Buying a 4 in 1 skidsteer bucket

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  • Buying and testing a new Titan 4 in 1 multipurpose skid steer bucket on a bobcat 743 skid steer and a 864 skid steer.
    0:00 explaining why I wanted a new bucket for my bobcat 743 skid steer
    4:30 ordering bucket
    5:29 fixing hose on 743 skid steer
    10:49 using 4in1 bucket for first time on 743 skid steer
    19:53 using bucket on 864 skid steer
    32:58 4in1 vs grapple bucket
    Buy 4in1 bucket: amzn.to/2J6hs5h
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  • @kenh9508
    @kenh9508 4 роки тому +41

    Thanks for the demo. You summed it up perfect with "it can do a lot of things, but none very good" regardless of the machine size, it is what it is.

  • @alco424
    @alco424 4 роки тому +20

    The Bobcat dealer actually told me not to bother replacing steel lines with new steel lines. They advised to have full hoses made up as it would be less expensive, easier to change and last just as long.

    • @J.D.Shelnutt
      @J.D.Shelnutt Рік тому

      Yea when you buy one its good to lift the cab and check the condition or make sure it wasn’t used for loading chicken litter, if it builds up and stays wet under there it can eat away at the metal over time. Being that short it may not matter but if hoses would feel spongier than hard lines.

  • @Tom-fz6pe
    @Tom-fz6pe 6 днів тому

    Just ordered a skid loader and decided to go with the mid-size model. After seeing this demo, I'm really glad I didn't go with the small skid as I have A LOT of dirt to move, and I wanted to get a 4-in-1. Thanks for the honest video.

  • @TomTremayne
    @TomTremayne 5 років тому +6

    This guy doesn't need machines; he is one himself! Always working, real passionate, mega-efficient & totally driven! I don't know what it is about his videos but they're just so watchable; it's like he's the only guy in a America still focused on doing good work amongst all the BS! He doesn't really look at the camera much but in this video I tried to look at his face, see if I could see what makes him tick. I couldn't!

  • @lakesideranch
    @lakesideranch 6 років тому +45

    Fantastic video Andrew,
    Well edited with some great points about the bucket you selected and the pros and cons of the design.
    I have a CAT 226 and 252B skidsteer and was considering the same bucket purchase. I appreciate your expert advice and your professional opinion of the unit operated on both of your Bobcats.
    2 thumbs up from here on the quality of your video work, your site work, and your narratives of all the jobs you get involved in.
    IMHO you are a talented, true professional and are a very good operator of all your various machines.
    I've enjoyed numerous hours watching your videos over the years and you continue to amaze with some of your methods and always do a top shelf job with the tree work, excavation and finish grading. Be safe out there !!

  • @aldimore
    @aldimore 6 років тому +195

    LOL, looks like a 5 in one would be better. The extra function being a bigger bobcat :)

  • @MacKarakal18
    @MacKarakal18 4 роки тому +2

    For someone like me that has never driven a bobcat, the different POV angles you do are gold! Amazing job you have. 👍

  • @jamescampi50
    @jamescampi50 5 років тому +2

    I have owned several bobcats over the years. The buckets generally are the same width as the outside width of the wheels. Anything larger in bucket size creates balance issues, making the machine tippy when bucket is loaded. Also the hydraulic pumps are sized to the machine and certain implements will not operate properly unless pump is compatible. The first bucket was for light materials, i.e. mulch, maybe snow and thats it. It will work on the 743 for those materials and not cause balance problems. The 4/1 is what it is. The pump on the 743 probably did not have high enough psi. I think if you check the pump ratings on your two bobcats this will be why it works on one and not the other.

  • @richsellskc
    @richsellskc 6 років тому +3

    You put your heart and soul into this challenge.
    We love challenge.
    You're a good young man, American. Why?
    You love to hustle.
    That is what we are made of.

  • @RustyNail5856
    @RustyNail5856 2 роки тому +3

    Great video Andrew, Well edited with some great points about the bucket you selected and the pros and cons of the design. keep up the great videos, take care.

  • @bat__bat
    @bat__bat Рік тому +1

    16:30 awesome display of how heavy this stuff is and how quickly gravity can get out of control. Really great video as usual 😎 👍

  • @sparsparkster
    @sparsparkster 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for an excellent review on the four and one bucket. I wasn't planning on getting one but if I ever think about it I'll remember you and how you saved me some aggravation and money.
    I really enjoy your videos. You don't hide very much like a lot of other video editing. We can all see the difficulty and how it really isn't as easy as it looks in some of those other videos. Thank you!

  • @bobvincent4841
    @bobvincent4841 5 років тому +5

    Excellent and informative video Andrew! Definitely food for thought. A bucket like that would be better on the front loader of a backhoe because it would be visible to doze with by the operator and would increase the function of an already limited machine. I've seen them on old case backhoes and the clam shell has a spike tooth on each outside side edge, front and back, that helps grab logs etc. Thank you again for the work that went in to making your video.

