The Battle of Avarayr 451 AD

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  • @nanna2318
    @nanna2318 4 роки тому +128

    Vardan’s battle speech to his soldiers,- “Now, I beseech you, oh my brave comrades-in-arms, especially since many of you are better than me in courage and higher in honor and devotion to the throne of fatherland. But when, by your own will, you have appointed me your leader and supreme commander, let my words seem agreeable and desirable to the ears of elder and younger ones. Let us not be afraid of the multitude of pagans, nor let us turn our backs on the great sword of mortal men, that if the Lord gives us victory, we may destroy their power to rise to the truth, and if the time comes to end our lives in this holy war, let us gladly accept it and let us do not mix cowardice into courage and bravery”. Historian Yeghishe, the witness of the battle.

  • @Robi2009
    @Robi2009 7 років тому +495

    I love that you present so many less known battles, as this one, not only those far more famous ones. Keep it up guys!

    • @dominikrudolfettrich2556
      @dominikrudolfettrich2556 7 років тому

      Robi_CK One such battle I would like to see on BazBattles is the Battle of White Mountain or some of the Hussites Battles

    • @Robi2009
      @Robi2009 7 років тому +2

      I don't have my favorites, but certainly Hussite Wars are interesting

    • @almarc
      @almarc 5 років тому +7

      Here in Armenia, it's actually a symbol of freedom. Even nearly 16 centuries later.

  • @rahulpathare12345
    @rahulpathare12345 6 років тому +523

    This is the first battle i have seen where soldiers didn't run away after their king's death. Salute to those brave Armenian soldiers. Greetings from India.

    • @kingleovilusignan8169
      @kingleovilusignan8169 6 років тому +32

      Thank you, we love India, many Indian students live there)))

    • @Verexlyon
      @Verexlyon 4 роки тому +11

      Though Vardan was not a king, but a warlord

    • @kristofantal8801
      @kristofantal8801 4 роки тому +15

      However, such battles did occur, of course, rarely. Another example of this is the Battle of Lützen (1632, Thirty Years' War
      ). The death of Gustavus Adolphus, King of Sweden was not known to many soldiers during the battle, and the king was thought to have disappeared by several people, due to, among other things, the fog. After the king's death, his deputy, Bernard of Saxe-Weimar
      took over the command, reorganizing the broken center (which broke not because of the king’s death, but because the center’s battle line slipped too far, creating a gap and the Imperial cavalry breaking through of it) of the army's first line, and then attacking the second reserve line as well. Eventually, the Swedes and their allies won a victory over the Imperial forces.

    • @TheArmenianSolider65
      @TheArmenianSolider65 4 роки тому +19

      The legend goes that when Vardan died in battle a soldier picked up his cape and wore it. All the men saw the cape and thought that their general was still fighting so they too kept fighting. Every time the solider wearing the cape died another would pick it up and charge forward.

    • @robleyusuf2566
      @robleyusuf2566 2 роки тому

      @@TheArmenianSolider65 Armenians, Arabs, Hebrews, Persians and Greeks kept their identity while many nations perished. No Roman, no Pheonician no Scythians, no Lydians.

  • @Dreapta-credință
    @Dreapta-credință 3 роки тому +29

    Respect from Romania my Orthodox-christian brothers! 🤜🤛

  • @Reck
    @Reck 7 років тому +394

    *That feeling when Baz Battles pops into your sub box*

    • @ludde1300
      @ludde1300 7 років тому

      the best feeling :)

    • @goldenmemes51
      @goldenmemes51 7 років тому +3

      Feeling when kings n generals pops into sub box

    • @hazzmati
      @hazzmati 7 років тому +1

      sassanid were not muslim though

    • @TheItalianPepe
      @TheItalianPepe 7 років тому

      Can't get enough.

    • @justiniani3314
      @justiniani3314 6 років тому

      Hazzmati who said they were Muslims

  • @arturmesropyan8087
    @arturmesropyan8087 7 років тому +78

    Thank you for covering this battle. The Battle of Avarayr has been one of the most important battles in Armenian history. It was a battle of not pragmatic political calculation on the part of Armenia but a battle for their identity, self-respect and anti assimilation with Persia. The word of the day for Armenians was "Conscious Death is Immortality" and this battle resonated through our history from the Middle Ages (victorious battles of Vahan Mamikonyan against Persians) up to the victory over Nagorno Karabakh in 1990-93 war. Thank you again for this video and hope to see more coming :)

  • @HistoryMarche
    @HistoryMarche 7 років тому +686

    Marvelous work yet again. Really brings out the sturdy spirit of Armenia. Would you consider doing the Battle of Tigranocerta? That would be something to see.

    • @mezhdoyan
      @mezhdoyan 7 років тому +12

      Your animation would be better bro)) try it!

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche 7 років тому +39

      Thank you kindly Slava, but BazBattles is second to none in my book.

    • @diegonatan6301
      @diegonatan6301 7 років тому +1

      Just found your channel and subscribed, your videos are very good and detailed, and the narration is very pleasing too, I hope you gain more subscribers soon!

    • @gevorgyan83
      @gevorgyan83 7 років тому +3

      HistoryMarche Good idea

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche 7 років тому +2

      @jared - Indeed, though these were chaotic times across the Roman domain.

  • @wilhelmsarosen4735
    @wilhelmsarosen4735 7 років тому +559

    How Armenians survived the many empires that tried to conquer it is a very fascinating part of history to study. Romans, Sasanians, Mongols, and Ottomans all came and went, yet Hayastan remains strong.

    • @Alaryk111
      @Alaryk111 7 років тому +43

      And Soviets

    • @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin
      @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin 7 років тому +40

      Ancient history is full of cultures that held on, because empires don't often assimilate - in fact, they really only care about political stability (excusing special interests of elites). Assimilation is mostly a phenomenon of modern nationalism. There is mention of 'romanization', but it took centuries, and the roman empire existed for at least that long.

