Nikon Zf vs Fujifilm X-T5 Battle of the Retro Cameras - Which is Right for You??
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- In this video, I compare the Nikon Zf with the Fujifilm X-T5 and Canon R5. Enjoy! #nikon #nikonZf #fujifilmxt5 @fujifilmxseries4081 @nikonusa @BandH
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You lost me when you said the AF is comparable.
Hahaha exactly!!! Plus when he said Fuji colors are better than Nikon and Canon.
I was surprised by this too. I thought the af would be light years better than the Fuji but it wasn't. It was great, but not as good as I expected.
Hate to break it to you but Fuji colors are better than Canon and Nikon haha.
@@PeteCocoPhoto Maybe do some proper testing then ? I have them side by side for the last 2,5 months and the AF is on a whole different league, which is on par with what pretty much every other review says.
Regarding the colors, pretty much same story, especially when it comes to raw files, Nikon/Canon are much more accurate. One thing is getting sponsored/being a Fuji fanboy, but another thing is saying things like the image quality and AF are comparable lol. On top of that, you didnt even mention the ZF's IBIS, which is pretty much the best out there.
There was not a single picture shown that would stress the af system of either camera. Shooting more difficult subjects and scenarios and the Fuji will fall apart.
Great video 🙂 I want to go over to mirrorless, I always shot with Canon 5D, ll & lll.I love making portraits, human and animals.Which camera is the best for doing portraits outdoors and indoors and studio?
I use Canon and Fuji and love both. If you already have some EF lenses, Canon is a great way to go since all you need is an adaptor to use them. And they work great on the R series cameras.
Thank you so much for this video (loved also the double bass sound in the background). I have to decide between this two cameras. I am with a xT3 at the moment, but...I am still undecided. Do you think that, in terms of image quality. the nikon full frame is that much better that the fuji 40 MP?
Thanks a lot
Thanks! Incidentally the bass music in the background is me. The FF is always going to beat APS-C in terms of the overall sharpness and detail., as well as dynamic range. But it's really one of many factors to consider. I love the detail of my Fuji for the work I do (portraiture).
@@PeteCocoPhoto Thank you so much!
@@PeteCocoPhoto that was in the past. I have ff Leica and fujifilm. Both are beautiful. Before I used Nikon. Colors and sharpness was not so beautiful as the Fujifilm
Which one did you choose in the end and for what reasons?
When you did the side by side with the canon was that JPEGs. Because the R5 raw files aren’t that red with Adobe or is it a canon, matching profile like standard or faithful?
I always have canon set to neutral. This was under my westcott studio lights, and they are always that warm.
@@PeteCocoPhoto I understand you set to nuetral but if you are shooting raw when you download it to Lightroom it reverts to Adobe color. And canon Adobe color is extremely flat. Are you shooting raw or jpg? I can show you examples from weddings because I shoot raw to one card jpeg to the other. The jpgs are very magenta the Raw is not. Nikon set to camera matching profiles as well. I shoot Nikon also and both shot with strobes are similar if you use Adobe color canon R5 specifically is actually worse. I shoot with R5 and Nikon every wedding and event I do.
@@sols9449 I'm shooting everything in raw, neutral, manual everything including wb, and process in C1 not Lightroom.
The Nikon FM was my first camera. No question Nikon Zf all the way! It wins over the Fuji all day long. It's FF, Superior AF, and great classic design.
It's an awesome camera, you will love it!
Indeed!
Awesome review, I was looking for something like this. One thing you forgot to mention that IS of value if you adapt lenses: the Nikon hands down wins out because you can get Eye Focus with manual lenses (it’ll show with a box on the eye that’s in focus) in manual mode. I’m not sure why Fuji hasn’t done this but as someone who adapts a lot of lenses… I’m seriously considering switching to Nikon for this reason alone.
Thank you! That's a great point I forgot to mention and a very useful features. It shows that Nikon understood who would be purchasing the Zf as well.
Did you try any of the Nikon profiles? Curious if there are some (portrait or deep tone portrait) that would have the color tones you like
I generally shoot in raw with custom WB set. I will give that a try though. The weird thing was that the studio images looked green even on the camera lcd and evf
Gotcha. I enjoyed your review, I think it is very fair. Like many, I have both Fujifilm and now the Nikon Zf. Still getting used to the color differences
@@Abc1987 Thanks! I am going to retest the AF since many have pinged me on that. Maybe I was wrong lol
Lightroom import Nikon raw files with The picture profiles on
great comparison, thank you. subbed.
Awesome, thank you!
Pete, thanks for your review and comparison. As a LONG-TIME Fujifilm shooter I recently purchased the Zf for a number of reasons. I've been waiting on Fujifilm to release or at least announce the X-Pro4 far too long and needed something to replace my X-Pro3 in my kit. BTW, the X-Pro3 is my all-time favourite camera. But there seems to be too much focus on the GFX and x100 lines with Fujifilm at the moment. I'm not a studio photographer so the GFX is a nonstarter for me.
So, I've sold all of my Fujifilm gear, the X-Pro3 and the X-T3, to go fully full-frame with all of my cameras. My kit is made up of the Leica M10-R, LUMIX S5II, and now the Nikon Zf. I only shoot with manual focus M mount lenses. Primarily Voigtlander along with a few vintage adapted Minolta lenses. What's impressive about the Zf, and I don't think you mentioned this, is that subject and eye detection works with manual focus lenses. Fujifilm cameras don't/can't do this.
