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  • @unixtreme
    @unixtreme 3 дні тому +177

    I didn't know koalas had fingerprints similar to humans.

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +13

      Right? It's SO weird!

    • @Orosian5
      @Orosian5 3 дні тому +8

      ngl: I didn't watch the video, I just read the thumbnail.

    • @grandsome1
      @grandsome1 3 дні тому +1

      ​@@ProperBirddon't underestimate us lol

    • @wfb.subtraktor311
      @wfb.subtraktor311 2 дні тому

      Dammit, I came here to comment that as well :D

    • @deptusmechanikus7362
      @deptusmechanikus7362 День тому

      I'm telling you, it was the koala, officer! You have to believe me!

  • @icesave1
    @icesave1 3 дні тому +73

    ''a buff golden retriever that doubles as the love of life'' aint that the truth

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +12

      She's perfect and literally hot

    • @spacecowboy5486
      @spacecowboy5486 2 дні тому +6

      How can men be gay and women straight when Karlach exists?

    • @Hekk.
      @Hekk. 2 дні тому

      @@spacecowboy5486 She's too hype for my taste ._.

    • @benl2140
      @benl2140 2 дні тому +1

      "Vanilla flavour with a hero complex" is also the most brutally true description of Wyll I've ever heard.

    • @Rystefn
      @Rystefn 2 дні тому

      Perfect Karlach description is perfect

  • @henriknobinder7395
    @henriknobinder7395 3 дні тому +67

    Honestly, people who truly do love a game are usually the people who have the most valid and thought out complaints about those games. Playing it for hundreds of hours will make all the flaws really apparent after all.

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +5

      True enough!

    • @johnbendheim8163
      @johnbendheim8163 2 дні тому +2

      I think that's true about many things, familiarity breeds contempt as they say. It's quite a compliment for a game I think that hundreds of hours in a game can still be compelling enough for criticisms to come across even as nitpicks.

    • @Rystefn
      @Rystefn 2 дні тому

      @@johnbendheim8163 That's not what "familiarity breeds contempt" means.

  • @giovanedamaso3043
    @giovanedamaso3043 3 дні тому +35

    Don't you dare disappear, love your game/fantasy analysis!

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +14

      Can't get rid of me, I'm like very determined mold

  • @nemo5336
    @nemo5336 3 дні тому +40

    In early access; Wyll originally had his eye taken out by the goblin, Spike, and made his pact with Mizora after that. And his quest was to rescue Mizora from start Act 1, they were together when they got abducted by the mindflayers. And in order to find out where they took her, Spike makes Wyll torture the prisoner. But apparently people complained, so they rewrote to the Wyll we have today.
    Who by the way, according to this post i read, only has about 6 hours of stuff vs Astarian who has about 12 hours vs the rest of the origin characters have about 8 hours. I am going off memory with that, but the person had added up all the content each of the origin characters get as party members, and Wyll got the least, while Astarian is the favourite.
    And no, despite being able to find out about the missing gur children in act 1 (yes, you can find out about them in act 1, as well as, astarian's role), none of that extra content Astarian gets, involved confronting him about this fact when you go and tell him about the monster hunter. It bothers me and I wanted complain.
    Edit; I do like Astarian. He's a great character. I just also think his favouritism is an issue when it comes to the game.

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +9

      Wyll really didn't get enough love, maybe a future patch will give him a little something more.

    • @nemo5336
      @nemo5336 3 дні тому +6

      @@ProperBird I believe, they did mentioned adding more romance greetings for Wyll in the next patch. I also hope that means they fix his act 3 romance scene.
      I just did a Wyll romance playthrough, and there is no in camp dialouge before it so basically no set up, and while the cutscene itself is sweet it, the way it ends feels like it should be a long rest, but it isnt, and it just throws you out of the moment.
      That said, as someone who has romanced all of the men since the kissing patch shipped, they did give him a leg up with that. Astarian only has two if you didnt ascend him, and they are kinda basic. I have no comment on the ladies yet. I have only done Karlach and Shadowheart, and both were pre-kissing patch.

    • @RazielTheUnborn
      @RazielTheUnborn 3 дні тому +5

      People didn't complain about the story Wyll had in Early Access in the way your post describes it or implies. He was just called straight vanilla boring and that his willingness to torture the adventurerer over Mizora made no sense if he is supposed to be their Blade of Frontiers.

    • @TucoBenedicto
      @TucoBenedicto 3 дні тому +1

      It's not really that "people complained" about anything specific (people complained about basically everything companion-related in EA, so that would mean very little).
      They changed the character because (by their own words) they decided he wasn't conveying the type of stor y/character arc they wanted.
      Personally I wasn't his biggest fan before, but I like the revised version even less. Also, I fucking hate his stupid horns from an aesthetic standpoint, which makes him often the first to end benched (I basically stroll around with Wyll only when I know I'm going for some part of his personal quest).

    • @TucoBenedicto
      @TucoBenedicto 3 дні тому +3

      @@RazielTheUnborn Yeah, it was especially stupid when the alternative was simply to beat the crap out of Spike, anyway.
      Not exactly the hardest moral dilemma.

  • @Sp33ddialz
    @Sp33ddialz 3 дні тому +59

    Yeah, Wyll suffers from a pretty last minute total rewrite that complete changes his character & motivations. He's almost played better as an origin character instead of a party member.

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +3

      I definitely intend to play through every single origin character's story too!

