Ultimate Small Family CUV? | 2020 Volkswagen Tiguan

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  • Other considerations aside, if you're looking for the most practical small crossover, the Tiguan takes the cake. It's one of the very few small 3-row vehicles in America and it has tons of second row room for child seats or adults. While the third row is small and really should be thought of as an "emergency seat", it has one and you won't find one in a RAV4 or CR-V. The Tiguan is also well priced and has excellent handling. The downside? It doesn't feel as fresh ad the Toyota and fuel economy falls short of some folks' expectations.
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  • @Neanderthal75
    @Neanderthal75 4 роки тому +12

    I finally figured out what that intro reminds me.
    Those old VHS taped safety guidelines shown to new employees for a company or driving school lessons from the 80s.

  • @joshua9073
    @joshua9073 3 роки тому +7

    I own one of these... a 2019. I’ve been across country. I have 18,350 miles today. It has the 3rd row which comes in handy for kids. It’s quiet comfortable solid vehicle that is getting me 30mpg if I drive sensibly. The headlights aren’t wonderful but get the job done. It’s not fast off the line but the torque is good. It has some great safety features and it includes a CD Player in the glovebox. The infotainment screen is 8” and very clear and colorful. The Tiguan has a spray washer nozzle for the rear backup camera. The second row bench slides back n forth 6” which comes in handy and the seat backs recline. Both front seats have map pockets on the back side. All 4 doors have huge carpeted map pockets that hold huge drink or beverage containers. The rear cargo area hauls a lot of cargo too!

  • @8xtime
    @8xtime 4 роки тому +21

    When I'm looking for an informed, unbiased review, this is where I come

  • @stephenhendricks103
    @stephenhendricks103 4 роки тому +6

    My wife and I seriously considered the current generation (US) TIguan about a year and a half ago when we were looking for a replacement for our 2012 Kia Sorento. As a GTI owner (both the MK6 and MK7 generations) I was especially interested in the performance of the Tiguan's EA888 2.0L turbo engine and my wife appreciated the "Golidlocks" size of the Tiguan. We're a family of four; two adults, a teenage daughter, and a big dog. We only rarely need room for more than five but for occasional use, the third row was a welcome feature when we had to chauffeur a gaggle of teens or went on short trips with others that would otherwise require a second vehicle and a second driver.
    My impressions were much the same as Alex's. The driving position, visibility, and handling were excellent. I liked the minimalist aesthetic of the interior and the overall size of the Tiguan. All of those aspects were as reminiscent of my GTI as one could expect in a crossover. And in my case that familiarity was a significantly positive aspect. Unfortunately, my GTI experience also led to disappointment in the Tiguan's performance. I found that I could partially cure the sluggishness VW had built into the Tiguan's detuned version of EA888 engine and the conventional eight speed AT by selecting the "sport" driving mode but it was a halfway fix, at best.
    As it happened we eventually opted for the current generation of the KIA Sorento over the Tiguan (and several alternatives). Other than the replacement of my MK6 GTI with the MK7 version it was the only time in many years of driving that I'd replaced a vehicle with a current version of the same car. The KIA is bit larger than the Tiguan but still meets the "Goldilocks" standard at 189" in length. As a result of its especially efficient packaging the Sorento's interior space is significantly larger than Tiguan. The third row legroom, for example is 31.7" (even a fraction of an inch more than the Telluride) compared to the Tiguan's 27.9". The Tiguan's interior space is generous for its size but the KIA's is even more generous and not much larger externally. Finally, we opted for the 3.3L naturally aspirated V6 in the Sorento vs the 4 cylinder turbo in the Tiguan. As much as I like VW's EA888 engine I felt the larger, less stressed V6 in the KIA (that I knew well from our 2013 Sorento) was a better choice in a two ton plus vehicle.
    Looking back on our decision I think I'd make the same one today. But for those who prefer the Tiguan there is a permanent cure for the performance issue. A Stage I tune from APR, for example, increases the HP and torque of the EA888 engine tremendously without affecting engine durability and in a vehicle with AWD does not significantly impact handling in terms of torque steer. It's an ECU modification that costs about $800 and takes about 30 minutes. Judging from the impact that tune has on my GTI, it's well worth the investment and contrary to claims that it invalidates the VW warranty, it does so only if a modification can be shown to lead to a warranty related failure.

    • @raizt1596
      @raizt1596 3 роки тому

      How much does it drop the fuel economy when upgrading the horsepower like that? Any other negative effects?

  • @toma.5727
    @toma.5727 4 роки тому +6

    I bought one of these brand new back in 2018 as a commuter car for school. It gets better than advertised gas mileage (up 40mpg on the highway). I have the third row and I have to say it’s very handy when having to trot extra friends (the smallest go back there) or kids. Just a shame they ditched the 6 year 72,000 mile warranty for 2020. Glad I bought when I did.

    • @joshua9073
      @joshua9073 3 роки тому

      Same here man! I have the 2019 Tiguan SE with that 6 yr / 72k mile warranty

  • @vincentcardilloiv2256
    @vincentcardilloiv2256 3 роки тому +2

    Love my 2021 Tiquan didn't get it for speed got it for comfort and luxury thank you so much Volkswagen.

  • @autonewstv86
    @autonewstv86 4 роки тому +15

    We have a 2019 Tiguan and that 3rd row has been a lifesaver so many times. The Tiguan gets more use then my Grand Cherokee on long road trips.

    • @paulcu130
      @paulcu130 3 роки тому

      How many km's on your Tiguan and have you had any issues?

  • @IvanBosnjak89
    @IvanBosnjak89 4 роки тому +7

    We love our Tiguan. Handles surprisingly well considering it’s size, is very comfortable and well damped, and the fuel economy blows the EPA estimates out of the water. On a 650km trip we got 6.8L/100km.

  • @bahtalorom
    @bahtalorom 4 роки тому +48

    ....best reviews for anybody who wants some details....great job, man.

    • @user-ir3hf7sd2w
      @user-ir3hf7sd2w 4 роки тому

      Agree

    • @joshua9073
      @joshua9073 4 роки тому

      Alex is the man!

    • @plawson91
      @plawson91 4 роки тому

      Really enjoy your reviews. Detailed, thorough, and to the point. No fluff or wasted time. Good comparisons to other segment competitors.