There's a mark difference in the images from an APS-C camera vs full-frame. When the Zf came to market I was skeptical about until I purchased it and started shooting with it. But if you've been around long enough you can see that Fujifilm borrowed from the Nikon F series of film cameras for it's inspiration for the X-T line and from Contax for the X-Pro line. That said, picking up the Zf was like picking up my X-T3 with some differences and marked improvements.
Having IBIS and being a full-frame camera are big differentiators for me when comparing Fujifilm X-T5 and the Nikon Zf. Any of the glitches with the software can/will be fixed with firmware updates. Two very capable cameras but ultimately it comes down to how one shoots and what makes the most sense for their kit.
This is a really cool photographic journey. I can appreciate why you made the switch, and as someone who also uses Canon, I completely understand regarding the differences with FF. The Zf is a great camera. I think that anyone who purchases it will absolutely love it, and as I mentioned, I was really blown away by the image quality, even when pixel peeping!
@@PeteCocoPhoto thanks for your response. It has been quite the journey. I started out 12 years ago with Canon APS-C DSLR's, then moved to LUMIX MFT as my first foreray into mirrorless cameras and then Fujifilm.
So as you said, this has been a journey and I'm pleased with were I've landed.
Hello, your comment was very insightful!
I am however curious on whether you prefer the Nikon Zf or the X-Pro3 more? From the sounds of it you're someone who shoots and walk around a lot, so I was wondering if the Zf's weight or fully articulated LCD has affected your shooting experience.
@@shira_yone the X-Pro3 is my all-time favourite street photography camera. That said, I don't view it the same way as the Zf. I would compare the Zf more to the X-T line of cameras from Fujifilm, namely the X-T5. But we are talking APS-C vs Full-Frame.
The Zf is a HEAVY camera for walking around and doing street photography for long periods of time. I've been out with it for 3+ hours and you will definitely need a sizable neck strap for it. Carrying it in your hand along with a wrist strap will wear you out on long photo walks.
The X-Pro3 was made for street photography. The Zf for me is a great companion to my LUMIX S5II and my Leica M10-R when I'm doing portrait and event shoots. Also, the X-Pro3 is a great companion to my Leica M10-R.
I shoot with manual focus lenses most of the time so that helps with the size of the kit because the the NIKKOR autofocus lenses are BIG, heavy, and not suitable for long photo walks involving street photography in my view.
Oh, and I hate that flippy screen on the Zf and never use it. I don't do video so it serves no purpose for pure photography to me. I hope when they release the Zf II it will come with a tilting screen instead of the flippy one.
I'll end with this, the image quality is fantastic, the fact that you get subject and eye detection with manual focus lenses is a game changer with the Zf, and I really like the camera. Hopefully that answers your questions.
@@d.idowuolutosin4250 thank you so much for the answer!
Thank you for this video, Pete. I'm a new subscriber and wanted to just share that I just bought the Zf + 40mm and soon will be doing my own comparisons, but I can share why I bought this kit. I have been shooting street photography and event photography for a long time. I grew up with Nikon and had shot with the system for 20 years. Someone put an X-T20 in my hands in 2018 and that changed everything!
I have a plethora of Fujifilm lenses to go with my X-H2S, X-T30ii and X-E2. As much as I love Fujifilm for street photography and event photography, the reasons I want to try on the Zf are:
1) I used to own the Nikon D750 and a number of full frame lenses. I sold them all thinking I didn't need them anymore but as time went on, I experienced some APS-C woes with respect to some low light photography during events.
2) I also picked up bird photography during the pandemic and have been traveling a good bit to FL. The Fujifilm X-H2S is a beast speed-wise, but all I had was the 70-300mm at the time and even with the 1.4x TC I wanted to keep the lighter weight but more reach. I bought the Tamron 150-500mm and that has sufficed for now. Yet, the lure of the idea of the Z6iii in the future with beautiful Nikon glass was calling my name.
So, I'm thinking that I'll try the Zf for street and get used to it...see how I like it. I can run both systems in tandem and maybe even pick up a long f-mount lens and see if it makes a difference in my bird photography. After a 6 month period, I should be able to find out what works for me long-term.
Oh - and regarding colors, I do not shoot film simulation JPGs with Fujifilm newer cameras. I only do on my X-E2 due to the character of JPGs coming out of the older sensors, which is way more pleasing to me. I am curious to see what I think of the Zf colors! My camera arrives this week.
Thanks!
Hey Juliet! Thanks for this comment. I think you are going to love the Zf and Nikon system as a whole. Using 2 different brands has some challenges but that's what I do and enjoy both for different reasons (Fuji and Canon.) 🙂
@@PeteCocoPhoto thanks so much! I have no problem keeping to two different systems because I can get the most out of both. But only two, eh? More than that is definitely an issue. Oh, one other thing. I did have the X-T5 for a while as a back up camera but kept getting confused between the dials and buttons on the X-T5 versus the PASM on the X-H2S so I gave it back. That plus the 40 megapixels I simply didn't need.
@@juliettemansour That's the biggest drawback of 2 systems - remembering which button is where LOL
Thanks Pete. I'm still shooting with the Nikon D7200, and like it very much. At some point, I'll probably/have to migrate to a mirrorless system, and choosing between a Fuji and Nikon body will not be easy.
It's a great problem to have! I'm sure you will be very happy with either.
