A while ago Buckin taught me it's safe and acceptable to drop start a saw. youtube is full of loud talking, keyboard pounding fakes. This guy is the coolest uncle I never had, overflowing with wisdom and real life lessons. Thank you Buckin' Billy Ray
Being 74, I used to put my foot thru the handle with the saw on the ground. It worked but after watching your video, I tried some different ways and it ends up throwing the saw away seemed to work best. Thanks for the entertaining and educational video.
Great tutorial Buck. I'm 69yrs old and weigh just 140lbs, I've been starting saws exactly the way you do. Putting your foot in the base of the handle and bending over to try and start your saws is a good way to snatch your sciatic nerve and give yourself hell for months. Throwing your saw down is y far the easiest and in my opinion the safest way always, to start your saw. Thanks for all your advice, keep at it Buck.!
Hi Buckin, you are such a positive & uplifting teacher!! This video is so important for all of us who have trouble starting a high cc “power saw”! I have no problem starting my Stihl 181 - but it’s quite a chore for me to start Tim’s 500i. I used to push the decompression button, but I’ve recently been trying the way I see you slowly pulling your saws 2 or 3 times before starting them. This has helped me a lot. As a woman, I naturally lack the upper body strength that helps you and most men make this process look effortless 🤷🏻♀️ BUT, what I lack in physical strength, I make up for with determination, and once I get that thing started, it’s music to my ears and I love how much power it has! (Just an old grandma’s opinion!😊) Thank you for always making each of us feel like we are perfect just the way we are! 🥰
YOU are so cool and a great teacher Buckin,i am 63 in a wheelchair and still cut wood as often as i can. Isit my saw in my crotch and DROP START IT. AWSOME VIDIOS I WATCH YOU AS MUCH AS I CAN.THANKS
Thank you Billy Ray! Your videos are life lessons that I always watch with pleasure. I have learned so much from you and I always find inspiration and motivation watching your videos. Thanks to people like you I changed the toxic job and started cutting trees. Now it's almost a year that I do this activity. I express my sincere gratitude and wish you the best.
@@BuckinBillyRaySmith I think it's a UA-cam bug,but it would have been worth it, since i got dozens of free lessons. If you want to visit northern Italy, i would be happy to be your guide 👍🏼. Bogdan
I'm just going to say.. that wasn't the sun creeping around on you there Buckin' .. That was gods light shining upon you for being such a good man. Men of steel with hearts of gold are the best kind of men. 👍
I'm a general contractor in the NE. When I got into construction I worked as a framer for two years before starting my own business in 85. I have designed and built many different types of structures. Before that, I was a certified Honda motorcycle mechanic. I was the head mechanic in a management position. The variety of tools I've used through the years has been an amazing experience. Through the many years, the countless tools, there has always been one answer to the question.....what's your favorite tool. MY CHAIN SAW!!!! I'm just in a different place with a saw in my hands. I've never run a saw under 79cc. The first saw a bought in the late 70s was the Stihl 051....90cc saw. There's no replacement for displacement.
As a chainsaw collector this just became my new favorite channel on UA-cam. Actually mad I haven't seen any of your videos before lol. Edit: no longer a saw collector, now identify as a chainsaw enthusiast thanks to you lol
Great video. Yes, you do ramble on and on, but you do finally get to the point. This is one of the videos where the instruction is nearly immediate. 👏👏👏👏👏😉👏😉
Very well explained, in Germany you have to get a chainsaw driving license to be able to go into the forest to cut firewood. This shows that you should put your foot in the grip. I also find it quite energy-consuming...Your method is the better one. Greetings from Germany..Peter.
@@billybongthornton4285 Yes...Unfortunately, this is Germany. You must wear cut protection trousers and a helmet, as well as cut protection shoes. Without this certificate you won't get any wood. Germany is getting worse and worse.
I was taught how to "drop start" like this by bushman back when I was a kid, and when I could barely lift the things (046 & 066s). I have been paid out for over 30 years for starting saws this way by people that will never have the experience that my teachers had clocked up. Nice one Buckin'. Thank you good Sir.