  • @joshua9073
    @joshua9073 4 роки тому +4

    I have a 2019 Tiguan SE, and I have 16,650 miles to date and I’m still very pleased with it each time I get in and drive anywhere. I took it from my home in Oklahoma City to San Francisco and back. The Tiguan was smooth quiet and comfortable and achieved excellent gas mileage in the mid 30’s. With a large cargo area having 3rd row down and 2nd row down, she swallowed tons of my gear and ice chests and clothes and crap. I drove all the competitors and the Tiguan surprised me and I bought her after the first test drive. To me Tiguan feels and drives like a more expensive vehicle. No regrets and I heavily recommend one. My only regret is not spending more for a trim level with LED headlights & power rear lift gate. So go for SEL Premium, you’ll get the digital instrument cluster and panoramic moonroof and wireless phone charger and high end sound system. I’m not sure if VW is offering ventilated seats on any Tiguan for 2020 or a 360 degree around view camera system. But you get remote start real leather and VW Car-Net for 5 years at $0 charge and it has some awesome convenience features. The Tiguan rides more like a car and it’s very solidly built and it’s just the right size, not too large & not too small. I do have my eye on the Atlas Cross Sport tho but it’s pricey and gets worse fuel economy and may need more power than that V6 provides. I’m worried about depreciation on that one too because it’s sticker goes well into the mid 50’s which is a lot! Get a Tiguan. Tiguan only requires regular gasoline and not premium. Plus the warranty is better than the other manufacturers outside of Hyundai / Kia.

  • @davetravels9273
    @davetravels9273 4 роки тому +8

    My mother finally bought a new car after 15 years, and picked up a Tiguan SE FWD for 24k --a steal! She has been averaging between 28-30 mpg in Texas. I told her to buy a CR-V, but she liked the way the VW drives so much more, and the price made it a bargain. If you run the numbers, the mpg penalty with the VW do not make the Honda and Toyota the more economical choice, it would take more than 5 years to make that up, especially if you invest the difference--maybe never. I would happily take the mpg hit for the better handling car, but then I drive a 10 year old Volvo V70 (wagon) with the 2.5 turbo (euro-spec), that might get 23 mpg. I value handling, safety and practicality over mpg. :P

    • @JohnDoe-xr5is
      @JohnDoe-xr5is 4 роки тому +1

      You didn't factor in the towing and repair bills for the VW...and the aggravation that goes along with them.

    • @OMGWTFLOLSMH
      @OMGWTFLOLSMH 4 роки тому

      Everybody knows the Mazda CX-5 Signature Turbo is the best handling, best looking and has the nicest interior in its class. Plus it's made in Japan, which is a no brainer.

    • @davetravels9273
      @davetravels9273 4 роки тому +1

      OMGWTFLOL I like the Mazda as well but it is significantly smaller, which is an issue for families. Plus the version you cite is over $37k, another issue for families.

    • @davetravels9273
      @davetravels9273 4 роки тому

      John Doe it depends on the car. We have owned several VWs for more than 10 years and more than 200k miles with minimal repairs, no more than the Honda and Toyota’s we have owned. The key is having either a good Indy shop or the dealer do the maintenance. Of course there are a few models with known issues, but the Tiguan is fairly basic. My mother has had her Tiguan for nearly 2 years, and the only repair item has been a dead battery in the key fob and 2 service bulletins. But no real issues.

  • @thebigskyguy
    @thebigskyguy 2 роки тому +1

    Love our 2021 Tiguan SEL. We've been getting way better fuel economy than you represented. 30 MPG usually on highway. It handles well. Is very quiet interior. I'm not sure why people keep saying it's under powered. In sport mode it's a rocket. I do wish the interior was a tad more luxurious. The blacks and grays, plastics aren't that attractive.

  • @mattbots1
    @mattbots1 4 роки тому +11

    Good video as always. But man VW really botched the powertrain in this. It's bad enough that they're encroaching in Hyundai/Kia territory for worst combination of performance and fuel economy here.

  • @TheGbeecher
    @TheGbeecher Місяць тому

    I ❤ love my '19 sel premium...good handling and decent power, roomy and comfortable interior, quiet and smooth ride and impressive gas ⛽️ mileage...( I average 26-27 with city/hwy driving)

  • @Ryan57Garr
    @Ryan57Garr 4 роки тому +10

    I test drove one of these last summer. It’s a very nice vehicle, love the responsive infotainment. However, the underpowered engine was a deal breaker for me. It’s a shame because getting the SE with pano roof and faux leather seats would have been a nice car at a bargain. However, Mazda is what we bought instead and I couldn’t be happier!

    • @afcgeo882
      @afcgeo882 4 роки тому +2

      The CX-5 is just as sluggish.

    • @ACitizenOfOurWorld
      @ACitizenOfOurWorld 4 роки тому +1

      @@afcgeo882 Not the CX-5 turbo S version. 0-60 in 6.4sec vs 8.3s for the older model

    • @afcgeo882
      @afcgeo882 4 роки тому +3

      ACitizenOfOurWorld You can’t compare the two because of price. The Tiguan SE costs $28 and the cheapest CX-5 turbo costs $35k. You can only compare the Tiguan SE ($28,395) to the CX-5 Touring (AWD) trim, which costs $28,230. The Tiguan does 0-60 in 8.2 seconds and the CX-5 in 8.3. The CR-V does it in 7.5 seconds.

    • @joshua9073
      @joshua9073 4 роки тому

      George L wrong George: sounds like you are just slobbering rubbish here. Do your research and stop spewing fake news.

    • @joshua9073
      @joshua9073 4 роки тому

      George L still wrong. You have all kinds of numbers wrong. Sheesh

  • @MacSaab93
    @MacSaab93 4 роки тому +1

    When I was shopping for a small(ish) crossover last year I only looked at the Rav4, Honda CR-V and Hyundai Santa Fe. The Tiguan didn't even make the shopping list because of a prior bad experience with a VW Passat and it's lack of reliability/exorbitant repair cost and mundane styling inside and out. Ended up getting a Santa Fe 2.0T for its more powerful engine and larger interior. Loving it!

  • @joshua9073
    @joshua9073 4 роки тому +1

    When I bought my Tiguan in April of 2019 I didn’t want the 3rd row and couldn’t find one without the option at my local Oklahoma City dealer. But I’ve accepted it and it’s folded down into the floor. I live the Tiguan and it’s ability to swallow all of my cargo and still haul around me and 4 others. It’s quiet smooth and comfortable. No regrets in buying this. I have 16,600 miles to date and took her from Oklahoma City to California and back and it handled the mountains of Colorado and busy highways of California without event. I even found some old CD’s to play in her CD player lol. That was nostalgic!

