The whole 4th Reich idk was a huge missed opportunity. Imagine if once that happened, Vanguard team gets tasked w/ hunting down Nazi’s in actual countries that are known to or allegedly harbored Nazi’s after WW2 (Spain and Argentina for example). They would be performing the first unsanctioned missions into “neutral countries”, essentially becoming the first black ops unit which would tie in w/ the new story there telling in Warzone.
What is sad about the death by dog is that in Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare they actually have animations for when a dog attacks you and kills you. That game came out in 2007...
@@abramsullivan7764 LOL no. Venomous creatures inflict their venom with (usually) a bite. Poisonous creatures are toxic to eat. Brazilian tree frogs don't kill you when they bite you. Cobra meat is safe to eat.
I'm not taking a nasty or vindictive tone, but I suspect what she meant was - there were no *female* iconic characters, and with today's obsession with ID politics, that's as good as not having any iconic characters. Either way you cut the cake, it's laughable. No iconic characters?? Uhh… Price: Nikolai, we gotta get Soap out of here! Nikolai: Da! I know a place!
@@sgtbaker2072 I figured that’s what she meant but she should come out and say it, because it’d be true. I 100% agree there is not a single memorable character in this series that isn’t a gruff white guy. Trying to be noncommittal though invalidates the point as it usually does. And on top of that Vanguard didn’t change this by throwing out what isn’t even their first case of “we have Sniper Wolf at home”. They just wanna say they’re being progressive while really they continue catering to the insecure white frat bro audience, which makes sense given Activision is run by insecure white frat bros.
"Call of Duty has never had any iconic characters." I don't even play Call of Duty and I still know who Captain Price is. This has the same energy as when Kathleen Kennedy claimed that Lucasfilm didn't have any expanded universe material to pull inspiration from when writing new stories.
I played mw2, ghosts, World at war and black ops 1, 2 and 3. With that fact I present the people I know without much thinking Price, Makarov, Zakaev, Sandman, Soap, Ghost, Roach (kind of), Elias, Rorke, Mason, Woods, Dimitri Petrenkov, Resnov, Dragovich, Grafchenko and finally Steiner. WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT WITH NO CHARACTERS?!
I mean, the charachters are more like walking tropes, not really charachters. Eg price is just a generic stoic british tough officer; it doesnt even matter that theres like 20 of him during time, theyre all the same. So its not completely wrong. Although, I guess the robot in Infinite (advanced?) warfare actually had some basic personality and an arc? Like Rogue one; kinda ironic, the robot is the most human charachter in the story.
@@termitreter6545 we humans like to anthropomorphize things. A lot of us think robots are cool, so I can see why they are made with human characteristics in stories.
@@termitreter6545 i think it’s interesting that some of us humans look at robots In such a manner. Something which objectively does not have emotions or human traits. I can see where you’re coming from though.
"We never had any iconic characters to latch onto." *Soap, Nikolai, Price, Ghost, Mason, Woods, Hudson, Resnov, Yuri, Makarov, and Ramirez laughing beyond the grave*
Exactly. Are they forgetting that they just rebooted Modern Warfare and Black Ops purely on the fact that Captain Price, Ghost, and Woods are such recognizable flagship characters?
Are any of them WW2 people though? I don't know Call of Duty Lore because...there really isn't one. It's a joke. LOL Thats why their Multiplayer is so good, because nobody cares about the Story/Single Player.
A German soldier seeing a black British commando prisoner and then just laughing at him, would be 10 million times more effective than any shitty 5 minute speech about how racism is bad. It would immediately say what it need too. It would immediately give the player a reason to hate the enemy in less than 2 seconds.
He could've just said: "HAHAHAHAHAHAH, YOU'RE BLACK! HOW CAN BLACK MAN BE IN A BATTLEFIELD?!" ...and then the rest of the soldiers start laughing too. And boom, he'd be a memorable villain.
The fact that you seek reasons online in 2022 to "hate the enemy" means that you have no business discussing about these things. Stick to your woke rainbows, unicorns and safe bubbles.
YEAH! An OG COD Players who have writing talent probably better at writing vanguard story than that woman who said COD Never have iconic characters and she is holding position most COD player can only dreamed of (Being a part in his or her favorite game development)
I know who Price and Mason are and I only played 2 COD games. I’m in my 40s and play mostly sims and tactical shooters, those were absolutely iconic characters. They’re literally hiring people who don’t play video games.
I almost died when Joe mentioned bs marketing and compared to what's in actual game also this is another epic rewiev that I can watch few times over and over
Thing is, if they didn't rush to throw something out every single year, they could accomplish both. But they know it'll make money so fuck it. Who am I? One of my favorite games is the Metro series where the game play is just as good as the storyline.
Call of Duty Modern Warfare 1 and 2 had incredible campaigns. With some of the most memorable characters and moments. One being the sniper/pripyat map.
"It brings back the intense, visceral, boots on the ground gameplay" No, that was World at War. And World at War was just vicious, gives no shits, and just displays a story of how war was really like for the soldiers that fought in it. It was simple, but it was dark, brutal and outright monstrous.
The American section on the campaign was more intense and vicious for me due to the Japanese suddenly appearing out of nowhere with their bayonets charging at you. Yeah, World at War is the best.
I was watching AJ play through the campaign on Twitch, and was really amused by the lack of attention to detail in the game. AS-44s in Stalingrad, Volkssturmgewehrs in North Africa and the Japanese using STG-44s and MG42s? What the hell? I'm not asking for 100% documentary-esque historical accuracy, but at least give the soldiers period-accurate weapons. Even some of the cutscenes didn't make sense, why would the Americans need a Japanese plane to bomb the enemy defenses? Did the Marines somehow forget about the 20 aircraft carriers that would have been stationed off-shore?
The way they talked about it on that panel is just so bland and boring. That woman clearly had no idea what she was doing and was just talking out of her ass like a college student during presentations.
@@MetalGearBronya oh yes for sure mate. It seemed like they didn’t know what COD was, and what people expect from a COD game. I may get hate for this but MW2019 had a gut wrenching campaign, maybe too much at times but it showed that we hadn’t gotten that in a while, this campaign seemed sterile and almost too clean. Like they didn’t want to offend to cause controversy or stir up a discussion or debate. I remember that one Clean House mission in MW was heavy on me, I was playing that with my dad sitting next to me and I shot the lady with the detonator and he went “did you just shoot her!?!” And we had that reaction so many times. These writers need to look at WaW and how the writing there was impactful, gut wrenching and actually more realistic than what they make in 2021
@@viddykhaos2896 sludgehammer just sucks worse cod dev ever Activision should just drop them from releasing a cod title they wait til the last minute to do updates does the bare minimum
@@Deadhead-kq4hr oh 100%, seeing that they now have made TWO Second World War CODs that both were quite below par of what COD did legitimately over a decade ago in WaW, I agree with you.
In CoD Big Red One, the story spans from 1942 to 1945. In '42, you see M3 Stuarts. In '44, then you see M4 Shermans and StG44s. This was the care Activision used to have.
Remember when cutscenes were utilized in games to set the tone and atmosphere and maybe offer some brief exposition about what you're doing and why? Yeah, me too.
Captain John Price, John "Soap" McTavish, Gaz (Kyle Garrick is one of the best re-image charterers), Ghost, Lt. Vasquez, SSgt. Griggs, Sgt Paul Jackson. Not to mention Sgt Frank Woods, Alex Mason
Remember how in WaW how they introduced you to Reznov as Dimitri by escaping death, him teaching you how to snipe, then having the epic fight through the city?
That was the good time when they mimicked good, classic war movies like Enemy at the Gate's Stalingrad scenes. When video games stopped mirroring good ole classic cinema of the 2000s-2010s, they became a bore. Blacks Ops 1 ripped some of their best scenes from classic movies like Deer Hunter. Hipsters behind the script make it so silly, don't realize people actually love mature topics.
@@camjohnson5517 Dunkirk was definitely iconic but not for its 'battle' scenes, more for its cinematography and dramatic tension. There's also 1917, but COD has never made a WW1 game to this date. Wouldn't suit their multiplayer gunplay cookie cutter. I think the best COD's were inspired by action/war films and added the right amount of video game style and story. Nowadays they have way too much creative liberties.
Crazy how Treyarch has been getting the shit end of the stick and getting less and less dev time and YET somehow some way treyarch has still been the best dev team
The people who buy the garbage allow the garbage to keep existing so I would say the former are the worse, if they stopped buying it at least this endless cycle could actually end
I'll do you one better, Lieutenant General Sheperd's moustache has more character than the entire Vanguard game AND their development team. That betrayal is felt even to today.
That being said, this pathetic attempt at invalidating the history of Task Force 141 is pure insulting and shows the lack of braincells in the developers. The betrayal of Sheperd The losses faced by Price The death of Soap when trying to take out Makarov The death of Ghost and Roach when Sheperd's betrayal came to light along with Shadow Company The death of PFC Joseph Allen after his identity was leaked to Makarov even after following through by killing innocent Russians at the airport. The death of Yuri in an attempt to stop his friend, Makarov The deaths of Archer and Toad when they were acting as overwatch for Roach and Ghost, killed by counter snipers who used thermal visions to find them, preventing them from warning Roach and Ghost of Sheperd's betrayal Sure, fucking Karens, C.O.D had no "iconic" character. Failed at history much?