    • @soghomontehlirian1708
      @soghomontehlirian1708 6 років тому +43

      Soundwave 47 were still standing show me turky or LEGO Azerbaijan on a ancient map pls

    • @Tirajis
      @Tirajis 6 років тому +4

      Simple they just bertayed who ever seemed to lose and sided with the winning empire. Pretty Smart

    • @Tirajis
      @Tirajis 6 років тому +5

      Soghomon Tehlirian Ah yes here come the offended, cultured people defending their Country (or religion) valiantly. Get a life

  • @feynstein1004
    @feynstein1004 7 років тому +460

    Was about to go to sleep. Sees BazBattles in subscriptions. Sleep is for the weak.

    • @kamil.g.m
      @kamil.g.m 7 років тому +3

      Feynstein 100 lol too true

    • @feynstein1004
      @feynstein1004 7 років тому +1

      +Jeffrey Stevenson :)

    • @Ivane_Maskhulia
      @Ivane_Maskhulia 7 років тому +2

      This was really funny. Sleap is for the weak ))))

    • @worsethanjoerogan8061
      @worsethanjoerogan8061 7 років тому +3

      You may sleep when you're dead!

    • @azrael8598
      @azrael8598 7 років тому +1

      Feynstein 100 seriously do you want to live forever? Bazbattles drives all men there are no other forces

  • @LocoMotive931
    @LocoMotive931 7 років тому +34

    Very rare in history that the army kept fighting even with the loss of their leader, props to them

    • @S-Nova0
      @S-Nova0 7 років тому +3

      It's really interesting, he is still celebrated to this day and the day of the battle of his death is commemorated as a public holiday in Armenia.

  • @hrantk2060
    @hrantk2060 7 років тому +31

    Hey, thanks for the video! The Battle of Avarayr was the pinnacle of the Armenian struggle against the Sasanid Emipre that wished to convert Armenians, forcing them to abandon Christianity. Vardan was made a saint by the church after his death and the Armenians contnued to fight a guerrilla campaign against the Persian army, after they lost the battle. Even though they were defeated in the Battle of Avarayr from the military point of view, they won a moral victory - earning the right to preserve their identity and gaining more autonomy.

    • @dragonfly1929
      @dragonfly1929 3 роки тому +2

      HOW ABOUT EARLIER..ARMENI JOINE THE CRUSADES,TO KILL MUSLIMS,TAKE JERUSALEM,THE POPE,HAD PROMISED,FORGIVE ALL SINNS,WITH A LARGE SOME GIVEN TO THE CATHOLIC POPE..TO EVERY CRUSADER..NO MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY MASSACRED???ARMENIANS WERE ZOROASTRIANS..JUST LIKE THE PERSIANS..ONE DAY THEIR KING WAS HEALED,FROM A TERRIBLE,VENEREAL DISEASE ,HE WAS CURED. AND DECIDES... ,THE NATION SHOULD CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY..RIGHT AWAY..THE BATTLE OF 'AVARAYR'.. WAS LOST,MANY,THOUSANDS DIED..BUT VARTAN MAMIGONIAN DID NOT..WE ARMENIANS ARE STRANGE..WE LOSE BATLES..AND CELEBRATE IT AS A VICTORY..SO WHY GO TO WAR AT ALL..IF YOU ARE A WINNER NO MATTER WHAT,EVEN A SAINT TO TOP IT ALL..MY FAMILY NAME IS VARTANIAN...AND TILL LATELY..I THOUGHT WE WERE CELEBRATING VICTORY ...WHAT KINDE OF POINT OF VUE IS THAT..IT HAS BECOME A VERY BAD HABIT..WE DO NOT CONSIDER GUERRILLA CAMPAIGN ,TO BE NOTHING BUT TERRORISM IN THE FREE WORLD..WE CONDEMN SUICIDE BOMBING AS A TERRORIST MISSION,ONLY WHEN THEY SHOUT 'ALLAH OU AKBAR'..BUT CHRISTIANS ,THEY BECOME .SAINTS IF THEY ARE KILLING MUSLIM,LATLY..THE ARMENIAN GATOGIGOS..WENT TO RUSSIA,WITH THE ARMENIAN MINISTER TO SEE PUTIN..HE WAS TOLD..THIS IS NOT A RELIGIOUS WAR..WHY BRING ALONG RELIGION IN IT..RELIGION HAS KILLED,MILLIONS,HUNDREDS OF MILLION PEOPLE..LET US NOT GO IN THAT DIRECTION..THE YOUTH GO TO CHURCH FOR CHRISTENING,WEDING,EASTER,CHRISTMAS,AND THE DAY THEY DIE..OTHERWISE,IT IS OLD WIDOWS,5 OR SIX OF THEM..LIGHTING CANDELLES ,OR ASKING FOR ASSISTANCE..BESIDES THE PRISTS..WHO ARE GOING ON WITH THEIR CHANT...

  • @thehajduk6451
    @thehajduk6451 7 років тому +598

    The Armenian struggle for survival throughout the ages is one of the world's most dramatic and saddest of stories..
    Great love from Romania :'(

    • @thehajduk6451
      @thehajduk6451 7 років тому +39

      I wasn't reffering only to the Persians. I wanted to point out that the Armenian people have suffered since their first days (starting with the Assyrians and ending with the Turks).

    • @josephorlando7108
      @josephorlando7108 6 років тому +16

      And great love from America

    • @joihnbrown1889
      @joihnbrown1889 5 років тому

      haha

    • @lightravenn
      @lightravenn 5 років тому +1

      Its all about the geopolitical part, they were in a heat zone, with stronger powers nearby.

    • @vanS808
      @vanS808 5 років тому +2

      @@finnfigure Thats true, Persians & Armenians had much interaction, also Parthia.
      There was much intermingling before Christianity.
      This battle was a devcisive time for Armenia, with the Persians there was about 20,000 Armenians who were still refusing Christianity
      But overall Iran has always been obe of the best allies for Armenia, even today.
      Persians & Armenians we are related by blood

  • @vinodvarghese78
    @vinodvarghese78 7 років тому +87

    Great video as always. You guys rock! Armenia has suffered a lot through out history especially in the wars between the Romans and Eastern Empires.