Thanks I'm a drop start guy. Same I have had so many people tell me how unsafe I start my saw. But like you my lower back is a mess. I agree that is what the hand break is for and I don't start my saw with a bunch of people are standing around me
Mr Billy Ray io seguo il canale ormai da tempo ed ogni volta trovo una persona che con molta esperienza ed umiltà mi insegna modi di intendere il lavoro duro ma stupendo che ha scelto io a 51 anni mi trovo sempre a godere di quello che alla fine diventa anche una lezione di vita, con Grande Rispetto auguro ancora molti anni così felici in salute e circondato da persone care ❤
Thank you Buckin’ Keep up the good work !!! I have learned a lot from you over the years !!! You were one of the guys that helped me take a step of faith and leave the Aerospace Industry after 22 years and start a landscaping and Drainage business !!! Love ya
If I see a video of a guy that starts a saw with it on the ground and he's wearing new chaps, new gloves and new helmet with face shield and ear pro, I just chuckle and shut it off.
Been watching for years Buckin and by far your still my favorite!!! I start all my saws same way and always have!!! Love it!! My lower back is same and I'm only 48!!
Buckin , you nailed it , there is no right or wrong way to start a powersaw , Its all in what works for the individual , but if i must say drop starting saves the hell out of the shoulders, arms and upper back.
Thr goat of everything chainsaws. Thank you for your endless wisdom Buckin’ and encouraging all of us to go out and do - to seek our own powersaw know how!
Great video, Billy Ray! I've always thought the same thing about starting a saw on the ground. That rotation is bad for your back, ergonomically speaking. If you want to damage your lower discs, that bent over pull will do it. I've already had open back surgery and when I asked the surgeon how I possibly damaged my disc (and how to avoid another back surgery), he said this movement, along with shoveling heavy granite rocks and tossing the load to the side is a good way to damage discs. I use the "throw" method with the brake on only now.
Buckin' , thank you for your words of wisdom at the end. those are always the parts I cherish the most. love ya brother, 10 years rolling strong!
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Just like to see your personality you are such a knowledgeable guy and appear to genuinely appreciate life while sharing your opinions and experiences. Thank you for the knowledge and great positive messages. Great Job!!!
I know a story first hand of a company qualificathat two ladies started a saw after failing singly. One held saw down with her feet the other two handed the pull. She was proud she got it going. Each or dual to their own.. Great demo BBRS!
Love your videos! And yeah ive been told your stating it wrong if you don't put your foot in it and bend over and all that, funny thing is ive been drop starting them since i was 16 and never had any problem with it. I was happy to pick up a homlite xl at a yard sale 32 years ago and been cutting trees down ever since, i just really enjoy it!
Hi Buckin, loving your video's down here in Australia!! just wanted to clarify one thing for you, the wider part of plastic you were trying to uncomfortably stand on isnt actually meant for standing on while starting. It is to protect your hand in the event of the chain coming off.
Thanks... I am a beginner with chainsaws. Your illustration of how to "drop start" a chainsaw has finally made me understand the mechanics of it all... "Throwing the saw" makes so much sense...
Saw enthusiast here, I always drop start it holding the D handle but you make a good point about holding the throttle handle to be able to tease it if needed. Good vid, as always entertaining as usual:) thanks !
Thank you Billy. For all of your great tips and tricks. However, I find that when starting a chain saw, or lawn mower or small outboard motors, snow blower or pressure washer etc. our best bet is to always use recently purchased fresh fuel as that is the biggest help in making starting easier. Gasoline absorbs water from the atmosphere and degrades. The older it gets the lower to octane rating gets. Drain any old gasoline. I dispose of any old gasoline I have in a containers that is more than 6 weeks old by simply pouring it into the fuel tank on my truck.
Fun video! As to your point of “everyone is different” My back ailments require me to start the saw on the ground for a cold start. Or at least that the way I’ve found most comfortable on my back. After warm, it’s easier to drop start. Just my opinion/personal experience on the matter!
Thanks Buckin. I've been "drop starting" my saws for years and always somewhat bothered by the stigma that what I am doing is "unsafe". I've never felt unsafe which is why I continue to do it. Thanks for the interesting and informative video.
I learned to drop start from day one from dad, that being said in the early 80’s a Jonsereds 80 had no compression release, you had to commit to starting it by throwing it down hard. If you didn’t you would never get it started, they had a lot of kick to them. Just make sure you wore your big boy pants! 😁
great segment sir. I seldom set the saw on the ground to start it. I've been using the throw method for years. its what works best for me. I only cut firewood for me and its about time to get started again just as soon as the leaves drop. thanks for sharing.
I’m subscribing to your channel Buckin all the comments that are left there the positive ones I haven’t read any negative ones. Thank you for your wisdom and positive positive attitude
If Buckin' was my teacher at school I would have diplomas at everything. Just perfect info with right amount of entertainment 😎 It's 22:35 here but I got the urge to wake my neighours and do some buckin 🤣
Stihl manuals mention both the ground method and leg lock method as acceptable. I like the leg lock as I don't have to bend over for it. A trick I like is to gently pull until the first "pop" where it passes top dead center. Then, let it retract and do a full-length pull. Chikanic explains it better (with a demonstration as well). Drop starting/pull starting is definitely beneficial for larger saws though.