  • @belakerkay1414
    @belakerkay1414 4 роки тому +3

    I have a 2019 Tiguan and I get over 30 mpg easily on the highway without even trying. Even while doing 70-75 mph. And recently I’ve been getting 33-34 when doing 65-70.

    • @joshua9073
      @joshua9073 4 роки тому +3

      Same here I have a 2019 and got up to 36mpg driving from Oklahoma City to California

    • @joshua9073
      @joshua9073 3 роки тому +2

      I do too!! I also have a 2019! I am very happy

    • @loyaltyfamilyfirst
      @loyaltyfamilyfirst 2 роки тому

      How is it on parts?....price range

    • @belakerkay1414
      @belakerkay1414 2 роки тому +1

      @@loyaltyfamilyfirst I don’t know. Didn’t have to buy any parts for it.

  • @jorn978
    @jorn978 4 роки тому +2

    I own a 2020 tiguan and MPG is odd with this car. I drive about %70 highway and have the SE model with skinnier tires and 4motion and average 31 mpg. The tiguan hates city driving and gets horrible gas milage in the city but if you drive a lot of back roads or highways it does pretty good

  • @darienmiller1032
    @darienmiller1032 4 роки тому +3

    When i think of a compact car with a third row, the Mazda5 comes to mind. I wish they still sold with the current styling, a 2nd row bench and AWD.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 4 роки тому

      Totally. I think in other parts of the world, MPVs are still quite popular, but westerners just seem to idolize the CUV.

  • @SG-sz5vh
    @SG-sz5vh 3 роки тому +1

    I just rented a tiguan se awd for three months and 8k miles. Lots of around town driving tho most on interstate and secondary roads . The states i drove in had 70-75 mph limits but most of the time it was 80-85mph, often in The mountains of Tennessee and Pennsylvania and w. Virginia. The worst mpg i got was 27 and the best 32. They were outliers. Almost every tank was 28-29 mpg. I was not disappointed with the mpgs. Last year i drove a mazda cx9 xcty and only avg’d 24mpg somi think the tiguan did alright. Btw i have a lead foot. Lol

  • @csuao
    @csuao 4 роки тому +1

    I got my Tiguan S in 2018 with 4Motion so I don't have the useless 3rd row. I haven't had any problems with the car. I love driving it, sometimes the car struggles at lower speeds, but it has good passing power. We bought it because of the space inside. Tall genes run in the family and this car blows any of the competition. My lease expires in December and I'm probably going to upgrade to the SE as these grey cloth seats in the S trim STAIN very very easily. Drops of water = stain.

  • @gene978
    @gene978 4 роки тому +3

    Remember the tiny 3rd row seats in the Taurus/Sable Wagon’s, and Celebrity, Centry, Cutless Wagon’s in the 80’s and Taurus through the 90’s?

    • @afcgeo882
      @afcgeo882 4 роки тому

      Those had more legroom. The Mercedes wagons still have them, since then.

  • @oryochanan
    @oryochanan 4 роки тому +4

    This is the most underrated "Compact" SUV in the market.
    It got tons of room, largest cargo in the segment, all the important features, "emergency" 3 row which is *amazing* for those of us who get sometimes family visits, German build quality and 6 years of warranty - all of that without paying any special premium when accounting for the very fair MSRP.
    I'm always amazed to see it being forgotten by reviewers, that will prefer CX5 because of driving dynamics or Crosstrek because of "offroad". I mean, do you really get a family crossover for dynamics/offroading capabilities...? Give me a break.
    Family crossovers are first and foremost for families, with that in mind + value proposition, the Tiguan is easily in the top3 of the segment.

    • @seb.
      @seb. 4 роки тому

      @@ThePabloG30 weak engine? it sells with 125hp in Europe (and 150hp)
      8.6s on 0-60 is it really that bad to get stuck in a jam half a mile after?

    • @seb.
      @seb. 4 роки тому

      @@ThePabloG30 didn't test drive the RAV4, but the interior didn't feel as good. glad you like it, everyone choose with his priorities 😎

    • @seb.
      @seb. 4 роки тому

      @@ThePabloG30 get a bicycle 😂

    • @dforrest4503
      @dforrest4503 4 роки тому

      @or yochanan You’re the Fox New of facts. 1) The CR-V has more cargo room. 2) The 3-row Tiguan isn’t made in Germany, so it would have Mexican build quality. 3) The warranty is four years, not six years.

    • @joshua9073
      @joshua9073 3 роки тому

      D Forrest wrong !!! I own a 2019 and the Volkswagen offered 6 years / 72,000 miles. Don’t start reporting like CNN

  • @kristianhermann5971
    @kristianhermann5971 4 роки тому +6

    The headroom in that thing is nuts! You could sit in the back with an afro and not mess your hair LOL

    • @joshua9073
      @joshua9073 4 роки тому +1

      Lol my black friends do

  • @af8525
    @af8525 3 роки тому +4

    You have the best car reviews, hands down!

  • @josiasfarfan7910
    @josiasfarfan7910 4 роки тому +1

    I own a 2018 Tiguan S, and and 2019 RAV4 XLE and there is not much difference in combined mpg. Tiguan I get 25-29 mpg while on RAV4 27-30 mpg. I actually track mileage monthly on a spreadsheet not with the built in calculator. Personally I prefer the acceleration and handling of a Tiguan. It does not feel slow as he states...

  • @Tim3TTT
    @Tim3TTT 4 роки тому +1

    This is reason why you need VW Tiguan, 7 seats , 3rd row for kid only or people at front all over up little bit so all row has enough space for . Underpowered ? Never. You like more power just test or drive with sport mode. Which brand has best price like just the SE trim, leather seat, 7 seats, panorama sunroof, air door back seat, both front seat have heat features and a lot more. I bought 2019 se and I have 6 years warranty. No complaint , no issue drive it one year already. OTD about 25-26k .

  • @katanamast279
    @katanamast279 3 роки тому +1

    I'm thinking about picking up a 2021 VW Tiguan SE-R Line for 30k. I really like the vehicle. It just needs an ECU tune to be great. I also might swap in the digital dash for around $800 DIY. I do with it had the powered liftgate though.