    • @hazzmati
      @hazzmati 7 років тому +29

      most during ottoman empire....

  • @marmanlive
    @marmanlive 5 років тому +22

    Many thanks for the accurately detailed and quality video... indeed Armenia has always been the carrier of values of Christianity and deserves its place on the pedestal of the World Nations as one of the original ancient civilizations on the Earth.

  • @Labis-uk9ne
    @Labis-uk9ne 7 років тому +368

    Armenians are an ancient and proud nation with rich history and culture. Respect and greetings from Greece!!!

    • @antranigmahdessian8894
      @antranigmahdessian8894 7 років тому +5

      Λάμπης Κίκκης Efxaristo file ;)

    • @Labis-uk9ne
      @Labis-uk9ne 7 років тому +2

      Να'σαι καλά αεδρφέ...

    • @levone8958
      @levone8958 7 років тому +13

      Do you have any proof to back this up?

    • @christermi
      @christermi 7 років тому +11

      He is doing it on purpose in order to insult us ... He is trolling us ;)

    • @levone8958
      @levone8958 7 років тому +5

      Christermi Christos I always hear people say stupid stuff like that without any proof. Always wondered what their reasoning was.

  • @theghostofspookwagen4715
    @theghostofspookwagen4715 7 років тому +118

    Armenia and Georgia and the Caucasus in general are really fascinating places whose history is quite obscure to most in the western world. I want to learn more about them or maybe visit one day.

    • @VLADB07
      @VLADB07 7 років тому +6

      The ghost of Spookwagen
      It's a very intresting region and a very hard one to understand. Plus there are almost no documentary videos to bring up the light

    • @dr.spectre9697
      @dr.spectre9697 6 років тому +29

      Armenians are VERY proud to be Armenian. Hence outside of America they do not like intermarrying or intermixing & are IMMENSELY nationalistic. Armenia is one of the most homogenous nation on earth & its not because they think they are better than anyone else, its simply survival & a way to protect their unique culture & genetic identity. Western & eastern visitors are ALWAYS welcome as long as they respect the culture, & Armenian culture is a typical christian culture. Everywhere is clean, food is great, water is clean, & life is good. I encourage you to visit Armenia and their cousins in Georgia. You would love it.

    • @schoob4822
      @schoob4822 6 років тому +4

      Dr. Spectre I visited friends in Georgia a few years ago and I don't think I've ever seen a more beautiful country

  • @soralb6368
    @soralb6368 7 років тому +94

    Another fantastic well researched episode.
    By the way, I thought I can help clarify a few things:
    1- Marzban means "border guard" in Persian. Back then, it was a title given to local leaders in the borderlands of the Persian empire.
    2- Yes people. They were regions called Albania and Iberia in the Caucasus back then, with no direct relation with the modern country of Albania or the Iberian peninsula.

    • @legionoflilith2546
      @legionoflilith2546 7 років тому +7

      Sor Alb Those Albanians are same as Balkan ones.They migrated to Balkan from Caucasus actually.

    • @VLADB07
      @VLADB07 7 років тому +10

      Dimitrije Ostojic
      I'm Armenian and I say no to that, they are different....completely different

    • @ArsenAl-zorK
      @ArsenAl-zorK 6 років тому +5

      That is not true. Caucasian albania has nothing to do with modern day Albania.

    • @rogeriocardoso8258
      @rogeriocardoso8258 6 років тому +1

      Modern albanians used to live in Balkans itself, in Illyria.

    • @LionZ_
      @LionZ_ 6 років тому +2

      Rogério Cardoso
      Illyrians were sea/sailing people, unlike Albanians that never sailed nor have the words for sea vessels and life in their language. So... no.

  • @flynnstone3133
    @flynnstone3133 7 років тому +328

    I recently learned about this battle while reviewing old records of earths history. Thank you for bringing more... clarity... to the subject.

    • @ibnsina6312
      @ibnsina6312 7 років тому +3

      YOU ARE THE GREATEST!

    • @12345678900987659101
      @12345678900987659101 7 років тому

      Thrown don't destroy us

    • @Toranaga
      @Toranaga 7 років тому

      I never expected to see you here..

    • @collinthescribe4641
      @collinthescribe4641 7 років тому +5

      I’ll tell you everything I know, and in return I will join the empire.

    • @DylanJo123
      @DylanJo123 7 років тому +3

      You are fighting for a dying corpse of an Empire, Thrawn.
      Give it up, the Republic will have your head one way or another.

  • @limnmark
    @limnmark 6 років тому +241

    Respect to Armenians defending their land from a mighty empire. From Greece

    • @kingleovilusignan8169
      @kingleovilusignan8169 6 років тому +27

      You can not imagine how we love the Greeks.

    • @marmanlive
      @marmanlive 5 років тому +18

      Greeks and Armenians, two ancient civilizations that shared many similarities and destiny, big love and respect to Greece!!!

    • @migkillerphantom
      @migkillerphantom 4 роки тому +1

      I mean, one of the empires they were frequently trying to fend off was you

    • @benistiyorrobloxoynamak193
      @benistiyorrobloxoynamak193 2 роки тому

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @benistiyorrobloxoynamak193
      @benistiyorrobloxoynamak193 2 роки тому

      @@kingleovilusignan8169 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂iki katliamcı adi millet.