    • @crptpyr
      @crptpyr 3 дні тому +9

      Yeah, I haven't played his origin yet but he's so tied into the main storyline and has such strong protagonist energy that I feel that he's a really natural fit to play as for an origin run

    • @NotJustABarista
      @NotJustABarista 2 дні тому +5

      I started a Tav rogue for my first playthrough and wasn’t vibing with it in the first few hours. Restarted the game as Origin Wyll and loved it (and him). His “lack of story” really makes him an ideal main character since he does tie into the main story so well, like others have said.

    • @carolinanuccialcala9600
      @carolinanuccialcala9600 2 дні тому +2

      @@crptpyrhe is both the most main character character and the companion with the LEAST amount of content. Absolutely criminal

    • @skandre7776
      @skandre7776 День тому +1

      Its not the rewrite particularly, you can have superhero in the story that works perfecty well and Wyll is not bad as one, its just that the story is not fleshed out. The issue is that they had to heavily scale down the game (act2 and3 especially; Upper City; House of Wonders, more political power plays including Mizora and Cazador, also full Avernus map not only Raphael's house, more Vlaakith stuff etc).
      Actually Karlach had been last in development and had the most changes and rewrites, her original questline included some kind of engine fix with Dammon or Gondians, but for that you needed Upper City's House of Wonders. Since her questline had been cut in half then shoehorned into a tragedy and Wyll's also had been underdeveloped (while other companions had devs priority), their stories got interconnected under time pressure. It was a risky move but it makes for poignant story; meeting Karlach that changes Wyll's life one way or another then their growing bond in the end is enough to convince Karlach to return together to Avernus and stay alive. It's a great story it's just not fleshed out as other 4 Origin companions.

  • @kaldo2113
    @kaldo2113 3 дні тому +19

    Name a more memorable duo than Larian and disappointing final acts

    • @alexyo2440
      @alexyo2440 2 дні тому +7

      Taking the "it's about the journey not the destination" quote literally

  • @Maradiaga23
    @Maradiaga23 3 дні тому +13

    I really enjoyed act 3, mostly because I was really invested in my companions and loved getting to complete their story lines

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +4

      Astarion's questline was a banger honestly.

  • @Jveator
    @Jveator 3 дні тому +20

  • @IndustrialBonecraft
    @IndustrialBonecraft 3 дні тому +14

    The only reason to visit the circus is to meet the absolute gigachad of the entire game: Popper. I don't know why he isn't the main character, to be honest. I guess it'd just be too easy. You'd just rock up to the elder brain, offer it a treato, the brain refuses so Popper just casually one-shots it and then everyone gets a treato.
    I really liked Baldur's Gate's scale - I'm extremely tired of game cities just being 'a hub location with some vendors and a pub, where you get the quests and then fuck off back into the fields' - but for a bunch of Act III I wasn't actually sure what the main quest was. Squidward shows up to yammer at you about tadpoles (again) and then seems to want to shag? I like that the character stories all wrap up in act 3, it's cool, and how some of them are tied into the main plot - Lae'zel's most notably - there's a huge sense that you're making some significant decisions. But they're also huge bits of content that require a whole bunch of time and effort to figure out. I was just doing things that seemed to be related to other things - you just start weedwhacking in order to figure out where the actual path is. After 150 hours, I just wanted to finish the fucking thing and it seemed like there was another 50+ hours to go. It gets exhausting.

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +2

      Ending the game by getting a treato sounds perfect and I need a mod for it right this minute.

  • @chrishowland8857
    @chrishowland8857 3 дні тому +27

    Koalas also have smooth brains preventing them from developing high cognitive functions, like spatial awareness or object recognition, that many other similar animals have. For example: a koala cannot discerns eucalyptus leaves, its primary food source, unless it is on a tree branch. Meaning if you took a pile of eucalyptus leaves and gave it to the koala and it had no other food sources it would literally starve to death despite having a pile of its favourite food.

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +5

      Relatable little smoothbrained bears.

    • @realdaggerman105
      @realdaggerman105 3 дні тому +6

      I hate this copypasta. It hurts the opinion people have of koalas, when an animals right to survive isn’t about traits we think are good or bad.

  • @Moricant
    @Moricant 3 дні тому +19

    The broken or otherwise unrewarding quests in act 3 was probably my main complaint. In particular was one that you didn’t get due to an act 1 decision, but that should have rewarded me with a portrait of my character. Instead I ended up with a portrait of Minsc, and while I am a fervent supporter of his “swords for everyone” philosophy, my half-elf bard has the edge aesthetically speaking and in any case Minsc spent the entire time at camp.

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +4

      Was Boo included at least?

    • @Moricant
      @Moricant 3 дні тому

      @@ProperBird Sadly not, it was a travesty all round.

  • @icesave1
    @icesave1 3 дні тому +8

    ''she does not step on you'' i mean, she does wises you to die, that half way there

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +1

      It's not the same thing there weren't any heels involved

  • @andybodle7560
    @andybodle7560 23 години тому +3

    Orin and (to a lesser extent) Gortash have a lot more connection to Tav if you play as Dark Urge, which I suspect was how the game was originally designed to be played, but they made normal Tavs an option because they knew a lot of people wouldn't enjoy the gory, evil route.