  • @devilsrighthandman769
    @devilsrighthandman769 4 роки тому +2

    As far as 3rd row seats, better to have them and not need them than the other way around.

  • @darabu.julhaz6955
    @darabu.julhaz6955 Рік тому

    Alex, I often find your auto review is complete or detailed which is very helpful for potential buyers👍, unlike other youtubers 👎

  • @rightlanehog3151
    @rightlanehog3151 4 роки тому +8

    Alex, It looks like the RAV4 #Hybrid won another comparison.

    • @stephenhendricks103
      @stephenhendricks103 4 роки тому +1

      That depends on whether you value fuel economy or an occasional use third row seating more highly.

  • @jrunestone
    @jrunestone 4 роки тому +3

    I have the allspace (eu) with the third row extra seats and we thought we'd never use them, but since getting it two months ago we've used them twice...

  • @joetacchino4470
    @joetacchino4470 4 роки тому +20

    Can you really call it small anymore? It’s within 2” I’m length of a first gen Touareg!

    • @stephenhendricks103
      @stephenhendricks103 4 роки тому +3

      You're right about the length comparison. In fact, the Tiguan we get in America is only about 3" less than the 2nd generation Touareg sold in Europe. But that doesn't take into consideration the different standards North Americans and Europeans apply to the size of their vehicles. The first generation Tiguan, no longer sold in the US but still available in Europe (174.5" long) is at the the long end of what Americans consider a "subcompact." crossover while Europeans think of it as being in the "compact" category with a couple of even smaller crossovers beneath it. The American Tiguan, known as the Tiguan Allspace (or the Tiguan-L) in Europe is considered to be a midsize vehicle and the Touareg at a bit over 188" is considered a "large" SUV. The Atlas, built and Tennessee and not sold in Europe would be considered monstrously large by European standards.
      At 185" long the Tiguan is definitely a "tweener" in North America where the bulk of compact crossovers range from about 179" (CX-5) to 182" long (Forester) and the midsize category begins at 188" (Santa Fe, Ford Edge) and goes all the way to about 203" in length (the Chevy Traverse.) Arguably, it's either the longest compact crossover or the shortest midsize SUV. Nevertheless, based on extensive experience that Americans prefer larger versions of their vehicles. (e.g. Passat, Jetta, Atlas, Cross Sport, etc.), VW markets the American Tiguan as a compact SUV and sets its MSRP accordingly.

    • @joshua9073
      @joshua9073 4 роки тому

      It fits all my crap so it’s not small it’s medium and not too big

    • @joshua9073
      @joshua9073 4 роки тому

      Stephen Hendricks dang that’s quite a dissertation! Are you an engineer by chance? Nobodys comments anywhere are as analytical as yours. I don’t think that you are bored by writing these lengthy analysis on any of the car channels I’m guessing it’s a hobby. I enjoy reading them and by now I would know it’s you even if I didn’t read the name lol. I like to always give you a hard time after I read it all. Hope you don’t mind lol. It’s good entertainment when I’m up at all hours of the night. I own a 2019 Tiguan so I’m qualified to speak on its behalf, I’m please with what I have. It’s a lot of value for the $24,300 I paid. I drove so many other vehicles. I didn’t want a CVT. And I don’t buy domestics. I almost pulled the trigger on a Hyundai Santa Fe. I wanted a Volvo but didn’t have the budget for it. I have no regrets. As long as I dip into the throttle the Tiguan moves when I need it to. My only mistake was not spending more for the SEL Premium with the LED headlights. The power lift gate would be nice too. I would buy another Tiguan. I’d like a GTI or Golf R but I have back problems that rule out a sedan. Getting out of them hurts me a lot.

  • @EricV485
    @EricV485 4 роки тому +4

    12:30 I would only expect Alex to have a bottle of molasses in his car.

  • @afcgeo882
    @afcgeo882 4 роки тому +1

    You listed the CR-V ground clearance as 6.8” in your comparative diagram. The CR-V’s clearance is 7.8 in FWD and 8.2 in AWD (fully laden).

  • @Tinrs80
    @Tinrs80 4 роки тому +1

    you said that right.. back seat im these are small but sometimes you and co workers run to lunch and someone could get back there side ways for just a few still. yes agree should be option at least.

  • @tjs114
    @tjs114 4 роки тому

    We went with the Sorento when we shopped last. The third row wasn't really of interest, but the cargo space was with it folded down. Also, since the temperatures out here often hit the 100F range, being able to turn up the rear a/c and pulling the cargo cover shut lets our groceries stay cooler for the 20 mile drive home from the closest big box store. The 10 year warranty and bell & whistles available are a perk too, and Kia offers pricing specials often- we got nearly $5k off our with Kia rebate programs.

  • @90goatsgaming15
    @90goatsgaming15 Рік тому

    My father recently got this beauty im loving it actually

  • @bobdillard4913
    @bobdillard4913 4 роки тому +1

    I bought a Santa Fe. Did not like the cabin noise of the RAV4. Tiguan lacked features. Very happy with the Santa Fe limited.

  • @FantomLightning
    @FantomLightning 4 роки тому +12

    VW has finally understood what the typical American wants. Big and cheap.

    • @robertduklus6555
      @robertduklus6555 4 роки тому +5

      well that happened long time ago when NA market specific jetta was created, followed by the NA specific Passat and shitbox on wheels called Atlas.

    • @FantomLightning
      @FantomLightning 4 роки тому +3

      @@robertduklus6555 Oh I'm not saying it was super recent, it's just now their entire line here is basically adapted to that ethos now.

    • @robertduklus6555
      @robertduklus6555 4 роки тому +5

      @@FantomLightning i got it> Interesting that if an NAmerican car goes on sale in Europe its highly upgraded vs the domestic product and opposite happens when European cars come here, the interior panels are lower standard, brakes are less powerfull etc. Only motors are more hp in base models for NA market.

    • @KyprosEc
      @KyprosEc 4 роки тому +2

      And a car that will constantly break because of the poor quality that VW delivers.

    • @afcgeo882
      @afcgeo882 4 роки тому +1

      Robert Duklus That’s not how that happens or works, buddy.
      North American cars that are sold in Europe are actually very downgraded (which is why they don’t sell well) and fitted with terrible, almost aftermarket Diesels because in NA we don’t design cars with Diesel in mind.
      When European cars are made and designed in Europe, they come fully equipped as luxury cars because their price would have to be so high (to account for high manufacturing prices of Europe and tariffs) that they would be competing in the luxury segment. That’s why VW moved their NA manufacturing to North America and why the Golf, having now been moved back to Europe, won’t sell here.
      Car prices are generally quite higher in Europe.