  • @Dikranovski
    @Dikranovski 7 років тому +3

    BazBattles I love you even more now. Before writing this I came back from a usual day at college and sat down to eat. Barely a minute in I just think about Avarayr for a second and how barely anyone knows about it nowadays and then I see it on your channel as soon as I enter UA-cam. It took me a second look and I was shocked after I realized what I saw. Information about Armenian battles and history are so rare to find on the internet in sufficient detail, everytime I want to know more I end up not finding good enough information. No one bothers to shed light on our rich history anymore (not that we are more special than anyone else) and now, to see Avarayr on your wonderful and ever-growing channel is beyond amazing for me as a proud Armenian and a lifelong student of all of history. This battle is at the heart of everything that defines my ancestors (stubbornness most of the time) through their history under foreign control. I want to thank you immensely for making this video and letting it be possible to show countless others around the world. Again, thank you very much I don't think you know how much this means to me

  • @rubenkerobyan6891
    @rubenkerobyan6891 7 років тому +55

    Շատ շնորհակալություն
    Thanks a lot

  • @1994Kabalioths
    @1994Kabalioths 7 років тому +35

    Thank you very much for the history lesson and the tactical analysis. It is too sad that Byzantine Empire had problem with the Huns and couldn't help the Armenians.

    • @hrantk2060
      @hrantk2060 7 років тому +4

      The whole irony is in the fact that Armenians sought help BOTH from Byzantines and Huns, which were fighting each other. I guess we were hoping that somebidy would help...

    • @suren2313
      @suren2313 6 років тому +1

      Every time

  • @deecee796
    @deecee796 7 років тому +174

    After watching this I truly feel like I respect Armenian spirit and grit, even though their neighbours were often more powerful than they were, they held on to their culture and history.

    • @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin
      @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin 7 років тому +6

      Ancient history is full of cultures that held on, because empires don't often assimilate - in fact, they really only care about political stability (excusing special interests of elites). Assimilation is mostly a phenomenon of modern nationalism. There is mention of 'romanization', but it took centuries, and the roman empire existed for at least that long.

  • @VLADB07
    @VLADB07 7 років тому +12

    Thank you mate for bringing this famous Armenian battle up, much respect and support! As always you are the best and thanks for telling the political process and betrayals too

  • @PeopleOfAr
    @PeopleOfAr 6 років тому +185

    Armenia has sacrificed for the preservation of the Christian faith many times. Battle of Avarayr was one of them. Without this sacrifice both the existence of Armenians as a people and Christianity would be threatened with extinction in that part of the world. For this reason Vardan Mamikonyan has been immortalized in the Armenian Church as a Saint.

    • @finnfigure
      @finnfigure 6 років тому +1

      The Sassanids did not threaten Christendom, so the Battle of Avarayr was NOT one of them.

    • @steveperez178
      @steveperez178 6 років тому +13

      @Tarık Mengüç Exile? *Genocide

    • @steveperez178
      @steveperez178 6 років тому +10

      @Tarık Mengüç The man who was brought to court? Good.

    • @TheMarrrk
      @TheMarrrk 5 років тому +1

      @Tarık Mengüç state policy to enslave and force them to fight in their armies aswell

  • @liilu8
    @liilu8 6 років тому +15

    Just an addition to this, Vardan Mamikonian had a daughter name Shushanik, she marries an Iranian prince name Varsken from Mihranid family, this guy was the prince of the region "Albania" current day Azerbayjan...Varsken forces his wife to convert to Zoroastrianism but she refuses, she is killed by her husband Varsken in Tsurtavi, Georgia...she is a Saint in the Armenian church, we remember he every year on Oct 17...

    • @handsome652
      @handsome652 5 років тому +4

      he is remembered also in Georgia too saint SHUSHANIK

  • @gabrieltheredlion6613
    @gabrieltheredlion6613 7 років тому +5

    Another great video BazBattles.

  • @underclas
    @underclas 7 років тому +2

    I love that you did this, I really wish there was more in-depth videos like this about the 3rd-8th century warfare I always thought this era was really interesting.

  • @justiniani3314
    @justiniani3314 7 років тому +11

    Thanks

  • @13gi0n
    @13gi0n 7 років тому +19

    Notification squad! Love your work, BazBattles. Keep it up!

  • @hoval2003
    @hoval2003 7 років тому +14

    Wow great job guys. Another amazing work. Keep it up. More battles from this era and the Armenian kingdoms please...

  • @tapanilofving4741
    @tapanilofving4741 7 років тому +2

    This channel is so good, thank you!

  • @djm2354
    @djm2354 7 років тому +183

    please make more videos about Armenia it realy has an interesting history

  • @dingusdean1905
    @dingusdean1905 7 років тому +1

    I love your videos. You guys put so much effort into them and it shows. The production quality is outstanding.

  • @deusvult5247
    @deusvult5247 3 роки тому +16

    Greetings everyone from Armenia🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲
    We are still here !!!!!

  • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
    @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory 7 років тому

    An excellent birthday gift! Thanks Bazbattles! Wonderful work yet again!

  • @thecrusaderhistorian9820
    @thecrusaderhistorian9820 4 роки тому +6

    Thank you for showing a wonderful video! I am glad to see the Armenian people retained their spirit, culture, and way of life no matter the odds!

  • @JesseCuster
    @JesseCuster 4 роки тому

    Not specific to this video, I just wanted to say I really enjoy your content. Detailed, but fun and easy to follow. Informative but not dry and ponderous. I've been binging your battle videos for the past couple of days and it's been very enlightening. Thanks!

  • @Saikhnaaaaa
    @Saikhnaaaaa 7 років тому +33

    Just learned that the Eastern Caucasus region was indeed called Albania by the Greeks. Mindblown.

  • @monaxoskg21
    @monaxoskg21 7 років тому

    I am getting goosebumps everytime you upload a video @BazBattels..My brain,eyes and ears are thankfull.

  • @ht8384
    @ht8384 7 років тому +165

    Interestingly, Armenians still celebrate this battle to this day.

    • @fighterjet1yt946
      @fighterjet1yt946 4 роки тому +5

      H T there’s a more crazier battle it’s the battle of halidzor

    • @dragonfly1929
      @dragonfly1929 3 роки тому

      A WAR THEY LOST,TO PERSIA..THEY DID LOSE THE WAR,BUT THEY CELEBRATE IT,AS A MORAL VICTORY!!RELIGIOUS WARES,TO CONVERT PEOPLE..HAD KILLED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE..FOR CENTURIES..EACH SIDE FIGHTING FOR THEIR GOD!WHAT A WAIST..!