  • @bobv4827
    @bobv4827 5 років тому +229

    Hey check your hydro oil level, most attachments ship with no oil in them, and when you hook it up for the first time it sucks all your oil and runs it low

    • @ClinttheGreat
      @ClinttheGreat 2 роки тому

      Definitely sounds like it's low on hydro oil - those pumps don't otherwise squeal like that. Ask me how I know, lol.

  • @smacfe
    @smacfe 4 роки тому +1

    You are right about the grapple buckets. They are the most useful tools and mine is on the skid steer at least 70% of the time. I did weld/bolt a dozer blade across the bottom of the leading edge to keep from bending when I am digging out heavy roots and big rocks. Can’t thank you enough for all these fabulous videos.

  • @GeorgeBonez
    @GeorgeBonez 6 місяців тому

    The bridge project is my favorite of them all. The complete bridge video is really great folks.
    I like all the water related projects like the bridge, culverts, ponds and drainage etc.

  • @keithraines298
    @keithraines298 5 років тому +6

    I have flared steel tube by heating with a rosebud and used a flare tool for copper water pipe. It worked and has been on machine for five years.

  • @treyt7651
    @treyt7651 3 роки тому +14

    As soon as i saw he ordered a 72 for that little machine i was like oh shit this isnt going to go well lol

    • @ClinttheGreat
      @ClinttheGreat 2 роки тому +2

      Small tractor syndrome (Napoleon complex, if you will). Owner trying to make his machine bigger than it is - usually makes the work go slower.

  • @artfordlowery490
    @artfordlowery490 5 років тому

    ANDREW your definitely talented young man, and amazing WATCHING your SKILLS and how well you able to improvise and make SURE that it'll work, thanks for sharing your thoughts and talents and SKILLS

  • @reichgbg
    @reichgbg 5 років тому +2

    You're a very humble and kind man, not give the company any hard time deliver this bucket. If they where descent, they will refund you instantly without any further discussion. Love your vids! :)

  • @Tugnar
    @Tugnar 6 років тому +4

    Just a layman, but learning alot from your videos! Thank you for taking your time to share your wisdom.

  • @thegit8698
    @thegit8698 6 років тому +4

    It's the same with many tools that do multiple jobs they don't do everything well, there is probably a way that you could improve that bucket yourself once you get to know it better, I've seen what you can do in your videos and your a very resourceful guy

  • @luish777
    @luish777 5 років тому

    Thanks for taking the time with the pros and cons of these machines you got lot of patients., good job love other videos

  • @maraudermitchelli
    @maraudermitchelli 6 років тому

    I Spent a month researching 4n1 buckets to get a medium duty light enough for my compact tractor, I purchased a construction attachments cmp 4n1 bucket 610 lbs 66” wide. It works great. I like your work thank you for sharing.

  • @LRSS2455
    @LRSS2455 6 років тому +104

    That smaller machine needs a 5' bucket. That 6' bucket is entirely too big for the machine.I've always used the clam shell buckets for loading gravel and sand, as you've found out it doesn't work too well for wet dirt. Maybe it's time for a bigger machine for the bucket? LOL

    • @donaldmendes184
      @donaldmendes184 Рік тому

      Check your Hydraulic pressures.

    • @donaldmendes184
      @donaldmendes184 Рік тому

      Could also have bad cylinders, that could be option. Call manufacturers. About your issues.

    • @donaldmendes184
      @donaldmendes184 Рік тому

      Also Andrew recommended checking your quick change Couplers, they can restrict flow to your Hydraulic Cylinders. Easy try direct strait lines with out quick change system.

  • @cambobby2011
    @cambobby2011 5 років тому +5

    26:01...My heart stopped! Scarry! Love all the info for DIY! Keep them comming. Tks.

  • @steveshiriaev5750
    @steveshiriaev5750 2 роки тому +1

    I have a 1994 863 and Also the large buckets. To deal with tipping issue, I added brackets on both sides in back to hold counter weights from old weight system. Helped out a lot with tipping! These machines can handle a lot of weight if properly weighted.

  • @thekeatons4
    @thekeatons4 5 років тому

    I dont have a Bobcat... I wont ever have a Bobcat but I just watched your whole video! Not sure why, but I really enjoy what you do and you do a great job of sharing the info with us... for that I thank you for taking the time to do your videos!

  • @dougcorrigan9677
    @dougcorrigan9677 6 років тому +12

    Andrew, to help manage the extra hose length: Shoup Farm equipment ( google their website) sells a spring steel hose support/ standoff real cheap. It will hold hoses routed up off the top of the bucket and allow the hose to slide through and return. Keeps it from getting pinched when you dump and curl the bucket. Welds to upper edge. I have one on my CTL attachments. Saves hoses and lost work time. Can send you a photo if you wish.