Good tutorial Buckin. Best way is to have a saw that starts well. Nothing more frustrating than having an old saw that hasn’t been maintained and hard to start.
I am 76 years old and I cut a lot of wood today with my Stilh 500i Chansaw. First thing I recommend is empty the old gas and put in fresh before starting your saw.
I don't know...I think a drop start and a throw start are pretty much the same thing. Yeah, different angles, but the same principal. As a former climber I used to "drop" start a lot up in the tree by throwing the saw away from me. As an aging sawyer (56) I like to drop start stubborn saws the easy way whenever I can. No need to bend over and put a foot through the handle when I can let the saw do the work. And a flooded 660 I usually always start by throwing it over a v notch at full throttle. Keep bringing the good content Buckin'.
I just wanna say when he started the last chainsaw you can hear that bellping if you ever get to get a hold of an old chainsaw that noise it makes ping its own harmony lots of old saw it puts a smile on your face, when you started up that lovely go back and watch the video again you’ll hear it he never gets old
This is bloody bravo and beneficial Buckin' Billy!!! I'm glad I watched your video. I could never understand why the place to put your foot (really tiny area also) to hold the saw is on the wrong side for a right handed person. Using the heel trick is going to work wonders for me. I have a small saw and fortunately do not have to struggle that much. I find it much harder to start the saw with the brake on so I prefer to leave it off but my saw is on the ground and away from anything that might get in the way of the chain. The only reason I think one shouldn't start the saw like you do, is because there may be a possibility whereby someone might forget to engage the brake which could be more dangerous?? If my saw has been running and I know I can start it first pull.....I use the drop method all the time. Its just too easy. I also noticed the way you start it you are pulling the cord in line with the machine. Your pull cord will last longer and its with the least amount of resistance. One thing is for certain, I hate a pull start on anything.
Echo has a good system...pull the choke out, pull rope till you hear 1 fire then push in choke which still allows 1/4 preset throttle if you don't touch the throttle and it starts every time at high idle. If it's really cold do the same process again, it starts every time. Throwing saw down as well
I'll drop start after the saw is warm. First start I will usually pinch the handle between my thighs and do a push pull type of thing. I always enjoy the positivity Buckin!
jesus that looks easy in your expert hands.......i worked my butt off with the foot to the ground, hope i`ll start it using your methods. Just your silent admirer here.
Hi Buckin, Rolling the saw over slow really works very well to get the fuel pulled up into the carb. I have been using that method going on 3 years now, getting older makes a person think about how to do things with a little less effort. Half the time when cold starting my saws they will false start on the 3rd or 4rth slow roll from that point another 1or 2 pulls and off to the races. I find this method to be much easier on starter parts and pull cords.
I have to sit and think about how I start my saws because it’s second nature to me. I guess I use “all of the above” for whatever situation I’m in at that moment. Thanks Buckin!
Working at a hospital the only starting injury I have seen was a guy ground starting a saw that lost his footing and fell on the saw. So those injuries are more significant due to the body weight hitting the chain. My Dad ran tree trimming crews for utility companies and saw the same thing happen to a guy. So if guys are going to ground start a saw it needs to be on some good footing. I have started saws using every method in the last 35 years. Just depends on the situation. Rarely have the need to ground start.
Great tutorial Billy! Your drop starting method has the same mechanics involved as drawing a heavy compound bow. If you are a right handed bow shooter, you don't extend the left arm out and then draw the string back with just your right arm. You simultaneously push out the bow with your left arm and draw back the string with your right thereby dividing the effort between the two arms. See you at Bunyan friend!
True story , many many years ago we were hauling logs out of a logging camp up the Kalama River (Washington) into town at night. Like in the day time any over hang has to be flagged but at night you have lights on cords to put on them . This one night we were getting a bunch of odd ball loads with mismatched length logs so we were hanging lights on every load. If your lights didn’t reach the end of the log you just cut it off. The yard saw was what ever junk the saw shop left out to use. This night the saw was a beat up old Stihl 0-65,000 hundred something, big ole saw, and the clutch was froze up which meant you were turning the chain over too, which made it almost impossible to start. My buddy was trying to start it when he asked how in the world guys had started it. Being a smart a&& I told him they were putting it on a log and push starting like a car. When he thought no one was looking he tried it but knew he had been pranked went we all started laughing. Something told him it wouldn’t work, but, he knew it as soon as he tried it.