  • @jsfbay1
    @jsfbay1 4 роки тому +2

    Frankly I wish the 3rd row was an option in the new Highlander. We just don't need it, and it will live it's entire life folded. I like that the GV80 makes the 3rd row an option...... speaking of the GV80, anyone seen one in the wild? I haven't, and I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, where luxury vehicles are a dime a dozen (and Telsa's are almost more common than a Toyota Corolla) - seriously, on a 15 minute drive, I'll see between a half dozen and a dozen of them. Easily.

    • @Van-Hammer
      @Van-Hammer 4 роки тому +1

      I don't think the GV80 is available for purchase yet. Probably delayed for a bit.

    • @afcgeo882
      @afcgeo882 4 роки тому

      They had a production delay due to the virus.

  • @superlight47
    @superlight47 4 роки тому +1

    Love all your reviews Alex. love you comparison across the line base on their category and you review them base on what they are design for. Some car reviewers look and judge a vehicle base on what it not design for. For example, I Iook at a review of a person that seem to only review sports cars, doing a review for a Prius, and the guy giggle his way through the review expecting sporty acceleration from a car that design with fuel efficiency in mind

  • @antwanmcclain8909
    @antwanmcclain8909 4 роки тому +2

    I hate the standard headlights on the Tiguan. They make the front end look dated, and makes even the well equipped mid trim look a bit cheap.

    • @antwanmcclain8909
      @antwanmcclain8909 4 роки тому

      @hiroshima thompson also the Pontiac Aztec, and first gen BMW X3

  • @osopolar35
    @osopolar35 3 роки тому

    I’ve been watching reviews recently because I’m looking to purchase soon. I wish I would have found your channel sooner. These are the best reviews and I’ve watched atleast 30 other youtubers. Great job man , hope you are doing well.

  • @LeoTheShortGuy
    @LeoTheShortGuy 4 роки тому +22

    Excellento. Put the mother in-law in the third row.

    • @yiyangcheng
      @yiyangcheng 4 роки тому +2

      Leo the short guy guess you hate our mother in law lol

    • @DoctorSkillz
      @DoctorSkillz 4 роки тому +2

      Put her under the car.

    • @jbwshox
      @jbwshox 4 роки тому +1

      hahahaha

    • @bobratu9029
      @bobratu9029 4 роки тому

      LOOL

    • @joshua9073
      @joshua9073 4 роки тому +1

      That’s what I do

  • @anticalgary
    @anticalgary 4 роки тому +7

    I am curious why you didn’t compare the best selling CX-5 as a competitor? I cross shopped both of these. I liked the interior of the Tiguan but I didn’t like the handling or acceleration. The + - on the gear selector was also backwards as you mentioned. I bought the CX-5 which sacrificed interior and cargo space but I have a much better driving CUV

    • @Ryan57Garr
      @Ryan57Garr 4 роки тому +2

      You made the right choice. CX-5 is the best! I’ve been a repeat Mazda buyer since 2011 and they probably have me for life lol.

    • @harrisonmackenzie
      @harrisonmackenzie 4 роки тому +2

      If I remember right, when I bought my Tiguan the CX-5 didn’t have CarPlay. That and the lack of back seat space (for car seats - the bigger issue) killed it for me. Otherwise, that would have been the winner.

    • @anticalgary
      @anticalgary 4 роки тому +2

      Harrison MacKenzie yes at the time I bought my 2018 it did not have CarPlay from the factory. They have a retrofit kit and I paid the dealer at purchase to install it. It amazes me that any car does not have it these days. I almost never use my car’s included infotainment and always use CarPlay.

    • @harrisonmackenzie
      @harrisonmackenzie 4 роки тому

      anticalgary 100%. Same boat. Manufacturer’s infotainment just doesn’t compare.

  • @valdius85
    @valdius85 4 роки тому +1

    The only VW I'd buy must have an Aisin trans. DSG is not meant to be driven in the mountains.
    Too bad they are DSG trans in Japan. That will just burn in the mountains.

    • @afcgeo882
      @afcgeo882 4 роки тому

      DSG is terrible in cities too.

    • @valdius85
      @valdius85 4 роки тому +1

      @@afcgeo882 I drove Honda Vezel (HRV ) with dual clutch hybrid for an hour as a tester.
      It was terrible as well. I was fine as it had more low down torque than none-hybrid, but my wife hated the sharp gear changes.
      As soon as I put my foot down it suddenly became as uncomfortable as race-truck sports car.
      I wish Honda would not use dual clutch in their hybrids in Japan.
      The gear selector was annoying as well. I couldn't make it work at the beginning. After I figured it out, the reverse change was slow so it was hard to do parking etc. Tokyo is tight so I often reverse at three stages.
      I wished dual clutch was only used to track vehicle, not ordinary ones.
      In the meantime, Mazda CX-8 with diesel and AT is smooth.

  • @kevinW826
    @kevinW826 4 роки тому

    The rogue up here in Canada never had a third row. If you want a third row, get a minivan. 7 adults with 9 bags Toronto to New York and back.

  • @BTC909
    @BTC909 4 роки тому +1

    I wouldn't buy a Tiguan, but you can find some nice lease deals on these when they are in stock. Also these are made in Mexico.

    • @joshua9073
      @joshua9073 4 роки тому +1

      Yes Mexico and quality has been excellent as bmw executives are camped out in the factories watching every step of assembly. The transmission is still Aison and so on. I financed one and I’m very happy with mine. I was not impressed with the competition. This feels like a class above. My gas mileage is great and the acceleration is more than snappy. I disagree with those who say it’s slow or sluggish.

  • @Natethegreat200c
    @Natethegreat200c 4 роки тому

    Shouldn’t be too rough on the journey. LED interior lighting , nearly 300 HP v6, and a 6 speed trans(like Mazda and some other cars). Backup camera and sensors are good enough for most people tied in with the excellent Uconnect system.

  • @bird718
    @bird718 4 роки тому +1

    when i saw the cargo capacity on the tiguan i had to pause and look up the AoA review on my X3 to see the size difference....

  • @IvanBosnjak89
    @IvanBosnjak89 4 роки тому +1

    Great review. There is a PHEV coming but only in Europe - another glaring miss by VW.