  • @caseyhill7419
    @caseyhill7419 4 роки тому +3

    Huge fan of your channel! I feel like I get so much accomplished watching your content.

  • @bohhica1
    @bohhica1 4 роки тому

    Good job Andrew, you gotta do what you gotta do to keep ahead. Great videos.

  • @Sjanzo
    @Sjanzo 5 років тому +1

    Best thing for grading with a loader, is a regular bucket with an extra cutting edge welded under the heel, sticking out one or two inch. Not far enough to hinder the bucket curl when loading from a stockpile but enough to skim dirt both ways.

  • @COYO-T
    @COYO-T 5 років тому +8

    I work for Bobcat but I don't work where they build the skid steers.I used to build allot of the attachments but they move them around to different states.I am a welder and I build the MX buckets{back hoe} and allot of the different breaker backs components.I also build the dirt and GP buckets.The sides are different but looks like that's a grain bucket.You need a C/I bucket.Its shorter in depth{blade to back}And it's built tough and made for digging in dirt.C/I stands for construction industrial encase you didn't know.

    • @bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321
      @bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321 5 років тому

      i'm glad you chimed in. do you know if people add counterweights to the small skid steers? it appears they're not designed for it but... i was wondering if the rear chassis would have room to weld on a mounting bracket to support a counterweight frame. with 200kg hanging off the back, andrew would get the stability he needs.

    • @COYO-T
      @COYO-T 5 років тому

      @@bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321 I don't think it's possible to add weights in the rear.There is a door on the rear for back of engine access.That is an old style of Bobcat.Probably when it was Melroe Bobcat.Then they were Ingersoll Rand.Now they are Doosan as of 2008-9,can't remember which year.

    • @cdouglas1942
      @cdouglas1942 5 років тому

      @@bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321 SAw a BObcat type rig recently that had a weight apparatus attached to its sides near the rear.

  • @daniellange4772
    @daniellange4772 6 років тому +174

    You should have a mechanic adjust your pressure relief valve. There should be no problem with your machine opening that clam, loaded or not.

    • @kevinvermeer9011
      @kevinvermeer9011 4 роки тому +37

      Sorry to necro this comment, but watching this later the right thing to do would be to invert the cylinder setup so that the opening action is stronger, powered by the full cylinder bore, and the closing action (which could bend the bucket) has lower force, being reduced by the diameter of the rod.

    • @v12dot
      @v12dot 4 роки тому +11

      You’re right ....the rod side has a smaller diameter surface , so less force . Invert the rams :)

    • @abmorty
      @abmorty 4 роки тому +3

      @@kevinvermeer9011 The only problem with that approach is that grappling stuff is now even more limited...less squeeze!

    • @erichhaenitsch1709
      @erichhaenitsch1709 4 роки тому

      Agreed

    • @brianlowe1052
      @brianlowe1052 4 роки тому

      abmorty p

  • @chrisgroom9299
    @chrisgroom9299 6 років тому +1

    I have the same size four in one bucket as you have here in the uk, and have no problems opening it when full. I can even load big muckaway trucks with ease. Admittedly its not fitted on a Bobcat but on a Thomas loader. Its been an Extremely useful bit of kit and have even demolished large buildings by munching them down with the bucket. I bought this bucket second hand from Versatile Equipment and suspect that part of the problem you have seems to be the way the bucket is balanced. But i know how frustrating these sort of problems can be so good luck with finding a happy solution.

  • @chrisgroom9299
    @chrisgroom9299 5 років тому +2

    Have even used my four in one bucket to demolish quite big buildings, gripped the roof and pulled it straight off. Have got video doing it. While i still have the original bucket for my THOMAS Skidsteer i tend to use the four in one bucket for most jobs. Only problem i seem to have is that my bucket only has a straight cutting edge and not teeth, which would sometimes be nice. I bought this bucket as nearly new and it has performed wonderfully.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @fynbo1007
    @fynbo1007 6 років тому +5

    Congratulations with your new 4 in 1 bucket, thank you for sharing your amazing video

  • @jeremykent9088
    @jeremykent9088 6 років тому +4

    another great video, thanks for sharing

  • @conyxmanagement1740
    @conyxmanagement1740 4 роки тому

    I am a huge fan of your channel sir...I watch every video you post and learn so much from them. I am far from an expert on anything compared you, but I am have the same exact 4 in 1 from Titan on my 763 and it opens and closes with extreme force. I can actually crush metal with it! I would call Titan directly and see what they say. I have called them before with questions/issues with other products I purchased from them and they have either helped troubleshoot the issue or replaced the item

  • @AnomadAlaska
    @AnomadAlaska 2 роки тому

    The algorithm recommended this one to my - LOL. You've come a long way Andrew.