Should go to nikon because, fuji has no fullframe and auto focus of fuji quite behind nikon, with latest glass , nikon beats fuji. in term of AF, Xt4 on par with z6. The latest z8 left xh2 very far away in term of focus.
@@dieutran9066 Hi, thanks for your comment. I have to stick with Nikon for still images because the RAW image conversion software I use can not open and process images taken with Fuji's Xtrans sensor. The sensor/filter filter type much be RGBG. I don't think I can use Canon or Pentax cameras either, which is OK because I have all Nikon glass. For video, that's entirely different. I can use any camera. Thanks.
Very nice comparison ! As a jpg photographer can you please make JPG comparison under different light conditions using auto WB and custom WB with the standard picture profile from both cameras ? Thanks
If I have time I will do so! Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
I know there are a lot of little differences between these two cameras. But, for me, I'm sticking with my X-T5 because my envy for the Zf's better low light capability doesn't make up for its heavier weight and odd ergonomics. I like to walk around with my camera in my hand for hours.
The X-T5 is the perfect size/weight for long days. I love it and take it with me everywhere.
@@PeteCocoPhoto Yeah. I like it having so many programable buttons too. I genuinely do use a lot of them. I did hear that the X-T5's scratchable surface is due to them using less eco-unfriendly materials in manufacture compared to older Fuji models.
Barely heavier but much better build quality, ergos are great when you put on the grip (and learn that you hold a camera with your left hand)
@@richardlucascronley5128 For me, the left hand has nothing to do with its weight. As I the advantage of less weight is simply when I'm walking 10 miles with the camera in my right hand, on a wrist strap.
@@richardlucascronley5128barely heavier with grip added? You're looking at over 800g just for the body. A lot of xt5 with lens combo's are lighter lmao
As a former Nikon shooter - and current Fuji + Canon user - this was a good comparison. Given some of the lighter Canon options these days (R8 for example) - if Canon came out with a retro designed camera similar to this Nikon Zf that was in comparable size/weight to the XT5 - I could see myself committing only to Canon! I love the portability of the XT5 but as said by another poster - I do take that compromise in light capability for the form factor of the XT5. So many great cameras out there nowadays.... I think your comment at the end, Pete, about thinking of the eco-system you would like to invest in - is sound advice.
Hey Kathy! Thanks for watching as always. You know, I really hope Canon does come out with a retro style camera. It would be amazing to have a digital Canon F1! I heard a rumor about this so let's keep our fingers crossed!
Why you left Nikon?
Excellent review, Pete. I’m keeping my Fujifilm X-T5 in black. I shoot manually almost always and love the size, layout and colors. Would I try other brands, sure but lenses are expensive and switching costs a lot.
Glad you enjoyed it! In hindsight I would have preferred the black as well.
Nice overview, Pete. Re: lack of a joystick on the Zf-Nikon added TouchPad AF on the Zf (the first time on a Z camera) so the thinking probably was that this feature would replace the functionality of a joystick. It may also be why the LCD screen is a bit larger. However, like you, I would’ve preferred the inclusion of a joystick.
If you shoot with the camera away from your face, the LCD screen is cool for picking the focus point. But I'm most of us who would like the classic design of the Df probably are using the EVF, which makes it tough to use the touch af without hitting your nose with your thumb LOLOL
XT5 only wins because you are using that 35mm lens😂 The ZF is a way better manual shooter, especially with so many Voigtlander lens options.
Hey Pete, nice comparison. You mentioned one thing I've heard in other reviews as well about the X-T5 regarding it's build quality. I haven't held one myself, but I understand it feels lighter and less metallic. Not sure if I would like that or not. I love how my X-T3 feels. It's like a tank. Thanks for the info, have a great weekend!
Hey Charlie! Most people who come from the X-T3 don't like the build quality of the 5 - it's not the tank that it was. I've come to appreciate the smaller and lighter form factor because it serves me really well as a carry around camera.
@@PeteCocoPhoto I agree. I don't think it means the camera isn't as good. It's just different. And, I think Fuji really believed users of the XT series appreciate smaller and lighter. I'm hoping that a bit down the road when more new stuff comes out they will be available at good prices on the used market. We'll see!!
As a former X-T3, X-T4, X-T20, X-S10, X100T and current X-T30ii owner, the X-T5 feels very cheap, the dials a very light and plastic-y, the screen hinge feels too loose, and the general finish to the paint looks cheap. It's definitely a camera you need to try first if built quality is important to you.
@@anthonystonehouse I don't think it's all that bad lol. But I agree try before you buy!
I compared my xt1 to the xt3 and xt5 and it’s like the Xt1 is the military version. It’s just this metal tank compared to the other ones.
Even i have both cameras xt5 and zf.
1)Build quality on fuji xt5 is very bad. You will feel its very plasticy.
2) File size Fuji raw file is around 50mp. Nikon have maximum 30mp. Nikon have more dynamic range and more information on file.
3 ) memory card slots on fuji xt5 is better its more easy compare to zf.
4) AF ,if u shoot burst on fuji u will miss some shots more than nikon zf. But both are almost same.
5) when zf is switched off u can here some ibis noise. Because they didn't kept ibis lock. I think every ibis cam have this issue. But on zf sound is more.
6) Jpef files on fuji is better than zf.
7) low light focusing also. Same. But u have to understand the sensor apsc vs fullframe. On apsc with 40mp u will get more noise.
8) on zf one hate part is removing sd cards.