Iv been watching your channel off and on through the years love your thoughts on life are very real .have mower that has along start cord on it and took inspiration from the way you start your saws push mower forward using weight of mower to do the work
No question it's a personal preference thing and drop starting is typical among people with saw skills but there is only thing I would add. Some smaller "Homer" saws have an EZ-start feature on the recoil. The first part of the pull on the cord winds up a spring that then helps pull the saw over. If you drop start those saws you will tear up the EZ-start.
THANK YOU! I have a HORRIBLE back (I am going to see a surgeon next month), and I have been having a horrible time trying to start my little saw. I'm a bit (10 years) older, and certainly not as strong as I was at 58. I am going to try your drop saw method tomorrow. I have a pretty good sized oak limb that fell, that i would like to get out of the middle of the back yard.
When your up in a Tree it would definitely be hard to start a Saw like the Manual says to. I don't like stepping on my Saw. To me that's Saw Abuse. I really like the way you start the Saw Buckin. Pops hope they find out what's wrong with you with the new Tests. Great Video Buckin. That Mac looks heavy.
i've always used the standard drop start, tried your throw start one time and a crack in the plastic casing over the air cover had a big crack that grabbed my hand and tore me open a bit. but if i got a saw thats really fighting me i've been known to set it down, ideally on a log but ground if i need to, put a foot in it and tag the trigger with the toe of my boot to help it start
lol that Mac sounds like a old cr250 idling… love the clutch sound old saws are my fav I have a old ass homelite climber saw and boy do I love that thing
A while ago Buckin taught me it's safe and acceptable to drop start a saw. youtube is full of loud talking, keyboard pounding fakes. This guy is the coolest uncle I never had, overflowing with wisdom and real life lessons.
Thank you Buckin' Billy Ray
Not so fast, Kemosabe! Try starting it with TM. Then you done something.
Being 74, I used to put my foot thru the handle with the saw on the ground. It worked but after watching your video, I tried some different ways and it ends up throwing the saw away seemed to work best. Thanks for the entertaining and educational video.
Great tutorial Buck. I'm 69yrs old and weigh just 140lbs, I've been starting saws exactly the way you do. Putting your foot in the base of the handle and bending over to try and start your saws is a good way to snatch your sciatic nerve and give yourself hell for months.
Throwing your saw down is y far the easiest and in my opinion the safest way always, to start your saw.
Thanks for all your advice, keep at it Buck.!
Hi Buckin, you are such a positive & uplifting teacher!!
This video is so important for all of us who have trouble starting a high cc “power saw”! I have no problem starting my Stihl 181 - but it’s quite a chore for me to start Tim’s 500i. I used to push the decompression button, but I’ve recently been trying the way I see you slowly pulling your saws 2 or 3 times before starting them. This has helped me a lot.
As a woman, I naturally lack the upper body strength that helps you and most men make this process look effortless 🤷🏻♀️ BUT, what I lack in physical strength, I make up for with determination, and once I get that thing started, it’s music to my ears and I love how much power it has! (Just an old grandma’s opinion!😊)
Thank you for always making each of us feel like we are perfect just the way we are! 🥰
Yer awesome Laura Rose 🌹
@@BuckinBillyRaySmith luv ya Buckin😊
@@BuckinBillyRaySmith hope your dad’s doing well. Hope to see him on future live or a video like to see him still kicking.
@@BuckinBillyRaySmith ECHO OK CHEINSAW ? ISPIRIENS ?
That's absolutely correct. Be a man of steel but most importantly have a heart of gold, if you have that the steel will come
YOU are so cool and a great teacher Buckin,i am 63 in a wheelchair and still cut wood as often as i can. Isit my saw in my crotch and DROP START IT. AWSOME VIDIOS I WATCH YOU AS MUCH AS I CAN.THANKS
That is BADASS
I agree with the other gentleman. You are bad ass for doing that. Good for you.!
Remember we are Africa talk well
Thank you Billy Ray! Your videos are life lessons that I always watch with pleasure. I have learned so much from you and I always find inspiration and motivation watching your videos. Thanks to people like you I changed the toxic job and started cutting trees. Now it's almost a year that I do this activity. I express my sincere gratitude and wish you the best.
Did you do this twice by mistake friend
@@BuckinBillyRaySmith I think it's a UA-cam bug,but it would have been worth it, since i got dozens of free lessons. If you want to visit northern Italy, i would be happy to be your guide 👍🏼. Bogdan
@@bogdan3130love ya buddy
I never new I did the throw start until I saw myself on video. It just comes natural to me. Thanks for the great video!