  • @Sam-nl6fr
    @Sam-nl6fr 6 років тому +5

    Very well edited video

  • @williamhewitt4950
    @williamhewitt4950 6 років тому +6

    Hello from Victoria Australia, I seen it, hard to believe, good one.

  • @dondoolittle9761
    @dondoolittle9761 2 роки тому

    Wow! Been following for a few months. Kudos!! You've hit the sweet spot, But for us non-wrenchers can you explain a little more about things like how hydraulics work before you fix the hydraulics? Love that you're staying with your down home roots. Best advice I ever got in my life is "You're never as good as or as bad as you think you are." Love it. Can't wait for your next installment.

  • @gonget
    @gonget 4 роки тому +2

    When grading with a 4 in 1 tilt open bucket forward drop the front edge of the bucket down to kind of pre grade the material. A little playing around and it will become second nature. Also using a 4 in 1 on a pile of dirt sometimes is easier to approach pile bucket open and fill via pulling back from the top, a lot easier on the machine as you are not asking the machine to move the unmovable.

  • @williamhewitt4950
    @williamhewitt4950 6 років тому +29

    I don’t know why I love your videos. Thanks.

    • @calireu
      @calireu 6 років тому +5

      William Hewitt Me too. He is a kind of Mc Giver . Do you remember?

    • @goesintite
      @goesintite 6 років тому +1

      Same here. He kind of sounds like my little (McGiver) brother or something.

    • @johnkruton9708
      @johnkruton9708 5 років тому +1

      He never swears. Works quietly. I’m wanting to add my own videos but I’d be censored 🤬 gosh darn sum b etc etc. lol

    • @peppigue
      @peppigue 4 роки тому

      @@johnkruton9708 You can swear as much as you want on youtube

  • @learnjcbskidsterchickensga7594
    @learnjcbskidsterchickensga7594 5 років тому +6

    For the hearing impaired would be nice to have transcript in description. Love your videos. I purchased a Demo Dozer for my skid loader, a friend's recommendation.

    • @rjohnson9543
      @rjohnson9543 3 роки тому

      There is cc available on most UA-cam vids now.

  • @markbonham3477
    @markbonham3477 5 років тому +1

    Your one day appraisal is correct I would say as my experience with one of these was about the same. I operated a case with the 4 in 1 and a gannon box scrapper on the rear. I pretty much did all the grading with the gannon and only used the bucket for loading large rocks into a pile. I'm a natural for grading as my bosses all said and the 4in1 just dosen't cut it!

  • @Neceros
    @Neceros 3 роки тому

    I'm envious of all your awesome tools

  • @timhottinger2166
    @timhottinger2166 5 років тому +4

    I have a 4in1 bucket on my cat 420dit. The thing is great for claming up the last load of dirt .
    Stops you from chasing it around.

  • @josephvilla7359
    @josephvilla7359 6 років тому +5

    Good demo

  • @BradleyKang23
    @BradleyKang23 3 роки тому

    I have the same exact hydraulic leak on my 742, gonna try welding a new fitting on the metal line too. Great Idea!

  • @robertyouderian169
    @robertyouderian169 5 років тому

    Great bucket for building and grading roads, clearing also.

  • @dustinpryde3121
    @dustinpryde3121 6 років тому +7

    And watch those hoses. Run them up through the ring on the side of the arm. Sometimes you have to twist them around to get the loop up in the air.

  • @BOBCAT2001ify
    @BOBCAT2001ify 5 років тому +5

    Love the video- Especially the part with the Hoses- My family owns a hydraulic and industrial hose company out of Medford Massachusetts- So all that hose stuff interest me - And if that shop couldn’t have done the bent tube (we have a day or 2 turn around time on bent tube) you could’ve had them make that section of tube out of hose (run the hose around the tubing and around the bends to get a measurement) and add a little extra length to make up for the bends that way you’d have one continuous hose- I’m guess that’s -12 or -10 JIC thread. It wouldn’t be optimal but it definitely would’ve worked and eliminated having to cut and weld that tube. We do hoses sometimes that way especially if the guy doesn’t want to wait for the bent tube and thinks using hose would work. Great video as usual!

    • @AndrewCamarata
      @AndrewCamarata  5 років тому +3

      Thanks, good advice. I have replaced pre-bent hoses in the past with rubber. In this case I didn't feel it would have worked because of tight clearances with moving parts. That's why it got fixed the way it did. Its still working well.

  • @oldbakedpotato
    @oldbakedpotato 4 роки тому

    In 1985 I had a new 743 with the 4-in1. Sweet setup. Not much shovel work when done cleaning up the that.