“We have two more stories that we want to tell with these characters” So why didn’t you tell these stories in this game? Oh I know why, because FUCK YOU GIVE ME MONEY!
@@gamingodyssey4328 like the fact they have 2 more vanguards planned is just sad if they wanted surely they could do a little mini series if they wanted and just focuse on the next modern warfare
The fact is, almost all indie games never have these issues, it’s like the old days where you can just pick up a game regardless of cost or validity and enjoy it to your hearts content. It’s not to say all AAA developers are bad, but I wouldn’t mind some being out of business.
Seems like a lot of AAA developers are cheaping out because they know they have a reliable fanbase that will eat garbage up like nothing. It actually hurts me because they have the resources to develop amazing games but choose not to out of pure profit. I can't imagine what Escape from Tarkov would be like with AAA level funding and development.
Well, that's not true tbh. Almost all indie games are trash, so we don't know or hear their names. As they don't have a budget for advertising, we don't play or even come across hundreds of stupid indie games. We only hear the good ones, which is pretty few compared to the whole indie sector, and that's why we think indie games are likely to be more successful about innovation in the end. But we hear almost every AAA, so... it's not accurate to criticize like that IMO.
you can't just compare them to the 1% of the 1% of the indies that actually reach the mainstream and pretend that somehow if you have very few people working on it then no stupid decisions happen. A smaller scope and creative freedom surely help removing what's unnecessary to create a more focused, catered experience but the "indies are better" wagon is mostly full of ignorance.
All AAA devs not named Nintendo are terrible. Someone made a good video about it the but to save time, game companies nowadays can "update" a game after release, so releasing an unfinished product is ok.
It takes less effort and time to create cutscenes with motion capture to immerse the player, than to actually design playable levels. - Activision 2021
I mean this game only had less than 2 years of Development Sledgehammer games and Raven Software were supposed to make a Vietnam based game in 2020 but Treyarch took over that game and made it Black Ops Cold War.Thats why that game didn't run on MW Engine.I mean Vanguard is like COD 3 how COD 3 was made under 6 months. I'm a True COD player not an Average COD player who plays Warzone and 6v6 MP. Go watch Tom Hendersons leak on Vanguard now he's completely silent about BF2042. And Didn't MW and Infinite Warfare have Cinematics like Vanguard? So Battlefield can be 100/10 on Launch because it is a Battlefield game.But COD cannot be Broken on Launch 0/100 👍👌.It's like as if Battlefield2042 not having a Campaign is a good decision.
@@ChandranPrema123 This is kind of why Call of Duty just needs a massive studio to pump games out every 3 years instead of every year; we might get more Black Ops 3's if it were like that; Black Ops II and III were the peak of the franchise.
Okay so here's how you "approach a game like a movie" and succeed. Make those cool cinematics ,then find every part you can make playable /have happen while we are in control and have the more set up shots be short "we lose control,see the shot then gain control" moments and boom players love it.
Why can't a company make Steel Battalion:Heavy Armour but you are a soldier on the ground? Having Mechs fight while you are shooting troops on the ground, mech rounds splitting your teammates in half with blood everywhere showing the chaos in war I'm that universe?
Captain Price. Soap. Ghost. Gaz. Roach. And also Mason, Woods, Hudson, Weaver, Reznov, and even now with cold war, I'd argue Adler was made as an iconic character. I could name more
The thing is even movie are getting better they're also making show set on WWII and sometimes their female soldiers but it believable of why their there watch Warsaw 1944, downfall, and others on Amazon and Netflix But cod wanna be stuck in the 90s with the Pearl harbor approach because big explosion if they're going back to their root everything would be more grounded
Naw man, COD at least has the decency to change it's scenery somewhat for each installment unlike Madden or Fifa so it's just a smidgen better, still shit tho
I love Joe in the beginning. "It sucks." He rolls credits. Basically saying; 'You won't put effort into the game, I won't put effort in reviewing it. Simple.' That was savage Joe. lmao XD Edit: Wow, thank you for all the likes and responses. I wasn't expecting it when I commented this. :D
Did you hear her at (15:23)?! They want to break down walls! Just like the PC Left want to do... Not all of em', but this lot does. They want to break down minority walls, which is fine, but with stupid ideas that don't work. They're mixing the two into an AGENDA, and the idiocy needs to stop. Because this is just the latest case, both in gaming and Hollywood.
Also in the jungle mission with the Japanese, there is no animation when they banzai charge you where you can get out. They just insta kill you. Cod World at war have that animation and it came out in 2008 Lol 😂
I was about to say that in og modern warfare they had actual animation on the dogs biting off your throat and also had a small QuickTime event to get away from them.
Translating cinematic moments to gameplay is one of the few things that CoD campaigns usually get right, now they don't even have that going on for them.
Yep. I remember when i briefly see band of brother scene where they need to cover a medic while he carry a wounded soldier to safety. My dad said this was inspiration for call of duty Sometimes later there is an objective in Call of Duty 1 where you need to cover a medic while he does the same thing as what ive seen in my brief look on band of brothers. And in that sequence i feel like i was the part of band of brother characters squad.
Honesty, I never trust a studio that tries to make games "like movies." I'm not a CoD fan so I didn't know about that until this video. Movies are reactive (audience reacting to what's happening in the movie), video games are interactive (audience is interacting with what is happening in the game). Failure to understand that means that your game is damned.
The Order 1886 is a perfect example. Actual gameplay only made up about a quarter of the whole experience. The rest was just cutscenes, walking and QTEs.
A movie can be very cinematic while also being interactive. It can also be very linear but still fun and interactive, but a lot of teams either don’t have the time or the ability to allow you to interact with it while still showing the story and pushing you to move forward. Easier to add a waypoint and a cutscene trigger than it is to make the environment such that it leads you to where you need to go, and the events are interesting enough that you’re gonna look at and understand them without being forced into a cutscene or just have control taken away from you.
The fact that the majority of players will sit on ship haus 24/7 to camo grind for warzone, a game mode which is currently unplayable through bugs, says a lot about the franchise
Part of the “memorable character” thing that they missed is that for the longest time, COD was a lot like the Sherlock Holmes books, in that, the main character/protagonist is not actually the viewpoint character. Sherlock Holmes is the main character, but watson is the narrator. It’s the same here, the true main characters were the Reznovs and Prices and Gazs and whatnot, rather than the player character, and this was actually very effective, it worked with how the game operates. The only outlier here is Soap, and even then, we only know him from seeing him from an alternate view in MW3 and Price’s reaction to him. But Soap didn’t need to be the star of the show, in fact, it was perfect that he wasn’t. Once you start creating “star” playable characters in COD, the player just taps out, bc they’re not there for that. COD built its status on faceless, storyless MCs. It works.
Lots of players didn't realize that the COD series had pushed the bar (player taste) of AAA Military Single Player FPS Campaign to a level that cause this entire genre dying out, just like what Mario series have done to the 3D Platformer...
To be honest i rather play a game that you shoot each other on an island it sounds more fun to me than just walking and climbing an empty openworld delivering package and watching weird cutscenes.
Imagine making a WW2 game, going heavy on the cutscenes so that “things would feel more grounded and real” and simultaneously choosing this as your cast of characters… 😂
@@USADroopyMeat1099 Well the Berlin mission is one because taking a plane to get out of a city being invaded by the Soviet Union is suicide. And even if they decided to stick around the Soviets would've executed them anyway cause of all that nazi treasure in the plane.
"No iconic characters" I haven't played Call of Duty in years and can still name a few, like Price, Soap, Reznov, Woods, Mason, Ghost, Dimirti, Roebuck and Roach. And that's just off the top of my head.
He’s obviously talking about the creation of new iconic characters not the same ones youve been spoon fed and have been rebooted to get your attention. All those characters are iconic from cods golden days literally didn’t name anyone from bo3 and up
unfortuneatly there are many shills ADVERTISING this game and praising it which is sad. game is miles worse even than cold war. cold war is like good mix between wooden old cods sprinkled with MW2019 mechanics. this. this is just MW2019 with WW2 mod.
@@memezoffuckery3207 nah. Three years was the last ww2. They don’t give a fuck. Just as long as there is a woman sniper who is doing Krav Maga so they can say they are a woke team who care about our feelings as gamers.
If the companies were “”””woke””””” as you idiots keep putting it, they’d pay their people a decent wage and support a healthy work environment. Given that Activision Blizzard’s entire upper management is currently under investigation for SEXUAL ABUSE and general toxicity, I think we can safely say they’re about as woke as a Elaine Esposito right now.
@@barleysixseventwo6665 I think that's the point were are trying to make my friend. Woke "ism" is fake. pandering BS. a smoke screen for who they really are. They make superman gay or add in some front line infantry women. bad asses doing karate and killing nazis to appease so called gamer feelings, but behind the scenes are corrupt AF and only care about making money . Kind of like the current US administration. you are almost there you just need to really read what we are saying. us "idiots" see through the smoke. its time everyone starts opening their eyes.
I like how people constantly cry about "historical accuracy" like a video game is a fucking documentary or something...You people must hate movies like Inglorious Basterds and Saving Private Ryan since neither of those are historically accurate and neither happened......
