parents like this because they gotta get their frustration out somewhere
When did communal supplies start? I just totally don’t remember this as a child. I remember being annoyed that my mom only bought me the cheapest items and I saw my peers with “the good stuff”. Now I homeschool. I guess it’s all communal supplies 😂
Nah that’s always been a thing. My small public school we’d share stuff. Parents also bought tissues and other things for the class too
It’s been a. Thing 💀 for some years
This has always been a thing it’s just now being called what it’s actually is. When we were kids it was “ I’ll hold these till the end of year” we never got our stuff back because they passed it out throughout the entire year
It's always been a thing. Even when I was a kid. Now I do the same for my kids
This was not a thing when I was a kid. Each parent bought school supplies for their children. I remember liking a friend's folder & trading something that I had & I didn't like for it. Communal supplies were not a thing during my childhood.
The lady in the pink…..her position on this matter….is concerning. She is presenting as a nurse (the scrubs and tag). This is the point of view from a person in CARE OF OTHERS!! Oh my gosh. Truly terrible.
Yea it was wild, especially since she was unaware of why supplies would be needed in a classroom. In my head, I was like projects, writing, penmanship, creative arts, testing, annotation, problem solving, etc. You would think she would value education since it takes a lot of training and education to work as a medical professional.
I personally know nurses who are not very intelligent and are selfish, so yeah I'm not surprised.
Maybe because she works hard ? She works long hrs and maybe she doesn’t have only one kid and it’s expensive for her ? Maybe she is single ? She said she would buy stuff for her kid ! Not others
I noticed that too, she’s definitely in that profession for the money. Scary she works so close to vulnerable people.
@@flower656Doesn’t matter, we don’t want her in our community.
16:04 Oof! As a former teacher, glue sticks, pencils, and paper was the ONE thing kids would go through quick. And someone pray because when a student got mad and decided to take out the frustration on school supplies....man.
And there was always that one kid who ate the glue sticks and chalk. 🤦🏾♀️
@@Rachael.Moreland. 😆😆😆 Yeah, there was always that one kid
If students are ruining the supplies on purpose, that is a discipline problem, not a supply problem.
Wait. What happened to BOXES I had a little box with my name on it and we had all of our supplies in there and were expected to keep everything in there. Did we stop using boxes?
Tbh… it seems like this really is an issue of the school board and government. I have never been asked to share my school supplies. I also never ran out, we weren’t rich but my grandma bought supplies year round in bulk (for example she would see in the paper that crayola markers were a dollar for the pack and she would by 5-10 to put down for the years to come) so I always had. The only thing I ran out of was pencils because I lent them out to friends and forgot to ask for them back.
The only time we as a class shared supplies was for art, and by shared I mean the teacher would bring out the supplies that the school paid for and the class would share. Or for group projects the teachers would put out baskets of supplies for people to use.
Never came out of my grandmas pockets. So clearly the school is being neglectful in this situation. My grandma would just tell me every now and then, check your bag and if you need something get it out of the closet.
This is just a sad situation that we are at a place in society where adults are arguing about supplying children ( rather they are yours our not) with what they need to be successful students.
when people are responsible for their own kids, they don't appreciate irresponsible parents making their kids other people's problem...kids are very expensive, one of the many reasons i chose not to have them, but people have kids they can't afford. it's unfair to expect responsible people to pick up that slack. i understand it isn't the kids' fault, but tolerating this encourages people to have kids they can't afford.
@amandak.4246 my dude, irresponsible parents will have kids whether or not there are communal school supplies. The people you are imagining are unlikely to care enough about their kids not having supplies that it would trigger a change in their attitude.
All you do is punish the kids, and not just the ones with "irresponsible parents", but the ones in situations where the parents actually cannot provide despite their best efforts.
There wasn’t communal supplies when I was a kid but they did ask everyone to bring a box of tissues for the classroom. But honestly these people melting down over shared school supplies are the types that really shouldn’t have had kids.