9) hand grip -in india we are getting zf with small rig grip. So zf will more handy. Without small rig grip fuji more easy to handle.
Both the cameras have pros and cons. So better buy both then sleep peacefully 💤😅
haha getting both does solve the problem!
Thanks for this comparison. I have a Nikon D500 and do go back to the 80's with the FE, which I still own. Last year I bought an x100v for an international vacation so as I consider upgrading in the future I also look to the XT5 along with the Zf. You provided a compelling case for the XT5, however since I have been in the Nikon system and have old lenses I will likely stick with the Zf. However, I do appreciate your thoughtful review. Thanks again.
Thanks for watching! I appreciate the positive feedback.🙏
Owned both the XT5 and the Zf. The Zf autofocus is superior to the XT5. Yes I do prefer the pure analog dials controls method with the XT5 over the PASM with dials with the Zf. If you valued true to life color, the Nikon does an excellent job. I disagreed with Nikon skin tone being off, Canon skin tone is definitely not true to life…perhaps easy on eyes. Way too much magenta to my liking. Film simulations on the fuji is another kind of fun factors. All depends on what one is looking for? I owned both systems for that reason.
I agree the Canon skin tones are too magenta. Both were off to me but you are correct there is some subjectivity when it comes to "good" color.
I have both cameras and you covered the difference between the two, one thing that the Fujifilm cameras wins is the switch on the bottom left side to change from auto focus continuous to single and manually autofocus, the lens selection for Fujifilm can't be overlooked because they have so many different primes and zoom lenses that match perfectly with the retro style of camera. When I purchased the Nikon ZF,I passed on the 40mm and 28mm f2 lens because of the plastic lens mount, I could not see putting a plastic lens on a 2 thousand dollar camera, so I went with the 40mm f1.2 Voightlander and the 28mm Viltrox lens, both worked well on this camera.
Thanks for watching! You bring up some good points I didn't mention.
How far can you go with high ISO on Fuji XT5 with low light camera use?
I am on the market for a new camera and narrowed down to Nikon Zf and Fuji X-S20. I would prefer compact setup since I will be using camera for fun during family events. I have Sony RX100 v, and low light performance is not satisfactory.
Hello Stanley, I have the Fujifilm XT5 and the Nikon ZF, I have no experience with the Xs 20, it does have a smaller pixel count than the XT 5 but I am not sure what processor it has. The ZF being a full frame camera should have better low light handling but the prime lenses used for low light photography are larger and more expensive than the Fujifilm cameras and if doing some event photography in low light prime lenses are the way to go, Fujifilm has some very good primes that you can use for event photography and if you're on a budget they have a few Viltrox lens that work really well, I have the 13 mm f 1.4, the 27 r1.2 and the 75mm f1.2 along with some fuji prime lenses ,in September of last year I was at a family wedding in the Finger Lakes region of New York State on lake Canadaga, I brought the XT5 and a few Viltrox and Fujifilm lens ,the 13mm f1.4 I used to take photos of the inside and out side of the venue and of the lake, I used the 75 mm lens for alot of inside shooting mostly at f1.4, I found that it works great at that aperture gives me some more detail while also good background separation,,Tokina has a few primes for Fujifilm that also works well for the price if you don't have the funds for Fujifilm glass, I found that the ZF is better suited for B&W Shooting but if you're shooting color I think that the Fujifilm cameras have better handling, again I am comparing the XT5 to the ZF. if you are still worried about low light you can pick up a flash unit with a tilting head for bounce flash,,l photographed events for over five years covering weddings, baptisms, birthdays and family gatherings/ Portraits using Pentax DSLR's with Pentax and Sigma glass, I always had a flash unit as you could not count on enough natural lighting.
@@jamesmlodynia8757 Thank you so much for your comprehensive respond, using flash is the way to go in low light. I will make a trip to camera store and take a closer look at both cameras.
I dunno- I think the ZF skin tones are great out of camera- especially with custom profiles loaded into the ZF. Fuji colors aren’t my favorite. Obviously color science is very subjective so it’s hard to give a win one way or another.
Agreed. So much of this is subjective. I prefer the Fuji colors but a lot of it is what you're used to as well. If you've been shooting Nikon for a long time, you know what to expect from the cameras and adjust/edit accordingly.
@@PeteCocoPhoto Interesting comment regarding the skin tones. The Nikon definitely is a little green, but the Canon was extremely red. I think both would likely need a little tweaking. Which one got the color of his shirt correct? They both had quite different shades.
@@jamese4729 Yes to be clear I didn't like either out of the gate.
The APSC sensor in the Fuji has always been a non-starter for me. If they made a full-frame XT5, I would sell all cameras and buy it.
^ This times 1,000
I just switched from Pentax to Nikon (Zf) but would have gone Fuji, if they had FX options.
I understand for sure. The smaller sensor does have its limitations. For me it is mostly in dynamic range and loss of DOF.
It won't happen. Why not buy GFX, it will be better than FF
@@infantfrontender6131 sooner or later this will probably be what I do
@@infantfrontender6131 I have the 50R, but it’s too big, too heavy, too slow, too expensive for most, not suited for the fast-paced street shooting I do. Full frame is the perfect compromise between various factors.
Which lens are you you using for the xt5 in the video ?