  • @seb.
    @seb. 4 роки тому

    here's its called Tiguan Allspace in France (and definitely not small for us 😉)
    it also had great derivatives: Skoda Kodiaq, Seat Tarraco...

  • @aayonce4
    @aayonce4 4 роки тому

    I just hate how low the screen is and it's on the small side. But this is a nice alternative to the other competition. But you have to get the top of the line one to feel different it is a bit generic in lesser models

    • @joshua9073
      @joshua9073 4 роки тому

      8” isn’t small- yes Kia offers 10.25” now but I have a Tiguan and it’s high and large enough for sure

  • @guizarbg
    @guizarbg 4 роки тому

    The Kia Sorento sounds like the great option that has a usable 3rd row and a roomier interior without boing much bigger or spending much more. It should offer better value, performance and a longer warranty.

  • @alvd8511
    @alvd8511 4 роки тому

    I loved the way this vehicle drove, it was very easy, comfortable, roomy, and the interior was simple and pleasing. I test drove it 3 times and the only reason I didn’t buy it is due to potential long term dependability...

  • @brandonyen7837
    @brandonyen7837 4 роки тому +2

    I would get an R-line in all black .

  • @mauricejefferson1836
    @mauricejefferson1836 4 роки тому

    Bought a CR-V. It has the space of a Tiguan and the gas milage of a RAV4. The Tiguan's gas milage wasn't better than my 2003 V6 Passat wagon.

    • @IvanBosnjak89
      @IvanBosnjak89 4 роки тому

      Surprising, we’ve routinely destroyed the EPA estimates in our Tig. We’ve done better than long trips in our 2020 company RAV4 as well.

  • @TheGbeecher
    @TheGbeecher Місяць тому

    BTW - the slower 0-60 time might have something to do with the fact that the tiguan is HEAVIER, than any other vehicle in its class, with the possible exception, of the Jeep cherokee...🤔😅

  • @DJPleasureSeekingMissle
    @DJPleasureSeekingMissle 4 роки тому +1

    I’d skip on the Tiguan and get an AllTrack. But if I had to buy a CUV, I’d get a CX-5 or spend a bit more and get an XC40.

    • @seb.
      @seb. 4 роки тому

      much less room in the XC40

    • @OMGWTFLOLSMH
      @OMGWTFLOLSMH 4 роки тому

      Volvo is owned by a Chinese company. Hard pass.

    • @DJPleasureSeekingMissle
      @DJPleasureSeekingMissle 4 роки тому

      OMGWTFLOL the car is still built and engineered in Europe.

  • @PTBoehlke
    @PTBoehlke 4 роки тому +1

    Not interested in the car, but very interested in Alex. ;)

  • @robertreeg8212
    @robertreeg8212 5 місяців тому

    How comfortable would you be purchasing this model as a pre-owned vehicle coming off a lease? Is it going to be an expensive car to keep up?

  • @Superfastjellyfish669
    @Superfastjellyfish669 4 роки тому +1

    Didn’t the old Tiguan make over 200hp?

  • @rizzlerazzleuno4733
    @rizzlerazzleuno4733 4 роки тому +1

    Alex, ya can't have your cake (more horsepower) and eat it (better fuel economy) too. I drive a Golf Sportwagen that gets over 40 mpg and may be a bit underpowered for some folks, but I did drive a Tiguan for comparison and the power seemed adequate (of course there was just me in the car), but the lack of a manual transmission (like you can get in other countries) and the mediocre mileage made the Sportwage a better choice for me. The Tiguan is a nice car but VW needs to improve their engines to have a bit more power and better fuel economy. With the current engine a Tiguan should get 30 mpg average. I think the ID4 will be a better car if you can live with an EV. VW does offer PHEV models in other countries so that could be the solution in North America for more power and better fuel economy....like, say....the RAV4 Prime! 😉

    • @seb.
      @seb. 4 роки тому

      in Europe it's even sold with 125 or 150hp

  • @ohcanadaeh
    @ohcanadaeh 4 роки тому +1

    How does it compare to Mazda CX-5 with the 2.5 turbo from a handling and fun-to-drive standpoint ?

    • @Hercegovac.1
      @Hercegovac.1 4 роки тому

      I owned Mazda CX-5, and I just bought VW Tiguan 2019 r line .
      Mazda is very nice car fun to drive but I prefer Tiguan, it’s just slightly better and more interior room 👍

    • @James-il3tq
      @James-il3tq 4 роки тому +1

      They both drive like SUVs. CX5 a little sportier but also rougher ride and less cargo space.

  • @HaNguyen-ci4uw
    @HaNguyen-ci4uw 4 роки тому +5

    Have you noticed how rough the engine sounds?

    • @MrCarpediem6
      @MrCarpediem6 4 роки тому +1

      VWs typically sounds that way

    • @eric3o7
      @eric3o7 4 роки тому +1

      I asked the dealer about that after we got our Tiguan and the Tech explained that it was a cycle (don’t remember the name right now) that VW uses on the non sporty 2.0T that sounds that way up until above 3k rpm then it sounds normal.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 4 роки тому +2

      @@eric3o7 Budack cycle (Atkinson cycle more or less).

    • @eric3o7
      @eric3o7 4 роки тому

      Alan Bowers that’s it. Thanks. 👍

    • @joshua9073
      @joshua9073 4 роки тому

      It’s not rough I own a 2019-

  • @dongidongi
    @dongidongi 4 роки тому +1

    The CR-V has a third row option in other markets. Maybe Honda may bring it some day to the USA.

    • @afcgeo882
      @afcgeo882 4 роки тому +2

      Nah... they don’t sell here. The larger class is too affordable compared to Europe/Asia. People just buy the Passport/Highlander/Ascent/Atlas.

  • @chrisg3780
    @chrisg3780 4 роки тому +21

    Overweight and very underpowered. You used to buy a VW for its audiesque interior and snappy handling. This one is just cheap and oh so slow..

    • @joshua9073
      @joshua9073 4 роки тому +2

      Mine works great but I tip into the the throttle a bit and she wakes up. I don’t disagree with you and I’d love more power ofc but all in all it’s good for trips to Costco in my city and the fast car is in my garage for Sunday afternoons.

    • @neubauerjoseph
      @neubauerjoseph 4 роки тому +2

      Joshua it’s enough power... but some people are expecting to much... of you want more power get a Infiniti or an Audi or an Alfa.