@@lutherheggs451 well if games like COD or BF are going to CLAIM that they're using realism then we're going to judge them on realism, especially something so obviously not correct
@@lutherheggs451 There’s suspending disbelief, and then there’s being stupid to the point of unreality. This game makes Harry Potter look realistic. And also, COD used to be all about realism as close as they could get with early processing power, and honoring the people who fought in these wars. Now it’s a cash grab with as much realism and thought put into it as a stick figure drawn by a child.
6:20 is no joke. my year old son played in one of those and had to be hospitalized for a week for an unknown infection. Scariest moment of my life. He's ok now so I can laugh about it.
Want Advanced Warfare,BO3 and Infinite Warfare? Want Exo Suits? Edit:I loved Infinite Warfare's Campaign it's one of my most favourites but just asking for an another Jet Pack game because Infinite Warfare had a lot of potential tbh
I think she meant iconic characters, but people don't go to COD for that. Yeah, you have memorable ones in the franchise but she wants 1 person people think of when they think of the franchise, someone who's in multiple COD, which explains why they wanna do multiple Vanguards. It's stupid and so out of touch of them.
The reason this game still bothers me is because of this: My older cousin (who is not a gamer mind you) got me this for Christmas one year. Of course I was grateful but I also felt bad for her because she had no idea what she was buying and just picked something new out. (No I did not ask for it) and bless her heart for the consideration. About 2 months later I get the chance to trade it in. You know what they gave me? TWENTY DOLLARS. that’s it. Twenty bucks for a game that cost my cousin 89.99CAD
The fact that they actually stated CoD doesn't have any memorable main characters really shows the true colors of these devs. They don't even know their own franchise. I would wager plenty of them have never even played a CoD game. This game couldn't be more manufactured and passion starved if it tried. If anyone is interested in playing a game as good as those cut scenes, it does exist. It's called Battlefield 1.
i think it's not about not knowing their franchise. It's the usual marketing crap. Like when a franchise that had, for example, a well liked and overall well received female character suddenly gets the announcement that the next installment "Will finally have the first cool, major, awesome great female character In the history of the franchise!!!". It's basically them trying to gaslight the consumers into THINKING the new character(s) is as awesome and deep and blablabla as they creators want the people to perceive.
Or....just play World at War. No big cutscenes, but it's still a brutal shooter. Just watch out. On veteren, the AI tends to throw buckets of grenades at ya.
@@aweshetdima2157 More like they're all tethered to your leg and all shots are magnetized to you. I had to cheese the AI so much to beat it on veteran.
Also how they talk like they're the first people in history to put a cutscene in a game, and that we need explanation of the differences between games and movies.
"You only have that in Call of Duty games." Yeah... NO other game in the history of gaming has an iconic character to remember...Master Chief, Artyom, Mario... I'm not sure her glasses are big enough.
COD WAW: You play as a grunt on two fronts of the war, and experience the horrors that come with it COD Vanguard: You play as a fighter pilot with slow motion superpowers and aimbot
Loved WAW especially the War mode. One time I killed the entire team with a sticky grenade (7? Kills) at the beginning of a match. Unfortunately they killed me before the grenade blew up so I didnt get my kill streaks.
The fact that the campaign KNOWS it's so poorly paced that it has to RESTRICT sprint speed so you don't go FASTER than the story is the most beautiful comedy I've ever seen.
It's funny that MW2 characters didn't have these cinematic introductions. You just played the game and the characters just stood out through the storyline themselves. RIP Ghost.
The MW2 campaign had a 90’s action packed story and with action packed levels, with alpha male characters that looked aesthetically badass. They were socially inept, and didn’t say cringe Superman dialogues. All the spec ops characters were all serious and on that Sigma grindset to complete the missions they were tasked.
Don’t act as if DICE and EA are any better with their story modes. Absolute shit tier multiplayer with no inclusive “rEaLiSm”. I wonder if this is what RockStar did, oh wait, they did. With Red Dead Redemption 2. Zzzzzzz, *snores* this is so tiring. Why do I hafta sound like a broken record player? Just why? You know the multiplayer for BF1, and V sucked. No realistic warfare, everyone ran with assault class using SMG, LMG, in WW1 trench warfare? Gtfo, narrow mindedness. No wonder you guys get shit games.
They might as well just turn CoD into a movie series. The stories are decent action military thrillers and, clearly, making movies is what they really want to do anyway.
The issue is simple Joe. The masses have gotten too attached to mindless multiplayer, so they'll buy the game even if the campaign is terrible *because they don't care about the campaign.*
@Best Montage except it does matter, while many play multiplayer, not everyone does and in top of that it's a third of the game, so your either paying 60-70$ for 2/3 of a game or you pay 60-70$ for a full game, which would you rather have for the same price 2/3 or the full package being good
@Best Montage no, I don't think your opinion counts for 99% of players so get off your high horse and look at these games objectively, it never had to be cut this and cut that, it never had to be half ass this so this parts good, it wasn't until recent when such a stupid sentiment arisen when all the games are either partially good or not at all, I don't remember BO1 and 2 ever needing to sacrifice a fine campaign for a multiplayer, hell they even added arcade mode in bo1, did that sacrifice any quality l, no it really didn't, now people like you are the problem who only think the part they like should be good instead of the whole, that's such a stupid narrow minded thought that it's actually kinda painful to see throughout the fanbase.
I love how the Steiner "Boss" is the exact same as when you play as Farah in Modern Warfare 2019 and take down the Russian soldier. Couldn't even think of a new way to do a fight like that.
35:10 This is exactly why in any FPS game with weapon progression (camos, attatchments, etc), you absolutely NEED to have it be a purely points-based system, with no references individual k1lls or headsh0ts. Terms like weapon exp and say "critical hit points" could stand in perfectly, and be scaled based on the game mode, even dynamically for certain seasonal events, to promote new modes, or if the devs notice they were wrong about the real pacing of certain modes (because players will definitely find out and flock to it if they find any notable discrepencies). For example, the same pub-stomping player may get 70-80 elims in a frantic 10v10 mode, where they may only get 15-20 in a plant and defuse mode (even though each individual one was far more difficult and contributed far more to the outcome of the match)... so if any challenges are requiring any specific number of anything, playing plant/defuse modes is just wasting your time if your goal is to unlock things. Vague points systems let players experience more of the game or just do the things they enjoy most, without feeling like they're missing out by not playing the fastest TTK modes.
@@HowToNotMeta Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was all part of the same mission seeing nobody tasked them to search for the kraut leader after freeing themselves
what I'm most confused about was I thought this game was about the FSSF which didn't have a single Russian in it. So no Canadians but there's a Russian? I was under the influence that they wanted to tell a story based on real events not make up some bullshit.
Call of Duty has NO ICONIC CHARACTERS? That is the biggest bruh moment I've ever seen
I come here before this comment gets like 8000 likes.
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Yo Act Man I’ve been watching since you were a semi small channel. Congrats on your amazing growth and success.
Act man and angry joe keep it real
It's time to take the gloves off...
Dev: “Call of Duty doesn’t really have iconic characters.”
Captain Price: “How’d a muppet like you pass selection?”
It hurt my feelings
Holy shit how'd I forget price. I was thinking of resnov, mason, ghost, the 4 characters in zombies, but how'd I forget price
Gen. Sheperd be like: that one is such an loose ends (shoot the woman who stated that COD never have iconic character)
"Vasili!"
"Tank! Northeast! Keep your eyes open Evans!"
"Martin! Over here. Get into the car."
@@ghillepig2 perhaps "4: Modern Warfare" started some iconic characters and simply "Modern Warfare 2" Unlike the first 3 Installments?
Imagine not knowing who Captain Price is, and being in charge of a Call of Duty game. Unbelievable.
Results in this pile of diarrhoea. Whoulda thunk it.
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This is what happens when you put Gen Z in charge of a nearly 20 year old legendary game franchise. You get dog shit.
I'd be more worried if they didn't know who Alex Mason was.
@@LethalByChoice these are millennials in charge of the game I'm pretty sure lmao
The whole 4th Reich idk was a huge missed opportunity. Imagine if once that happened, Vanguard team gets tasked w/ hunting down Nazi’s in actual countries that are known to or allegedly harbored Nazi’s after WW2 (Spain and Argentina for example). They would be performing the first unsanctioned missions into “neutral countries”, essentially becoming the first black ops unit which would tie in w/ the new story there telling in Warzone.
This sounds better than the whole vanguard story and would even make more sense lmao
Would have been nice
This is a great idea
Bro just made a more compelling and logical story than the Vanguard writing team 💀
Countries like the United States?
What is sad about the death by dog is that in Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare they actually have animations for when a dog attacks you and kills you. That game came out in 2007...
And you can escape from it too unlike this game where you just die on impact apparently
It’s evolving, just backwards.
People complain about this now? The paws of death started way back in Black Ops 1. Probably World At War but I haven't played that one.
@@alexanderulv3886 14 years of backward
@@LightLegion I stopped playing after world at war and always remember there being the dog attack animation
The dogs are not poisonous. Don't be ridiculous, Joe.
They're venomous.
Venomeminem
Venomous is poisonous
@@abramsullivan7764 LOL no. Venomous creatures inflict their venom with (usually) a bite. Poisonous creatures are toxic to eat.
Brazilian tree frogs don't kill you when they bite you. Cobra meat is safe to eat.