I'm just going to say.. that wasn't the sun creeping around on you there Buckin' .. That was gods light shining upon you for being such a good man. Men of steel with hearts of gold are the best kind of men. 👍
That could be one of the best compliments I have ever read. Beautifully said.
That very nice 😊
@@BuckinBillyRaySmith I couldn't agree more on the "find your own" starting procedure Buckin'.
@@Montana_horseman what a beautiful thing to say about this great man.
I agree very nice to say and we’ll deserved
I'm a general contractor in the NE. When I got into construction I worked as a framer for two years before starting my own business in 85. I have designed and built many different types of structures. Before that, I was a certified Honda motorcycle mechanic. I was the head mechanic in a management position. The variety of tools I've used through the years has been an amazing experience. Through the many years, the countless tools, there has always been one answer to the question.....what's your favorite tool. MY CHAIN SAW!!!! I'm just in a different place with a saw in my hands. I've never run a saw under 79cc. The first saw a bought in the late 70s was the Stihl 051....90cc saw. There's no replacement for displacement.
Yeap something about a chainsaw !
As a chainsaw collector this just became my new favorite channel on UA-cam. Actually mad I haven't seen any of your videos before lol.
Edit: no longer a saw collector, now identify as a chainsaw enthusiast thanks to you lol
This is a great video. My favorite videos are when you teach. You are a natural teacher.
Great video. Yes, you do ramble on and on, but you do finally get to the point. This is one of the videos where the instruction is nearly immediate. 👏👏👏👏👏😉👏😉
Very well explained, in Germany you have to get a chainsaw driving license to be able to go into the forest to cut firewood. This shows that you should put your foot in the grip. I also find it quite energy-consuming...Your method is the better one.
Greetings from Germany..Peter.
License to cut wood 😮? That's insane 😂
@@billybongthornton4285 Yes...Unfortunately, this is Germany.
You must wear cut protection trousers and a helmet, as well as cut protection shoes.
Without this certificate you won't get any wood.
Germany is getting worse and worse.
Thats what leftists do...control every aspect of your life.@naturundhund
@@naturundhund Soon the won't sell you a saw without a license !
@jameslovering9158 Everything possible...
It's getting worse and worse.
I was taught how to "drop start" like this by bushman back when I was a kid, and when I could barely lift the things (046 & 066s). I have been paid out for over 30 years for starting saws this way by people that will never have the experience that my teachers had clocked up. Nice one Buckin'. Thank you good Sir.
Thanks I'm a drop start guy. Same I have had so many people tell me how unsafe I start my saw. But like you my lower back is a mess. I agree that is what the hand break is for and I don't start my saw with a bunch of people are standing around me
Mr Billy Ray io seguo il canale ormai da tempo ed ogni volta trovo una persona che con molta esperienza ed umiltà mi insegna modi di intendere il lavoro duro ma stupendo che ha scelto io a 51 anni mi trovo sempre a godere di quello che alla fine diventa anche una lezione di vita, con Grande Rispetto auguro ancora molti anni così felici in salute e circondato da persone care ❤
Thank you for writing me friend 😊
You’re always on point, and have some of the best prospectives out there. Great video Buckin!
Thank you Buckin’ Keep up the good work !!! I have learned a lot from you over the years !!! You were one of the guys that helped me take a step of faith and leave the Aerospace Industry after 22 years and start a landscaping and Drainage business !!!
Love ya
If I see a video of a guy that starts a saw with it on the ground and he's wearing new chaps, new gloves and new helmet with face shield and ear pro, I just chuckle and shut it off.
Super happy for you friend
Been watching for years Buckin and by far your still my favorite!!! I start all my saws same way and always have!!! Love it!! My lower back is same and I'm only 48!!
Right on
Buckin , you nailed it , there is no right or wrong way to start a powersaw , Its all in what works for the individual , but if i must say drop starting saves the hell out of the shoulders, arms and upper back.
There is definitely a wrong way. Like with the bar between your legs.
Thr goat of everything chainsaws. Thank you for your endless wisdom Buckin’ and encouraging all of us to go out and do - to seek our own powersaw know how!
It’s the only way brother
You talk to my soul. Thank you for your time and videos. God bless you and your family
You are so welcome
Another informative video. Thanks Buckin, always looking forward to the next one. Prayers and thoughts
Hello friend
Yet another great video and good points. No one set method, do what feels safe and effective for you and you're doing it right
Well said!