    • @neubauerjoseph
      @neubauerjoseph 4 роки тому +4

      Did a test drive it’s really good handling, sure it’s not fast but it’s not meant to be fast. Most of the cars it’s competes with aren’t ether, it’s a little upmarket nice comfortable suv that drives nice.

    • @Astroinmotion
      @Astroinmotion 3 роки тому +2

      Maybe lose some weight and you get half second faster just saying

  • @jtomtl
    @jtomtl 4 роки тому +9

    VW cutting cost on power, this is bad move vw

    • @joshua9073
      @joshua9073 4 роки тому +3

      The sales number don’t agree with your statement. I bought one, I’m buying another one. And VW is selling tons of these. When VW wasn’t cost cutting they weren’t selling enough cars. People say they want more Luxury in cars but don’t want to pay for it. Same with manual transmissions, people say they want it, but it’s not reflected in sales. So it’s not a bad move. Good thing you don’t work in automotive marketing and design.

    • @jtomtl
      @jtomtl 4 роки тому +1

      Joshua Michael true, which benefits the auto company, the people u mentioned are idiots.... remember people are dumb, individual smart. Like u said, many people don’t want to pay premium for more power or luxury, so VW will just keep selling them the same car over and over again, to make it sounds new and look new, Give it new model year, colours and Apple car play. People crave for That crap. Smart right? I get it.

    • @joshua9073
      @joshua9073 3 роки тому

      Tom Liu I think most manufacturers sell people the same car over & over unless you are speaking of the super premium segment. Most cars have 4 cylinder engines and now many have turbos or CVT’s. There is only so much you can do to keep transportation fresh & exciting. Companies use lots of empty marketing buzzwords- I think of Apple with their neural engines and Bionic chips & Super Retina displays. People (idiots) are paying $1000 or more for the same thing over & over that is incrementally faster with better cameras and new colors.

  • @stephenhendricks103
    @stephenhendricks103 4 роки тому

    Comments regarding the cost cutting in the US version of the Tiguan, known as the "All Space" in Europe, fail to recognize a crucial point. A top trim, fully loaded AWD Tiguan has an MSRP of $40,410 (including AWD and the optional third row of seats) according to VW's "build and price" website. The comparable top trim version in Europe (specifically in the UK) has an MSRP of $60,483 (!) at current exchange rates.The MSRP in Germany and other European nations is virtually the same as the UK price. I don't know what, if any, discounts are available in Europe but in the US, the MSRP is probably about 10% more than the average transaction price at most VW dealers. Bottom line is a price difference of at least $20,000 between the fully loaded, top trim American and European versions of the vehicle.
    VW has repeatedly found that Americans are simply not willing to pay what Europeans pay for VW's. The American version of the Passat is larger and considerably less expensive than the European version. The Touareg, the largest SUV VW offers in Europe is significantly more expensive (and somewhat smaller) than the Atlas, a vehicle that's built in Tennessee and not even offered in Europe. Likewise for the current generation of the Jetta. And American GTI owners have repeatedly complained that the top trim Autobahn version is considerably less featured than the European version. But again, the MSRP of a loaded Autobahn GTI is around $38K. The price of the fully loaded Autobahn in Europe is around $54,000 at current exchange rates.

  • @AB-jk7tw
    @AB-jk7tw 6 місяців тому +1

    Could not be slower even to the point of being dangerous when passengers and luggage are on board.

  • @DoctorSkillz
    @DoctorSkillz 4 роки тому +5

    Halogens are inexcusable in today’s market.

  • @brandonyen7837
    @brandonyen7837 4 роки тому +1

    Alex would you do a compare of a Tiguan Se or Sel 4motion with a Se or Sel R-line 4motion please if you could find a third row I would be happy to watch it . Thank you

    • @joshua9073
      @joshua9073 3 роки тому

      The R-Line is simply an appearance package

  • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
    @imnotusingmyrealname4566 4 роки тому +4

    Isn't the Mercedes-Benz GLB also in the same class with a 3rd row?

  • @joshua9073
    @joshua9073 4 роки тому +1

    Why does everyone expect this thing to be fast? It’s not a GLI or GTI- I own a 2019 Tiguan and it’s plenty quick.

  • @ForeverARide
    @ForeverARide 4 роки тому +1

    Alex your take on these cars are so on point and devoid of bullshit. Thank you.

  • @kiranchaudhari
    @kiranchaudhari 4 роки тому

    I test drove with a third row. It takes a lot of rum, takes away lots of cargo space by having third row seat. I have two seat stroller and by putting third row, I could not get it in. Also, having third row seats, you will loose 2 inch leg room from second row chair. This was no no for me due to rear facing child car seats. I test it with seats and you have to be 5ft5in tall or shorter. If you want third row, go for suv.

    • @joshua9073
      @joshua9073 3 роки тому

      Just fold the 3rd row down. It only changes cubic feet by 2

  • @bfloyd5213
    @bfloyd5213 4 роки тому +1

    4runners seems very out of place in the comparison. Maybe include a real Anerican competitor like an Equinox or Escape ?

    • @damilolaakanni
      @damilolaakanni 4 роки тому

      Plus, the 4runner is a mid sized SUV, not a compact crossover. It doesn't just fit this comparison.

    • @gregorysymes2546
      @gregorysymes2546 4 роки тому +1

      The 4Runner has a 3rd row on some trims is why its included on the comparison.

  • @santhoshkumarranganathan2173
    @santhoshkumarranganathan2173 2 роки тому

    I love your reviews. Can you compare Nissan Rogue with VW Tiguan no one every did this.

  • @silentrefusal9911
    @silentrefusal9911 4 роки тому

    Any explanation for why the Jetta gets a GLi trim and this Tiguan doesn't? I think this is the only SUV in US which is outsold by its sedan counterpart here.

  • @WNYfellow
    @WNYfellow 3 роки тому

    Hi Alex - I realize this review is almost a year old. I really like what I see of the Tiquan. However, I'm also aware that VW is blowing them out the door at cost (ditto for the base Jetta, by the way). What's up with the brand lately?

  • @bretttrowbridge4421
    @bretttrowbridge4421 3 роки тому

    The most in-depth and professional car reviews/reviewer anywhere ^^ Alex on Autos ^^

  • @philippluklas
    @philippluklas 4 роки тому +1

    Surprised you didn’t suggest the CX-5

    • @afcgeo882
      @afcgeo882 4 роки тому

      Because they’re somehow comparable? Is it that they have 4 wheels and doors?