  • @Robertson_SO
    @Robertson_SO 3 дні тому +7

    For statistics: I didn't read the thumbnail, but because I think I need glasses
    I liked to watch the playthrough-we-don't-talk-about-act-2. Even with the amount of bugs and issues you faced during the game, it was a complementary experience to mine.
    Let's see if the durge playthrough will have less howevers

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому

      I did make the text remarkably small, I was just very curious to see if anyone would try. 😂

  • @davidricketts5280
    @davidricketts5280 3 дні тому +4

    You are really good at weaving together these stories. and your one liner explanations of things... overactive pizza oven, undead wanting working conditions... lol never lose that flair & flourish you have. also appreciate the badger. very nice.

  • @Kevin3826
    @Kevin3826 3 дні тому +14

    I personally like Wyll. He's the guy that puts all his problems on hold to help out others, and is one of the less "quirky" party members.

    • @channel45853
      @channel45853 3 дні тому +6

      yeah, it's good to have some more normal and likable characters in the case when you are first surrounded by a holes like Shadowheart, Astarion, and Laezel

  • @juan-yi2rb
    @juan-yi2rb 3 дні тому +8

    I did know koalas have very similar thumbprints but its always nice to hear again.

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +4

      Apparently they can even contaminate crime scenes it's so close, it's mind boggling!

  • @videogamemovies7398
    @videogamemovies7398 3 дні тому +11

    The issue with Act 3 (and partly Act 2) is that the game would have needed another year of polishing. Obviously, that wasn't an option because at one point Larian had to make money with it. However, to be fair, Act 3 is like any other game out there with tons of completely irrelevant and confusing side-quests that we shouldn't be bothering with given the urgency of the overall (main) situation. The problem is that, in Act 1, BG3 has shown that it can do better than the other standard RPGs out there. So Act 3 comes a bit as a cold shower.

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +5

      Act 3 definitely wasn't playtested as thoroughly as Act 1 so I'm sure that didn't help but man it does show.

  • @Falcons8455
    @Falcons8455 3 дні тому +8

    Act 1 & 2 I was smiling the entire time and constantly saying this is gonna be best game i ever played. But when Act 3 came it was such a disappointment that it soured me on the game entirely.

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +5

      I'm sorry it ruined the whole game for you. I've been replaying Act 1 a whole lot and honestly that's a great experience in itself!

  • @alsaiduq4363
    @alsaiduq4363 3 дні тому +8

    I beat BG3 recently and Act 3 issue is how fast you get to Level 12 and how fast you get the best gear for each class.
    By the start of the lower city you get to 12 and no soon later you get to Raphael's place to get insane gear. Then all non companion quests become kinda pointless. Unless you really care about being a complenist or care to close some side characters arc, act 3 can be insanely short yet so big.
    Also Gortash, Karlach and Wyll suffer from have very little time to shine. Despite act3 being so big..

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +6

      I honestly wouldn't have minded if Act 3 revolved solely around the companions and the fresh big enemies and nothing else.

    • @mr_jyggalag
      @mr_jyggalag 6 годин тому

      To be fair, I think the number of quests in Act 3 is a safe option for players to level up their characters. Remember, you can go to Act 2 through Mountain Pass (and even by completely ignoring creshe!) or Underdark without visiting them both, so you could arrive at Act 3 underleveled and barely get 12 level after obtaining one of the Netherstones.

  • @Tzephtan
    @Tzephtan 3 дні тому +3

    Your humour is magnificent. I love your honest analysis.

  • @johnbendheim8163
    @johnbendheim8163 2 дні тому +4

    Totally agree with this video and I say that as someone who's played this game for well over a thousand hours and who's favorite act is act 3. I love the act for the finality of the long experience that is this giant game, one that I think blesses us the ability to play with up to three friends. I've bought the game for almost half a dozen friends at this point just to show them the game through multiplayer. While I love act 3, it is also the most flawed and bloated part of a videogame in comparison to the rest of the game I think I've ever seen in a major AAA game release. The point you brought up about this not being an MMO was very cogent and act 3 definitely feels to this day unfinished in many ways. As a videogame however, I think the gameplay encounters in act 3 are some of the most fun and challenging in the game, which is why I tend to forgive things like Wyll being so underdeveloped and coming across as an afterthought in act 3.

  • @dragonborndude7718
    @dragonborndude7718 21 годину тому +1

    i have done 3 playthroughs and i have never seen or gotten the Wavemother quest because the game makes you feel like if you don't go there immediately the duke will die. And thats also weird you go to speak to gortash and the duke is next to him but as soon as you leave the room the duke is in the prison

  • @Velral
    @Velral 3 дні тому +4

    Thumbnail read, commenting for helping out with the algorithm.
    Great video as always! Thank you! :)

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +3

      A fellow thumbnail reader!

  • @charles_the_elder
    @charles_the_elder 3 дні тому +3

    Far and away the funniest review of BG3. What's even better is that it's a funny review that hits the nail on the head. I loved listening to your telling of the searching for a "vet." I've been following your Twitch channel for more than 3.5 years. If I wasn't already following, this video would have made me want to. Wonderful video.

  • @lukeluke333lukeluke
    @lukeluke333lukeluke 2 дні тому +1

    Love BG3 and Act 3 my favorite part of the game. I also got lost and overwhelmed and remember just standing there and saying "Where do I start? What do I do?" I just started exploring and had so much fun. First two acts set the stage and act 3 the grand finale.
    I do agree there issues from a story stand point in act 3 but it never soured my enjoyment of the game.
    Anyways. Great video and points. Love your sense of humor and always look forward to a new video.