    • @ht8384
      @ht8384 3 роки тому

      @@dragonfly1929 religion or any other ideology or belief system, humans are predators at their core. War is what we do.

    • @hayots_lernashkharh
      @hayots_lernashkharh 3 роки тому +1

      Ye we do. When i went to Armenian school we celebrated this battle as a reminder of our strong faith in God 🇦🇲☝️✝️

    • @benistiyorrobloxoynamak193
      @benistiyorrobloxoynamak193 2 роки тому

      @@hayots_lernashkharh 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @ludde1300
    @ludde1300 7 років тому

    YES
    THANK YOU FOR UPLOADING I HAVE BEEN BINGE WATCHING ALL EPISODES 5 TIMES EACH NOW AND IM SO HAPPY YOU UPLOADED

  • @edgara4361
    @edgara4361 7 років тому +36

    I LOVE YOU!! MORE ARMENIAN BATTLES!!

  • @Pottan23
    @Pottan23 7 років тому +1

    Never stop doing these videos, they are superb

  • @dariobandan1229
    @dariobandan1229 7 років тому +71

    Nowadays Persians and Armenians like each other a lot though

    • @Jazmillenium
      @Jazmillenium 6 років тому +15

      Yesterdays enemies are today's friends. Today's friends are tomorrow's enemies. Things always change, it is the natural state of things.

    • @levone8958
      @levone8958 5 років тому +22

      @CrossWood Productions Not at all. Today Iranian tourists often visit Armenia and our relations are good. Religion is no reason to not like another human being.

    • @victuz
      @victuz 5 років тому +4

      Generally speaking it's tyrants that force people to clash.

    • @ArsenAl-zorK
      @ArsenAl-zorK 4 роки тому +6

      We love Persians. Armenia and Persia generally have always been friendly to each other throughout history. The Sassanids rulers were the ones to change it into something hostile by being less tolerant and respectful than previous Iranian rulers.

    • @AJ_MUR
      @AJ_MUR 4 роки тому

      @@ArsenAl-zorK Even the topic of Sassanid tolerance is kind of a complicated issue to tackle, since it heavily depends on which specific king you are talking about. Keep in mind that most of the shahs of the Sassanid period were able to uphold tolerance towards nearly all of their subjects and, as evidenced in the late era, did also incorporate them into the Persian nobility and elite ranks of their military, so long as they were loyal to the empire. Admittedly though, when some of the rulers carried out the odd persecution (Avarayr being the most notable example), they clamped down hard. It probably wasn't a pretty sight.

  • @NoNo-vy3dg
    @NoNo-vy3dg 7 років тому

    Nice and interesting episode. Thank you so much. I also like how at the end you can read the interesting facts while still seeing the two suggested videos. Some other channel just have the suggested videos block everything.

  • @blueblade6174
    @blueblade6174 7 років тому +140

    I guess some would blame religion for the cause of this war but I would say it was ambition of total control that clashed with religious freedom that lead to this battle.

    • @Doncroft1
      @Doncroft1 7 років тому +30

      Ali BabaAhmed You would be right. This was a battle for freedom of belief. Remember, the Sasinid king didn't do this out of piety. It's why the outnumbered Armenians fought so hard.

    • @Tirajis
      @Tirajis 7 років тому +4

      The Armenians had good reason to fight, during the roman/sassanid wars they also sided with the Romans whenever they could thats Why the persians where so Desperate to Control them.

    • @wonderfulcaeserz8710
      @wonderfulcaeserz8710 7 років тому +10

      if I'm the Persian King, I would've done the same to secure my border. remember both Armenia and the Romans have the same faith and tradition. it's enough reason for the Romans to help them. so the Persian King is doing the right thing to do so, just in case if the Romans try to help the Armenians in future conflict.

    • @blueblade6174
      @blueblade6174 7 років тому +8

      Wonderful Caeserz practically speaking, it was right (though not the wisest choice) but morally it's wrong.

    • @Tirajis
      @Tirajis 7 років тому +3

      Ali BabaAhmed well every war ja morally wrong but back then they couldnt Care about such Things if they didn't want to get Invaded themselfes.

  • @bclinguist
    @bclinguist 7 років тому

    Glad to hear from this channel. Can't wait for future videos. Great job.

  • @nozomusuzuki7916
    @nozomusuzuki7916 7 років тому +215

    Armenians suffered way too many persecutions in the past. I guess we must all saluted them for their steadfast faith.

    • @iamarmenianm
      @iamarmenianm 4 роки тому +8

      Stop saying suffer, we should fight to live that is simple truth. Every Armenian should understand it

    • @noahmatteson4525
      @noahmatteson4525 3 роки тому +3

      @@iamarmenianm just because it's the way of life doesn't mean it isn't suffering. Genocide certainly isn't "fighting to live". Genocide is unnatural. And the Armenians suffered much more than many other cultures, even apart from the genocide that happened in later years. What a dumb fucking statement.

    • @iamarmenianm
      @iamarmenianm 3 роки тому +4

      @@noahmatteson4525 Armenians should have not let anyone to genocide them, at the first place. It is partially our fault, that we were weak and not unified.

    • @hayots_lernashkharh
      @hayots_lernashkharh 3 роки тому

      @@iamarmenianm poz es lan kna inkzinkt spaneh

    • @fiddlesticks7245
      @fiddlesticks7245 3 роки тому +2

      @@iamarmenianm You have the perfect mindset bro, ruthless about your nation's failings and determined to ammend any flaws. King mindset, God bless

  • @samveltopuzyan196
    @samveltopuzyan196 7 років тому +2

    It's great to see videos dedicated to the history of Armenia, so I strongly recommend to continue creating such videos, as there are not any videos on UA-cam. Also as a person, who learns Armenian history at school, I advise to glance at the battle pf lake Sevan in 921, battle near village of Akori, which happened after this revolt, in the end you just must learn battles of Sardarapat, Bash-Aparan and Gharakilisa during 1918, where armenians proved to have right to live and laid the foundation of Armenian independence.

