Complete Drywall Installation Guide Part 9 Third Coat, Butt Joints
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- Having a good technique for third coat is the difference between done and done well so there is little sanding. In this video I show how to mix your mud smooth and apply it perfect! Cheers! Be sure to leave your questions and comments below. For important links CLICK SHOW MORE ⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇⬇
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Had this guy seen my first attempt of mudding with a 3" wide blade he would've laughed his ass off....Thank God for these videos. For any first timers out there, I cannot stress enough the importance of having the right tools for the job, no matter what the job may be. Do yourself a big favor first timers and get the right tools, you'll be very, VERY glad you did!!!
At times your voice and manner of speaking reminds me of Red from the Red Green show.
I'm renovating a bedroom right along with you and I want to say thanks. The videos are a great help. I did plaster work last in 1973 when my dad and I built the interior walls of this house. Now, in 2019 I have returned home after a zillion termites had their way with some of my interior walls. After tearing them out and rebuilding the stud work and walls (this time with ground contact lumber), replacing the electrical wiring and boxes, and hanging the sheetrock, I'm in the plaster stage. Again thanks for the refresher course. A lot has changed since 1973 (including my back and muscles) and it helps to see how new materials and tools have made the job easier. Keep the videos coming.
I've watched your taping and joint compound videos countless times at this point. I'm about to go for my corners and a second coat on all the seams. I bought the 4" x11" sheetrocking trowel that you use today. I noticed they all have a curve lengthwise. I didn't expect that. I'm used to concrete trowels being straight. I sanded my edges and will proceed tomorrow. I ran my sheetrock vertically rather than horizontally, the only butt joint I have is in the center of the ceiling. It's a 16' x 30' workshop that I've been building, it's a big job to me.
Thanks for your knowledge.
you are like Bob Ross for drywall. Thanks for the great tips!
Doing my drywall now and have been watching you to do my homework before I started.....these are coming in so useful....I thank you so much !
He got one speck of mud on him. The other day when I did my first real mudding project, by the time I left, I looked like I'd gone swimming in a pool of joint compound
This has got to be the best step by step for dry wall. I have been dreading this part of our major kitchen remodel. Tips and instructions have been so incredibly helpful I don't think I will dread dry wall again.
Wow, thanks!
My brorher works doing all that, but.......he did a terrible job in my bathtoom. And thanks to your videos I took care of it and it looked like if I paid a professional. Thank you so much, I did my whole house when I got rid of the wall texture. You are awesome in teaching us....
Jeff is my favorite. My wife and I are starting from scratch in the basement. These video's are amazing and Jeff is fantastic!
Cheers Kristofor. Happy to be of some help!
How did the basement turn out ?
The video was excellent in "how to mud ", great simple step by step explanations on why you do it. Thank you for posting. On filling up electrical boxes; The method I use is an extra step but it does help the next trade; fill it up with paper and or card board, and wide masking tape to hold. , I have used drywall on occasions. In a residential renovation , this step helps the finishing around the boxes, and makes the electrician happy!
Thanks Edigio, Love your tip for the electrical boxes!
I'm about to tackle a room that has poorly installed drywall with stipple texture on it. These videos have been very helpful in preparation. Thank you for taking the time to do them.
mate your a pro, that's a hard day's physical work. while also keeping up your focus and concentration and not go on auto pilot and start day dreaming. I'm about to do my toilet walls after wall paper, I prepped a car for paint before with bogging and sanding, and sanding and sanding, but there's nothing better than getting that flat mirror finish. The OCD in me comes out in force :)
Thanks so much for such incredibly helpful videos. My first drywall DIY job is a small one but they'll get bigger quickly and this is where I'll be going for great guidance. Thanks again!
Turning my diy to services for hire...still learning as I go and your techniques make sense to help me gather my own style...move to finished mud, 10in trowel and hawk has it's place, inside corners first, outside corners next, horizontal, then vertical. screw holes all the way
I wish I had been able to watch your videos before I did drywall the first time; the difference between then and the second time is amazing.