  • @jlucasound
    @jlucasound 4 роки тому

    You are showing us the limits of the Bobcat so no one else has to go through this. You are a Saint!
    Don't get me wrong, Bobcats are awesome machines.

  • @txwizkid
    @txwizkid 6 років тому +16

    I'll bet that moment at 26:01 made it interesting in the cab of the truck...

    • @mammothfire
      @mammothfire 3 роки тому +2

      I suppose you could call brown stained seats "interesting".

  • @ohhpaul7364
    @ohhpaul7364 6 років тому +5

    When you are trying to grade with the bulldozer, I was taught to open the bucket most of the way, set the back edge down on the ground and the "front" edge of the clam on the ground level with it, then do your pushing. Much like when you do a back drag to get a scoop but just with both edges on the ground and going forward instead. The way that clamshell is designed, if you back drag over a stump to hard it will bow the middle of the bucket. Those pistons did look a bit to small diameter. If you are yanking small trees out of the ground with it, grab them somewhat centered on where quick attach bracket connects to the bucket, close the clam enough to grip the tree but not cut it off, then drive a bit forward while rolling the bucket back and up. Also for the bulldozer blade, you just have to get the hang of where the blade is by looking at where the back of the bucket is touching the ground. On the Takeuchi I used, you could tell by looking at the outsides of the quick attach at the ground. I am an expert with the machine by no means, but I hope these words help. you may have bought a bucket that is just a bit to big even for your tracked machine. perhaps you don't have enough hydraulic pressure for what is needed for that bucket? letsdig18 has some videos of grading like I mentioned too, if you want to look them up on here.

  • @shanegrangrad8559
    @shanegrangrad8559 5 років тому

    Very clever young bloke . Lots of knowledge . I hate hydraulics too . The amount of hard lines Iv replaced with flex pressure hose . Just like you cut the ends off mig weld them to the new hose fitting . End of problem

  • @FreakinCoolUsermane
    @FreakinCoolUsermane 6 років тому +1

    dang dude your really starting to build a list of equipment. Im getting excited!

  • @williamlemaire9882
    @williamlemaire9882 6 років тому +252

    A bigger Bobcat perhaps

    • @michaelmactavish1728
      @michaelmactavish1728 6 років тому +9

      the big svl 90-2 is a huge 90.2 hp skidsteer

    • @Graveltrucking
      @Graveltrucking 6 років тому +8

      Where I work we've got a SVL75 its big enough

    • @aidansharples7751
      @aidansharples7751 5 років тому +7

      And no electric hyraulic controls.

    • @michaelmactavish1728
      @michaelmactavish1728 5 років тому +6

      no kubota has heavy duty hydrulic system no electric controls wich my buddy has 2 svl 75-2's wich lifts heavier materials plus kubota skid steer arms are more longer and solid strong stable skidsteers out plus dealers of kubota takes $2500 off

    • @cdouglas1942
      @cdouglas1942 5 років тому +14

      Several months later after Bobcat trouble he says hes going to sell both. Considering Takeguchi (?), well recommended.

  • @retrofitter
    @retrofitter 6 років тому +25

    To fix the bucket opening problem, cut the yokes off the bucket along the welds and weld them on slightly tipped backwards. It won't open as far but it would make it work for what you want. It will only cost you time and welding materials

    • @TheMitchbassman
      @TheMitchbassman 5 років тому +1

      I thought of that too. It would change the leverage point giving the cylinder more mechanical advantage

    • @neilgelinas9926
      @neilgelinas9926 5 років тому +1

      I would move the cyliners back but I would make a leverage arm. That would increase the ram power cosniderably.

  • @Clapped_Out_Customs
    @Clapped_Out_Customs 6 років тому

    Hey Andrew absolutely love your videos. I have started my own excavating business partial credit to you and a few other youtubers for giving me the motivation to just go for it. I too just redid all my drive motor lines on my 1994 743b. I went with compression fittings and all went well. Never thought of welding them but dont see why it would be an issue.

    • @AndrewCamarata
      @AndrewCamarata  6 років тому +1

      Yeah, good to hear. That thing isn't leaking now.

  • @brianpercival1829
    @brianpercival1829 4 роки тому

    Right tool for the right job. One thought I had was a quick removable rod mounted to the cage roof with a camera on the end out so you can see the blade. Small tablet with Bluetooth to pick up the camera feed. You could see the action on the blade.

  • @llibeel
    @llibeel 5 років тому +4

    The arm beyond the hinge on the bucket that connects to the top of the hydraulic cylinder needs to be longer. It's not using the advantages of a lever.

  • @michaelovitch
    @michaelovitch 6 років тому +20

    Are you sure both hydraulic lines for the bucket work at the same pressure ?
    No tuning possible on pressure limiters ?
    Can't you simply shorten the old bucket for the small bobcat and install a serviceable cutting edge ?