Same when I was a kid. An extra box of tissues and maybe pencils but that's it. The parents refusing to contribute are shocking. 😮
I don't remember ever having anything communal that I had to bring to school when I was a kid. But I do remember asking if I could borrow a pencil, piece of paper, or eraser and so did a lot of other kids. We would borrow from each other. I think that is the purpose of these communal supplies so that all kids will have everything at their disposal. Especially when kids are known to lose or damage things.
why are they acting like crayons and notebooks aren't cents? if you stick to the basics, it shouldn't be more than $50. I don't want these moms complaining about the cost of school supplies to have a Stanley's...
fr all these moms acting like their kids deserve ticonderogas and crayola brand everything like okaaaay kids ain’t gonna know the difference! and if they do… give them their own little bag of stuff to take into school separate from communal supplies 🤷 kids with nothin are gonna be happy with crazy art crayons anyways lololol
Right?! Crayola 24ct crayons cost $.50 during back to school. These people are tripping.
why don't you pay for it? problem solved 🤷🏽♀️
@@ilefttheband I have for years. Kids use my classroom items all the time. 😊
@@marshea83Thank you ❤️ you are appreciated
I just hate when teachers speak like this is universal and every school operates the same. For example with the glue sticks that was given were definitely all put together where students would just grab whatever. Lots of times glue sticks and other stuff were missing, thrown around the room or just empty or dried out in the container. The teacher definitely doesn’t pass it out individually. I was a student who always had my own supplies all that sharing is why kids always get sick.
I’m a teacher. In my school all the supplies are provided for the students. I also purchase extra supplies for my classroom during the Summer when stores have them for 25 or 50 cents. This is a good idea for parents that have to purchase supplies. Buy them early in the Summer when they are cheap. Focus on what your child is learning and NOT supplies. It’s what they learn and not what they color or glue with.
A lot of schools don't send them out in early summer. That would really help some people to be able to plan ahead though.
The problem my family ran into was the extra supplies (that I never ended up actually needing) being listed as a requirement, when my parents couldn’t afford to buy supplies for the whole classroom, just for me.
I think it’s great when parents who can buy extra do, but when my parents couldn’t my teachers would badger them. (For clarification my parents would get me all the supplies on the list but only extra tissue boxes and that was it).
I think some people forget public school has poor kids too.
I still have a trauma memory from kinder, I went to a nun school and they did that communal basket thing. I had my favorite scissors they were red, clear with glittery, I loved seeing throw them. One day they gave my scissors to another kid, I was trying to get them back and he broke them in front of me on purpose. I'm 33 now I haven't recovered fully. 😂
I feel bad for the kids who hear the adults declaring they are not paying for school supplies at home, then showing up to school empty handed while their peers have the supplies their parents got for them. 😔
My issue with this whole debate is that it wrongfully puts the burden of "communal" supplies on the parents instead of the state and, insidiously, NO ONE asked for the parents' imput before it was done. And now parents are shamed and low key bullied over not wanting to "share" with children when in fact they just don't want to subsidize a system that should be providing these supplies with the taxes that they've already paid. If parents don't get a say in the school budget and how they allocate funds then schools shouldn't demand that they are held accountable for their shortcomings.
Thank you
Someone used to steal my stuff in elementary, I told my mom thinking he would get in trouble cause I was fed up. Instead my mom made him a pencil box ( crayons,colored pencils, pencils, eraser,etc). He stoped stealing cause now he had his own, his family couldn’t afford much. We weren’t close but I started to just give him thing I didn’t want or need if I had extra it went to him first then anyone else
1. I think more pressure needs to applied to the state representatives, school boards, and the government to distribute more funding for school supplies. Kids need to have the supplies they need to learn/get an education. This is not the kids' responsibility or fault. Periodt.
2. Community is built by the people. Pitch in if you can and are able to buy a *little* extra. The world needs kindness more than ever. Parents and teachers don't need to be fighting amongst themselves about this issue. Let's direct that energy and time directly to the local and state government and the school board.
3. If there's a communal bin for supplies, I believe that should be communicated upfront. Say what's on the student supply list and what's on the communal supply list. Some kids love buying themed school supplies and it's a form of self expression with the added benefit that it gets them excited to learn. I can see a kid feeling sad or mad if they just didn't get to use things they picked out or see it being broken. If it's communicated upfront, then parents can provide the more themed things at home as an option.
I'm not a parent or a teacher. Im a former student and I was mad pissed when my teacher took all my supplies away from me only to give it to some other kid while I got a notebook that I did not pick out from the store. I still harbour hatred from that, so I'm with the parents on this one.
Sounds like you never learned how to share. My school didn’t do communal supplies but we still shared amongst ourselves.