    • @joshua9073
      @joshua9073 4 роки тому

      Z K I love my 2019 tiguan

  • @apache-yaquibrown4060
    @apache-yaquibrown4060 4 роки тому

    Having bought 2 brand new He's Don't unreliable, and very poor support from VW.
    Otherwise a great and informative review

  • @ronaldconiglio9942
    @ronaldconiglio9942 3 роки тому

    The end of video piano music is nice. Who wrote/plays that?

  • @jasoncheung8009
    @jasoncheung8009 4 роки тому

    No mention that there will be a mid model Tiguan refresh coming in late 2021....

  • @prm225
    @prm225 4 роки тому

    How does this compare with a Subaru Forester?

  • @melodycanales802
    @melodycanales802 3 роки тому

    Does the trunk open with car remote button

  • @waynerice4918
    @waynerice4918 4 роки тому +4

    I really like the Tiguan and Atlas too bad there not reliable.

    • @KyprosEc
      @KyprosEc 4 роки тому

      This is how people buy cars these day. Bigger gas guzzlers that are unreliable. They look at everything else other than reliability and gas consumption.

    • @KyprosEc
      @KyprosEc 4 роки тому

      @Z K it's designed for people who like poorly built cars that are unreliable. Give me a break with your German engineering lol. Am I'm not American FYI. I would take Toyota, Acura, Mazda, Honda or Lexus all day over poorly built cars from VW.

  • @luckycharms8282
    @luckycharms8282 4 роки тому

    I like the outer music!

  • @neubauerjoseph
    @neubauerjoseph 4 роки тому

    you can get it is standard if you get 4 motion

  • @miguelircontar
    @miguelircontar 4 роки тому +4

    This looks like a 2010 not 2020

  • @WALLACESHITS
    @WALLACESHITS 4 роки тому

    No comparisons to the Rogue? or Rogue Sport?

  • @santoshj6373
    @santoshj6373 4 роки тому

    This particular Tiguan (longer version) is called Tiguan Allspace in India and is a 7-seater. Go figure!

  • @bikingmoments
    @bikingmoments 4 роки тому +5

    Halogen headlights are a shame. More shameful if the low beam is not a projector housing but reflector (seems like so from the video).

    • @slscamg
      @slscamg 4 роки тому +1

      Ziyang Taoen I agree and from experience and very poor performer.

    • @James-il3tq
      @James-il3tq 4 роки тому +1

      Projector are a must. Easy to change bulbs for LED bulbs. Reflectors are big disappointment tho.

    • @bikingmoments
      @bikingmoments 4 роки тому +2

      euric1 my point is that aftermarket LED performs much worse in a reflector housing vs. projector. Sorry for your terrible experience

    • @slowanddeliberate6893
      @slowanddeliberate6893 4 роки тому +1

      It definitely at least needs HID projector lamps.

    • @afcgeo882
      @afcgeo882 4 роки тому +2

      euric1 It’s not just frowned upon, it’s illegal in all 50 states and highly dangerous because it blinds other drivers. You’re 100% an asshole.

  • @SuperFredAZ
    @SuperFredAZ 4 роки тому

    Your timing is perfect, I am looking at a car in this segment, either the CrV or the Tiguan

    • @alighaus4127
      @alighaus4127 4 роки тому

      Get a rav4
      Best selling crossover

    • @SuperFredAZ
      @SuperFredAZ 4 роки тому

      @@alighaus4127 Might be true, but I need a car in 4 weeks, so it has to be in inventory, so I will wind up buying what can be had.

    • @SuperFredAZ
      @SuperFredAZ 4 роки тому

      @hiroshima thompson thanks for the tip, but I don't wish to travel 2 hours for a car. I have 20 Dealers within 10 min. drive. I will go from one to ther until I find something suitable. I am leasing for 3 yrs, so at the end it just goes back.

    • @SuperFredAZ
      @SuperFredAZ 4 роки тому

      @hiroshima thompson I live in Phoenix, so I thought you were saying I should drive to Tucson, no harm. Yes I will be looking at Hyundai, there is a dealer 4 miles from my house (in Scottsdale). I will look at the Tucson and the Santa Fe.

    • @IvanBosnjak89
      @IvanBosnjak89 4 роки тому

      These vehicles are so close it’s mostly down to preference. The Tig is more fun in the handling department (if not engine), but the CR-V may last longer. We’ve had difficulty getting any discounts through Honda though, and got a great deal on our VW. Might be best to see what kind of deal you can get.

  • @joelhansen7373
    @joelhansen7373 4 роки тому +3

    Can the engine be chipped?

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 4 роки тому +3

      Joel Hansen it can be tuned yes. APR makes great products and tunes that can bump power by 40-60hp over stock.

    • @afcgeo882
      @afcgeo882 4 роки тому

      Yes, but there are issues with this specific engine (Tiguan). You will void your warranty. Most models will get a comparable warranty from the tuner, but not for this model.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 4 роки тому

      @@afcgeo882 of course it can void powertrain warranty, all tunes can. But nothing specific about this engine that is known to be an issue with regards to tuning.

    • @afcgeo882
      @afcgeo882 4 роки тому +1

      Alan Bowers Not true. APR, the company that supports VW tunes and is endorsed by VW itself offers you a warranty that’s identical to VWs powerplant, once you use their product - APR Plus. That’s so you don’t lose your coverage. It’s available on most VW engines being offered today, including the 2.0 TSi, but NOT for the Tiguan version of it.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 4 роки тому

      @@afcgeo882 APR Plus coverage (or lack thereof) has nothing to do with potential issues. Per APR themselves "With VW offering the 72 month warranty on their SUV's we probably will not offer an APR Plus option for the tiguan for the forseeable future (the longer warranty terms may be cost prohibitive)."
      No different than them not covering any Porsche Carrera models (and I'm sure various others).

  • @andreasstuebig4635
    @andreasstuebig4635 4 роки тому

    Good morning from China, could you please review 2020 Lincoln Aviator ?
    please keep up the good work.
    Andy from Yantai / China

    • @OMGWTFLOLSMH
      @OMGWTFLOLSMH 4 роки тому

      Watch your back. Hope you don't get arrested for "spying" or some other trumped up nonsense charge.

  • @russellault2391
    @russellault2391 4 роки тому

    I'm not a third row seat person I prefer the 2 row 5-6 seater