@@jackmaney4276 ^ He's right y'know. Science for the win
@@jackmaney4276 you sure you aren’t Jack Hannah?
"Doesn't have iconic characters"
statements like these are why Sledgehammer is on the fast track to being One less loose end.
I'm not taking a nasty or vindictive tone, but I suspect what she meant was - there were no *female* iconic characters, and with today's obsession with ID politics, that's as good as not having any iconic characters.
Either way you cut the cake, it's laughable. No iconic characters?? Uhh…
Price: Nikolai, we gotta get Soap out of here!
Nikolai: Da! I know a place!
@@sgtbaker2072 I figured that’s what she meant but she should come out and say it, because it’d be true. I 100% agree there is not a single memorable character in this series that isn’t a gruff white guy. Trying to be noncommittal though invalidates the point as it usually does.
And on top of that Vanguard didn’t change this by throwing out what isn’t even their first case of “we have Sniper Wolf at home”.
They just wanna say they’re being progressive while really they continue catering to the insecure white frat bro audience, which makes sense given Activision is run by insecure white frat bros.
@@300IQPrower Farah is the only one i can think of, that was ok
such a horrible statement. I don't play call of duty but even I remember Ghost, Soap, and Price were "the call of duty guys "
What a slap in the face to the modern warfare fans they should feel embarrassed and stupid
Some *iconic* Call of Duty characters:
- Captain Price
- Soap McTavish
- Ghost
- Reznov
- Mason
- Woods
NO NO NO NO SOAP!!!!!
R.i.p soap
"The numbers, Mason. What do they mean?"
Yuri?
That's 6 right off the top of your head that's not including the guys from your squad in WW2 or the people you play as.
"Call of Duty has never had any iconic characters." I don't even play Call of Duty and I still know who Captain Price is. This has the same energy as when Kathleen Kennedy claimed that Lucasfilm didn't have any expanded universe material to pull inspiration from when writing new stories.
I played mw2, ghosts, World at war and black ops 1, 2 and 3. With that fact I present the people I know without much thinking
Price, Makarov, Zakaev, Sandman, Soap, Ghost, Roach (kind of), Elias, Rorke, Mason, Woods, Dimitri Petrenkov, Resnov, Dragovich, Grafchenko and finally Steiner.
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT WITH NO CHARACTERS?!
Joe, why is this comment not pinned?
@@umbreonstuff2002 all masculine men, so they dont matter and dont exist
@@Elite_Gamer_1337 literally modern day triple A devs/twitter mentality in a nutshell
@@umbreonstuff2002 roebuck anyone
"Call of Duty has no iconic characters"
Viktor Reznov: for three days, I have hunted him. For three days, luck alone has saved his wretched life.
I feel like I've seen this before.
*Kathleen Kennedy saying there's no source material*
Have we seen this before?
I mean, the charachters are more like walking tropes, not really charachters. Eg price is just a generic stoic british tough officer; it doesnt even matter that theres like 20 of him during time, theyre all the same. So its not completely wrong.
Although, I guess the robot in Infinite (advanced?) warfare actually had some basic personality and an arc? Like Rogue one; kinda ironic, the robot is the most human charachter in the story.
@@termitreter6545 we humans like to anthropomorphize things. A lot of us think robots are cool, so I can see why they are made with human characteristics in stories.
@@codysellers4151 Sure, its just strange that the robots in Rogue One or Infinite CoD seem more "human" and complex than the actual humans.
@@termitreter6545 i think it’s interesting that some of us humans look at robots In such a manner. Something which objectively does not have emotions or human traits.
I can see where you’re coming from though.
"We never had any iconic characters to latch onto."
*Soap, Nikolai, Price, Ghost, Mason, Woods, Hudson, Resnov, Yuri, Makarov, and Ramirez laughing beyond the grave*
Exactly. Are they forgetting that they just rebooted Modern Warfare and Black Ops purely on the fact that Captain Price, Ghost, and Woods are such recognizable flagship characters?
Dont forget Gaz, Foley, Griggs, Vasquez, Sandman, Menendez, Hudson, Shepard... it's hilarious how they couldn't even come up with one of these names
@@wlot28 I only included ones that were reoccuring for the most part
Are any of them WW2 people though? I don't know Call of Duty Lore because...there really isn't one. It's a joke. LOL Thats why their Multiplayer is so good, because nobody cares about the Story/Single Player.
They could at least had the decency to mention Price. He was around for such a long time, and a great father figure for the series...
A German soldier seeing a black British commando prisoner and then just laughing at him, would be 10 million times more effective than any shitty 5 minute speech about how racism is bad. It would immediately say what it need too. It would immediately give the player a reason to hate the enemy in less than 2 seconds.
It is still dumb and irretating. That has nothing to do with ww2
This forced inclusion and diversity just screams "I am inferior". It's self-defeating and insulting.
He could've just said:
"HAHAHAHAHAHAH, YOU'RE BLACK! HOW CAN BLACK MAN BE IN A BATTLEFIELD?!"
...and then the rest of the soldiers start laughing too.
And boom, he'd be a memorable villain.
Plus what the black guy said about the colonial troops in the Rhineland „marrying“ the women there…..
Irl they mass raped women there.
F*ck the game
The fact that you seek reasons online in 2022 to "hate the enemy" means that you have no business discussing about these things. Stick to your woke rainbows, unicorns and safe bubbles.
Imagine not knowing Woods, Mason, Price, Soap and yet being in charge of making the game
Yeah, I cannot imagine that.
Imagine not listing reznov 🖕👎
YEAH! An OG COD Players who have writing talent probably better at writing vanguard story than that woman who said COD Never have iconic characters and she is holding position most COD player can only dreamed of (Being a part in his or her favorite game development)
Even Adler!
I know who Price and Mason are and I only played 2 COD games. I’m in my 40s and play mostly sims and tactical shooters, those were absolutely iconic characters. They’re literally hiring people who don’t play video games.
"I'm going for a shit. Fuck this game"
Succinct, crisp, and spot on accuracy, nice one AJ
Timestamp?
22:35
Edward Chapman Angry facts
"I'm going to take a shit."*
Imagine if he said I'm going for a fuck, shit this game
"HE'S A MAN, NOT A DOG!"
Man, that shit brought back memories.
bad rambo game flash backs lol
Brought back nightmares you mean
Dogzilla is approaching the generator......The generator is losing power.
sample obtained
"Put your joycon right on its side!"
Im mad that nobody in the conference room screamed Captain Price after she said COD has no memorable characters
THATS BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL DEAD UNDERSTAND
Or Viktor reznov, ghost, chernov, that's three right there.
Sgt. Foley yelling at Ramirez is more iconic than anything in this embarrassing game😂
😂😂😂😂
😂 It is! Because I know exactly what you are talking about. Haha
"Ramirez! Do everything!"
To be fair that became a meme so of course it became Iconic
"Ramirez! Reload my gun"
I love that opening. Cutting to the chase: "It sucks."
That straight cracked me up haha
Yeah, short and to the point.
TL:DR HAHAHAHHAAHHA
But for real, we fans love his long form reviews.
Can you imagine how much crying from the Incel FanBois he would have to deal with if he actually ended it there.
Could've just ended it right there
"Cod has no iconic characters. "
JFK: "Gentlemen, lock and load. "
Richard Nixon calling Zombies Hippies was more memorable than any of the clowns from Vanguards Campaign
*Gaz ,Captain Price and Soap MacTavish are laughing at the background.*
@@hexenkonig7074 "SOUNDS LIKE SOMONE'S BREAKING INNN!!!"
NIIIIIXXXON’S BACK!!!
@@badjuju2721 “It’s just a storm Dick calm down”
I almost died when Joe mentioned bs marketing and compared to what's in actual game also this is another epic rewiev that I can watch few times over and over
COD dog in 2007: Tackles you to the ground, gives you a chance to survive.
COD dog now: Passes by and auto kills a player lol
It is pretty funny. They just run by players and they drop.
Game is awful... Rage and disgust
I was blown away when I was tackled and I didn’t want to kill a dog so it ripped out my throat
Not to mention they teleport up ladders too
Dog got bitten by spider and tony gives him suit that got instant killed! SMH
"We weren't sure how to improve gameplay without causing a lot of bugs, so here's a movie! "
Small advice to the developers, if they wanna make a movie, make a movie, don't pretend to be a game developer
Woah that’s totally what they did 🤯
Awesome can’t wait for vanguard 2 and 3.
Thing is, if they didn't rush to throw something out every single year, they could accomplish both. But they know it'll make money so fuck it. Who am I? One of my favorite games is the Metro series where the game play is just as good as the storyline.
Angry Joe: They're getting worse yet people keep buying them.
Me:They can get worse?!
At this point, it's like watching an ongoing train wreck plowing through a city
He buys nfl and nba games so...
Nerocienema and eight thoughts in a nutshell
Oof
@@dontwatchmuhvideosanddontscrub it also gives EA money and publicity, even bad publicity is publicity.
Call of Duty Modern Warfare 1 and 2 had incredible campaigns. With some of the most memorable characters and moments. One being the sniper/pripyat map.
"It brings back the intense, visceral, boots on the ground gameplay"
No, that was World at War. And World at War was just vicious, gives no shits, and just displays a story of how war was really like for the soldiers that fought in it. It was simple, but it was dark, brutal and outright monstrous.