Thats the issue: people don't understand that no one is taking away your the hot wheels pencil case. No one is taking EVERYTHING the kid brings. It's pencils, glue sticks, markers, crayons.
It’s time to grow up. Life isn’t fair, but we can all work together to better each other. It seems you still haven’t learned that lesson.
If you still harbour hatred from having to share school supplies with other kids as a child, you have bigger issues, I fear.
@@nigeriansista Well. If the op story is true. What happen is, the teacher took everything away from them and than handed them random stuff. They didn't get to enjoy using the stuff they shop at a store with their parents to pick out. Which could of been a real bonding moment between them and their parents for all we know.
Which this is bad. First off. It doesn't teach them the value of sharing, nor caring for others. For true kind heartness, comes out of a willingness to do it yourself. Not being force to do it. If your force to do something, you likely going to make them end up resenting it or not wanting to do it. Which is the last thing you want, if you want people to learn how to share. Getting them to do it willingly, is the best choice. For then they will share on their own in the future. Which is best done by showing the benefits of sharing. Like how happy it makes someone else, they get to join on the art project. That and teach the child who benefits from sharing, to treat the item they are being given, like it was their own personal item. So they will take good care of it. That way both children learn a good lesson, while also being able to enjoy the fun school art project. Which can lead to them returning the favor later as adults. By donating supplies to a local school.
While to you and i, it might be clear why sharing is good. To young children, that might not be the case. Given they are still learning. Where you need to clearly explain things, to have them properly understand why something is good. While the op story, if it is true. It a case of bad teaching. For it failed to teach why sharing is good.
These clips truly highlights those who have been taught to share and those who have not. Community based supplies not only provides necessities for the children, but also teach your children the value of sharing and caring for others. Its a win win. You bring more into your life with an open hand than with a closed fist.
Discretion is a virtue; some of us wish to not enable bad behaviour and poor judgement. Not my circus and I hate clowns.
Sharing because you want to is different from having your things taken and redistributed-- let's not throw glitter on it and call it something different.
A community closet that is mandatory to be supplied is not the same as parents/students bringing in extra out of their own free will to make sure everyone is covered.
I can see the issue from both sides; yes, no child should have to go without. Also yes, strangers shouldn't be expected to subsidize poor parenting and enable them to keep not caring about their kid's needs.
As a teacher, your child needs five notebooks for the 5 content areas, (reading, writing, math, science, and social studies) you only got one notebook back at the end of the year, because your child probably threw the other ones away because I didn’t want to bring it home. You have to buy dry erase markers because I have a teacher have already bought dry erase board with my own money that the students use daily to practice handwriting or math skills so we don’t have to waste paper. You have to buy all these folders because we try to help the students stay organized. You have 3+ folders because you have one for unfinished work, one for reading passages and anchor chart worksheets, and you have another one for them to take back-and-forth from home to school to make sure that you see their papers. Your kid needs 24+ pencils because throughout the day they leave them on the floor, they peel off the erasers or sometimes they literally just break them in half for no reason. I have found so many pencils just laying on the floor broken in half because the kids do not care. Then when you buy the cheap stuff, they never sharpen and crayons break so easily. As responsible as you think your child is, they are not. So we keep it in the classroom to make sure they are not wasting and they are prepared for class and not wasting valuable instructional time. We’re asking you every week on our newsletter you don’t read for more supplies. And you wonder why we need multiple boxes of crayons is because again they lose them. It’s the third week of school and I already have 24 “lost” crayons. I have found on the floor because of these students dropping them and not picking them up.
Teacher here! There is always supplies left over from the year before, that parents do not want back. I give that extra supplies to students with no supplies. There are always 1-2 parents who will buy extra or donate supplies to the class. The only communal supplies in my classroom is the hand sanitizer, baby wipes, clorox wipes, lysol spray, eraser toppers and index cards. I also have glue, pencils, and scissors that I've purchased and parents donated that is also communal supplies. I understand why parents do not want to share their supplies with others. I do also agree that the focus needs to shift to how the kids are doing in school and what we can do as a community to help all students improve.
You sound like a great teacher! You shouldn't have to do this, though. Do you have a union? Are they fighting to stop forcing teachers to pay for these things?
I will always help the kids and teachers out. With that said, the government should be providing the basic suuplies.