    • @theycallmefranco
      @theycallmefranco 5 років тому

      I was thinking the same thing about the lines. He switched the lines. Wonder if that has something to do with it.

  • @COYO-T
    @COYO-T 5 років тому +1

    Root Grapple is a good bucket for moving brush and no dirt.Where I work we make these and the Grapple Bucket to move brush and dirt as well.I really do enjoy watching your videos so don't take any of my comments negatively.I don't like seeing after market attachments of Bobcat skid steers.

  • @derekbest9703
    @derekbest9703 6 років тому +2

    25:58 - Damn bud i thought this video was gonna be cut short. good stuff

  • @JimsEquipmentShed
    @JimsEquipmentShed 6 років тому +33

    Ha! ha! love it man, warts and all. Hey, I've NEVER gotten stuck on a job site...... (At least not on video, because I'm perfect..... ;-)
    Seriously though, I feel your pain with the loader, my little kubota is limited like that with even a one ton. (EDIT: Oh, and when it wouldn't open in the air, well done not dropping F-bombs like I would have......)

  • @07decker
    @07decker 5 років тому +44

    highly recommend getting a heavy duty strap instead of a chain for pulling.
    Too much of a shock load with a chain.

    • @abmorty
      @abmorty 4 роки тому +9

      ditto, just watch the fail channels that have episodes including chain breaks: Human injuries; broken glass; free of charge body modification (auto)...

    • @leewaytoo
      @leewaytoo 4 роки тому +2

      or place an old tire in between -------O------- that will take the shock/stress out of the pull................

    • @hypercube33
      @hypercube33 3 роки тому +2

      Plus you usually end up with all of your limbs if it happens to snap and hit you

    • @retiredinbali9565
      @retiredinbali9565 3 роки тому

      @@leewaytoo Great idea.

    • @leewaytoo
      @leewaytoo 3 роки тому

      @@retiredinbali9565 thank you.... growing up in Alaska, sometimes one gets stuck during break up in the spring.... older sourdoughs taught us young pups that means to avoid the shock to either vehicle.

  • @zgrant231
    @zgrant231 Рік тому

    I was on the fence buying the 72" titan for my 743b. This helped me decide. Thank you!

    • @AndrewCamarata
      @AndrewCamarata  Рік тому +1

      You probably didn’t after watching this.

    • @zgrant231
      @zgrant231 Рік тому

      @@AndrewCamarata correct. I know it's an older video but it saved my ass. I'm now looking at buckets with 2.5" and 3" diamiter cylinders. Thanks Andrew!

    • @AndrewCamarata
      @AndrewCamarata  Рік тому +2

      The 4 in 1 thing is worthless, get a normal bucket, a demo grapple bucket, and a root grapple bucket.

  • @coreyfrasnelly7364
    @coreyfrasnelly7364 5 років тому

    I own a Napa store and we make hoses and those bobcat style with the metal tubing are a pain in the ass....but you sure have eliminated that pain. Now I know what to tell my customers if the have a welder 👍🏻

  • @RolandElliottFirstG
    @RolandElliottFirstG 6 років тому +3

    Even on the bigger machines the buckets take a lot to open , it may be the rams on this bucket are to small a diameter bore, hence less power to open, the Ram bore on the buckets are quite large for opening the bucket, so it is slow opening but has more power. The pivot point on the bucket running off the top of the rams are also longer than what I have seen normally which also reduces the opening power.
    The other think is to flick the bucket back when its loaded with material to get the weight of the material to the back of the bucket, then you can fit more in it, also another way is to open the bucket and grab the material, this will fill the bucket also, but you may have to spill some out of the front of the bucket. I am suprised they don't have the teeth on the outer corners, most do have.

  • @AttitudeAdjuster
    @AttitudeAdjuster 5 років тому +8

    Operator problems, Spend allot more time with the bucket and you will get better, Grapple is totally different in both operational design, it would be like you comparing the Grapple for picking up dirt to the dirt Bucket, Here in Australia No machines are bought with GP buckets, With 4 In 1's we use Spreader bars and this leaves your machines for Dead, you will bend the floor of 4 in 1's in picking up large Rocks, Good Quality Buckets here won't bend but yours doesn't have good enough Cylinders to open or Grab but I would also guess that the hinge points won't work well if the rams were up sized. Your operational skill is not far off from getting much better with it, I can tell you that if you do persevere then you would never go back, But I think in the States from what I have seen is that no one Knows how to use them Correctly so everyone gives up and I would say most are just missing the operational methods by just a little bit. Best of Luck and enjoy you video's

    • @jemfly1062
      @jemfly1062 5 років тому

      Attitude Adjuster, it's interesting, isn't it? Americans don't seem to use 4 in 1s, and I've very rarely seen a spreader bar being used on any of their machines. Here in Oz, every operator has a 4 in 1 and one correctly sized for the machine, and they mostly do very good work with them. The 4 in 1 which Andrew bought certainly looks too big for that machine.

