Sengoku Jidai: The Onin War 1467-1477
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- First installment of Japanese Sengoku period video series.
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Music used:
Jeff Van Dyck - The Shoto
Jeff Van Dyck - For the Daimyo
Impact Andante - Kevin MacLeod
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This is the first episode of the Sengoku Jidai series, which was chosen by my Patrons. Hopefully it's good enough :)
great choice ! i m sure it s gonna be awesome
Very nice.
awesome!
Nice job. Any chance of covering post-gunpowder battles?
Do the battle of Didgori.
So the Shogun's brother who had been living as a monk shows up and suddenly his wife falls pregnant. Seems legit
For all we know, that was part of the deal. Especially if the Shogun was into poetry and tea parties. If you know what I mean...
Dan Boud maybe a was a swish,
Has notttthiiing to do with iiiittt...
The Brother should have stayed a Monk.
@@danboud8135 no I don't understand.
Gave me a small heart attack. :-) Thankfully, we are working on another video about the history of Japan. :-)
Good to see u here!
Good to be here. :-)
Could you just focus on the other first before making the Japanese one please...
Hello Kings and Generals. May I ask. What are your plans for the future? Would you continue with Napoleonic wars or with the Ottoman Conquest? Or are you planning on doing a parallel series?
The order of our lizard overlords. :-)
Everyone voted so hard that the palace caught on fire and burned down
But the shogun didn't care he was off somewhere doing poetry
And the whole country broke into pieces
vesteel ah a man of culture
Ah, I see your a man of culture as well.
I guess...
And drinking tea!
Everyone is fighting with each other for local power and it's anybody's game
Knock knock, it's Europe, no they're not here to take over, they just wanna sell some shit, like clocks... And guns... And JESUS
Soldier: "Are we the baddies, sozen?"
Sozen: "Do you see any skulls in our uniforms?"
underrated comment, love mitchell and webb :D
Soldier: "Does Demons with horns count????"
Time to load up Total War Shogun 2 again...
FIFTEEN FORTY FIVE...
What a shamefur dispray!!!
M-My RORD! THE MEN ARE FLEEING FROM THE BATTURFIERD! SH-SHAMEFUR DISPRAY!
One of your units have used up Alllllll it's ammunition my lowrd
The enemy generawr has fallen! A c u t t i n g blow
The Shogun did not care he was off doing some poetry.
A... A SHAMEFUR DISPRAY!
OURRR MEN ARE RUNNING GG FROM THE BATTLEFIELDDDDDD.
gods!
Shogun 2 jokes naaaaaaver gets old.
Baddo Wurufu san. Donto du disu
always funny,never gets old
It's good to see a video of the Sengoku Period that's not about Nobunaga and focuses on less known events. Great video, Baz!
its the start of Sengoku Jidai... I'm sure Nobunaga Oda will be featured in another video i.e. the Battle of Nagashino
Nobunaga comes around 130 years later, they'll touch on that too, aye.
i mean he was pretty good at bearing those sandals.
GerackSerack Lol Nobunaga from HxH
I wish those Sengoku Jidai Period Video Games start with Uncle vs Nephew Battle, not Nobunaga's Rise.
Your videos are awesome keep it up. Of all the other history channels I've seen UA-cam, the production quality here is the vest best. Really enjoying your videos!
Griff
It's pretty good but try The Great War and Kings & Generals, they're amazing too ;)
O snap Armchair Griff! You guys are awesome as well!
Good to see some Asian history! Love it! Great work as always
It's Japanese history
@@donjuanmckenzie4897Japanese people are Asian last time i checked
I'm always impressed how this guy pronounces every cultures's names correctly.
actually he mostly pronounces the names except for the sounds t and d, which are pronounced with retroflex, which is wrong.
“Are we the baddies?”
I love it!
*HOW ABOUT SUNRISE LAND?*
*HOW BOUT I DO... ANYWAYYY*
Yea but where are the ninjas n shit
look behind y
Preoccupied with their wizard battles. Some nut's trying to project a mass mind control spell off the moon so a fifteen year old orphan and an amature rapper have to stop him. Just another tuesday really.
The term ninja is really just a rogue samurai I believe who lost there master or "sensei". Could be wrong though haven't researched Japanese warriors in a while.
You're thinking of Ronin.
Ninjas are Chinese
It’s time for who’s going to be the next shogun. Usually it’s the shogun’s kid, but the shogun doesn’t have a kid so he tries to get his brother to quit being a monk and be the next shogun. But then the shogun has a kid.