Everyone is getting emotional and rude about other issues. The true issue is indeed that the government should be supplying these communal needs. We paid into them and they aren't being put to good use. Calling people assholes and such is not solving the problem. Its in fact worsening it
The government just means tax payers.
I like how these parents call other parents awful for not giving their kids supplies, and then do the same thing to their own kids but attempt to justify it lmao
Its actually creepy seeing these adult parents getting so pressed over hypothetical "leech" children using the stuff they didn't buy.
In my country, these communal supplies don't exist in our schools. Each kid bring its own supplies et the parents keep at home the rest of them. In the school that I went to, a few kids didn't have the needed supplies to study. The teachers didn't have extras. The kids that had extra supplies ended up lending (and never got back) the pens, pencils etc..
I think these communal supplies avoid all of the sadness, frustration for the kids and the teachers. And that is the important point. I would not care of about buying extras glue stick ou pens, if needed for everybody to be in the best condition to study.
I’m a teacher in Canada and I think it’s so wild that this is a thing that happens in the states? Our school funding is definitely decreasing, but there were always school-funded communal supplies in my elementary classrooms growing up
I grew up in the U.S., and this is wild to me, too! We never had to do this back in the day. School funding has been steadily going up, but I think schools take advantage of generous teachers by forcing them to buy supplies. Not enough people are standing up against this, so it's getting worse.
Tell me you aren’t involved in your child’s education without telling me 🙄 communal supplies help kids who have nothing
When I was in school there was no community supplies, everyone used their own and we actually had homework and we actually used the supplies are parents bought!!! I don’t understand what is going on in 2024🤦🏾♀️
It may sound harsh but if you keep providing for someone who refuses to even try to provide for themselves (or in this case their children) they will eventually come to expect it and after a while it becomes a duty then a burden. Why should I constantly be expected to pay for someone else's responsibility? At that point why should I follow the rules and be the supplier when I can literally just take advantage like every other person is doing? I can save money AND not have to stress about it that way.
Alright, just don't live in a society then. Don't benefit from society and you can be selfish as you want.
I must be old because I don't remember having communal supplies when I was a kid. My parents bought our school supplies for the year when they were on sale, and we just replenished our supplies at home when we ran out. When did the communal supplies start? I homeschool my kids, so I buy all our own supplies, and I haven't dealt with this.
As somebody who grew up with little to nothing I wouldn't share none of my school supplies as a child. Crayola is EXPENSIVE and I took care of each crayon like they were my last while other kids were breaking them on purporse or mashing them into the paper. Taking the good markers and smashing them into the handle so nobody could use them. Running down the entire glue stick then asking to use yours and ruining it. Sharpening down colored pencils for the fun of it. Stabbing the good eraser with a pencil. I'm ok with not sharing or leaving the good stuff at home. Supplies again are expensive and not even child is raised to take take of stuff and why should I keep buying #2 pencils when bad a$$ Yevonte keeps snapping the entire shared box or not even giving them back. Bloop.
Precisely.
this is on your teacher then. they should have taught the class how to care for the supplies and if they still couldn’t take care of them, a note should have been sent home and that kid would only be getting crazy art lol
edit: i just wanna ask bc it’s been driving me crazy. does a crayon stop working just bc it was snapped in half? does a pencil stop working bc the lead snap. you should expect a child to break a few things while learning how to use them right
@@shelbydanbroken supplies are harder to use, yes, especially if they have even slight issues with motor skills.
As far as teaching kids how to not be destructive little monsters, holy shit, now you’re parenting dozens of kids lol. Teachers did not really sign up for that, it’s supposed to be learning-focused.
@@shelbydanit should be on the parents to teach their kids to respect the property of others
I went to school with plain folders and Rose Art crayons because that was what my parents could afford.
Kristen's parents sent her with Lisa Frank and Crayola.
Would it have been fair to Kristen that her things were taken and handed to me because her stuff was nicer?
I don't think so.
And that's a huge part of the problem parents are having; they're getting their kids things special to them, to their personalities and preferences-- and then the teachers are taking it all and handing it out at random-- and when you're an elementary school kid, it absolutely DOES MATTER to your little heart that your special favorite folder or notebook is gone. It hurts when you had something special and then it's gone to someone else that doesn't care about it.
I never wanted to share my crayons because I would ALWAYS break them no matter how careful I was. I used my broken crayons because I did not want to break other people's crayons.