  • @dennisconlon5810
    @dennisconlon5810 4 роки тому

    I had a 4in1 bucket for my mini skid steer. I was so happy when I got that bucket, used it a few times and never used it again. It just didn’t do what I thought it would do. So after that I bought a hydraulic drop off bucket. With that bucket I could dump the load on the other side of the truck and be able to fill the hole truck from one side to the other.

  • @craigpalmer5693
    @craigpalmer5693 4 роки тому

    Replace everything on equipment young men has experience in machine make your job easy awesome video keep up the good work friend bless you

  • @owenscheider1874
    @owenscheider1874 6 років тому +25

    He wasnt stuck, just couldnt move

  • @ToTheTopCrane
    @ToTheTopCrane 6 років тому +95

    You are going to hate that bucket until you put it on a different machine. Also, not a fan of welded on cutting edges. You may want to check your auxiliary hydro pressure by snapping a gauge on your quick connectors.

    • @sandy1653
      @sandy1653 6 років тому +19

      You used to be a heavy equipment Mechanic Jimmy, what would you say to maybe flipping the bucket open cylinders 180 degrees so instead of opening with the rod end, you're opening with the barrel end so you get the full grunt?

    • @ToTheTopCrane
      @ToTheTopCrane 6 років тому +11

      Sandy, if the space allows, I absolutely would. That's a great idea.

    • @ToTheTopCrane
      @ToTheTopCrane 6 років тому +7

      Sandy, if Andrew wants me to, I can do the math on it and tell him how much force would be generated with them mounted 180.

    • @ToTheTopCrane
      @ToTheTopCrane 6 років тому +3

      The only adverse effects that I could see would be the barrel moving up and down along with the hoses and fittings, as opposed to being stationary, and the clamping force when used as a grapple would be reduced.

    • @sandy1653
      @sandy1653 6 років тому +2

      For the way Andrew seems to want to use the contraption, I suspect the trade-off between actually being able to open it mid-air and grapple clamping force (which it looks about useless at anyhow) would probably be worth it. At least that's what I'd be doing if it were my bucket.

  • @timedvrodlehnen8448
    @timedvrodlehnen8448 3 роки тому +1

    Yes a smaller bucket or more horsepower. I have a 1989 743 I love it 31 years and running strong, I use it under houses took off cage to make low profile..

  • @dennisconlon5810
    @dennisconlon5810 5 років тому

    Hello I have a mini skid steer and it came with a 4 in 1 bucket. I used it for a short time till I bought a drop off bucket which I use all the time now. The great part of that bucket is it will dump the dirt on the other side of the truck, which makes it so easy and quick to load the truck. I have four buckets all together and use that one the most.

  • @huckmiller1971
    @huckmiller1971 5 років тому +16

    It's the geometry , the way the cylinders are mounted ! They are mounted to squeeze , not to open up loaded !

    • @jacksprat7087
      @jacksprat7087 4 роки тому

      Huck Miller yes. Move the pins backward about 3” and possibly get bigger cylinders.

    • @mwilliamshs
      @mwilliamshs 3 роки тому

      More leverage is more leverage. Weak opening doesn't mean strong clamping. It's the same cylinders on the same bucket in the same orientation. More opening strength means more clamping strength.

    • @huckmiller1971
      @huckmiller1971 3 роки тому

      mwilliamshs when you push a car out of the ditch , do you push on the side or the back ? I. I the top of the Eyes is max push . As it rolls over , the push diminishes , because it shortens the leverage !

    • @mwilliamshs
      @mwilliamshs 3 роки тому

      So the difference you're referring to, the highest concentration of force within the pin's circumference, is less than 3/4" from its polar opposite. You really think 3/4" of bias toward pinch vs open is significant?

    • @huckmiller1971
      @huckmiller1971 3 роки тому

      mwilliamshs no that is not what I'm saying .

  • @BarnStangz
    @BarnStangz 6 років тому +8

    Can you bump up the hydraulic pressure on that smaller machine without breaking anything? Since the machine is old, do you think the pumps are worn out? That new bucket looks like it works well for grading. Good honest review on this bucket.

  • @dieselfuel6006
    @dieselfuel6006 5 років тому

    You sure helped me out. I was about to order one until I watched ur video. 👍👍

  • @RobiSydney
    @RobiSydney 5 років тому

    On the 863 I was using and on the 443 I welded Chain hooks on the Arm towers. I then could hang the solid tires we have for the 863 for counter weight. I could use 2 on the 443 to counter balance. The relief valves for the Aux hydraulics can be made to go higher in pressure.