So, now who’s it gonna be? Vote now on your phones.
And everyone voted so hard that the palace caught on fire and burned down. (The shogun actually didn’t care he was off somewhere doing poetry.)
I'm not very knowledgeable on Japanese history but I can already foresee an absolute clusterfuck on the horizon trying to figure out who's who and what they did
Is it done, Yuri?
No Comrade Premier, Japan has only begun.
kirovs shadows approach...
"most likely died from natural causes" I like to think ninjas took them out :D
Yeah there's almost no chance that 2 leaders die in the same time.
the onion war
It layer a clan
Any eu4,ck2 players here?
no go away
me
Ryuku World conquest
CK 2 for life
i'm. but this video is for total war shugan 2 😂.
6:31. "natural" causes (c). Ninjas approve this version of events =)
OUR MEN ARE RUNNING FROM THE BATTLEFIELD!! THIS IS A SHAMEFULL DISPLAY.
REPLY
A'elDvi i never heard him say this because i never lost
Time to start up Shogun 2
Totally. Best of the series.
Beauty and harmony, governed by one eternal law. All that begins must end.
THE REIGN OF THE OLD SHOGUNATE IS OVER!!!!
Very nice can’t wait to Oda Nobunagas rise and the Battle of sekigahara
Nobunaga's first battle was around 1555, this is around 70 years before.
4 years ago
A war caused by a woman and ended in nothing but death without a winner
fucking love your youtube channel, make vids faster!
VOTE NOW ON YOUR PHONES FOR THE NEXT SHOGUN
Gotta love the Mitchel and Webb Look reference.
"Are we the baddies?"
Just imagine how this video would be if Billy Wurtz narrated the entire video
UncivilSum you mean Bill wurtz right
Heh, yeah...I can only imagine...
With jingles and stuff
Dat Shogun 2 music
Good episode once again. However, in my opinion, you are at your best when you can go into the tactics of the battle. Which unfortunately the last videos lacked. Still great content, but would love to see more battles where the tactics shines.
Can you please do the Battle of Towton? It was the largest battle of the War of the Roses and one of the biggest battles in medevil history.
+Wanderer628 28,000 dead in a single day, after Watling Street, Britains second bloodiest battle.
I know this is really late, but Kings and Generals did a video over Towton not less than 3 weeks ago
Shogun total war 2 sound track
Yoshimasa: Robert Baratheon
Yoshimi: Stannis Baratheon
Yoshihisa: Joffrey
Yoshimasa's wife: Cersei
You can't be further away from Robert than Yoshimasa XD
Actually the Baratheon familly was much inspired (from Martin's says themselves) by the Plantagenets of England; and Robert is clearly a character inspired by Richard Lion Hart, all the way to the ridiculous death ;) (For Richard it was a stray arrow during a siege while, as the legend has it, he was getting near to the walls to congratulate an ennemy defender on his skill).
But then both Japan and England were in kind of a bind in the 15th century.
Women...
Anyone else thought it Said the onion War?
The war that caused many tears.
The weebs are gonna love this
So did everyone think that Yoshimasa was gay or something?
Finally, something outside of Europe.
black ops but i thought Europe and America is earth
black ops European warfare is far more interesting though. Japans isolation made them far technology inferior and they never developed plate armor, swords other than shitty katanas, and never used shields. European warfare is so much more interesting as a 15th century european army would destroy a 17th century Japanese army
wrong, wrong and wrong. Samurai armor was made of metal, they even had chainmail. they also had a very varied selection of arms, katanas were side arms just like arming swords for a european knight, their primary weapon was polearms. samurais didn't use shield because they fought in horseback, but their shoulder armor worked kinda like shield, but foot soldiers did used hand held shields though.
and they were masters of warfare, when you are fighting non stop for almost 100 years you gotta learn a thing or two, when they invaded Korea no one could stop them in land, even the Chinese had a hard time, if it wasn't for the absolute defeat on sea they could have conquered all the way to china.
and about technology, they loved firearms, during the Sengoku Jidai there were more Arquebuses in Japan than in all europe, some say one of the reasons Oda Nobunaga was so sucessful was because of his pioneer use of firearms in open combat.
the discussion about who would win is pretty mute, Japanese were masters in fighting other japanese, if they faced Europeans they wouldn't have the tools and strategies to deal with them, but they would adapt or die, if you are fighting a enemy you were not trained to face, then your only option is to see what you are doing wrong and learn what you need to face the new enemy.