Said NO kid ever 😂
If you have 25 children in a class I can understand every parent buying for the communal supplies but asking for ten of this and ten of that is ridiculous.
Literally if everyone gets 1 personal pack of crayons and 1 pack of generic crayons for the communal box that surely is sufficient
It’s for 9-10 months and you use the supplies for 8 hours…do you understand how long that is for about 20-30 kids. 🤦🏾♀️
Keep in my mind, this is for the entire school year.
I homeschool and my kids do not go through ten of anything in a year. If they break their crayons-they get to color with broken crayons. It's called accountability and consequences.
I bet they are needing way more supplies than usual because some children aren’t good with taking care of supplies. It only takes 1 child that doesn’t care about keeping things nice to ruin all of the supplies within a short period time, when usually that child would only destroy his or her own things.
I think it's absolutely ridiculous that the school doesn't provide basic necessities that a teacher needs, like dry erase markers. It's absurd that either parents or the teachers themselves are expected to buy those. That's the real problem here.
It's exactly the same as the tipping situation, which you mentioned and I think that's a perfect comparison. It's insane that restaurants are allowed to pay their staff under minimum wage and expects the customer to subsidize that. That shouldn't be happening.
I think you hit the nail on the head very early... "...if you have the resources..." alot of people really don't right now and I think that is where the problem is.
No parent should be responsible for providing for children other than their own. If they want to be nice and send extra for others, so be it. Forcing anyone to do anything is never going to end well.
All I know is…. If I have to go up to the school because the kids that don’t have their stuff bullied my lil cousin out of all the stuff we sent and stop her from using it. It gon be some problems. The main ppl who don’t contribute feel super entitled.
As someone from the UK, I was not aware this was an issue. I’m pretty sure most, if not all schools, passed out fresh school supplies yearly. When you hit secondary school, you had to bring your own pencil case but if you didn’t have it the teachers definitely had extra.
I’m shocked there isn’t an allocated fund for teaching supplies
It honestly shouldn’t matter 💀 school is a community . Complain about what the children may need and use is crazy to me
I remember I was that student “disrupting class” by asking other students for pencils pens highlighters. Accidentally stealing them because I went to my next class with their pen or pencil and then feeling bad if I lost it. I was also was that child who would be picking up all the supplies discarded on the hallway floors when school was over with.
I believe in an educated society. An educated society is better at understanding pressing issues and creating solutions. I buy supplies on my supply list, buy extra, and ask if the teacher needs anything because educated people make a better society for all.
If you support that nonsense, I correct you that you mean indoctrination, not education.
Bless your heart. The nice thing is you are welcome to teach your own kids at home or send them to a private school. No reason to be hateful to someone you don't even know.
I'm homeschooling this year, but I'm still on the lookout for supply requests from our local schools and neighbors. I can afford $20-$30 to help my community. The kids are my kid's friends.
We also were given 30 notebooks from another homeschooler who's family bought them too many...we won't use more than 6, so we can pass on the rest.
I grew up in poverty. We didn't have enough food. We wore clothes that were too tight or too big. We couldn't afford school supplies. I will absolutely help where I can, because I've been there. It takes a village, and we became one.
I am all for communal supplies like Kleenex, glue sticks, pencils, dry erase markers (would prefer if the teacher would just ask for $30 upfront and buy supplies as needed) and i have no problem picking up more stuff throughout the year so they don't have to store all this stuff all year. The past few years that I've had kids in school, I always message the teachers and ask throughout the year to see how they are doing on supplies and will pick up anything needed from a Sam's club on the way home from work or order it off Amazon. BUT when it comes to things like crayons, markers, scissors, folders ect, THOSE things are for my kids. I have no problem buying extra. Now this year i am looking at using the same supplies they used last year that I can. I shouldn't have to buy a new pair of scissors. If the crayons aren't broken, why do i need new ones? I can suppy new pencils for our entire school for the next 3years with all the pencils they have sent them home.
Some of these folks are so kind and open hearted that it makes me have faith in the world. The other loud and self serving ones make me sad. We homeschool but if we didn’t I would bless the class with as much supplies extra as possible.