I know right
The American section on the campaign was more intense and vicious for me due to the Japanese suddenly appearing out of nowhere with their bayonets charging at you. Yeah, World at War is the best.
@@josephdragunov374 yeah! Literal ambushes were used!
To me waw is the definitive ww2 game.
P.s. we need a korean war game with waw's grit and tone it would be perfect.
BRING BACK WAW......my friends might play again, plus who doesn't like a co op campain?
"That's a Michael Bay Grenade!"
That shit had me dying!
*Michael Bay watching this* " WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN! "
ME TOO. Lol.XD
I thought the same exact thing 😂
I think he just missed that the Germans left all the explosives when they ran from the nade so it blew up everything in there.
@@benjaminloken1999 unfortunately Michael bae already did transformers 3
Battlefield 5: "We're the most historically inaccurate WWII game."
CoD Vanguard: "Hold my reusable Panzerfaust"
Cod vanguard : * laughs in drum mag m1 garand *
U two made my day. Thank you.
I was watching AJ play through the campaign on Twitch, and was really amused by the lack of attention to detail in the game. AS-44s in Stalingrad, Volkssturmgewehrs in North Africa and the Japanese using STG-44s and MG42s? What the hell? I'm not asking for 100% documentary-esque historical accuracy, but at least give the soldiers period-accurate weapons.
Even some of the cutscenes didn't make sense, why would the Americans need a Japanese plane to bomb the enemy defenses? Did the Marines somehow forget about the 20 aircraft carriers that would have been stationed off-shore?
Shit in comparison with vanguard is BFV the most accurate game there is like literally
@@frankrichter1634 and even BF5 is filled with inaccuracies
They made a movie instead of an actual game 💀
One of the biggest problems in coorporate games today
@@wetube6513 yup but it works because most kids are entertained as long as they get to push a button. That's what quick time events are for
Joe: Vanguard is horrendous this is a step backwards!~
Battlefield 2042: I got something for you Mr. Joe...
oh dont even get into that :D
After watching both reviews I'm puzzled how both scored a 4.
Vanguard is so much worse overall....just the game design in general is awful. At least 2042 is just BF with shitty specialists/bugs (fixable)
@@funtourhawk 2042 is no BF, it is a mixture of Apex and Warzone
Jokes on you! Battlefield can't be called out for taking a step backwards because it's never been so bad.
The writers for this are exactly the people I expected to have written it given the quality.
The way they talked about it on that panel is just so bland and boring. That woman clearly had no idea what she was doing and was just talking out of her ass like a college student during presentations.
Woke trash can’t create, only destroy
@@MetalGearBronya oh yes for sure mate. It seemed like they didn’t know what COD was, and what people expect from a COD game. I may get hate for this but MW2019 had a gut wrenching campaign, maybe too much at times but it showed that we hadn’t gotten that in a while, this campaign seemed sterile and almost too clean. Like they didn’t want to offend to cause controversy or stir up a discussion or debate. I remember that one Clean House mission in MW was heavy on me, I was playing that with my dad sitting next to me and I shot the lady with the detonator and he went “did you just shoot her!?!” And we had that reaction so many times. These writers need to look at WaW and how the writing there was impactful, gut wrenching and actually more realistic than what they make in 2021
@@viddykhaos2896 sludgehammer just sucks worse cod dev ever Activision should just drop them from releasing a cod title they wait til the last minute to do updates does the bare minimum
@@Deadhead-kq4hr oh 100%, seeing that they now have made TWO Second World War CODs that both were quite below par of what COD did legitimately over a decade ago in WaW, I agree with you.
The Pacific: has STGs and MG42s
Stalingrad 1942: has STG44s
North Africa 1941: has STG44s
Activision: yeah this is okay
Those were prototypes in that time they didn’t see mass use till like 1944 wtf activision.
The Japanese with revolver shotguns
In CoD Big Red One, the story spans from 1942 to 1945. In '42, you see M3 Stuarts. In '44, then you see M4 Shermans and StG44s. This was the care Activision used to have.
@@halo129830 German troops using thompsons on Russian Front.
Not to mention the out of place attachments and mags...
Remember when cutscenes were utilized in games to set the tone and atmosphere and maybe offer some brief exposition about what you're doing and why? Yeah, me too.
Dark souls
"We don't really have iconic cod characters."
Capt. Price: Am I a joke to you?
Yeah, there is no way she’s even watched a Call Of Duty game before.
Captain John Price, John "Soap" McTavish, Gaz (Kyle Garrick is one of the best re-image charterers), Ghost, Lt. Vasquez, SSgt. Griggs, Sgt Paul Jackson. Not to mention Sgt Frank Woods, Alex Mason
@@75thranger3 Victor Reznov
@@wille970 my mind is still blown that they brought him back from World at War, one of the reasons I love WaW is because of Reznov
Precisely the same as Disney's "First gay character", "First Female Superhero", ect ect.
Remember how in WaW how they introduced you to Reznov as Dimitri by escaping death, him teaching you how to snipe, then having the epic fight through the city?
That was the good time when they mimicked good, classic war movies like Enemy at the Gate's Stalingrad scenes. When video games stopped mirroring good ole classic cinema of the 2000s-2010s, they became a bore. Blacks Ops 1 ripped some of their best scenes from classic movies like Deer Hunter. Hipsters behind the script make it so silly, don't realize people actually love mature topics.
@@maaz322 also there hasn't been any iconic war films for quite a while so they dont have much to rip off.
@@davestar4718 well there’s Dunkirk, but god-forbid one makes a WW2 game where the allies actually lose for once
Vendetta is the best mission in CoD history.
@@camjohnson5517 Dunkirk was definitely iconic but not for its 'battle' scenes, more for its cinematography and dramatic tension. There's also 1917, but COD has never made a WW1 game to this date. Wouldn't suit their multiplayer gunplay cookie cutter. I think the best COD's were inspired by action/war films and added the right amount of video game style and story. Nowadays they have way too much creative liberties.
Can't tell what's worse honestly.
The people who still buy into this garbage or the companies that force their devs to make such garbage.
Crazy how Treyarch has been getting the shit end of the stick and getting less and less dev time and YET somehow some way treyarch has still been the best dev team
Why not both?
Both they are a symbiotic relationship,
It's just like Madden, they know people are going to buy it anyway so why make any effort.
The people who buy the garbage allow the garbage to keep existing so I would say the former are the worse, if they stopped buying it at least this endless cycle could actually end
I remember 10 years ago when people were saying every cod was the same. If only we knew how good we had it back then
"There are no iconic characters in Call of Duty."
*Simon "Ghost" Riley's mask has more character than all of Task Force 1 put together.*
Roach had more personality than whatever they were shoveling in Vanguard.
I'll do you one better, Lieutenant General Sheperd's moustache has more character than the entire Vanguard game AND their development team.
That betrayal is felt even to today.
That being said, this pathetic attempt at invalidating the history of Task Force 141 is pure insulting and shows the lack of braincells in the developers.
The betrayal of Sheperd
The losses faced by Price
The death of Soap when trying to take out Makarov
The death of Ghost and Roach when Sheperd's betrayal came to light along with Shadow Company
The death of PFC Joseph Allen after his identity was leaked to Makarov even after following through by killing innocent Russians at the airport.
The death of Yuri in an attempt to stop his friend, Makarov
The deaths of Archer and Toad when they were acting as overwatch for Roach and Ghost, killed by counter snipers who used thermal visions to find them, preventing them from warning Roach and Ghost of Sheperd's betrayal
Sure, fucking Karens, C.O.D had no "iconic" character. Failed at history much?
@@PandaGin Well said my man XD
Ghost my boy
“We have two more stories that we want to tell with these characters”
So why didn’t you tell these stories in this game?
Oh I know why, because FUCK YOU GIVE ME MONEY!
Given the quality of the cutscenes and cinematography, they shouldve just made this into a CG film.
Hell I'd pay for that not 60 dollars but damn xD
It would have been better if it was instead of this trash 🤣
For like Netflix probably, that would have done ok or better at least
they shouldn’t have made it Call Of Duty
@@gamingodyssey4328 like the fact they have 2 more vanguards planned is just sad if they wanted surely they could do a little mini series if they wanted and just focuse on the next modern warfare
“THE NUMBERS [Unimportant Character] WHAT DO THEY MEAN?!”
-[Another forgettable character]
Yeah that’s how that went.
That’s because they died since the beginning they are all dead thats why those spokespeople said it
The fact is, almost all indie games never have these issues, it’s like the old days where you can just pick up a game regardless of cost or validity and enjoy it to your hearts content. It’s not to say all AAA developers are bad, but I wouldn’t mind some being out of business.
Seems like a lot of AAA developers are cheaping out because they know they have a reliable fanbase that will eat garbage up like nothing. It actually hurts me because they have the resources to develop amazing games but choose not to out of pure profit. I can't imagine what Escape from Tarkov would be like with AAA level funding and development.
Well, that's not true tbh. Almost all indie games are trash, so we don't know or hear their names.
As they don't have a budget for advertising, we don't play or even come across hundreds of stupid indie games.
We only hear the good ones, which is pretty few compared to the whole indie sector, and that's why we think indie games are likely to be more successful about innovation in the end.
But we hear almost every AAA, so... it's not accurate to criticize like that IMO.