  • @adamnorlen8532
    @adamnorlen8532 2 дні тому +1

    Holy shit. I thought I recognized the channel name, then came the realization that I used to watch your The Witcher 3 content 8 YEARS AGO… absolutely wild

  • @darkfoxx117
    @darkfoxx117 День тому +1

    I’ve played through acts 1 and 2 8 different times. ACT 3 twice. Says a lot.

  • @grymmoire
    @grymmoire 2 дні тому +1

    I feel like I’m in the minority, but I loved the chaotic mess of Act 3. Act 1 and 2 had pretty clear linear paths (granted you could easily get sidetracked) but Act 3 just opened up this whole world, busy with interesting people to talk to and tons of hidden nooks to explore. I loved getting lost in all of it, and I had only one bug that made me reload a save. Although, I did play the dark urge on my first playthrough and the connections to the main story line (particularly to Gortash and Orin) might have kept my character a little more grounded in the story context. My main complaint about the game is that no matter which character you select (Tav, Durge, Origin) you have to start the same way every single time. I wish there was some variety in how the tutorial/starting scenes played out that was based on the character or your background or something.

  • @Lowshii
    @Lowshii 2 дні тому

    « You gotta have a light source at all times » *proceeds to show Karlach on screen*

  • @Doople
    @Doople 2 дні тому +3

    Tbh i think every Larian game I've played has an undercooked Act 3, at least compared to the rest of the game. Games like Wasteland 2 fair better in mind because of the open world design it has and being able to access most quests in whatever order. Id argue BG3 isnt open world even if there is a lot of freedom in each acts' area.

  • @aphrodocta
    @aphrodocta 2 дні тому +1

    My issue with act 3 was it felt like I didn’t have choice In the ending of the game and I couldn’t fix Karlach even tho It gave plenty of hints the steel watch and upper baldur gate was the key to fixing her.

  • @ViolentEuthymia
    @ViolentEuthymia 2 дні тому +1

    I love your channel and I never finished act 3, I just got choice paralysis and never moved forward haha. I'll finish it one day. I don't know, just commenting for engagement because you deserve it.

  • @BabyKrogan
    @BabyKrogan 3 дні тому +1

    Act 1 definitely benefited from early access and player feedback

  • @BeautyIsJustAMask
    @BeautyIsJustAMask 3 дні тому +6

    As well as your very valid points my 2 main gripes with Act 3 were the entire Upper City being cut except for the run up to final battle. I think this caused way too much content to be crammed into Lower City. Also the boss battles with Gortash and Orin were massively underwhelming, both should have had an avatar of Bane and Bhaal phase like Myrkul.

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +2

      Orin had half an avatar and Gortash just grew a few sizes, embarrassing. 🥲

    • @BeautyIsJustAMask
      @BeautyIsJustAMask 3 дні тому +2

      @@ProperBird they had to patch in the ability to "speak with the dead" on Gortash just so we could finally hear Bane's voice, like how did this happen 😓

  • @mitzrael2k6
    @mitzrael2k6 3 дні тому +2

    Yes, I do enjoy your unhinged rants about the things you love the most. How could you tell?

  • @kowaikokoro
    @kowaikokoro 2 дні тому +1

    must be one of those rare act 3 is the best and its not close people. best encounters ✅best exploration ✅ best side quests and the best gear ✅ sure at max level the game becomes bordeline childsplay and especially easy with fireworks to even oneshot the endboss on honour mode or how big and massive filled to the brim with content the act is....

  • @lucidx88
    @lucidx88 3 дні тому +1

    YOOO! I miss and love your videos!

  • @andyenglish4303
    @andyenglish4303 2 дні тому

    Odd, Act 3 is my favorite act. The performance doesn't always hold up andit's definitely unfinished but I love it specifically because there is so much to do.

  • @fylimar
    @fylimar 2 дні тому +1

    I like Wyll, I really do, but I agree with you. This might be unpopular, but maybe they should have left Halsin as an ally and focus more on Wylls story. There was a promise, that he gets more content and decisionmaking in patch 7, so there is hope. And the three chosen could have been really interesting, but Orin and Gortash don't get enough time. Gortash, the mind behind the Absolute plot, even can be bypassed completely, if you attack teh steelwatch factory before going to his coronation. I'm a big BG3 fan and love a lot about this game, but I wish, some of the storylines had gotten a bit more love. Like the Hearthflame sisters in the House of Hope: we never really find out, what happened, that overprotective Korrilla turned on her sister Hope. Those two are my personal pet peeves, because I like them and had wished to learn more about them.

  • @n.henzler50
    @n.henzler50 2 години тому

    If a druid wild shapes into a koala, will they have the same fingerprints?

  • @MrJeffharper47
    @MrJeffharper47 День тому

    Good writing. Good video. Hope you blow up!

  • @alessandrogarofalo9951
    @alessandrogarofalo9951 2 дні тому +1

    The villains problem can be solved playing as dark urge. Won't spoil, but DU clarify a lot of things

  • @jtplays7411
    @jtplays7411 3 дні тому

    Yay a new Jinzee video.

  • @shimmerback
    @shimmerback 3 дні тому

    This is one of your best videos and its not even close

  • @OhDearOhDear69
    @OhDearOhDear69 2 дні тому

    Omg I missed you so much @proper bird! I hope you are doing okay and that life is being good to you. Please continue to keep us company when you can. Big love from the uk ❤️❤️❤️

  • @Grim_death144
    @Grim_death144 День тому +1

    Love the thumbnail 😂

  • @thepurge7964
    @thepurge7964 13 годин тому

    It seems like act 3 has a lot more going on that connects back to you when you play as The Dark Urge; the relationships with Gortash and Orin are much more personal, and meeting Gortash without Karlach (evil playthroughs won't usually have her) probably feels profoundly different.