  • @JourneyThroughHistoryWithJack
    @JourneyThroughHistoryWithJack 7 років тому +4

    Another Great VIdeo! Keep it up!

    • @g3523jaen
      @g3523jaen 7 років тому

      They surely make amazing videos.

  • @GAMEFREAK330
    @GAMEFREAK330 7 років тому

    Perfect video to come home from work to watch!
    Thanks and keep up the great work!

  • @captainkail
    @captainkail 7 років тому +3

    I could listen to this narrator read ANYTHING

  • @Thomas-mt3xx
    @Thomas-mt3xx 7 років тому +2

    MAn, your videos are the best, I look forward to each new one!

  • @mihajlo961x
    @mihajlo961x 7 років тому +3

    Three things:
    1. Amazing as always. This channel is just everything I could want UA-cam to be.
    2. 10:48 - It's interesting to account for how the Persian's managed their empire. In this case, I mean the fact that the captured Armenian soldiers were absorbed into the imperial army and relocated as opposed to being executed or locked away doing slave labor (not to say that never happened, though). I suppose the Romans did the same, no?
    3. One small suggestion is to continue adding some present-day contextualisation, namely stating in either written or verbal form what the current cities or regions are where this took place. I would have loved to know, for instance, exactly where Nakhchivan is today (obviously, *without* having to look it up).

    • @VasilyKiryanov
      @VasilyKiryanov 5 років тому

      Nakhchivan is in Nakhchivan autonomous region, an exclave of Azerbaijan.

    • @VasilyKiryanov
      @VasilyKiryanov 5 років тому

      @Di VepetsThere is no slavery today (apart from... you know). So what? Forced labor is still in use and legal in many places.

  • @9and7
    @9and7 7 років тому

    Doesn't get any better.
    Thank You Baz. More please!

  • @jordanadams7856
    @jordanadams7856 6 років тому

    I swear to god every episode I watch gives me more knowledge about the world I live in. Amazing

  • @Sina-og7gx
    @Sina-og7gx 2 роки тому +16

    Respect to Armenians from IRAN 🇮🇷❤️🇦🇲

  • @OPVSNOVVM
    @OPVSNOVVM 7 років тому +2

    Thank you for researching and making a video about this battle. It was excellent as always, and very much appreciated.
    This is one of the more obscure battles of history. There aren't many direct sources about it, and I believe it must be either a very small conflict or a big embarrassment for the Persian forces, that it isn't taught in Iranian history. The Armenian chronicler Elishe (5th century AD) gives a huge and frankly not very plausible number for the Armenian army (60.000!), and in stark contrast, a comparatively small yet very precise number in casualties (1036 -, just the real soldiers no common folk included, perhaps?). He also states that the Iranian army suffered three times that number, so Mushkan Nisalavurt didn't want to further the attack, but upon Vasak's plea, he went on besieging the fortresses the survivors withdrew to. There are lots of unanswered questions in this narrative of course. Was Vasak so cruel and treacherous as we're told? Would a 60.000 strong army collapse with just a thousand casualties? Was Vardan's strategy getting help from the neighbours and actually defeating the Persians, or making a heroic but suicidal last stand? Many things don't make sense, and we might never know why...

  • @Alperen_Kayış
    @Alperen_Kayış 7 років тому +175

    Empires come and go, armenians are what remains :D

    • @maxten
      @maxten 7 років тому +33

      ancient and not the strongest kingdom, yet still standing, considering how islam has run over persia and anatolia, even india, egypt.

    • @Gutians
      @Gutians 6 років тому +2

      Straight Outta Markarth iran/Persia is ancient and still strong and major what're you talking about?

    • @finnfigure
      @finnfigure 6 років тому +2

      @@maxten Islam never overran Persia. Persia adopted Islam. Iran now has the same if not more strength than its past empires. Iran is on the map because of its political resilience. This is why it's still relevant and feared. Armenia has beautiful and great people. Iranians are as resilient if not more than Armenians.
      Don't make an enemy of two allied peoples.

    • @finnfigure
      @finnfigure 6 років тому +3

      @Lucimyr Iranians now are direct descendants of Ancient Persians. Even the genetic haplotypes prove this.

    • @kinaskonokalaskolisku5072
      @kinaskonokalaskolisku5072 6 років тому

      @@maxten India is still standing.

  • @fulminatus6241
    @fulminatus6241 7 років тому

    Another great job! Thanks you. 300,000 is just around the corner.

  • @Atomic0907
    @Atomic0907 5 років тому +22

    No one can seem to give the Armenians a break first the Persians then the ottomans, and even today with Azerbaijan and them having a war

  • @Sr65536
    @Sr65536 7 років тому

    Great as usual. Love the historic contexts at the beginning.

  • @bubuluwithagoldendudul9709
    @bubuluwithagoldendudul9709 6 років тому +21

    Brave brave Armenians, much love from your blood brother iran (persia)

  • @shaktisingh2773
    @shaktisingh2773 2 дні тому

    For everyone wondering about Iberia in the Caususes, Yes, part of Armenia was once called Iberia. The theme of Iberia was a Byzantine administrative and military unit that included parts of Armenia and Georgia. The theme was created in the 11th century, and it ended in 1074.

  • @bedrosgesaratsi1099
    @bedrosgesaratsi1099 6 років тому +6

    Ancient ARMENIA & ARMENIANS. One of the oldest civilizations. Masters of trade, craftsmanship, & art. AUTOCHTHONOUS people of ARMENIAN HIGHLANDS. Despite all invasions & destruction attempts, Armenia still breathes in a territory which represents only a tiny fracture of its borders. It was ARMENIA around 6th century BC when Persians invaded it (see Behistun Inscription), it's still ARMENIA after more than 2500 years. Armenia's resistance & consistency definitely deserve respect.