It's the Fuji 35mm f/1.4. I also use the 16-55 f/2.8 which has much better af
FYI - Aperture rings - Many Nikkor Z lenses (at least some) have assignable function dials in the normal aperture ring location. It can be assigned as an aperture dial, so the retro feel is complete, even with a modern Nikkor.
Yep, good point, thanks! If they are anything like the Canon rings, they make for poor aperture dials. I tried this on Canon and it was just too easy to move the ring to be a viable option. Haven't tried on any Nikkors though so I can't comment on that specifically.
I only ever close down a flippy screen to “protect” it very infrequently. I think both of these have a lot to offer but would choose Fuji over Nikon
You know me Greg, definitely Fuji all the way for me too. The Nikon is super cool though.
@@PeteCocoPhoto yes sir
I only use the screen for special situations like macro-photo or odd angles, so for me its perfect to have it folded invards. Thats one thing that I like withg my Zfc & Zf.
I know what you mean so I’ve set up the TouchPad AF to function in only the top right part of my screen to avoid banging into my nose.
Yep haha
Great video, most useful and balanced I have found comparing these two cameras. Ironically, the comparison has turned me off to both and I find myself sliding back down the Leica M series road and a possible purchase of an M11(I already own an old film M6 and have some Leica and Voigtlander glass) . I understand this comment might trigger some negative responses in comments, but camera choice is a very personal and subjective thing of course and my reasoning is this: I no longer shoot a huge variety of scenes as a pro (used to work with Canon 5DIII set up), I am primarily interested in documentary and street photography (and mainly monochrome), I want a compact system but with excellent quality glass (this is surely the main plus with a Leica rangefinder approach). The downsides: Cost (obviously!), and manual focus with my older eyes and while wearing glasses (so, I have to get better at zone-focusing). Anyway, thanks for helping as I consider my options!
Thanks very much! I mean if you have the budget for the Leica I say go for it!
Nothing Wrong with micro Sd leave a 128 in there never take it out. Perfect.
As a backup I guess it's okay. Still not ideal for me though.
@@PeteCocoPhoto why?! How is it not ideal it’s not slower write speed compared to uhs1 and I’m sure none have ever failed you. It’s actually more like internal storage. They are extremely reliable. For 24mp camera fine.
@@sols9449 Because lots of times I shoot raws on one card and jpegs on another, or raw/jgeg with a copy on the 2nd card, and dealing with a micro sd card with adaptor etc is a pain and inconvenience. Also, if you are shooting every day, and don't have the time to download/format 1 card over and over, you need multiple cards, now in another format, which is so tiny it can easily get lost. Trust me, no professional would want a camera with a micro SD card for any reason over a regular SD.
@@PeteCocoPhotothere’s sd card with 500Gb or even 1TB, with that much storage you could put both RAW+JPG in both cards. If you don’t want to put Raw in there then put JPG in micro SD and put the Raw in the SD card. After all second card slot is just a back up, you don’t even need to take it out of the camera, once you’ve backed your main card, just format the second card and be ready for another backup.
Many people been testing the performance and micro sd card didn’t hinder the performance of the ZF camera.
Micro Sd card is reliable and as fast as SD card. People use professionally in drone, action camera, games, etc. If you don’t believe it why don’t you test it yourself while you have the camera. Saying it’s not enough for professional before even trying it is just BS.
@@PeteCocoPhoto I shoot every single job that way on the rfive I leave the first card slot always in the camera and then shoot raw and JPEG into the SD card. The only card that comes out of the camera is the SD card and I just keep changing the SD card every wedding or event that SD card stays by my computer until it’s delivered so I have tons of SD cards
It's interesting what things people see as negatives - I think it all comes from your experience. I was never lucky enough to own a good quality film camera, so all my shooting has been in the last 15 years on DSLRs. So I'm not worried about Aperture rings as I have always controlled aperture on a control wheel. Same with the PASM switch I've always had one. So this camera actually matches my experience while looking decent. For my uses, full frame, IBIS, low light, AF and video performance in addition to picture quality are my check box items. I see in my future a Nikon Z8 to replace my D850 so the Zf would be my choice as a second body which I can use as a daily camera, street/city camera, video system and backup to a future Z8 with the ability to share lenses. I want one lens system across 2 bodies with different tasks. Primarily Landscape photography and video.
A lot of it has to do with what you've used in the past, as you eluded to.
The Zf does look like an old Nikon which is nice. I do like that Fuji sort of modeled their XT1 after the lovely Contax.RTS especially the black ones.. Of course it has evolved since then, but to me it still has that German flavor.
Agreed. The earlier XT models are nicer looking than the 4 and 5 IMO
good fair-minded review, I owned a Nikon last time (over ten years ago now) getting back into photography and after watching a ton of videos on the Fiji this time I'm going with the Fujifilm , I can't wait to get my hands on the thing and start shooting with a good camera again.
Thank you! I tried to be objective, but the Nikon fans by and large didn't think so LOL
I’d prefer 2 ‘proper’ slots, but 1 + 1 micro is better than 1 only, & will back you up (micro or not.)
I have both of them, love both
I thought about buying the Zf after reviewing it but I didn't want to get into another lens system
@@PeteCocoPhoto I understand but when Nikon released the 85 1.2 it’s hard not to
Hey Pete😃👋! Thanks so much for this well balanced comparison! I think in the end it’s a highly subjective decision which one of these two cameras is „better fitting“ for oneself. The good thing is - we live in a time where there is no „bad“ camera any longer. As you show in the video, one can take beautiful photos with both of them. Personally I tend towards the Fuji although I wanted to like the Nikon so much (as someone who owns an old Nikon FE2). But, for most of the reasons you’ve mentioned I prefer the X-T5. That doesn’t make the Zf a bad camera - of course not. I just had to accept that it isn’t meant for me😅.