  • @cmmosher8035
    @cmmosher8035 2 дні тому

    Best way of making wyll interesting... Play as Wyll !!! That way him being a blank slate just makes sense.
    Also romancing Karlach feels right.

  • @kraxmel
    @kraxmel 2 дні тому

    LOL, just stumbled upon your channel. Love your wit! Didn't know that about koalas. I'm good on bread, but I do need milk (ya, I like milk, some people milk is bad/evil/gross, but I like it).
    But, good video! I'm in act 3 for my 4th time and I gotta agree. Sometimes it feels like a slog, but I really, really, REALLY love this game... really... I have over 1000 hours in it! :)
    I can't wait till they fix Minthara's reactionary dialogs so I can finish my "evil" playthrough (hey Minthara, Orin kidnapped Gale, I know you don't think highly of wizards, but c'mon, you gotta have something to say about that... you have opinions on everything/everyone else). And then I can start my dark urge playthrough (probably wait till patch 7 for that). Oh, and one more "good" playthrough as maybe a group of bards or something. :)

  • @Synthia17
    @Synthia17 3 дні тому +1

    I just hit 1k hours and I agree with pretty much everything you said, I usually start struggling in act3, I abandoned around 2 playthroughs as soon as I hit it because of the issues you mentioned. I love the fights there but getting to them can be really painful.
    Don't worry about criticizing this beloved game, we do it cause we care :)
    And good luck with the durge, without spoiling anything, it really feels like that's the canon Tav.

  • @katiegrace6416
    @katiegrace6416 День тому

    Haven't finished yet - but you posting this video does make me wonder if someone has created a Iorveth main character ...😂😍

  • @torlight
    @torlight 2 дні тому +1

    While it's not an excuse, by any means, I half wonder how much of the... Act 3-ness of Act 3 was a D&D-ism. By that I mean imagine doing what's possible to do in Baldur's Gate in actual tabletop; the DM will literally never be able to make every house or every quest interesting, and some of those quests will be unconnected or weird (largely because the DM had to make something up on the fly and got carried away, maybe; no I've never ever done that, nobody can prove anything).
    ALL THAT SAID, I don't disagree with you, and it's a video game -not- D&D so the same excuses don't hold the same weight, but ...in a strange way, as a forever DM, I kind of appreciate that? Is that weird? Maybe. Anyway, wonderful vid as ever, excellent points, keep 'em comin'!

  • @snigeling
    @snigeling День тому

    Great video, thanks for Badger

  • @lenaburch6566
    @lenaburch6566 3 дні тому +1

    Thank you for reminding me I need to get bread at the store and start a new BG3 save to abandon after act 2!

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  2 дні тому

      It's good to always have some bread in the house, you know?

  • @wolfsdrache2638
    @wolfsdrache2638 2 дні тому

    I had pretty similar problems with act 3. The most problematic in feeling unfinished was the toy quest for me, since for a game that normally has like four different ways to end quests and a lot of them are dialogue based this one just confused be for like half an hour. I had to look up multiple guides and Reddit posts online to make sure I wasn’t missing anything and there really just was nothing one could do. Also the feeling of being a lot got worse for me because so many quests send you from location to location to location. It made the side quests feel bloated to me espacially compared to Astarions and Shadowhearts arc conclusions. I don’t think those two quests needed to be longer since they were great on their own but it kinda lessened their impact being the short breaks between the endless artist quest and saving the future cult victims.
    In my first run I played like the perfect hero paladin who tried to save everyone and make everyone happy so I did all the quests and I’m happy I did for that run, but I’m just looking forward to cutting a lot of those quests short.

  • @robertsyrett1992
    @robertsyrett1992 2 дні тому

    Not even going to mention the huge army of absolutists that leave from moonrise at the end of act 2 and never are seen in the game ever again?

  • @daedalusdreamjournal5925
    @daedalusdreamjournal5925 3 дні тому +2

    Welcome back ! :)

  • @ewabrzakaa6395
    @ewabrzakaa6395 2 дні тому

    I discovered that if dragging my feet (i think it was 2 long rests) after telling Aldrin that Nightsong is a person, and not telling Nightsong about Lorokan's plan, Aldrin's party rolls into the camp at night. Andd then, at least for me, both Minsc and Karlah got stuck in the night dialogue setting, so it was impossible to talk to them properly (both just telling me that we should rest) and without option to ask them join the party.
    I'm mostly frustrated by Balduran thing. They fucked up Moonrise Towers timeline, on top of sheer size of middle finger to existing setting they pulled with "Balduran" (and Zenith presence in hireling section. If you *refer* to presence of someone from the first Baldur's Gate, who is, according to current DnD is still alive... but person won't appear? maybe better to NOT)

  • @junpeidaman
    @junpeidaman 2 дні тому

    Small correction: we don't know if the mind flayer in the first cutscene is The Emperor, they have a buncha similarities design wise, but also some differences, and the timeline gets (even more) wacky if they end up being the same.
    About Orin and Gortash, I played BG3 last may for the first time (twice already with the same character) and immediately chose to make a durge bcuz I knew they have some cool stuff on their backstory (and also I'll always choose the non-human looking species), and that made me care about Orin and Gortash (especially Orin for obvs reasons) a lot. It's a shame that if you don't play as one, they feel so meh in comparison.
    And yeah, apparently Act 3 would've have the Upper City but it was scrapped, it was were Cazador's Palace would've supposed to be, and I can also say as someone who's Very Normal about The Emperor, a bunch of stuff about it, Stelmane and The Knights of the Shield seem unfinished/underdeveloped and if I had to guess it would also take place in the Upper City. The game is amazing, I've been brainrotting about it ever since but somehow some stuff still could've been cooked a bit further, and it makes me sad that Larian won't do any big extra content of it :(

  • @aethewulf4787
    @aethewulf4787 3 дні тому +2

    Im not gonna like as Rouge i enjoyed breaking in houses and for sure not stealing anything!