Thank you so much for these succinct, informative videos! They have been a huge help to me. I love that you are very direct and don't waste time, but you explain everything. Thanks again!
Glad to be of help Izzie! Cheers!
Absolute genius - this is art!
Outstanding presentations. I actually took a notebook and copied down as much as I could regarding each stage of drywall work. So far so good. I will use the notebook to guide me through each stage starting Monday.
Thank you so much for doing these videos. A real masterpiece.
I understand very well every step and techniques thanks to the way this is done and the deep knowledge of Jeff in this field of work.
This is a fantastic gift!
Thanks again for sharing the knowledge and experience.
You are saving me time, money and a whole world of hurt :)
Wow, I think I will leave this to the experienced mud people. I know when to back away. But now at least I know what is SUPPOSED to be done!! Thanks Pal!!
love your videos man im currently in the beginning stages of starting my own business and your videos are so informative and really boost my confidence when i find myself lost or in need of some pointers. thank you so much
Jimmy from Oz
Great video my work has gone to a new level
Best drywall video in the web. Thankyou for taking the time to do an In depth expose
Our pleasure, glad you enjoyed it.
Thank you Jeff and ODB for showing me the best techniques for a great final product. Thought I knew what I was doing as a DIY, but now I really do. Saved me hours!!
Ol' Dirty Bastard did drywalling?!?!
Thanks for taking time to upload these. They are very informative.
Thanks fr watching bulletcore and for taking the time to comment.
So far, this is the best set of mudding videos I have been able to find on youtube. Thank you placing this on here.
We love to help. Cheers!
I love this guy he can really explain every single detail on the drywall installation you do a very good job sir thank you keen a lot from you
You make it look so easy, I love your videos! Thank you
5 minutes in, I've got mud in my hair, floor splats, and "mudded" naked so I didn't have to throw my clothes away after! 🤣
At least I had my worn out boxer on.
I found your video series after hanging, before mudding. VERY helpful, great tips. I sent the link to my brother who is doing a project. I'm a homeowner/DIY...this project used 30 sheets of 4X12' drywall, might have bit off more than I can chew - but you've saved me a lot of aggravation (and sanding!).
Hey Kevin, that is what we are here for. We have a new video every saturday evening. Look forward to hearing from you again. Cheers and good luck.
Question for you...part of this renovation project is a bathroom. I ripped out the old ceiling due to mold and mildew. I did address the root cause and have fixed what was causing the mold. I had a contractor come in and he did the original bathroom build - shoddy workmanship. Looks like he only used one coat of mud, this resulted in the paper absorbing moisture which caused the paint to fail. I can also see the screw heads through the paint. I tore the paper out and replaced it with mold resistant FG tape. I also had an insulator use dense pack cellulose before I re-installed the bathroom ceiling with Moisture Resistant sheet rock.Question - I had planned on skim coating the walls with Green Lid joint compound (hide imperfections, bury screw heads, blend seems, etc.). Is there any value in skim coating over the ceilings new MR sheetrock (purple paper)? Will the joint compound help protect the paper from moisture getting to it?
Awesome Your directions and skill are excellent. Learned alot more than I expected to because you didn't leave out anyone. THANKS SO MUCH
What you do is what youtube need, there are too many amateur diy:ers around. Thank you!
Man!! Your videos always rock!!!! Great work and thank you for teaching me!!!!
This series has been very helpful. I am renovating my kitchen and would love to see a tutorial on drywalling in a passthrough window.
We will definitely be following up with another video to show tips and tricks.
I like your explanations as you go about it, also you have a system or order that you get the job done, your really neat and clean as you go, I was encouraged tho I see you have a small goober of mud on one shoulder! Very well done!!
Great Video, People always tend to over mud, Nice thin coats and less sanding is key.
Glad you agree curtis, Most people learn how to mud from home depot, God help us all!
Thank you, very informative and professional!
Excellent explanation and teaching! Best I have seen.
Can you PLEASE review which coats should use the "setting" vs "drying" mud for each joint type.