Thanks for this comment! The X-T5 has been great to me over the past year. I had fun with the Zf, but I'm not going to miss it when I send it back to B&H. As you said, it's a subjective decision.
I agree, the FE2 is a beautiful bit of Kit but in the past it must remain, but it would be sad not to run a film through it.
The PASM dial on the Nikon is still irritating to me. The operating concept of the Fuji cameras is much more stringent and easier to understand even for newbies to my extent.
Fujifilm is the way to go. It's shark, beautiful colors and small and light
Before I used Nikon and also the Z series. I
Yep I'm with you
Hated the ZF body not comfortable at all, so got the XT5 and XH2 which are brilliant.
Yes the size and shape is rather awkward.
I aways felt Fuji's retro was only inspired retro. I love my Fuji's but I think retro really belongs to the Nikon Zfc in this case. If retro was the main conparison Nikon wins here. IMO
Fuji is obviously inspired by classic Nikons, the Fuji slr look alike are more of an homage to Nikon that’ll anything
May be there was something wrong with the AWB. People swear by Nikon colors. Those who have used Nikon knows that. I used to shoot Nikon before and now shoot Fuji and Sony and I miss those colors.
I had it on manual wb but even changing the wb in post didn't take the greens out. It was an interesting test but I wouldn't bash the Nikon colors too much over one image. I had a great experience with the colors outside of that as I mentioned.
I went from L mount to Fuji in recent years. For reasons I can't explain, I don't love the x-t5. I wish I did. I'd feel so much happier, but I don't feel like I have a camera to cherish, but a small useful little camera.
Is it the handling? The picture quality?
I think allot of people massively underrate how chunky the Zf is.
Yes, that's why it's not as comfortable as say an FM or the Fuji X-T5. It's a bit too tall and wide to really fit in the hand properly, at least for my hands.
100%, when tech allows this to be a bit more trim, it will be perfect.
He said the build quality of the Nikon ZF is better but in another review of the two cameras, the reviewer said the Fujifilm X-T5 is better. That reviewer also said the AF of the Nikon ZF is superior. Strange findings.
A lot of this is subjective but the Zf is definitely a better made camera just judging how it feels.
I want a DSLR retro. But I know no brand is going to manufacture DSLRs anymore. I like the DSLR viewfinder more. We see the real image.
Yeah I get that. Definitely a trade off when it comes to viewing
As always, use what inspires you to take photos! That said, FUJI all day for retro and manual shooting. I love Nikon for everything else except for retro and manual shooting. If I need a full frame camera, I'm not spending that on a Zf!
Great advice!
I compared Fuji image samples from Dpreview to my D780 (primes and 2.8 G2 Tamrons). Fuji are more noisy and dull, lacking in clean details and microcontrast. Colors can be matched in PP, don't see a wow factor. I created couple of Fuji-ish presets for NX, as good as original.
Zf has similar sensor as D780. For same money Zf is the win.
To each their own!
I used Nikon FM2 and an FE2 for my work back in the day, awesome kit, awesome glass. I had a career change, and did not pick up a camera again till digital sorted itself out. I went back to Nikon D610, big and bulky. Then one day a friend let me use his XT2. Within two weeks my Nikon kit was sold and an XT3 was bought. I never bothered with the XT4, it was bigger and had that car door mirror excuse for a rear screen. Now own the XT5, love it and the lenses, it has a rear screen that I like and it doesn't have a PSAM dial, but it does have f-stops on the lenses, it is intuitive to use. Would I sell my kit to go to Nikon not a cat in hells chance. I make the camera work for me not the other way around. People who keep changing camera systems because they think it will make them a better photographer, need to grasp the nettle!
Haha I've never heard "car door mirror" description for flip screens, that's awesome. I agree with you - changing systems ain't going to make you a better photographer! Thanks for this great (and hilarious) comment!
Can not decide between the two. 🤯
Get both! Lol
@@PeteCocoPhoto i would if i could afford it. But i can not so…i need to pick one. I handled both but still hard decision which way to go. I have a feeling zf will motivate me more
Which one did you end up getting - and for what reasons?
@@jolima zf. Because i want ff and for me it is just better camera overall. Xt5 feels like a toy
Hasselblad color science is best.
Haven't tried one. On my list though!
Nikon ZF will wipe the floor with Fuji
It's not an MMA fight 😂
@@PeteCocoPhoto lmaooo
The minute Fuji film goes full frame , I'm in lol
If Nikon would make retro lenses I would consider it. But they don't so I don't see the point of why would anyone buy this camera?
That's how I feel. The aperture ring is the best part of Fuji LOL
You can program the ring to do aperture.. also the real point of the Zf is to be a platform for all vintage glass. You can throw a Leica lens on it and the subject detection etc will still work with the manual lens. It’s brilliant. I can’t believe people still don’t fully understand this camera
@@richardlucascronley5128So? You can throw a Leica lens on any camera, and for 10 years most camera's have subject detection. But why would you want to use subject detection in a retro context? That makes your camera feel like a smartphone. Why not buy a Leica if you like Leica glass?