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +3

      Definitely just admiring the decor!

  • @joshuahensley9395
    @joshuahensley9395 3 дні тому +7

    It was super cool to recognize you in the recent skywind trailer

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +4

      I was honestly very excited they put me in, I didn't know they had!

  • @elidasilva5558
    @elidasilva5558 3 дні тому +2

    I'm not gonna watch because of spoilers but I love ya and I love your videos. I'll come back when I'm done

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому

      Enjoy the game when you play!

  • @ToussaintZephyrus
    @ToussaintZephyrus 3 дні тому

    You’re the reason I got into more fantasy games because of your Witcher lore series. Baldur’s Gate 3 has been one of my favorite game since Witcher 3. Keep making these amazing videos! ❤

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +1

      I'm really glad to hear that!

  • @winterburden
    @winterburden 2 дні тому

    thanks for the neat koala tips, bird channel!

  • @scullyy
    @scullyy 2 дні тому +1

    I hate city settings in RPGs. Act 3 never stood a chance.

  • @jazzoj5
    @jazzoj5 2 дні тому

    17:36 the problem with Wyll is that they re-wrote the entire character after fans who played early access complained he wasn't likeable enough. He was a very flawed but multi-faceted character, but Larian re-wrote him to be a generic good guy. I love the fact they listen to fan feedback, but sometimes I feel you need to stick to your creative vision and trust people will appreciate it when they experience the finished article (I understand this is an incredibly hard tightrope to walk). Wyll may not have been likeable (to some people), but the original version of Wyll was a much more interesting, complex and charismatic character.

  • @miroconev9096
    @miroconev9096 3 дні тому +2

    The Drak Urge have a history with Gortash and Orin so there will be a difference in your playthrough in act 3

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +1

      I hope it adds a good bit of story!

    • @crptpyr
      @crptpyr 3 дні тому +1

      ​@@ProperBirdIt does a really good job at actually tying your character into the storyline, as opposed to Tav who obviously has only very generic and tenuous ties to the world so you can give them whatever backstory you feel like

    • @miroconev9096
      @miroconev9096 3 дні тому

      ​@@ProperBirdFully evil Dark Urge is a ...interesting experience

  • @justanothermanic1087
    @justanothermanic1087 3 дні тому

    Take THAT, algorithm! Love ur videos sooooo much ❤

  • @GooseEnjoyer
    @GooseEnjoyer 2 дні тому

    To be fair, you don't need any skill checks for Shadowheart abandoning shar either, if she has high approval. Not sure if it's the same without approval.

  • @ntolman
    @ntolman 3 дні тому +5

    FYI you can save the Duke without taking the deal if you know where the sub is. However, Mizora will try to fuck you over by summoning spiders for you to fight. You can also get Mizora to cancel her deal with Wyll in Act 2 if you free her and persuade her to end the deal.

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому

      I saved the dad without taking the deal in my first playthrough, I didn't get the Act 2 convince option though.

    • @ntolman
      @ntolman 3 дні тому +1

      @@ProperBird Mizora at some point in Act 2 asks you to save someone in the area before you fight Ketheric for the second time. She doesn't reveal she wants you to save her. You find her in a pod and can extort her into canceling the deal.

  • @oneofnone7947
    @oneofnone7947 3 дні тому +1

    I had so many bugs in my first playthough including the save glitche thankfully i was able to eventually beat it as a golden dragonborn paladin

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +1

      Oh God a save glitch? That sounds terrifying.

    • @oneofnone7947
      @oneofnone7947 3 дні тому

      @@ProperBird it was saves stop registering in act 3 so I had to give up my dragon borne druid run and became a paladin thankfully it was fixed before I reached act3 again and beat the game the second one I was a wood elf druid who uncolverd the shadow druids plot in the Grove and got a unique reward for being a druid I also wone Orpheus over by sacrificing myself to gain the power to fight the brain I also had alot of friends armored owlbear and others now to be a gith monk with a few levels in rouge to become a punching god

  • @AzureChild
    @AzureChild 14 годин тому

    I scrolled back up just to read the thumbnail

  • @chriswolfe351
    @chriswolfe351 14 годин тому

    I seem to have managed to avoid all of the worst problems related to Wyll by picking him as my character.

  • @chika4275
    @chika4275 3 дні тому +2

    Act 3 is incomplete due to the release of Starfield! They really should have let the game sit in the oven instead of trying to release it ahead of Starfield. Data miners found missing quests for Karlach, wyll and Minthara in the upper city as well as a map of Avernus. Swen openly said that the developers ran out of time when trying to make Jaheira romanceable. In reality, Balders Gate 3 needed to be released in December 2023 not August. Those 4 months could of helped Act 3 be what it needed to be.