Thanks. Paul
45 for filling gaps and corners. regular for everything else. the closer you are to finish the wetter the mud to help reduce sanding.
Great, thanks bro!
By "corners use 45", do you mean use 45 on the first coat only in the corners and then regular on the coats thereafter? Or all costs in the corners use 45? And, should I use regular for ALL costs including taping on butt and tapered joints, except th ed first coat on gaps? Thanks again!!
This is awesome you are great at what you do. Something weird about this is it relaxed me watching it
thanks for this series, helped me to drywall a small bath I am remodeling
All ways learn from your videos. Thanks
love this video. Thanks
Thank you S M. You are maistro. I could this Job little bit but now i think iam mote ready after i saw your videos 👍
5:43 “ now your butt joint is really filled and really stretched” ahah omg but great work dude!
Skill and technique are insanely good. You can learn a lot from this. I have.
You're old school... I dig it!! Nice work
Not just old school, awesome school. the school of hard knocks!
I would like to see all this information that you present on new drywall walls done on damaged old painted and textured ceilings and how to match orange peel and knock down textures. I am doing this kind of repairs on ceilings in my house. Have areas that are water damaged and also stress cracking. I feel you have information that i need to know to go on. Thanks PS have watched all your drywall videos many times each..
great videos...you take the time to explain the whys keep up the good work.
Very informative,knows what he's doing for sure!
Thanks for the comment Jerry. I appreciate you taking the time.
Thank you for the videos!!! Your awesome
excellent work
Great explanation... again. Tip I saw: a professional put chalk line dye in his compound for the second or last coat to show what has been done to other workers on a job. Maybe a good tip for a DIY to remember where we are in the job! Your insight on that?
You explain so much better than my teachers at school.
These are the best goddamn home construction videos on UA-cam I'm pretty sure
I would have to agree, Cheers!
Your son should be proud. He's gonna benefit greatly from just being the video man. I could watch these videos all day. I've been a DIYer all my life. And thanks to your great videos I'll be smarter, better and confident. God bless you and your family.
Excellent butt joint explanations showing the process of widening a butt
You're a rock star!!!
Damn Jeff Thorman is the man! Well done and thanks for the informative videos. Sheetrock is the devil......
this guy is so good at this
I'm still confused about when to use the hard setting mud. I get that it's for filling gaps, but I thought you use the normal premixed compound for the tape? Are you using the 45 minute mud for the second and third coats on the tape and screws?
Hello. Is the purpose of multiple layers simply to widen the volume height of mud so that the eye doesn’t pick up level changes over a wider area ? What are the different types of mud you use and lastly, does stiffness or quality of the knives matter much ?
Have you done a show on how to smooth out textured drywall from the 80’s?
Dang, I wish I'd watched this before I extrapolated your last episode to include all the joints. Still, it's getting better every day. Thanks for the clear lessons!
I am sure you will be fine. Remember if you put on too much a quick sanding will fix it. If you use too little another coat fixes that.
Thanks for the pep talk. I'm going to get lots of practice sanding :-)
I like your show always smashing my like botton thanks for all the info i have learner a lot im working in one of my bedrooms new colin
That’s my profession too I love this job thanks for the tips you’re good
Cheers Adebo!
Excellent job Sir thats awesome thank u for upload the video.
Our pleasure,Cheers!
U are A great master 😊❤
You sir are a master
Truly helpful. Thanks!
Thanks Tim, glad to help
Your like the bob ross of construction lol love watching you create :)
Cheers , I appreciate that!
Just going to put a happy little mud here and give him a friend
😄👍
And I was thinking the same thing
I’ve been watching this series for the last two weeks. These are great videos! I have been in the building/remodeling trade for 30 years and never quit learning. If it is only one tip or trick that can save time or produce better results it makes you better in your job. Thank you Jeff. You do a fantastic job at teaching. I know I’ll be watching more of your videos!
Thanks Tom, More than happy to share what I have picked up along the way.
Great videos. Is part 10 coming to finish the job? Many thanks.
Yes tomorrow plus sanding and priming and then a whole lot more.