More than 2 years I follow you daily
I still learning
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@@BuckinBillyRaySmith you are very very special for me.
I got no family
Two weekends ago my buddy said I couldn't drop start his ol XL925.. but did I show him. Excellent demonstration on this video Buckin! Love ya
Great video, Billy Ray! I've always thought the same thing about starting a saw on the ground. That rotation is bad for your back, ergonomically speaking. If you want to damage your lower discs, that bent over pull will do it. I've already had open back surgery and when I asked the surgeon how I possibly damaged my disc (and how to avoid another back surgery), he said this movement, along with shoveling heavy granite rocks and tossing the load to the side is a good way to damage discs. I use the "throw" method with the brake on only now.
Buckin' , thank you for your words of wisdom at the end. those are always the parts I cherish the most. love ya brother, 10 years rolling strong!
Just like to see your personality you are such a knowledgeable guy and appear to genuinely appreciate life while sharing your opinions and experiences. Thank you for the knowledge and great positive messages. Great Job!!!
I appreciate that!
I'm a drop start guy that's the way I was taught. Never had and issue. Love the video buckin
You the man Buckin. Just plain and simple, and common sense. God bless.
I know a story first hand of a company qualificathat two ladies started a saw after failing singly. One held saw down with her feet the other two handed the pull. She was proud she got it going. Each or dual to their own..
Great demo BBRS!
Enjoyed the lesson Buckin. Thank you.
Welcome friend
Love your videos! And yeah ive been told your stating it wrong if you don't put your foot in it and bend over and all that, funny thing is ive been drop starting them since i was 16 and never had any problem with it. I was happy to pick up a homlite xl at a yard sale 32 years ago and been cutting trees down ever since, i just really enjoy it!
Hi Buckin, loving your video's down here in Australia!!
just wanted to clarify one thing for you, the wider part of plastic you were trying to uncomfortably stand on isnt actually meant for standing on while starting. It is to protect your hand in the event of the chain coming off.
Thanks... I am a beginner with chainsaws. Your illustration of how to "drop start" a chainsaw has finally made me understand the mechanics of it all... "Throwing the saw" makes so much sense...
This man has learned me so so so many new things about tree work.
Me too I agree with you completely
Glad to help friend
Saw enthusiast here, I always drop start it holding the D handle but you make a good point about holding the throttle handle to be able to tease it if needed. Good vid, as always entertaining as usual:) thanks !
Groovy pal
God Bless Buckin'
Thank you Billy. For all of your great tips and tricks.
However, I find that when starting a chain saw, or lawn mower or small outboard motors, snow blower or pressure washer etc. our best bet is to always use recently purchased fresh fuel as that is the biggest help in making starting easier. Gasoline absorbs water from the atmosphere and degrades. The older it gets the lower to octane rating gets. Drain any old gasoline. I dispose of any old gasoline I have in a containers that is more than 6 weeks old by simply pouring it into the fuel tank on my truck.
Fun video! As to your point of “everyone is different” My back ailments require me to start the saw on the ground for a cold start. Or at least that the way I’ve found most comfortable on my back. After warm, it’s easier to drop start. Just my opinion/personal experience on the matter!
Love the old Mac sounds like a Harley 😂
I just rebuilt an old mac 10-10 (old right hand start) My neighbor came over to see what chainsaw was barking like that.. 😆 I love that sound too! 👍
They are a symphony to my ears. I have over 30 McCulloch's and about 55 total chainsaws. 😅
Thanks Buckin. I've been "drop starting" my saws for years and always somewhat bothered by the stigma that what I am doing is "unsafe". I've never felt unsafe which is why I continue to do it. Thanks for the interesting and informative video.
Buckin you’re a stud, I love it man🙏🏾thanks for being real and authentic
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BBRS, you sure are a "Ray" of sunshine......Peace, love and powersaws!
It makes me so happy when I see the jolkster’s name
I learned to drop start from day one from dad, that being said in the early 80’s a Jonsereds 80 had no compression release, you had to commit to starting it by throwing it down hard. If you didn’t you would never get it started, they had a lot of kick to them. Just make sure you wore your big boy pants! 😁
Love that big block 125 Buckin.
great segment sir. I seldom set the saw on the ground to start it. I've been using the throw method for years. its what works best for me. I only cut firewood for me and its about time to get started again just as soon as the leaves drop. thanks for sharing.
The look on Buckin's face when the McCulloch super pro 125 starts up for the first time cold - priceless!
He he
I’m subscribing to your channel Buckin all the comments that are left there the positive ones I haven’t read any negative ones.