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому

      That's honestly a pity. But I do understand that they have to cut the cord at some point, especially if they don't know whether it's going to be a hit or not.

    • @_holy__ghost
      @_holy__ghost 2 дні тому +2

      that is such an incredible misrepresentation of the issue. i hope you were being facetious when you said starfield is *literally* to blame for act 3 being bad because that is simply not the case. i believe that larian running out of time is not the problem, it is a symptom. every issue with act 3 comes down to their poor decision making and lack of focus. WHY did they even try making jaheira romancable? shes a borderline elderly widow and its not like the game is lacking in romancable characters. WHY make an entire map of avernus? youve already had to abandon the upper city, a far more important area. WHY stuff the lower city with unrelated sidequests? you havent even fleshed out 2 main companions and the literal actual final bosses.
      larian has a pattern of trying to fit too many things into the game. the mark of a good artist is knowing when to stop. a game (or any piece of art) is NEVER going to be perfect and as an artist you need to know when enough is enough. larian is an amazing, creative studio, but they do not know when to stop. they completely lost the plot in act 3 and its nobody's fault but their own

    • @mr_jyggalag
      @mr_jyggalag 6 годин тому

      Well, as far as I am aware, I heard people say that there is cut content for Karlach, Wyll, and Upper City, but for some strange and bizarre reason, no one provided what those datamines found. No dialogue, no voicelines, no info at all. I wonder why...

  • @moontomes
    @moontomes 3 дні тому +1

    wow. i can't believe the video person didn't talk about the single most important character in act 3. a little girl that can become a necromancer in the cemetery. 🤓being upset the attic vampire story wasn't complete? pssssssh couldn't be me *hides tears*

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +2

      We will simply write fanfiction about the attic vampire and the necromancer girl having a really good day.

  • @svetakirko8427
    @svetakirko8427 2 дні тому

    I WAS UPSET ABOUT BELL TOO!!

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  2 дні тому

      Bell deserved more than it got

  • @alexmashkin863
    @alexmashkin863 2 дні тому

    Koalas, great... Now you know I read your thumbnail

  • @kmoustakas
    @kmoustakas День тому

    I really believe Wyll's story is better suited to be played rather than have him as a companion. Same with Astarion really. Shadowheart, La'ezel and Karlach are better experienced as companions

  • @sebastianevangelista4921
    @sebastianevangelista4921 3 дні тому +2

    Speaking of D&D related things, I've never personally played it but plan on getting the revised core rule books later this year and wanted to ask if you had any advice for a newbie like me.

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +2

      I'm honestly not a veteran myself but I can 100% recommend www.twitch.tv/theplaymatt ! He's a fantastic DM and always happy to help new players!

    • @sebastianevangelista4921
      @sebastianevangelista4921 3 дні тому

      @@ProperBird Thank you, Jinzee!

  • @aqualung2000
    @aqualung2000 2 дні тому

    I totally agree with you. Whenever I start a new playthrough and I get to Act 3 I always either take a break for a while or just end the playthrough right there.
    But, actually, I _like_ act 3. It's just too much, at that point in the game. In fact, I would advocate completely cutting act 2 and going straight from 1 to 3.

  • @MrMonoyo
    @MrMonoyo 3 дні тому

    Hi Jinzee, it's good to see you and listen to your commentary on Baldur's Gate 3; I thought it to be an excellent 5th Gen Video Game.

  • @ducky36F
    @ducky36F 3 дні тому

    I think Larian got a bit lost in sauce in act 3, has some of the great moments of the game in it but there is just so much of it 😂

  • @Saintbalor
    @Saintbalor 2 дні тому

    Yes... Yes I do.
    Also, cool Koala factoid

  • @DudokX
    @DudokX 15 годин тому

    First half of the game was so good and the 2nd act so epic at the end, that the 3rd act was kinda mildly disappointing, even though it was still better than many well acclaimed whole ass games in this genre. It was apparent that it was rushed and the devs were running into problems with the sheer number of possibilities that could happen (even though they still surprised me how much content there was for really niche situations that happen maybe to 1/30 or less number of people playing.) When I was playing through Gortash, story was totally unfinished and his corpse even lacked voice acting which is pretty crazy when so many minor npcs have unique speak with dead dialogue
    Freeing the Nightsong is still probably my favourite moment of the game with House of Hope fight right after that and End of act 2 fight after that. Nightsong scene made my tear up like finding Ciri scene in W3.

  • @rvfiasco
    @rvfiasco 3 дні тому +3

    Yea, I have brain worms too. I wanna watch this!! I haven't played it yet though!!

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +2

      My brain worms 🤝 your brain worms
      Thinking about Baldur's Gate 3

    • @rvfiasco
      @rvfiasco 3 дні тому +1

      @@ProperBird yaaassss, yaaass!! Squishy rpg goodness!! ❤️🌹🪷🏵️🪷🌹❤️

  • @DagwoodDogwoggle
    @DagwoodDogwoggle 2 дні тому

    Before I even watch this - yes. I've played into Chapter 3 three times. Never truly finished it. The first time I technically finished it, but it was so long that when I was climbing to the final battle and Gale said, "You don't have to do this - I still has nuke," I just said, "For the love of all, yes! End this game right now!" And then my end scene was all mucked up.