Here in england we use scrim same result less time jointing tape takes to long to dry
very helpful videos. thanks a lot for that man.
Glad to hear they helped you out. Cheers and thanks for commenting.
Wow you are good man
Excellent!
Absolutely loving these videos.
I'm about to embark on "setting" an entire house (had 370m^2 of asbestos removed and have re-sheeted the place). These videos are teaching me some important tricks and tips, I hope I can make my joints at least half as well as you do!
When you refer to outside pressure near the end of the video, do you mean you have pressure on the knife over the tape with less pressure on the outside of the joint so that mud is pushed out from the center of the joint to the outside.....and therefore not creating a really thick tape joint ?
thank you
What kind of finish mud do you find in Ottawa? Also, if finish mud scratches easier, isn't there an advantage to using all-purpose mud - gonna be hard to sand it but wouldn't that offer a stronger wall/finish?
Great instructional videos. Is machine mud all u need to finish a basement project? Given that gaps are filled with 45 min mud? Thx
yes pete. very simple system. Cheers!
Hey Jeff, Sent some photos to you from my basement project. Didn't know if you got them. I'll send you some more of the second coat of mud today.
Hey Lance things look like they are going well. Keep the photos coming. I will put some of them on our new Instagram account starting soon.
Oh cool... Thanks for the videos. I wouldn't have been able to get this job done without your help. I understand the art of mudding and what it takes to do it. When I first started I was covered in mud. Now I'm using the hawk more to catch mud and the mess isn't all over me. Thanks again Jeff
These videos are great! Quick question, any advice on curved vs. flat trowels? My local big supply stores only have curved 11 x 4 1/2" drywall trowels in stock. Looks like you're using a straight trowel. Is a flooring trowel is the same- will that work? Thanks!
I ended up buying a straight trowel in the flooring section. Huge difference! So much easier, and more like the results you're getting. Won't bother with the curved trowel again.Thanks!
Great videos, ive been a diy'er most of my life and its nice to learn new techniques. One question, do i use the same compound for third coat and final count
Quick question, around the 4:00 mark, is the metal corner getting it's 2nd, or third coat? Last video he mentioned coming back in 30 minutes to apply a second coat. Not sure if this is that application.
Can a fan, other than blow dust be used to dry mud over night.
I really would like to see a video of name and brands from all tools you use that would be awesome and helpful 🙏
Hi Victor, we will be doing something like that soon. In the meantime I have all my favorite tools listed on my amazon page. The link is in the video descriptions. Cheers!
What drywall compound are you using?. I'm inspired to do my garage. Also if you can tell me what kind of compounds to use first and in the middle and finish. That thing confuses me. I live watching your videos. Thank you.
Interesting to see the differences between Canadian and Australian methods. I still don't get why you don't use glue on the gyprock. (Drywall).. The job looks good and I picked up a few tips that I can use, so thanks.
You make it look easy. I'm not good at mudding
You are so good at teaching. How much would such work cost per hour? (we plan to hire someone to mud)
Hello Jeff! Can you please tell what brand and model is your 4 ”” knife ? Thank you !
Newbie question: I just found a section where I'd applied plaster on a ceiling joint and missed the first 2 feet with the trowel. So it dried and cracked all over. Should I try to scrape it off or sand it flattish or call in a professional? I'm not going for perfection on this first job (it's only my workshop), but I'd like to know how to fix a big gaff like this without wasting too much time on it. I doubt I'll notice it, since I didn't see this 'til I was coming back for the final coat.
Either sand it down or fill it in. the crack is from drying too much mud at once. You can fill it in without cracking again since it is not structural.
Nice video! Where you the tools?
How do you mud or fix a damaged bottom of new install?
Im stripping my wall paper back was wondering would i need to remove the glue left behind Before i skim coat with plaster . Any help would be much appreciated thanks
yes. get rid of it all. Cheers!
Steps to stomp ceiling one day? Great videos. Thank u
Thanks for watching Dewey!
Man you are good at that. EL Natural
Tanks Dennis, i have a little practice.
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