"Japan was at war during the Sengoku Period between 1467 and 1590, as feudal lords vied for supremacy.[7] Matchlock guns were used extensively and had a decisive role in warfare. In 1549, Oda Nobunaga ordered 500 matchlocks to be made for his armies."
"Japan became so enthusiastic about the new weapons that it possibly overtook every European country in absolute numbers produced.[9] Japan also used the guns in the Japanese invasion of Korea in 1592, in which about a quarter of the invasion force of 160,000 were gunners.[15] They were extremely successful at first and managed to capture Seoul just 18 days after their landing at Busan.[16]"
about firearms in the sengoku jidai its probably a exaggeration, its just something I read people say. when they introduced the Portuguese firearms it was already popular in Europe. but Oda was one of the first to get real use from firearms in open battle when they were still not very effective unless in specific situations. the first large battle won by the extensive use of firearms happened just half a century ago, and europeans didn't expand the use of firearms until the beginning of the 17th century, until then they used mostly cannons. though the Ottomans and Turks did use Muskets quite a lot, I think they were actually the first to actually use firearms extensively to the point that by the 17th century, cavalry charge was obsolete. I also read that the fact that early firearms didn't work very well against the strongly armored european soldiers, so it took some time until later designs were so effective that it would make other forms of warfare obsolete, can't confirm that though.
Danilo Oliveira this man wrote a mini dbq?
"The reign of the old shogunate, IS OVAH!"
time to play shogun 2 i guess
OW MEN AH RUNNEEEN FROM DA BATTERFEERD! SHAMFUR DISPRAY!
Vote now on your phones
Oh boy. There is alot of stuff that needs to be explained. First of all I dont think its a good idea to skip the Hatakeyama family schism. It was one of the primary issues of the Onin War and it continued for decades after until grandchildren and great grandchildren finished it. Furthermore to completely not even mention the Shiba family war which was another of the primary components of the onin war is another baffling omission.
Also the situation with the Emperor and the retired Emperor. Furthermore Ouchi Masahiro was NOT a Yamana vassal. He was his ally.
That was extremely interesting and well executed.
> _sees BazBattles upload new video_
Hmm?
> _sees new video series_
Real shit?
> _sees Sengoku Jidai series_
*A S C E N D E D*
Time to hire some samurai.
History of Japan.
I hope there will be videos on Chinese battles in the future. great video!
Great video, would love to see more Japanese battles.
So one of the claimants turned to his rival's side... Nothing too crazy
Japan used to have such a great culture... now they have anime and waifus...
That comment just show ignorant you really are about Japan...
Rick Ling Why is my waifu on your profile pic?
yeah they really improved
Rick Ling lol, first weaboo triggered, and idk, i just love Mario, its one of the few things that I actually like about Japan, Japan used to have men who fought sword to sword with katanas for honor, now they get in love with bodypillows.
You could say that about literally any country
I would love to see the rise of some very famous clans like the Shimazu, the Mori, the Oda, the Matsudaira (Tokugawa) and the late Hojo clans. Also, the histories of the Takeda and the Uesugi clans would be very interesting.
Another example of a woman's power ambitions causing a war that tore apart a system
totally, recognize that with only looking at the cause and the war after effect. Heir authority should have been given to Yoshimi.
It wasn't only a woman's ambition. It was also the ambitions of the nobles that used the succession issue as a pretext for the war which they continued even when the succession was resolved. We're all capable of selfish ambitions.
I'm pretty sure Kay Kew is just kidding around.
It's a popular joke on the internet to blame everything on women, kinda like "thanks obama" meme.
Nothing sexism here btw :)
Kay Lew I feel like you probably don't have a healthy attitude towards women.
Big Bill O'Reilly
I lOve yOu
Deus vult?
Deus vult.
DEUS VULT!
pieisdelish1 dead meme
What does it mean
神がそれを望まれる！
2:33 I like the cute sound Yoshihisa made :')
Pls fall of constantinapol
ua-cam.com/video/nJ2T9HNCUTQ/v-deo.html Reply history did a good enough version of it.
Its Conquest of Kostantiniyye.
El Psy its not neutral...
Only a few minutes in. Just wanted to add a few things to anyone interested.
First of all Yoshimasa was never supposed to be Shogun. His father, Ashikaga Yoshinori, was also never supposed to be Shogun.
Ashikaga Yoshinori is popularly known as the "evil Shogun." Less commonly known is that in the diary of an imperial court noble Yoshinori was called the "terror of all men." His methods were very tyrannical but also more effective than not.