Sure having some retro lenses on the side is fun. But you can do that with any camera. And yeah: the point of an aperture ring, is being able to see the aperture even if the camera is of. Which can save time.
So yeah: the Nikon can do things that any other camera can do. At a higher price, with the worst ergonomics and the least versatility. So sorry: I don't understand why anybody would buy such a camera.
@@richardlucascronley5128 those control rings are terrible aperture rings haha
Build quality: So you compare a silver model with an all black model. Silver might scratch more easily.
Silver definitely scratches more easily. I didn't talk about the durability of the finish in this video, more the overall build and ergonomics.
Sound is not Top, by far. Just a comment if that helps you.
Noted. Yeah I have a nice desktop mic but I prefer using the lapel mic so I don't have anything in front of me. But it's always better sound.
@@PeteCocoPhoto somehow it seems to me that volume is low and ‘far’, not on par with most of other photography videos. Double check yours, with headphones, against other videos. Just in case I have a wrong perception.
@@TungstenOvergaard no it def isn't my best audio. I'm always looking to improve so I appreciate the feedback
Can't compare them man, full frame will always have the advantage and the ZF is unquestionably the better spec' d camera. I shoot both systems and recently acquired the ZF a month ago with the 40mm kit lens, now thinking of selling my entire Fujifilm system , it's not even close man, I used to drink the Fujifilm Kool Aid but now it's time to accept that the NIKON ZF OBLITERATES the entire Fuji APSC line up,and planning to just replacing them with dirt cheap adapted older F mount lenses for the meantime. Fuji is good but it can't go straight to 6th gear in lowlight the way the ZF does it quite easily, no matter what software A.I. advancements we have right now or in the future, APSC will always remain as the crippled version of full frame
Here's the bottom line : You can get way better keeper rates in lowlight (photo or video) with the ZF and I don't know how anyone can refute that, add the -1OEV and 8 stops IBIS to boot....It's all about that increased latitude on how far your camera could go. So objectively and mathematically speaking, the ZF is the better camera plus it is cheaper. I too wanted to root for the Fuji but it's time to move on. Color Rendering can be quite subjective but you can't say that about speed, accuracy and keeper rates. Competition is great and I hope this will entice Fuji to delve into the Full frame territory at some point in the future or else Nikon will just keep eating their luch money
Thanks for this comment - you make great points but I ain't drinking any Kool Aid LOL. My main studio camera is a Canon R5. The full frame vs. APS-C argument continues but I don't want to rehash that here. I use both and find great things about each. For the Zf though, I didn't find the af speed and accuracy, even in daylight, to be anywhere as great as people keep saying it is. I was expecting it to be, but it just wasn't, at least for me. I don't think Fuji will ever get into full frame, but I would welcome that too.
Whats the position of nikon? If i want speed i go for sony. Fuji for color absolutely. Larger sensor? Hasselblad and fuji gfx for sure.
@nethbt I am over 50 years old and heritage from my dad who given me old old type Canon… so as you figure I died hard for it. Until Fujifilm came up with Xt3 .. . In the past, I was a substitute or second man camera for small wedding company.. for emergency situations. Guess what! The customer always likely pick my pics more compared to main or first camera man , Who is using Nikon D850 . . And 2 weeks ago I met another D850 Nikon lover in one of the convention.After show my work, the dude give me a cold gesture after I told him that I took those pics using XT3. My point is you are not wrong at all. But being to compose a wonderful picture and more favourable for general people, it’s seemFuji’s colour science likely to stand out compared to other brands. Other point is how many times of year we going to night concert to hunt those beautiful pics in dark night lol .. for right now I can’t afford any kit lens from Canon and Nikon .. I keep my Fuji then lol
I think the Fuji is what the Nikon wanted to be in every way but sensor size
Yep. Fuji built an entire system around retro designed cameras, so it's going to be very tough for others to compete with them. The Zf is awesome, but it still is kind of a one-off design for people who love nostalgia.
@@PeteCocoPhotoFujifilm has 6% of the market and Nikon almost double percentage. So, I do not think that Nikon target is to have a full set of retro cameras/lenses. A company with so much history as Nikon clearly sees that a retro looking Nikon can be attactive to Fuji users that want to go FF (and medium format Fuji looks and is expensive), but also use the most modern design of the rest of Z cameras for pro users. Keep in mind that the vast majority of camera users that are non pro, are having just a couple of lenses, so these are much easier to move to another system.
As a working professional wedding photographer, micro SD is perfectly usable as a memory card. And the AF is lightyears ahead of fuji sorry to burst your bubble
Believe me I know the challenges of the Fuji AF LOL. I'm not living in a fantasy world. I want to give the Zf another go regarding the AF maybe it was the specific shooting situation I was in but it was laggy. I was honestly surprised because when I tested the Zfc the AF speed really impressed me and I figured the Zf would be even better.
Fuji bias fanboy
Guilty as charged but I thought it was pretty fair.
Fuji Fanboy 😘
Your review seems objective at first glance, but in reality it’s one sided by subtly downplaying the ‚ZF’s’ strengths.
I actually own both cameras and the AF and IQ (low-light, DR) of the ZF is MUCH better.
The ZF has better haptics and feels reaffirmingly solid.
I only miss the joystick and the better ‚vintage lens selection‘ from the x-t5.
Eh there was no subtle plot by me to downplay the Zf lol. I don't have that kind of time on my hands. I had a bad experience with the AF. It's that simple. Overall, the camera is awesome, and I didn't knock it in any way.