  • @bacomancer
    @bacomancer 3 дні тому +1

    Very much agree.. yuup :)

  • @skandre7776
    @skandre7776 День тому

    He certainly isn't fleshed out but i wouldn't say he's boring. Wyll's story in the game is about sacrifices and he's functionally more a Devotion Paladin than a Warlock. His class and role in the world are completely different things. Also if the game shots are from your first playthrough then u probably haven't seen the Wyll hero of the moment, his actual decision regarding the future: Blade or Duke has potential big consequence, but i won't spoil cause there's always another playthrough. As many choices in the game its all connected to Wither's question: What is the worth of single mortal life?

  • @skullwarrior13
    @skullwarrior13 2 дні тому

    Based take. PLaying Act 3 once or twice is a fun time but after that? You start to figure out all the quests you can skip with zero impact on the story or progression. It's to the point I just kill Gortash with that throw glitch when you meet him in Wyrm's Crossing so I can skip straight to the "Boss Rush to Orin" pipeline.

  • @aniruddhbhatkal1834
    @aniruddhbhatkal1834 2 дні тому

    I'm here for the koala facts!

  • @D3letedSoul
    @D3letedSoul 3 дні тому +1

    I missed your content. So much. But i'd rather have this over you being burnt out and unwell every week/month. Had a load of fun for 20 or so minutes. Thank you. Have a great day.

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому

      I'm doing much better after my extended break!

  • @corriban
    @corriban 3 дні тому +1

    Act 1 is amazing, no notes. Act 2 is alright, just a bit fractured. Act 3 is a complete overloaded mess and also the reason so many players don't finish the game. This is a pattern that was also present in older Larian games.

  • @mashak.5384
    @mashak.5384 2 дні тому

    The thumbnail brought me in

  • @luciusbrimstone9036
    @luciusbrimstone9036 2 дні тому

    Came for the thumbnail text, stayed for the video

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  2 дні тому +1

      I thank you and the koalas thank you.

  • @angeryboye
    @angeryboye День тому

    I actually did know about koala fingerprints, don't know from where i know it from but i did

  • @kennethiain
    @kennethiain 3 дні тому

    "Speaking of unnecessary things...[REDACTED, cause spoilers for this video]." YES I 100% AGREE WITH ALL OF THIS. Jinzee, I really enjoyed this video -- it was super funny, but super informative and well discussed as usual for you!

  • @AlHyckGaemsTAD
    @AlHyckGaemsTAD 3 дні тому

    Interesting fact about koalas. Neat video.

  • @GothaBillsAndDeath
    @GothaBillsAndDeath 3 дні тому +1

    I don't think it's necessarily people don't want to talk about its issues as other crpg enthusiasts have gone over its shortcomings. I think the majority more or less accept the shortcomings because peers within the crpg genre have always been like this. Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous had a nauseating Act 4 where the levels and platforms would shift based on where your mouse cursor was, which sounds great in concept but in practice it made people sea-sick. That and a lot of bugs to the point where when the game was released, it didn't receive a Best RPG nomination because of the bugs in a year dominated by JRPGs. Pillars of Eternity 2 had extreme issues with the subversion from PoE1 and an ending boss fight that... well wasn't one. And it had a lot of bugs. Fallout New Vegas, one of the crowning achievements of modern Fallout, with far less builds and systems to micromanage, can't stop crashing after 30minutes to an hour of playtime without mods.
    It's one of the reasons CD Projekt Red opted for writing characters that were already their own person by the start of the game. V & Geralt have far less to micromanage by comparison. No killing essential NPCs during their cinematics, extreme lack of background input into dialogue options, ARPG builds were more restricted to the genre, etc. Critics argued that this made subsequent playthroughs more boring in that regard (repeating unskippable segments like Johnny Silverhand's interlude), but the more linear story was allowed to flourish and execute on the crux of the story rather than have to make 1000 permutations off earlier player choices like in true crpgs like BG3.
    The part where you mentioned "why should I playthrough the game again" is the mentality crpgs have over other narrative rpgs like Witcher 3 or Cyberpunk 2077. Replayability vs. solid single playthrough experience.

    • @ProperBird
      @ProperBird  3 дні тому +1

      I definitely did not say "why should I play through the game again", I'm very much looking forward to another replay. My point was specifically about the bad guys only being (possibly, because I haven't played it yet) as interesting as they should/could be on a Durge playthrough.

    • @GothaBillsAndDeath
      @GothaBillsAndDeath 3 дні тому +1

      @@ProperBird Didn't get that impression on my first playthrough, but that was because I purposefully chose an evil protagonist that preferred scheming and diplomacy. I viewed the Bhaalists, Gortash, Vampires, and the Sharrans as factions you could ally with to bring to the final fight. Much like F:NV with the Boomers, Brotherhood of Steel, Great Khans, etc. If you really wanted to get pedantic, your companions were all involved with the major badguy factions in some way and were written to gently nod you to their direction. Two companions allowed you to gain direct access to the faction's support: Shadowheart could be betrayed to gain Sharran support & Ascended Astarion could rule the vampires. I wasn't Durge so I never really found out that playthrough's specific dialogue options with Gortash and the Cult of Bhaal.

    • @_holy__ghost
      @_holy__ghost 2 дні тому

      ​@@GothaBillsAndDeaththe issue is that you can easily beat the final boss even without recruiting anyone which makes betraying astarion and shadowheart an absolute numbskull move in every way except narrative. if they really wanted the factions to be relevant in act 3 they shouldve done it in the same way dragon age: origins did it. the game literally doesnt let you progress if you havent recruited the factions you need.