Cough ACTIVISION cough
you can't just compare them to the 1% of the 1% of the indies that actually reach the mainstream and pretend that somehow if you have very few people working on it then no stupid decisions happen. A smaller scope and creative freedom surely help removing what's unnecessary to create a more focused, catered experience but the "indies are better" wagon is mostly full of ignorance.
All AAA devs not named Nintendo are terrible. Someone made a good video about it the but to save time, game companies nowadays can "update" a game after release, so releasing an unfinished product is ok.
“Call of duty has no iconic characters”
Bruh you could literally hear reznov’s heart break
Reznov quotes will always take up a sizeable chunk of my brain.
Forget Reznov, Macarov and Soap Mactavash are rolling in their electronic graves.
you kids forgot about cpt. price
-Reznov
-Price
-Makarov
-Soap
-Woods
-the Masons
Not diverse or woke enough so that doesn't count.
The idea of having a vanguard sequel is horrifying haha
We'll get the Ghost 2 sequel before then
@@zenthegeneral I still have that thing for some strange reason. Never played it.
they have stated vanguard was just to keep the little codlings busy while they work on the next big title
@@heliveruscalion9124 "here's boring generic trash while we work on other boring generic trash, trust us guys next one will be even better"
Ghost, Price, Soap, Gaz, Mcmillan, Roach, Yuri, Sandman, Nikolai, Grinch...
Makarov
@@wetube6513 Imran Z, Reznov, Viktor Z
It takes less effort and time to create cutscenes with motion capture to immerse the player, than to actually design playable levels. - Activision 2021
I mean this game only had less than 2 years of Development Sledgehammer games and Raven Software were supposed to make a Vietnam based game in 2020 but Treyarch took over that game and made it Black Ops Cold War.Thats why that game didn't run on MW Engine.I mean Vanguard is like COD 3 how COD 3 was made under 6 months.
I'm a True COD player not an Average COD player who plays Warzone and 6v6 MP.
Go watch Tom Hendersons leak on Vanguard now he's completely silent about BF2042.
And Didn't MW and Infinite Warfare have Cinematics like Vanguard?
So Battlefield can be 100/10 on Launch because it is a Battlefield game.But COD cannot be Broken on Launch 0/100 👍👌.It's like as if Battlefield2042 not having a Campaign is a good decision.
@@ChandranPrema123 This is kind of why Call of Duty just needs a massive studio to pump games out every 3 years instead of every year; we might get more Black Ops 3's if it were like that; Black Ops II and III were the peak of the franchise.
Okay so here's how you "approach a game like a movie" and succeed. Make those cool cinematics ,then find every part you can make playable /have happen while we are in control and have the more set up shots be short "we lose control,see the shot then gain control" moments and boom players love it.
@@ChandranPrema123 this game has been in “development” since 2017.
Why can't a company make Steel Battalion:Heavy Armour but you are a soldier on the ground? Having Mechs fight while you are shooting troops on the ground, mech rounds splitting your teammates in half with blood everywhere showing the chaos in war I'm that universe?
Activision: "we need memorable characters, like masterchief"
Also Activision: makes 6 forgettable characters instead of a single memorable one.
Like they didn't create FUCKING SOAP MCTAVISH
@@bp4861 😢 who?
Captain Price. Soap. Ghost. Gaz. Roach.
And also Mason, Woods, Hudson, Weaver, Reznov, and even now with cold war, I'd argue Adler was made as an iconic character.
I could name more
Laughs in Captain John Price
Ethan
"Approach this game as if it was a movie."
So you basically made a movie instead. Ah yes... nice logic there
They did the same shit with the new Guardians game and people are so into the whole Marvel shit they don't even care.
I'd rather just watch saving private Ryan on repeat than play this shit.
@@adamrogers1233 very well said
What's funny is that it's been done to death by other games. So marketing this as a unique feature or concept just tells me that these devs are naive.
The thing is even movie are getting better they're also making show set on WWII and sometimes their female soldiers but it believable of why their there watch Warsaw 1944, downfall, and others on Amazon and Netflix
But cod wanna be stuck in the 90s with the Pearl harbor approach because big explosion if they're going back to their root everything would be more grounded
Guaranteed the guy sitting next to her yells out “wE nEeD mOrE DiVeRsItY!” at every meeting
WE NEED MORE WEED!
"The enemy AI is far more A than I"
-Internet Historian
Fantastic quote
You sir are a man of culture
which video was that?
@@FortyOneAlpha The fall of 76
Best gd channel
This franchise has officially become the Madden of FPS games.
And unless all of us know it is a shitty game, the production doing a long review for this "product".. Paid or supported marketing...
Naw man, COD at least has the decency to change it's scenery somewhat for each installment unlike Madden or Fifa so it's just a smidgen better, still shit tho
Um you’re 12 yrs too late to say that. Because I’ve been saying that since 2009.
Its been the Madden of fps for at least 15 years
@@mikeycrackson it's trendy to say this every year apparently
I actually laughed my ass off when Joe said "it sucks" and ended it.
Omg that was funny.
That was enough of a review for me.
barebone as the game
The dude looks high as fuck
@@TheMCmace hahahaha
Angry Joe: "I got a little Angry..."
Everyone in the Audience: "Thats... why I am here..."
I read this in Obi wan Kenobi's voice from when he goes to Kamino Cloning facility
That’s what we’ve been waiting for 😈
I love Joe in the beginning.
"It sucks." He rolls credits. Basically saying; 'You won't put effort into the game, I won't put effort in reviewing it. Simple.' That was savage Joe. lmao XD
Edit: Wow, thank you for all the likes and responses. I wasn't expecting it when I commented this. :D
Is it a true ww2 game they said it was
But its not
@@Nolongerhereanymore it come WW2 for the fans and now they fight on with game is worst battlefield 2042 or this game.
Um oka?
This man is a legend
What I love is that years ago he said he always wanted to make a review where he says that and the credits roll XD
"What if you approach this game as if it were a movie"
Me: What if you approach this game, as if it were a game.
Yeah, I thought we realised how dumb turning games into movies was years ago.
@@TheBlackSeraph you don’t know certain fandoms then...
Did you hear her at (15:23)?! They want to break down walls! Just like the PC Left want to do... Not all of em', but this lot does. They want to break down minority walls, which is fine, but with stupid ideas that don't work. They're mixing the two into an AGENDA, and the idiocy needs to stop. Because this is just the latest case, both in gaming and Hollywood.
Not to mentioned that the Last of Us did it better without it’s cutscenes being mostly unplayable.
@@williamyoung9401 Buddy, I think you've smoken a lot of weed. Pass me that joint.
I would have rather had a World at War remaster. Miss old times
8:47 The fact a 2009 Call of Duty game did have an animation for when a dog attacks you, is just plainly sad how this game doesn’t even give you one 😂
2007.
Also in the jungle mission with the Japanese, there is no animation when they banzai charge you where you can get out. They just insta kill you. Cod World at war have that animation and it came out in 2008 Lol 😂
@@christianbethel LOL, even sadder
Ww2 and vanguard are an absolute disgrace to WaW
I was about to say that in og modern warfare they had actual animation on the dogs biting off your throat and also had a small QuickTime event to get away from them.
Translating cinematic moments to gameplay is one of the few things that CoD campaigns usually get right, now they don't even have that going on for them.
Yep. I remember when i briefly see band of brother scene where they need to cover a medic while he carry a wounded soldier to safety. My dad said this was inspiration for call of duty
Sometimes later there is an objective in Call of Duty 1 where you need to cover a medic while he does the same thing as what ive seen in my brief look on band of brothers. And in that sequence i feel like i was the part of band of brother characters squad.
@@ashraarrafi5810 The Brecourt mission from COD 1 is based on an episode of band of Brothers lol
Brutal. Jesus… tough year. COD fails ultra-hard, then BF, FC6, Cyberpunk 1 year ago…
Honesty, I never trust a studio that tries to make games "like movies." I'm not a CoD fan so I didn't know about that until this video. Movies are reactive (audience reacting to what's happening in the movie), video games are interactive (audience is interacting with what is happening in the game). Failure to understand that means that your game is damned.
The Order 1886 is a perfect example. Actual gameplay only made up about a quarter of the whole experience. The rest was just cutscenes, walking and QTEs.
@@NexusKin I thought it was a great game but I guess I was so sucked into the graphics, cause for that time period they were nuts.
Hideo Kojima would like a word lol.
Tbf halo 2 (I think) was trying to act like a movie and was very very successful
A movie can be very cinematic while also being interactive. It can also be very linear but still fun and interactive, but a lot of teams either don’t have the time or the ability to allow you to interact with it while still showing the story and pushing you to move forward. Easier to add a waypoint and a cutscene trigger than it is to make the environment such that it leads you to where you need to go, and the events are interesting enough that you’re gonna look at and understand them without being forced into a cutscene or just have control taken away from you.