@@PeteCocoPhoto It‘s true that you didn‘t knock it. I just asked myself how the much better low light capability, the clearly better AFC and the more malleable raw files couldn‘t have been highlighted as differentiating factors, but then in contrast the really nice colors in Fuji jpegs.
At the end it‘s also a full frame vs aps-c discussion and it‘s simply true that there‘s an at least 1 stop difference in regards to noise performance between both cameras.
I was searching for more balance in the review.
Btw I love Fuji since the x-pro1 in 2012. I have used so much gear that I know a few brands quite well and I need to speak up if I feel a disbalance.
Thanks for creating your videos !
@@Alexandrosflower Thanks for this! I appreciate the response. You make valid points. I always strive to get better so going forward I am going to take the constructive criticism and make the next one even better. 🙏
@@PeteCocoPhoto ❤️
Pete, You are a Fuji fanboy for sure. I am sure you are a very good photographer. Thank you for your review.
Thanks. I'm not nearly the fanboy you would think. I use Canon in my studio as well. People are mad at me for saying the AF was comparable to the Fuji, but in my experience with the Zf, it was. The af was fine, but definitely didn't smoke the XT5. At least not for me.
So you buy a new expensive camera and you have to buy an expensive grip to use it. Why Nikon didnt design a good grip.Nonsense.
I think they were trying to stick with the retro design that inspired the camera. if were the same size as an FE, it would be much more comfortable.
Bud it’s 40$ or 20$ depending which grip you get lol.
We gotta stop doing this... Nikon has been nikoning forever... The FX trumps fuji in so many ways it's ridiculous. If you're new to buying a camera you may have a consumer argument when it comes to WHICH ONE DO I BUY.
as a Nikon user; I'm just gonna stop at NATIVE and VINTAGE (over 360 f-mount) LENSES to choose from and they all will have ibis.
Using the "oh it feels so uncomfortable, it's heavy, it's bulky is really a lame excuse. may want to find another camera to compare the Fuji too because it's not in the same class.
Compare fuji to another fuji
Have a nice day
It's just a comparison. People will watch this vid, and most likely purchase the one they already wanted. Both are great cameras.
This review is utter nonsense. Autofocus in a Fuji- yes I am Fuji shooter is unreliable and slow compared to my ZF. Non even close.
Sorry that my experience didn't align with yours. Next time I will contact you before making a video.
The X-T5 has retro styling but it still looks like a modern camera. The Zf looks like a retro gimmick. Amazing internals but It looks goofy.
Interesting perspective. I don't think the Nikon looks goofy haha
Looks goofy? 🤔
@@D.Trider Yes, the Nikon Zf looks goofy. It's not borrowing what is great about older film cameras and improving on them, it’s a theme park imitation of a film camera. The EVF hump is indicative of everything wrong with NIkon’s approach to retro design. It looks like it was glued together with odd bits they had around the shop. That's because they’re imitating design elements that were the result of archaic manufacturing techniques. There’s no reason for all of the raised panels on the Zf except to make it look like it was built in 1980. Nikon confused quirks of pre-CAD manufacturing for what defines retro design. Good retro design adapts the form factor, profile, and controls of older products and updates them for modern consumers. The Ford Bronco is a great example of a vehicle that leans heavily on its design heritage while remaining contemporary. Cameras from the 1980’s and earlier were great because of their manual controls, their size, and overall shape. Fujifilm gets those things right with their X-series and Nikon missed the mark. Fujifilm cameras will look great 50 years from now whereas the Zf will be regarded as Nikon’s gimmicky stab at capitalizing on a trend. I have strong opinions on this because I’m a designer but taste is subjective. If you like the Zf’s design, I hope you get one and enjoy it. It's a great camera, and to be honest, I prefer its design over the bulbous flagship cameras that Nikon and Canon make.
@@kgeo753 definitely disagree. The ZF was inspired by the FM2, a 1980’s camera. The “hump” is a classic Nikon design element utilized for an slr cameras such as the fm2. Glued together? The build quality is much greater than Fujifilm. This is a RETRO camera designed off of the FM2 which was released in 1982. Not sure how people such as yourself miss that point. It utilizes contemporary electronics internally that offer tremendous flexibility. If you’re truly a designer, you’d realize there are trade-offs when approaching a product that needs to balance aesthetic design with functional design. It’s not a perfect camera, but calling it goofy is certainly short sided and lazy commentary.
@@D.Trider I'm sorry you're offended. I did say that taste is subjective and that the Zf is a great camera. Let me put it this way, the Zf is too on the nose. You mentioned the word "balanced," there's nothing balanced about the design of the Zf. It's a balls-to-the-wall retro imitation of the FM2. As Fujifilm has proven for more than a decade, retro design can be done without looking dated or like a cheap imitation. Nikon doesn't get that because their goal was to reclaim market share by making something that hipsters and aging Boomers would drool over. Congratulations to Nikon, they succeeded. It was a shrewd business decision that they'll abandon in 10 years when the market moves in another direction.
Nonsense comparison by a Fuji fan boy.
Zf is the best camera with tons of pros and very few cons in this price range.
Nonsense comment from a Nikon fan boy. I never said it wasn't a great camera.
@@PeteCocoPhotoFor first 10 minutes you tried your best to prove how bad it is when compared to fuji. And in your final conclusion if you say it is good camera. Don't you think it will be confusing for your viewers.