Due to the familial discord of prior generations in the Ashikaga family (Muromachi/Ashikaga bakufu founder Ashikaga Takauji fought with his brother Tadayoshi as well as his illegitimate son Tadafuyu. His cousin, of the Shiba house also rebelled against him briefly after earning Takaujis ire when he refused to give him a famous sword. Takaujis sons, future second Shogun Yoshiakira and Kamakura Kubo Motouji were also on poor terms owing to Yoshiakiras unwarranted suspicions of his brother) Ashikaga children of the main line whom were not heirs were often made to turn priests as infants. Third Ashikaga Shogun Ashikaga Yoshimitsu did this with most of his children except for his heir, Yoshimochi and his favorite, Yoshitsugu. Yoshimitsu intended to displace his heir, Yoshimochi, with his favorite, Yoshitsugu but he died before he could realize this. Consequently Yoshimochi later killed his younger brother, Yoshitsugu. A little known fact to Western fans of Japanese history, Yoshitsugus descendants survived and lived under the protection of Echizen Shugodai (later, Shugo) the Asakura. These descendants were unofficially called the Echizen kubo. Many decades later when future final Ashikaga Shogun Ashikaga Yoshiaki sought shelter with Asakura, the presence of the Echizen kubo made for an awkward situation.
Yoshimochis heir was Ashikaga Yoshikazu. This young man was, like his father before him, a lush of unrivalled dissipation. He died shortly after becoming Shogun. This left a succession crisis. With all of Yoshimochis brothers in priestly orders there were some in the bakufu councils who felt the only appropriate successor could be the then Kamakura Kanrei Ashikaga Mochiuji. However the Kyoto Kanrei, of the Hatakeyama family, decided to draw lots to settle the dispute. The lot drawn favored Ashikaga Yoshinori whom was also the eldest of Yoshimochis surviving brothers.
Yoshinori was assassinated by Akamatsu Mitsusuke. His heir was Ashikaga Yoshikatsu whom was just a child. (Dont confuse Yoshikazu, Yoshimochis heir, with Yoshikatsu, Yoshinoris heir. Their names are very similar and they both died prematurely but they're different people.) The child Shogun Yoshikatsu died after falling from a horse. In the shrine featuring wooden sculptures of all the Ashikaga shoguns, Yoshikatsus may be the most striking as he stands out a very small child amongst men.
With Yoshikatsu dead the Shogunate fell to Yoshimasa.
In the aftermath of Akamatsu Mitsusukes assassination of Yoshinori the bakufu did not immediately respond. Yoshinori was a tyrant and many high councilors within the bakufu were sympathetic to Akamatsu. Yamana Sozen was not sympathetic in the least and did more than anyone to chastise and kill Mitsusuke. Some of the remaining Akamatsu family fought to regain their lands while others fled. Yamana stamped out many of these Akamatsu family members.
Heading into the Onin War then the two most powerful men in the Shoguns councils were Yamana and Hosokawa.
Interestingly enough these two men worked in concert at first. Hosokawa Katsumoto was in fact Yamanas son in law. Katsumoto had even adopted Yamanas youngest son and made him his designated heir. However, Katsumoto earned Sozens scorn when his future heir, Hosokawa Masamoto was born and Katsumoto subsequently put his adopted son, Yamanas biological son, into priestly orders and disinherited him.
The Onin War was also about new vs old. Hosokawa represented the old families whose affiliation to the Ashikaga Shogunate dates back to the times of Takauji and before. Yamana and one of his primary supporters, Ouchi, represented new powerful Shugo whom came to great power AFTER the establishment of the Shogunate.
Both Ouchi and Yamana had similar histories. Both families at different times had rendered the Shogunate such stunning service that they were rewarded with massive domains. During Ashikaga Yoshimitsus time Ouchi not only ruled supreme in the Chugoku and northern Kyushu, but Ouchi also had holdings in central Japan. Ouchi attempted rebellion however and Yoshimitsu quickly subdued him. It had taken many years but by the time of Onin Ouchi had finally regained his preeminence amongst the Shugo. Its a similar case with Yamana. Yamana family discord lead to strife with the Shogunate and a subsequent curtailing of their territory and powers. By the time of Yamana Sozen, and owing greatly to his chastisement of Akamatsu, Yamana had brought his clan to their pinnacle.