The fact that the majority of players will sit on ship haus 24/7 to camo grind for warzone, a game mode which is currently unplayable through bugs, says a lot about the franchise
Part of the “memorable character” thing that they missed is that for the longest time, COD was a lot like the Sherlock Holmes books, in that, the main character/protagonist is not actually the viewpoint character. Sherlock Holmes is the main character, but watson is the narrator. It’s the same here, the true main characters were the Reznovs and Prices and Gazs and whatnot, rather than the player character, and this was actually very effective, it worked with how the game operates. The only outlier here is Soap, and even then, we only know him from seeing him from an alternate view in MW3 and Price’s reaction to him. But Soap didn’t need to be the star of the show, in fact, it was perfect that he wasn’t. Once you start creating “star” playable characters in COD, the player just taps out, bc they’re not there for that. COD built its status on faceless, storyless MCs. It works.
Actually COD built it's status on multiplayer ;)
@@TokyoKazama No
@@C4DeadCharge As in No problemo?
@@TokyoKazama As in no, that’s wrong. CoD built its status on campaigns.
Lots of players didn't realize that the COD series had pushed the bar (player taste) of AAA Military Single Player FPS Campaign to a level that cause this entire genre dying out, just like what Mario series have done to the 3D Platformer...
It’s like Hideo Kojima said : “The easiest way to make money is to make a game where everyone is on an island trying to shoot each other…..”
Congratulations he just sums up pretty much every mp games we have nowadays
Just playing far cry 6 while reading this 🤣
Astrea G&C JESUS Kojima shouted it out years ago 👌
Those games are still better than Death Stranding at least
To be honest i rather play a game that you shoot each other on an island it sounds more fun to me than just walking and climbing an empty openworld delivering package and watching weird cutscenes.
literally every major character in bo1 was and is still iconic... (Mason, Woods, Hudson, Reznov, etc)
Nobody knows who tf they are. Only gluttons for punishment have stuck around for year after year of trash
@@captured_agent5714 God you’re insufferable
@@Nick-uf3he sleep now little nephew
@@Nick-uf3he He ain't wrong.
So iconic they put them into the story of Cold War somehow? Idk how I skip that cutscene
Imagine making a WW2 game, going heavy on the cutscenes so that “things would feel more grounded and real” and simultaneously choosing this as your cast of characters… 😂
Liberals don't think, thats the problem.
the reason why those spokespeople said this is because
THEY ARE ALL DEAD
THATS WHY
@@USADroopyMeat1099 So would the Vanguard team if they were in real life WW2.
@@iamsinistar8971 maybe what makes you say that
@@USADroopyMeat1099 Well the Berlin mission is one because taking a plane to get out of a city being invaded by the Soviet Union is suicide. And even if they decided to stick around the Soviets would've executed them anyway cause of all that nazi treasure in the plane.
“They fly now!”
Rise of skywalker really has taken a toll
Lmao boots on the ground combat “nazis fly away”
On me, she said goodbye too many times before
"No iconic characters"
I haven't played Call of Duty in years and can still name a few, like Price, Soap, Reznov, Woods, Mason, Ghost, Dimirti, Roebuck and Roach. And that's just off the top of my head.
THANK you.
He’s obviously talking about the creation of new iconic characters not the same ones youve been spoon fed and have been rebooted to get your attention. All those characters are iconic from cods golden days literally didn’t name anyone from bo3 and up
Those all are from damn near a decadeago at this point lol
One thing they all have in common ... they're all white males if memory serves right
@@noteminemsburneraccount324 so is master chief
I look forward to these reviews more than the actual game.
I would have to agree, my dad was telling me about this game and I was like "may God rest his soul".
preach brother
Same and most game I like he doesnt review them lmfao
Looks like we have the same thought here brother Route 77! Amen 🙏
unfortuneatly there are many shills ADVERTISING this game and praising it which is sad. game is miles worse even than cold war. cold war is like good mix between wooden old cods sprinkled with MW2019 mechanics. this. this is just MW2019 with WW2 mod.
8:40 died instant to the dog.
he bit you and you where unvaccinated.
that is instant killing right there
So good to see Joe get this mad about a bad game. Feels like it's been ages
Battlefield 2042 angry rant was rage pure.
Madden one was the best 👌
@@reinaldosolivan3605 normally is ngl
GTA Trilogy probably next...
@@Ondr4H I hope so lol will be hilarious
"The greatest source of realism is imperfection."
In that case, Call of Duty Vanguard is an incredibly, deceptibly realistic game.
It’s what happens when you let woke organizations who lack real world experience and creativity who only care about making money create a game.
@@SFRR22D This is mostly the result of corporate interest groups wanting a new Cod game released every year.
@@memezoffuckery3207 nah. Three years was the last ww2. They don’t give a fuck. Just as long as there is a woman sniper who is doing Krav Maga so they can say they are a woke team who care about our feelings as gamers.
If the companies were “”””woke””””” as you idiots keep putting it, they’d pay their people a decent wage and support a healthy work environment.
Given that Activision Blizzard’s entire upper management is currently under investigation for SEXUAL ABUSE and general toxicity, I think we can safely say they’re about as woke as a Elaine Esposito right now.
@@barleysixseventwo6665 I think that's the point were are trying to make my friend. Woke "ism" is fake. pandering BS. a smoke screen for who they really are. They make superman gay or add in some front line infantry women. bad asses doing karate and killing nazis to appease so called gamer feelings, but behind the scenes are corrupt AF and only care about making money . Kind of like the current US administration. you are almost there you just need to really read what we are saying. us "idiots" see through the smoke. its time everyone starts opening their eyes.
I do like how the dev talked about realism while adding glass optics to sub machine guns. Lmao.
I like how people constantly cry about "historical accuracy" like a video game is a fucking documentary or something...You people must hate movies like Inglorious Basterds and Saving Private Ryan since neither of those are historically accurate and neither happened......
@@lutherheggs451 well if games like COD or BF are going to CLAIM that they're using realism then we're going to judge them on realism, especially something so obviously not correct
@@lutherheggs451 I can handle stretching my limit of disbelief but there are limits
@@lutherheggs451 There’s suspending disbelief, and then there’s being stupid to the point of unreality. This game makes Harry Potter look realistic. And also, COD used to be all about realism as close as they could get with early processing power, and honoring the people who fought in these wars. Now it’s a cash grab with as much realism and thought put into it as a stick figure drawn by a child.
@@casual_speedrunner1482 You’re trying to reason with somebody who hates his own history. These people are lost beyond any basic common sense.
Honestly my biggest gripe with new CoD games is the ttk being extremely short. I felt Black Ops 1 was great because it gave you time to fight back.
As AVGN said:
"This game sucks. This is all that it comes to."
All I had to do was watch AJ's face for 3 seconds, and I knew this game was garbage, LOL!!!! TY, AJ!!!! =D
Stop giving Activision money...
The way they programmed the dog enemies are just lazy especially when medal of honor on the PS1 did them better Activision is pathetic
Finally, a game that captures perfectly the true horrors that the german created, flying soldiers, poisonous dogs...
Truly DARK stuff
A game that's not scared to show what really happened in WW2
Nah. No game will never do that kind of thing. Just read history books
and speaking english like it's their native language.....
Yup, surprising they didnt mention that Germans was eating babies to breakfast aswell
The true horror was seeing a female sniper..
Sledgehammer: “We’re going back to boots on the ground”
Also Sledgehammer: 7:10
God,I've seen this joke a thousand times.
I would like to know your location
@@b0ss294 Careful how you say that name
6:20 is no joke. my year old son played in one of those and had to be hospitalized for a week for an unknown infection. Scariest moment of my life. He's ok now so I can laugh about it.
“Play a level, Watch a movie” needs to become a meme.
To be fair, that was always COD's MO.
What did he mean by this? Call of Metal Gear?
@@Ioo-nd6hf he meant for every level you play you have to sit through a 90 minute cutscene
99% of AAA games these days trying to be more like movies.
@@mrimpossible4353 that was the joke.
Boots on the ground has the same energy as bethesda’s “it just works”
SixTeeN tIMeS the dEtAiL
Boots have been on the ground for like 5 years.
Want Advanced Warfare,BO3 and Infinite Warfare? Want Exo Suits?
Edit:I loved Infinite Warfare's Campaign it's one of my most favourites but just asking for an another Jet Pack game because Infinite Warfare had a lot of potential tbh
@@ChandranPrema123 yes
@@ChandranPrema123 i take those anyday over this shit
No memorable cod characters
Price: WE ARE LEA-VING
Sledgehammer: Good bye you oppressive racists bigots!
Me: Good bye Deactivison-bLizard🦎
My name is VIKTOR REZNOV
RAMIREZ
The numbers Mason
Makarov: Remember, no rusian
Woods the damn onion
I think she meant iconic characters, but people don't go to COD for that. Yeah, you have memorable ones in the franchise but she wants 1 person people think of when they think of the franchise, someone who's in multiple COD, which explains why they wanna do multiple Vanguards. It's stupid and so out of touch of them.
The reason this game still bothers me is because of this:
My older cousin (who is not a gamer mind you) got me this for Christmas one year. Of course I was grateful but I also felt bad for her because she had no idea what she was buying and just picked something new out. (No I did not ask for it) and bless her heart for the consideration.
About 2 months later I get the chance to trade it in. You know what they gave me? TWENTY DOLLARS. that’s it. Twenty bucks for a game that cost my cousin 89.99CAD
“The greatest source of realism is imperfection.”
Imma use this when handing in my term paper.
And the greatest source of delusion is accepting. Don’t ever settle for less.
In that case this game is insane realism
Or you can say "you can't rush perfection," then never turn it in.