I had to be responsible for all my supplies, books etc for the whole year we had lockers to keep our things in with our own locks, so if you were unprepared you got an F in class for not being prepared they held us accountable so the next time I bet you had your stuff!!!!😂😂😂
I'm stunned that this is even an issue. Like did everyone go to private school or something, or did they just forget how to share??? Idk about y'all but when I was in school we always shared and like no one would ever try to fight about a school supply list. Complain? Sure. Never be like "I'm not doing it"
i don't have any memory of sharing in school. we all had our own supplies, in little pencil cases. i do think parents were asked to contribute boxes of tissues though. it was only the irresponsible loser kids in later grades that constantly destroyed or lost mechanical pencils and would mooch off of others...
I remember when I lived with my half sister and her 8 year old daughter came home crying because she was the only one who didn’t have money to buy lemonade at lunch for a school fundraiser. However my half sister said that if she was a teacher she would have paid for her student’s lemonade but I told her it’s not the teachers responsibility to pay for her students food because they can barely afford to survive themselves. Meanwhile my half sister was able to save enough money to go to Disney with my two nieces and paid for her second crack addicted baby daddy just to show off on social media 😂🤦🏽♀️
Maybe they should make it a tax write off, like you can file it under your taxes that you spent more for communal supplies? Would give some people an incentive, like what charity donations do for businesses, because it is technically charity.
I'm old. I went to elementary school in the 80s. When did this become a thing? I remember everyone bringing and using their own supplies. And if you didn't, the teacher would give you Xerox paper or that green paper with the lines....
Dollar tree does exist.
For now...the 99 cent store in my area is closing.
Dollar tree is more expensive than the sales, though. Crayola is 50 cents at target and $1.25 at dollar tree.
Hi ! I think the first lady made a few valid points : there are some parents who won't buy any supplies because they know that the teacher will not have a choice and will allow their children to use school supplies bought by the " responsable " parents . I'm from France and everyone has his/ her own pensil case + other supplies that must be tagged with a name . Textbooks and notebooks are provided by the school as they are included in annual registration fees.
That’s what USA should do paid fees so teachers don’t have to worry about this happening
@@OneGina83 better yet put our outrageous taxes to better use such as taking care of children's school supplies.
Thank youuuu, it shouldn’t be the parents or the teacher, this is a problem with school funding and budgeting. Nobody either parent or teacher should pay for irresponsible parents.
"You're buying things for your kid not other kids... Communal supplies aren't shared with other kids."
But also "if your kid doesn't have a thing, they will get it out of the communal supplies."
LOL
Do you think that woman gets confused when other people are in the communal area?
Well, we have all this money for wars but we can't afford to give our schools enough hand sanitizer and Kleenex glue sticks and pencils?
This is so sad to me how people don't realize children are our future leaders, and we all need to be a village to set them up for success. I was one of those children where my mother was terminally ill and couldn't afford even food I'm glad for my teacher Mrs. Barnes who treated me with so much respect and never let anyone in class notice I had nothing she supplied everything to me privately also she was the only person that hugged me when my mother passed that year. That stuck with me my whole life.
This is why America is cooked as a society
For some odd reason everyone believes they got it out the mud while benefiting from social programs and government aid/support
What happened to it takes a village to raise a kid? And its not solely about money... don't have the money to help with supplies, help with your time.
If you can afford to buy the supplies but refuse to send them to school so your child has everything they need to learn, you should just home school your kids.
That's not the issue. It's parents who refuse to give and their children using the supplies other parents bought.
Her saying she dosent have any friends that are teachers is not surprising lol
I've never heard of this before till some post on Reddit I saw few days ago. I'm not from America. When I was in school everyone had their own supplies. If someone forgot crayons or glue, kids would just share. Most kids always had crayons, glue, construction paper, plasteline on them all the time, so we wouldn't have to bother about forgetting something. If teacher required something other than that, usually sewing stuff, we would wright it down, parents were supposed to keep tabs on what's going on at school. Some of these arguments in this video are wild. Like that lady claiming you wouldn't feed a child, if you're not willing to buy communal? Girl, get real, those aren't the same thing. Personally, I wouldn't mind buying some extra stuff within reason.
Maybe the middle ground is that parents kindly supply one back up set of supplies for the classroom and one that is your own child’s personal supplies. That way those kids learn to value and look after personal things, and then no kids go without, including your own kid if they run out of their personal things 😌
So basically those who are complaining about buying communal school supplies clearly grew up poor and/or probably currently poor. Which means your child will need the community at some point. I don't even have kids and I have donated school supplies to different school programs.