  • @loviedebiasio8864
    @loviedebiasio8864 6 років тому +6

    I was thinking the dirt looked like it was moist and sticky. then you did say that.

  • @TheCitroenman1
    @TheCitroenman1 6 років тому +12

    i think with you're fabrication skills you should make a cam bucket you're welding is good

  • @jaymanxxxx
    @jaymanxxxx 4 роки тому

    love them grapple buckets I used one of those demo grapple buckets to pick up large square bails in a paper recycling plant. on a bobcat 250 two speed.

  • @MrDugbo171
    @MrDugbo171 6 років тому +1

    I have an original 60" Bobcat brand 4in1 on my 743.
    Opens and closes with anything in the bucket.
    Bites a 2x4 in half with jaw.
    A touch heavy to load wet material at full height but 1000% better than the thing you bought.
    Looks like teeth were an afterthought on yours, they should always be at full width of bucket angled a few degrees outwards.
    I honestly think you will learn to hate that thing in no-time.
    Hopefully the cutting edges are all easily replaceable like they are on the Bobcat brand, once you wear the heel down from dozing the bucket will leak material.
    Sometimes "cheap" stuff on ebay is exactly that.......
    Great video and good luck :)

  • @CoastConcreteCorp
    @CoastConcreteCorp 6 років тому +9

    That bucket is too heavy for the 743B. The 864 should open it with no issue, I think the bucket pistons are too weak, as you mentioned in the video they’re undersized. I have an 843 and use the 4 in 1 and even with wet sticky clay it opens right up. Just be cautious of your tracks, the bucket is too narrow and you could damage the sides of the tracks. Best of luck to you, keep the vids coming they’re great.

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      @spencerbishop554 5 років тому

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    • @spencerbishop554
      @spencerbishop554 5 років тому

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  • @FastEddie007007
    @FastEddie007007 6 років тому +140

    Kind of like a mail order bride, she might look pretty good in a picture but you don't know what you have till after the marriage.

    • @zbudda
      @zbudda 6 років тому +34

      Charles Shanafelt. Especially when she wont spread open under load...

    • @calireu
      @calireu 6 років тому +2

      Charles Shanafelt It’s not the same to see her in the street than living with her

    • @mjethier
      @mjethier 6 років тому

      Huh?

    • @kathyzeilinga258
      @kathyzeilinga258 5 років тому

      Charles Shanafelt g

    • @donniecoleman1324
      @donniecoleman1324 4 роки тому

      Charles Shanafelt

  • @realmoronosity5956
    @realmoronosity5956 6 років тому +1

    I feel bad that a new bucket you bought doesn’t work the way it should. That really sucks and I hope you can make it work or fix it. Love the videos. Keep up the good work!

  • @1bertski
    @1bertski 5 років тому +1

    You just got to get use to it. I don’t have problems like you. If you’re moving a lot of rubbish or brush you need a different buckets but with dirt or gravel the 4 in 1 is the one you really want.

  • @bighurk30able
    @bighurk30able 6 років тому +8

    Another good video buddy haven't you made enough from UA-cam to go buy a new 4 wheel drive dump truck lol

  • @RickRose
    @RickRose 4 роки тому +6

    So you still have the old house in addition to the castle? I thought you had moved, but you show both properties here. Completely off-topic, but just curious.

  • @forestlawrencegrading9154
    @forestlawrencegrading9154 6 років тому +2

    The 4 in 1 bucket is a good tool on the job site try opening the clam only about 4 to 5 in when using the Dozer blade drag the back of the clam will only allow your Dozer blade to cut so much at a time it won't go gouge in and it works or like a scrapers the dirt will roll forward and fill the bottom sorta like a scraper pan

  • @jenky1044
    @jenky1044 Рік тому

    Great show.
    We have 2 medium and 1 large skid-steers (wheel loaders) made by New Holland. They'll lift the back of a Ford F150 off the ground. They will actually lift more then they can move. Very strong hydraulics. If we ever got another machine, I would love to try a JCB.! Trax are nice (floatation) but tires seem quicker and way cheaper and less parts to wear out.
    I like your channel.!

  • @papaal7014
    @papaal7014 5 років тому +6

    dump a pile next to the truck
    to drive up on
    for higher loading.

    • @jlucasound
      @jlucasound 4 роки тому +1

      I remember guys doing that! It works! (Been decades since I worked construction).

  • @surplusdoctor
    @surplusdoctor 6 років тому +8

    you need a tiny bucket for that machine

  • @michaelpoe981
    @michaelpoe981 4 роки тому

    simply amazing repair talent

  • @michaelault5683
    @michaelault5683 2 роки тому

    I just found your videos I'm loving them keeping coming