Thank you for your wisdom and positive positive attitude
Welcome to the buckin army 🪖
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If Buckin' was my teacher at school I would have diplomas at everything. Just perfect info with right amount of entertainment 😎 It's 22:35 here but I got the urge to wake my neighours and do some buckin 🤣
The chainsaw gods are shining a ray of sunshine on a "sensible elder of power saws."
I think you're an excellent teacher.
Nice of you to say
Stihl manuals mention both the ground method and leg lock method as acceptable. I like the leg lock as I don't have to bend over for it. A trick I like is to gently pull until the first "pop" where it passes top dead center. Then, let it retract and do a full-length pull. Chikanic explains it better (with a demonstration as well).
Drop starting/pull starting is definitely beneficial for larger saws though.
Good tutorial Buckin. Best way is to have a saw that starts well. Nothing more frustrating than having an old saw that hasn’t been maintained and hard to start.
Hope your dad is doing better today. God bless.
I am 76 years old and I cut a lot of wood today with my Stilh 500i Chansaw. First thing I recommend is empty the old gas and put in fresh before starting your saw.
I don't know...I think a drop start and a throw start are pretty much the same thing. Yeah, different angles, but the same principal. As a former climber I used to "drop" start a lot up in the tree by throwing the saw away from me. As an aging sawyer (56) I like to drop start stubborn saws the easy way whenever I can. No need to bend over and put a foot through the handle when I can let the saw do the work. And a flooded 660 I usually always start by throwing it over a v notch at full throttle. Keep bringing the good content Buckin'.
Thanks Buckin! Saving my shoulder
Good
I just wanna say when he started the last chainsaw you can hear that bellping if you ever get to get a hold of an old chainsaw that noise it makes ping its own harmony lots of old saw it puts a smile on your face, when you started up that lovely go back and watch the video again you’ll hear it he never gets old
Right on Billy thanks for the ❤️
Much agreed I wouldn’t start a saw on the ground with my foot either lots of good points in this video!
This is bloody bravo and beneficial Buckin' Billy!!! I'm glad I watched your video. I could never understand why the place to put your foot (really tiny area also) to hold the saw is on the wrong side for a right handed person. Using the heel trick is going to work wonders for me. I have a small saw and fortunately do not have to struggle that much. I find it much harder to start the saw with the brake on so I prefer to leave it off but my saw is on the ground and away from anything that might get in the way of the chain. The only reason I think one shouldn't start the saw like you do, is because there may be a possibility whereby someone might forget to engage the brake which could be more dangerous?? If my saw has been running and I know I can start it first pull.....I use the drop method all the time. Its just too easy. I also noticed the way you start it you are pulling the cord in line with the machine. Your pull cord will last longer and its with the least amount of resistance. One thing is for certain, I hate a pull start on anything.
Don’t go sissy on it,I haven't heard that in a long time, and I’m old😂😂😂😂. That 125 is the most beautiful saw I have ever seen. Great video funny.🙏🪓
Wait til Bunyan
Love your content buckin, I learn something new every video!
I appreciate that
I needed this video!! If my saw doesn't start right away I will be done!! Thanks for this video!! Keep up the awesome videos!!
Echo has a good system...pull the choke out, pull rope till you hear 1 fire then push in choke which still allows 1/4 preset throttle if you don't touch the throttle and it starts every time at high idle. If it's really cold do the same process again, it starts every time. Throwing saw down as well
I'll drop start after the saw is warm. First start I will usually pinch the handle between my thighs and do a push pull type of thing. I always enjoy the positivity Buckin!
The macs have a so unique sound…i’m loving it! So nice to see the old girl in action!
You bet
The dad we wish we all had! Ya have taught me loads about power saws. Ty
That Mac is a beautiful unit.
Oh . Yes .. yes it is 😊
The mac 125 bought a tear to my eye as it sounded like my Yamaha YZ 250 from back in the late 70's
jesus that looks easy in your expert hands.......i worked my butt off with the foot to the ground, hope i`ll start it using your methods. Just your silent admirer here.
Make sure hand brake is on
Hi Buckin, Rolling the saw over slow really works very well to get the fuel pulled up into the carb. I have been using that method going on 3 years now, getting older makes a person think about how to do things with a little less effort. Half the time when cold starting my saws they will false start on the 3rd or 4rth slow roll from that point another 1or 2 pulls and off to the races. I find this method to be much easier on starter parts and pull cords.