I only have one child. And she gets two sets of school supplies. One set for the “communal supplies” which I still get the good name-brand and a set she helps me buy. She's going into second grade and I remember how much school supplies and shopping for them with my mom made me happy and excited for the school year and I want her to experience that as well.
I also jump on Amazon and buy classroom sets (Crayola has them for crayons and markers) and I buy extra scissors and I ask for a wish list from her teachers.
I'm blessed to be in the situation to do this because I only have one, but I can see where families with multiple children can't. That's okay we can.
Oh! And I also ask the teacher at winter break if they need anything more and try to resupply what’s needed then as well.
I will be happy to buy whatever for my kids’ classes. Maybe broke people should stop having kids and none of this would be an issue
Not the issue love 😂
I’m glad I don’t kids!!!!😂😂😂
When I become a parent, I'll buy off-brand stuff for the communal bin. It was good enough for me as a kid. My mom also taught me to be responsible for my stuff and not trash other people's things. Certain things should be communal, but kids should still be able to have personalized things that they don't need to share. I'll do my best, but please don't get mad if it's not brand name stuff. Some of us can't afford brand name items.
There's a certain political party in the US that keeps reducing the budget for public education year over year, so if you want the school/government to provide everything, then you need to get real comfortable paying more taxes.
weirdly, i am fine with paying higher taxes to pay for all this but not fine with being required to buy supplies for students whose parents aren't contributing. i guess like how i am okay with eating meat but don't wanna see the butchering. like, keep some stuff removed from us, i guess
Taxes are already plenty high. Taxes need to be spent better.
It's hard to believe just how selfish many people are these days. Village? Community? Future? Apparently, these concepts are fading fast. I went to elementary school in the '80s, and while the world didn't have the internet, social media apps, and cell phones, but we sure were a whole heck of a lot more connected.
Teaching children the importance of "pitching in" or "sharing" is important so that they actually "experience" elementary school together... for memories that will last a lifetime. We gotta do better than this. #Sheesh
This is weird half of the people are talking bout redistribution of ALL supplies and half are talking about voluntary communal supplies. If it voluntary y’all being ridiculous. If it’s forces I ain’t doing it
Symone said, "Let's go, round 2!" 😂
I'm not one for being pressured into communal supplies. This was not a thing when I went to school, and I appreciate what my mother bought for me. I would buy what my hypothetical child needs and buy some extra for students that need it. Basically, giving should be optional, not compulsion.
But if everyone felt like you, that it should be optional to contribute, then hypothetically there could be a scenario where no one contributes, and all kids go without. That's why it's compulsory because if it wasn't, there's no way to ensure participation from everyone, a scenario in which the costs are distributed evenly.
@@alliesaizan3593 charities exist, so clearly stuff gets donated without it being compulsory. i don't think that's a reasonable argument.
@@amandak.4246 Some people have the impulse to donate to charity, but certainly all do not. I don't think it's a reliable method to rely on the goodwill of some people bringing enough for everyone. I also do not believe that if a child has a special notebook or pen, that they should be forced to donate that to the communal pool. I mean ultimately, the schools should be paying for supplies, and the fact that they are offloading this cost to teachers, parents, and students, shows that the system itself is dysfunctional
Symoneeee yes parents are charging for play dates. I read it on Reddit- this lady sent another parent an invoice after a play date and there were things like “ 2 juice boxes, 1 piece of CHALK, 3 TISSUES” I said oh hellllll nahhhhhh
Indeed, it appears that our society has become increasingly focused on hustle culture, which may have impacted our ability to engage in meaningful social interactions.
@@ChocoBeauty8 I agree it’s really sad. At that point why even invite the child over or try to grow a relationship with another family if you’re gonna act that way? I refuse to normalize this
School shopping for the year used to cost my parents about 1,500 dollars just for clothes, school supplies I had to pay for my own lunch that’s another expense, sports programs another cost, field trips all this crap cost so I get it and let’s not forget paying extra taxes for that school district I lived in!!! My parents paid a pretty penny for me to have a good education so my school would have never pulled that crap!!!!
$1500 for back to school supplies and clothes is incredibly reasonable.
@TomikaKelly no it isn't! My kids wear hand me downs and thrifted items. We spend a couple hundred per year on clothes tops. This is entirely out of touch.