  • @TheItalianPepe
    @TheItalianPepe 7 років тому

    Yaaasssss!! You're videos make my day Baz!!

  • @giorgig4828
    @giorgig4828 7 років тому +3

    Fun Fact: Vardan Mamikonian's daughter - Shushanik is a very widely known saint who was martyred because she didn't want to change her religion. There's a very famous hagiographic text written about it

  • @snacko30
    @snacko30 7 років тому

    excellent as always thank you so much

  • @HistoryTimes
    @HistoryTimes 7 років тому +17

    Fantastic! Losing the battle but winning the war!!! Was this one offered by your patrons?

    • @sargishakobyan4743
      @sargishakobyan4743 7 років тому +4

      I did offer him the battle Avarayr in the comment section of the last video, though I don't know if it was my suggestion that he saw.

    • @0249er
      @0249er 7 років тому +1

      I mean they still lost the war since the Persians carried on ruling them..

    • @Okaneenee
      @Okaneenee 7 років тому +4

      0249er Their ture goal was preserving their religion, I doudt any of them thought they'd be able to fully escape the Empire, and even if they did Rome would have tried to take over. So they definitely won the war.

    • @0249er
      @0249er 7 років тому

      lol no they fought for Independence and they where crushed by the Persians. They fully well knew that if they didnt achieve it they would be killed or there life would be miserable within the empire so it was a all or nothing bet when they refused the offer and they lost.

    • @videomaker2097
      @videomaker2097 7 років тому +1

      Yeah, but Christianity became the co-official religion of Persia as a consequence of this battle.

  • @raulmachuca9047
    @raulmachuca9047 6 років тому

    i like how you post less known but still important battles so we can learn more about the history of most nations.

  • @robertavanesovru
    @robertavanesovru 7 років тому +35

    As an Armenian I love this video. :)

    • @robleyusuf2566
      @robleyusuf2566 5 років тому

      Avenesov or Avenesian?

    • @suren2313
      @suren2313 5 років тому

      Roble Yusuf he should be Avanesian

  • @akkariel8228
    @akkariel8228 7 років тому

    The amount of joy that seeing Baz had just uploaded this gave me surprised me.

  • @furkandursun6314
    @furkandursun6314 7 років тому +83

    GODS HE WAS STRONG THEN!

    • @azizhajji4600
      @azizhajji4600 7 років тому +19

      MORE WINE

    • @pax7322
      @pax7322 7 років тому +7

      FUCK BOARS AND KILL WHORES

    • @connorbrennan501
      @connorbrennan501 7 років тому +13

      START THE DAMN JOUST BEFORE I PISS MESELF

    • @goldenmemes51
      @goldenmemes51 7 років тому +10

      There's a battle coming Ned, I don't know when I don't know where but it's coming.

    • @DylanJo123
      @DylanJo123 7 років тому +6

      GODS WHAT A BATTLE THAT WAS

  • @handlesmcdaniels8963
    @handlesmcdaniels8963 3 роки тому

    I love this channel so much. Like you have no idea

  • @roscosisco1276
    @roscosisco1276 7 років тому +4

    I fucking love this channel

  • @snorrigylfason9747
    @snorrigylfason9747 7 років тому

    Many Thanks, I heve never heard about this battle before

  • @megawave8759
    @megawave8759 7 років тому +32

    Iberia and Albania on top of Sassanid Empire, my geographic section of brain has blown away

    • @გ1992
      @გ1992 7 років тому +10

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Iberia

    • @mezhdoyan
      @mezhdoyan 7 років тому

      ))))

    • @essexclass8168
      @essexclass8168 7 років тому +6

      Blame the Romans...or maybe Alexander for starting the "Name completely different places exactly the same" trend (with his Alexandrias)

  • @ArmenianLiturgy
    @ArmenianLiturgy Рік тому

    Thank you for this video ❤💙🧡

  • @Ivane_Maskhulia
    @Ivane_Maskhulia 7 років тому +233

    Brave Armenians.

    • @goldenmemes51
      @goldenmemes51 7 років тому +12

      How come Armenian writing looks like a drunk Russian trying to write and learn English

    • @Ivane_Maskhulia
      @Ivane_Maskhulia 7 років тому +55

      They stood against twise as much enemy, also twise advanced technologically as they. they do not rout even after lost leader. come on how can you not respect them. What would you do if someone wanted to take away yout identity. religion back then was something more than today.

    • @crazypunisher4066
      @crazypunisher4066 7 років тому +27

      Golden Memes it is not armenian but georgian,you stupid

    • @Berzelmayr
      @Berzelmayr 7 років тому +33

      Turks can't behave.

    • @Ivane_Maskhulia
      @Ivane_Maskhulia 7 років тому +18

      You never know who wins. I am georgian and in 1021 was battle against seljuks. Georgians were 60k when the seljuks 250 to 300k, Georgians won the battle and crushed seljucks. Il ghazi was good general, he had huge armie and still he lost. You can never know who wins. War is not only about numbers, money, or weapons. is comlex thing. So give up in the first place will never make man victorius.

  • @MrSpidersquirrel
    @MrSpidersquirrel 7 років тому

    Another great video, would love to see the 1683 Siege of Vienna done at some point, its one of my favourite moments of history and I think it’d be incredible to see the largest calvary charge ever, done in true BazBattles fashion.

  • @carlos89784
    @carlos89784 7 років тому +96

    Great Armenians!! And now, hopefully, I hope we get a leader, that fights for Europeans to keep their identity. What a great people, this Armenias are. Held Christianity more than anyone else.

    • @CelticSaint
      @CelticSaint 7 років тому +18

      Viktor Orbán appears to be one of the few European leaders who wishes to protect the people of Europe. Here in the of West of Europe we can only dream of such a man, and such a leader. Here in the UK we are stuck with Sharia May.