Finally, Ashikaga Yoshimi had been requested to leave his priestly life and assume the position of Yoshimasas heir only after the Shogun had written 3 requests that he do so. Yoshimi had replied that priestly vows were not to be taken lightly and not easily discarded. It wasn't until Yoshimasa specifically wrote Yoshimi in his own hand and swore that even if he had a son born to him, the boy would immediately be entered into the priesthood. With that Yoshimi accepted his brothers offer. And soon thereafter the onin war began.
Where can I find minecraft to install in my laptop???
fuck yeah! Medieval Japan is so freaking interesting!
DEUS VEULT !!!!
Crazy Jester HENTAI VULT
What mean DEUS VEULT?
I think you mean DESU VULT
Elektro basically a White supremacist frace used to incite mass murder against muslims.
Think of it as Christian jihad
Aron Johansson I think sir that what you are refering are the cruasades and his iconic Deus Vult, but sir, I did not ask for that, I ask gentenly what mean Deus Veult. It is really a big enigma for me.
OUR MEN ARE RUNNING FROM THE BATTLEFIELD! SHAMEFRU DISPRAY!
Battle of Marathon please!!!
Hellenic Mapping though it was an importan battle in greek history, it wasnt even a battle, because the persians couldnt even get prepared for battle, so the greeks slaughtered the surprised persians who just jumped out their ships, so there is not much tactic or strategy to talk about.
Em1lic0! Well you have seen only the movie my friend... In reality the Persians had all their army out of the ships and they were in the beach chilling for 3 days before the first Greek arrive... Watch some videos and you will see
Em1lic0! ua-cam.com/video/O2rXmR6DoVk/v-deo.html here watch that
A big chunk of the persian army still didnt arrived on land, the persians chilling were actually waiting for the others to arrive.
Em1lic0! Please watch the video... And I think as a Greek I know better my history than you do :P
Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice.
well, time to fire up shogun 2....
Oh shit we moving to Japan Hell Yeaaahhh!
Yessss! Sengoku Jidai! Finally!
I like the fact you did a video on an Asian based battle. Fucking cool!!
It all started with a Lazy Brother who don't want to be a Shogun.
Basically that
11th Dec 2023 - 10:44pm
Gymmed with Sienna. We did Back and Biceps. She came in and said hello when I was resting ❤
Started Runescape for the Christmas event and GE flipping. Need to go to Al Kharid for 85 attack for GWD.
Watching Jinny go to USS and she got her ASUS ROG Ally at Bugis Junction.
Vote now on your phones!
MORE SENGOKU JIDAI!!!!!
You should do audio books.
Fantastic, one of my favourite time periods in Japanese history.
Можно сэнгоку дзидай?
Shramfu Dispray!
how do u have a surprise child. Like wtf don't let that happen. Observe your woman
Im surprised you guys haven't done the Battle of Agincourt yet
Good choice! The Sengoku Jidai brought forth many great strategists that had some incredibly clever and risky moves up their sleeves to win their battles. I'll enjoy seing you unravel and narrate more battles from the Sengoku period (esp. the ones Takeda Shingen, Toyotomi Hideyoshi, Oda Nobunaga and Tokugawa Ieyasu fought)
Very nice and extraordinarily easy to follow. Thanks for a bright light shone into a very complex lattice of people, places, and events.
hope you'll continue with the japan-centered videos :D i'd love to learn more about this era in more detail. #SengokuJidaiJunkie
LOVE the new map with topological details. Now I can actually see mountains.
Please make more sengoku jidai battles LIKE: 2nd battle of Azukizaka/batogahara, battle of Mikatagahara, Nagashino, battle of komaki and nagakute and SEKIGAHARA
In case anyone missed, watch the video history of japan by bill wurtz
My first time here. Is this channel run by Metatron? If not, he sure sounds like him.
And then everyone voted so hard that the castle caught fire and burned down.
ODAAAAAAAAAAA
Its not Reconquista, but is good to !
as a Japanese , I think Onin war is the No.1 biggest war in Japanese history.
TOTAL WAR SHOGUN 2!!!!
increible, nicely done, narrated and most important the start of the sengoku jidai wars and battles
Peace and harmony... governed by one eternal law. What begins must end... THE REIGN OF THE OLD SHOGUNATE IS OVER!!!
Next Boshin Wars, But I'm afraid its not entirely medieval
There was a period in Japan called son goku jedi? :O
I love this channel!
And i though the HRE was the the most feudal? well this takes feudalism to the extreme!
Man, Japanese wars are weird.
Last
The Onin war isn't really part of the sengoku jidai, it just lead to it
A series about the Reconquista and now another series of the Sengoku Jidai? HELL YES!!!!