@@dabeln1I like that one
The fact that they actually stated CoD doesn't have any memorable main characters really shows the true colors of these devs. They don't even know their own franchise. I would wager plenty of them have never even played a CoD game. This game couldn't be more manufactured and passion starved if it tried.
If anyone is interested in playing a game as good as those cut scenes, it does exist. It's called Battlefield 1.
i think it's not about not knowing their franchise. It's the usual marketing crap. Like when a franchise that had, for example, a well liked and overall well received female character suddenly gets the announcement that the next installment "Will finally have the first cool, major, awesome great female character In the history of the franchise!!!". It's basically them trying to gaslight the consumers into THINKING the new character(s) is as awesome and deep and blablabla as they creators want the people to perceive.
Hmmm, let's see if they check any of the boxes
LBGT ❌
P.O.C. ❌
Not Cis Male ❌
Sorry none of those characters Chek any of the appropriate boxes.
Or....just play World at War. No big cutscenes, but it's still a brutal shooter. Just watch out. On veteren, the AI tends to throw buckets of grenades at ya.
@@aweshetdima2157 More like they're all tethered to your leg and all shots are magnetized to you. I had to cheese the AI so much to beat it on veteran.
New hire women straight from gender studies.
I love how everyone they interviewed looks like they've never played a video game in their life
Also how they talk like they're the first people in history to put a cutscene in a game, and that we need explanation of the differences between games and movies.
@@Dcook85 Good point, it's indeed insulting. They should know that most people that will buy it are gamers for 5-20 years.
those are just pr dudes who had nothing to do with making the game but even they looked bored and had no confidence in what they were saying
@@Dcook85 like they never heard of Hideo Kojima
Lol video game, this is an interactive cut scene simulator 😂
13:18 That name sounded familiar to me and then I remembered he was the cinematographer for Oppenheimer and other Nolan movies
If it were up to these devs, the No Russian scene from MW2 would take place entirely in a cutscene.
nah they would say its offensive and be scrapped
Want a Better WW2 game with Vanguard in it's title ?
Just play Medal Of Honor: Vanguard
@@Rorschach1998 lol I could never play those tradh games medal of honor was horrible every single game
Wade certainly feels like an iconic, memorable character... one will always remember, how Joe screamed at him, when he was in the way...
"You only have that in Call of Duty games." Yeah... NO other game in the history of gaming has an iconic character to remember...Master Chief, Artyom, Mario... I'm not sure her glasses are big enough.
COD WAW: You play as a grunt on two fronts of the war, and experience the horrors that come with it
COD Vanguard: You play as a fighter pilot with slow motion superpowers and aimbot
World At War was a frighteningly good game.
@@boarfaceswinejaw4516 Indeed. No other COD game has matched that games unrelenting intensity and horror
I would buy a COD WaW remaster. I would love to get the multiplayer too, but I would settle for for just the campaign
Loved WAW especially the War mode. One time I killed the entire team with a sticky grenade (7? Kills) at the beginning of a match. Unfortunately they killed me before the grenade blew up so I didnt get my kill streaks.
WaW campaign truly under appreciated, I remember the coop with strangers and playing the paintball card.
“HEEEYYYY i thought this was boots on the ground??” Fricking killed me 😂🤣
The fact that the campaign KNOWS it's so poorly paced that it has to RESTRICT sprint speed so you don't go FASTER than the story is the most beautiful comedy I've ever seen.
Wait there is sprint limit?
Joe: Why would they take out guns that everyone loves?!
The rest of the class: So they can sell it back to you for real money!!!!!!!
Ah, so you play Destiny as well.
@@JBob08 thé Gjallahorn.. I’m already buy it for December lol
@@JBob08 Lol, who plays Destiny?
they dont just sell it to you though, you can earn it via challenges
They won't sell it to you but they will sell you credits and with those credits you can buy a chance to randomly receive the ray gun.
It's funny that MW2 characters didn't have these cinematic introductions. You just played the game and the characters just stood out through the storyline themselves. RIP Ghost.
Because MW2 is a masterpiece while this game… is just simply bland
People these days need introductions for everyone because "muh story"
The MW2 campaign had a 90’s action packed story and with action packed levels, with alpha male characters that looked aesthetically badass.
They were socially inept, and didn’t say cringe Superman dialogues. All the spec ops characters were all serious and on that Sigma grindset to complete the missions they were tasked.
Long live Sgt. Foley & cpl.Dunn
This game and everybody who made it was the very definition of the word mediocre
How about those death scenes in each call of duty game since 2003 it’s the definition of insanity
"Historical accuracy" there is none in the first place. This game is like if netflix directed a WW2 movie
CoD: Vanguard is basically an Netflix adaptation of a WW2 movie.
Don’t act as if DICE and EA are any better with their story modes. Absolute shit tier multiplayer with no inclusive “rEaLiSm”. I wonder if this is what RockStar did, oh wait, they did. With Red Dead Redemption 2. Zzzzzzz, *snores* this is so tiring. Why do I hafta sound like a broken record player? Just why? You know the multiplayer for BF1, and V sucked. No realistic warfare, everyone ran with assault class using SMG, LMG, in WW1 trench warfare? Gtfo, narrow mindedness. No wonder you guys get shit games.
They might as well just turn CoD into a movie series. The stories are decent action military thrillers and, clearly, making movies is what they really want to do anyway.
@@MagklJellyBeanPastelLucidDream “Shit games” and Red Dead Redemption 2.
You seem like you wanna die my guy.
Even Netflix would be more historically accurate then this crap V i can agree but bf1 was a really fun game
This game deserves a 2/10 at most
could have been 0.5/10 based on steep curve of losing players since release. At most like the way it is.
and bf 2042 is like 4/10
Stop buying these shitty games
It’s a 0/10 for me , i fell like I played this game 5 years ago , because i did they release the same shit every year
Scripted BS 🎯
Rip to Billy's whole family line that Joe just massacred.
While I was the 66th like, it was joe who executed order 66 on Billy’s family
"What if you were to approach this game as if it was a movie"
•
THEN I'D RENT A FUCKING MOVIE. 🤦🏻♂️
The issue is simple Joe. The masses have gotten too attached to mindless multiplayer, so they'll buy the game even if the campaign is terrible *because they don't care about the campaign.*
.:
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Im not saying this game is good, but you have a very elitist opinion.
@@hhhfdsfs that's not an opinion. Less than 1% of the playerbase completes the campaign
@Best Montage except it does matter, while many play multiplayer, not everyone does and in top of that it's a third of the game, so your either paying 60-70$ for 2/3 of a game or you pay 60-70$ for a full game, which would you rather have for the same price 2/3 or the full package being good
@Best Montage no, I don't think your opinion counts for 99% of players so get off your high horse and look at these games objectively, it never had to be cut this and cut that, it never had to be half ass this so this parts good, it wasn't until recent when such a stupid sentiment arisen when all the games are either partially good or not at all, I don't remember BO1 and 2 ever needing to sacrifice a fine campaign for a multiplayer, hell they even added arcade mode in bo1, did that sacrifice any quality l, no it really didn't, now people like you are the problem who only think the part they like should be good instead of the whole, that's such a stupid narrow minded thought that it's actually kinda painful to see throughout the fanbase.
I love how the Steiner "Boss" is the exact same as when you play as Farah in Modern Warfare 2019 and take down the Russian soldier. Couldn't even think of a new way to do a fight like that.
What we wanted from an MW19 reskin mod for hell of a mone
atleast it was good in mw, you were a little girl hiding from a hulk of a soldier.
I was 100% waiting for Joe to yell "They fly now!" and he did not disappoint me. Thank you Joe I'm dying laughing lol
We knew about Flying Dutchmen, but flying Germans?!?
me 2!
@@carnivorehitman So we can say theyre flying Deutschmann.
@@ashraarrafi5810 😂
Read this comment right as it happened.
35:10 This is exactly why in any FPS game with weapon progression (camos, attatchments, etc), you absolutely NEED to have it be a purely points-based system, with no references individual k1lls or headsh0ts. Terms like weapon exp and say "critical hit points" could stand in perfectly, and be scaled based on the game mode, even dynamically for certain seasonal events, to promote new modes, or if the devs notice they were wrong about the real pacing of certain modes (because players will definitely find out and flock to it if they find any notable discrepencies). For example, the same pub-stomping player may get 70-80 elims in a frantic 10v10 mode, where they may only get 15-20 in a plant and defuse mode (even though each individual one was far more difficult and contributed far more to the outcome of the match)... so if any challenges are requiring any specific number of anything, playing plant/defuse modes is just wasting your time if your goal is to unlock things. Vague points systems let players experience more of the game or just do the things they enjoy most, without feeling like they're missing out by not playing the fastest TTK modes.
The craziest thing: This is "famed special ops unit" all centered on them on ONE MISSION TOGETHER.
I wouldn't say famed seeing that they are covert ops and nobody was supposed to know they existed
2 technically, but I see that argument
@@HowToNotMeta Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was all part of the same mission seeing nobody tasked them to search for the kraut leader after freeing themselves
what I'm most confused about was I thought this game was about the FSSF which didn't have a single Russian in it. So no Canadians but there's a Russian? I was under the influence that they wanted to tell a story based on real events not make up some bullshit.
@@Latrine1999 is this latrine from ifunny