    • @The_Real_Grandpa_Joe
      @The_Real_Grandpa_Joe 7 років тому +6

      thank you for the kind words Carlos, much love

    • @carlos89784
      @carlos89784 7 років тому +6

      DEUS VULT Yes, Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic, Austria ( more and less) and Switzerland (Slovenia gave in to the EU threats) are enduring against the EU forced socialist ideology. The hipocrisy is unbearable! Germany accusing Poland about not accepting "refugees" when in reality Poland has taken over 1.000.000 Ukranian refugees.
      There's hope for Europe still. Even for Christianity. China Uncensored youtube channel reported a growth on the Christian faith in China.

    • @matikhorasani3842
      @matikhorasani3842 7 років тому +1

      Lol.

    • @VLADB07
      @VLADB07 7 років тому +7

      Yeah sadly we have been burned because of it more than anyone...being the single Christian nation surrounded by the hordes of Muslims ain't easy, but we are holding as always

  • @KeithShuler
    @KeithShuler 7 років тому +1

    As always....great job!

  • @mikeshogunlee
    @mikeshogunlee 7 років тому +15

    Sun Tzu once said;
    "The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting."
    His theory was proven in the Battle of the Caudine Forks

    • @humphrey10-88
      @humphrey10-88 7 років тому

      those damn samnites
      I miss SPQR :(

    • @mikeshogunlee
      @mikeshogunlee 7 років тому +5

      eh,
      Their Sequels were a lot more interesting for me.
      *The Holy Roman Empire* : *the countless kingdoms of ONE EMPIRE.*
      was cool and in depth, with a lot of drama!
      But personally my favorite was;
      *The Byzantine Empire* : *An Empire That Refused to Die*
      Such an inspiring story!

  • @CuriousCumuloNimbusCloud
    @CuriousCumuloNimbusCloud 7 років тому +1

    awesome video as always !

  • @dr.spectre9697
    @dr.spectre9697 6 років тому +40

    Knowing the Armenians, I know that EVERY SINGLE one of them would rather die free & as an Orthodox Armenian, than live without a nation, devoid of their Christian Orthodox heritage & without their language, music, songs, foods & culture.

    • @vahannalbandian8338
      @vahannalbandian8338 6 років тому +2

      we arent orthodox... were coptic

    • @justasingledoor5178
      @justasingledoor5178 4 роки тому

      I don’t think they are ortho

    • @bobobibo2357
      @bobobibo2357 3 роки тому +2

      @@justasingledoor5178 I don't know if we are orthodox or not but the word orthodox doesn't even exist in the Armenian language. We belong to the Armenian Apostolic Church, the oldest "state church" in the world, since 301 ad. I had never heard the word orthodox untill i left Armenia. We don't celebrate christmass at the same date as orthodox or any other church. We don't do the cross sign like the orthodox do but as the catholics do. 10% of us are catholics. For us, the importatnt thing is that we are christians (and Armenians).

    • @justasingledoor5178
      @justasingledoor5178 3 роки тому +1

      @@bobobibo2357 love the Armenians and their history. Awesome people

    • @ArmenSarafian
      @ArmenSarafian 2 місяці тому

      Yup apostolic. Before the rest or at the very least direct from the apostles

  • @jameskelman9856
    @jameskelman9856 6 років тому

    Well done as always! Thanks!

  • @Georgebaqar
    @Georgebaqar 6 років тому +57

    God bless Armenia!
    Greetings from Georgia!

    • @joihnbrown1889
      @joihnbrown1889 5 років тому

      haha

    • @giorgijioshvili9713
      @giorgijioshvili9713 4 роки тому +1

      @@joihnbrown1889 ?

    • @armenbabikian94
      @armenbabikian94 3 роки тому

      Georgian brothers, one day will come that we will be free from the Turkish and Russian Power that is killing our nations slowly

  • @shadowrealm8014
    @shadowrealm8014 5 років тому

    If you made long documentaries of history.. man im sure i watch them over n over

  • @dteddy304
    @dteddy304 4 роки тому +6

    Yazdegard was ironic in that he wished to restore the glory of the ancient Persian empire, yet he failed to recognize one of the key things which made that empire so great: their tolerance and diversity. Cyrus, rather than oppressing the Jews, helped them rebuild their temple and allowed them to practice their faith. Yazdegard wanted to Persianize the Armenians, without realizing that the best way to do so would be a policy of religious tolerance.

  • @kuleropa5437
    @kuleropa5437 7 років тому

    Awesome, I love your videos, they are the best!

  • @kaynethwithmoor7963
    @kaynethwithmoor7963 6 років тому +15

    Armenia looks like a cool country

    • @kartingdudeS
      @kartingdudeS 5 років тому +3

      Kayneth Withmoor visit it.

  • @OmnscentBias
    @OmnscentBias 7 років тому

    Finally getting to more ancient periods, keep it up!

  • @Khachakirner1992
    @Khachakirner1992 3 роки тому +5

    The Battle of Avarayr in 451 AD was the first battle for Christ and Christianity.

  • @laylobinson5839
    @laylobinson5839 5 років тому +2

    i can watch these videos for hours

  • @alexminassian
    @alexminassian 3 роки тому +5

    3:25 Don't forget western Armenia/Byzantine Armenia: there was a significant Armenian population that Yazdegard feared would sway eastern Armenia/Persian Armenia to the west

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 4 роки тому +1

    Always nice to know about little known battles here in the west.

  • @astral9138
    @astral9138 5 років тому +14

    I felt bad for the Armenians they fight for their survival since the assyrians,persians,mongols,turks and other civilizations for centuries

  • @patrickberbon3135
    @patrickberbon3135 7 років тому

    These videos are so good! Keep on going!

  • @scorpioninpink
    @scorpioninpink 7 років тому +17

    Up to this day, Armenian identity is being challenged and wiped out but Armenians always resist!