Good stuff
Been watching for 10 years
Hey Buckin, the beanie I bought from you 5-6 years ago is still going strong 👍🏻 perfect for these 4c spring nights in Aus
Right on Dano
Love it Buckin! You had me laughing at 10.43! 😂
I have to sit and think about how I start my saws because it’s second nature to me. I guess I use “all of the above” for whatever situation I’m in at that moment. Thanks Buckin!
Working at a hospital the only starting injury I have seen was a guy ground starting a saw that lost his footing and fell on the saw. So those injuries are more significant due to the body weight hitting the chain. My Dad ran tree trimming crews for utility companies and saw the same thing happen to a guy. So if guys are going to ground start a saw it needs to be on some good footing. I have started saws using every method in the last 35 years. Just depends on the situation. Rarely have the need to ground start.
Great tutorial Billy! Your drop starting method has the same mechanics involved as drawing a heavy compound bow. If you are a right handed bow shooter, you don't extend the left arm out and then draw the string back with just your right arm. You simultaneously push out the bow with your left arm and draw back the string with your right thereby dividing the effort between the two arms. See you at Bunyan friend!
You got it
True story , many many years ago we were hauling logs out of a logging camp up the Kalama River (Washington) into town at night. Like in the day time any over hang has to be flagged but at night you have lights on cords to put on them . This one night we were getting a bunch of odd ball loads with mismatched length logs so we were hanging lights on every load. If your lights didn’t reach the end of the log you just cut it off. The yard saw was what ever junk the saw shop left out to use. This night the saw was a beat up old Stihl 0-65,000 hundred something, big ole saw, and the clutch was froze up which meant you were turning the chain over too, which made it almost impossible to start. My buddy was trying to start it when he asked how in the world guys had started it. Being a smart a&& I told him they were putting it on a log and push starting like a car. When he thought no one was looking he tried it but knew he had been pranked went we all started laughing. Something told him it wouldn’t work, but, he knew it as soon as he tried it.
Iv been watching your channel off and on through the years love your thoughts on life are very real .have mower that has along start cord on it and took inspiration from the way you start your saws push mower forward using weight of mower to do the work
i 100% agree with the starting not sure i can even bend that low, old mac like holding onto a rm 80, that thing sounds gooood
No question it's a personal preference thing and drop starting is typical among people with saw skills but there is only thing I would add. Some smaller "Homer" saws have an EZ-start feature on the recoil. The first part of the pull on the cord winds up a spring that then helps pull the saw over. If you drop start those saws you will tear up the EZ-start.
Love the sound of the old saws. My pioneer sounds awesome n loud.
Man you remind me of my dad so much. Keep ramblin!
Wise words my friend, Wise words indeed. Love you Buckin'
THANK YOU! I have a HORRIBLE back (I am going to see a surgeon next month), and I have been having a horrible time trying to start my little saw. I'm a bit (10 years) older, and certainly not as strong as I was at 58. I am going to try your drop saw method tomorrow. I have a pretty good sized oak limb that fell, that i would like to get out of the middle of the back yard.
Best of luck!. Start it with yer hand break on
When your up in a Tree it would definitely be hard to start a Saw like the Manual says to. I don't like stepping on my Saw. To me that's Saw Abuse. I really like the way you start the Saw Buckin. Pops hope they find out what's wrong with you with the new Tests. Great Video Buckin. That Mac looks heavy.
Thank you my friend
It couldn’t be any simpler, well said buckin
Love the beginning of the video, shine on you crazy diamond! Love ya big man!
Glad you enjoyed
That's a nice stack of cherry firewood you got. Aside from ash and oak, that's my favorite firewood. The smell is unbelievable when you cut it.
Billy best regards from Poland! Love your videos!
Every government agency I've worked for would damn near fire you for drop starting a chainsaw. Same people that would put bar oil in the gas tank.
All the forestry professionals in NZ would do the former. While none would probably do the later.
S2! Love your editing! (Along with everything else! )
Thank you so much!!
Love this content thx buckin ‼️
Kool
I've been a faller for over 25 years.
I must start mine funny since everyone likes to watch me.
i've always used the standard drop start, tried your throw start one time and a crack in the plastic casing over the air cover had a big crack that grabbed my hand and tore me open a bit. but if i got a saw thats really fighting me i've been known to set it down, ideally on a log but ground if i need to, put a foot in it and tag the trigger with the toe of my boot to help it start
Very good Buckin, very funny as well. Agreed. 👍
lol that Mac sounds like a old cr250 idling… love the clutch sound old saws are my fav I have a old ass homelite climber saw and boy do I love that thing
I broke my lower back and I have to get on one knee to start my saws or have them sitting on a block. Good video thanks.