Can you BEAT Fathis Aren in a Race in Oblivion?
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Im not gonna lie it would have been the funniest bit ever if at the very end the Grey Fox takes the cowl off and its Amusei. You just dont perceive him as an argonian with the mask on because the Grey Fox isnt argonian
considering the grey fox has existed for over 300 years, they might have been one argonian.
@@Reemus4 They didn't mean there couldn't have been an argonian, but when you where the mask no one perceives you as one
i think
Yes that is what i mean is that you arent perceived as as argonian. You wear the cowl you are the Grey Fox and you take the form of an Imperial to other people, so it would seem. Take it off and its just "Ohh where did you come from" cause the cowls magic is that strong.
@@harleysmith6333 It makes sense to me, I feel like if I ever put more thought into other races using it, it would be like this
I feel that the cowl would have to change how people perceive the Grey Fox to that level. If the Grey Fox has existed for over 300 years thats a nice generational list and a line of people. Id bet money if one of them looked like an argonian or a khajiti at any point someone would have noticed and said the Grey Fox is one. If a khajiti were ever publicly known to be the Grey Fox i feel at least some of them would celebrate it in their culture because they arent afraid of being called thieves especially not if they were good at it. If the Grey Fox didnt consistently look like the same person to outside sources then it wouldnt be possible for people to identify him immediately guard or not. Which goes to a deeper dive that Nocturnal is much more powerful than people give her credit because of her two major daedric artifacts one can open any door or boundary real or metaphysical and the other is a mask of true polymporph that needed an Elder Scroll and then some to get off one mans face. How to become a walking scp cognito hazard in two simple steps; Put on mask and walk outside to watch your neighbors cause chaos because they immediately think you are Al Capone in the flesh and not having it.
As much as i played the shit out of Skyrim, i miss these multi layered quests.
Me too
“He believes himself victorious and holds the high-ground” is the in-universe explanation that his path-finding AI glitched 😆
The last four quests in Oblivions TG line are some of my favourite ever.
I simply love how much hidden depth there is to Oblivion
Really every elder scrolls has alot of depth besides skyrim. ESO is especially awesome if you love the lore
But there is so much to oblivion and the fact it's voice acted is even better. Morrowind had more to the lore. But all the reading makes the game tedious. Even though it's still my favorite tes game
You can also push Aren off the tower, gravity doesnt count for suspension!
My favorite memory of this quest is when Audens Avidius tracked me down in the wizard's grotto. I couldn't understand how I wasn't hidden when suddenly there was Audens swinging his dagger at me
🤣 he is encouragable
Incorrigible * dammit
@@DarkLOREDash eh close enough lol
12:30 I love that freaking response because for all we know the character only said the one word “Bravil”
10:30 or 12:20?
One of my favorite things about this quest line was seeing amusei back in the guild and doing well he went through alot
Wait.. the beggar says "blessings of mystara upon thee". As far as I know there's no god named Mystara in Elder Scrolls. What an odd easter egg.
You are correct; it seems to be a reference to classic D&D
That's an easter egg, a D&D reference
TES lore borrows a lot from Forgotten Realms. Talos, for example.
This is really cool to learn because I love D&D and the Elder Scrolls
@@kenny6920 I'd say, Talos is from IRL lore as well XD
"This arrow advances my plan to mlep..blep..."
Ah, classical Grey Fox XD
Thank you for your videos!
14:12 Why did you dislike your own video?
I just absolutely love these and the dialogue you add when speaking with these beloved characters 😊
your videos made me want to play oblivion again, and its a nice reprieve from bg3. and this is a nice way to start my day before going to uni classes
Said it many times before, but your voice is amazing. If you do read lines for audiobooks, send me links to what you have worked on.
That transition when you shot the scamp was really good
love sleeping to these videos i’m so happy ur uploading more
I'd say not to sleep on these videos, but he does have a good ASMR voice
4:37: If you excuse me, I don't have time for you!!! 😤
*Moments later: I can teach you conjuration! 😊I'm a wizard at bravil!!!!
Oblivion NPCS in a nutshell 😂
I love how you disliked your own videos and see it when you're talking about them
Fathis on the video cover looked like Farwil with the biggest smug face ever. 😂
I love waking up to a dld upload, highlight of my day 😭💚
Hey cutie
back off harlot, he’s mine
I remember when I did this in my playthrough Fathis never turned hostile in the tower so I was able to just steal the arrowhead and dip
Wtf...
I played Oblivion for years but i never came across a Quest for a Giant slaughterfish 😳
23:07 💀💀💀
holy cow, just completing this normally is going to cost you 20 daedra hearts and 20 vampire dusts?! that's insane!
“I happen to see a familiar sounding argonian…”
You’re right, if only he didnt sound exactly the same as every male argonian in Cyrodil 😂
Boosting for the algorithm 🙌 Love your work, keep it up! 🌻🐝
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in my game i was too busy for carrying high value loot to sell while quest was active. after that i did it only to find that fathis aren weren't in his tower to pickpocket his keys to get fast way out of his tower.
later found his body, he died in close of bravil oblivion gate. so either AI pathfinder bugged or he got aggro by gate monsters.
is it wrong to say i use him as a guide
2:57 me: okay Corvus, what do you want to talk about?
This was good. And yes… super annoying quest 😂
Is he a sorcerer?
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wake up babe, new dark lore dash just dropped
Huuzahhh
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I wish I could live in his tower!!
14:02
do you dislike your own videos?
cant wait for more
Love this series
Thank u bro
22:18 get rekt
Always odd to me that this quest gives you Infamy. Well all the Thieves' Guild do. But you think about what you do there. You kill some evil Daedra Summoners and Necromancers, and a dangerous giant Slaughterfish. No one should (rightly) know you stole anything. Somehow everyone will treat you as though you're as evil for doing this as the blatant family eradication in the Dark Brotherhood. Always just weird.
You get +2 Infamy for doing this quest.
Which is actually less than Next of Kin.
So in the eyes of Oblivion's design butchering an entire family, including an upstanding city guard, is less evil than attacking a few crazed evil mages explicitly up to evil.
Just kind of funny because heck, you don't even really do anything all that "Bad" during the Thieves' Guild but you'll end up more Evil for eventually helping reunite long lost spouses and breaking curses and such... than you will for being a mass murdering religious cultist devoted to inflicting evil.
It helps to not think of Infamy as "evil points." You snuck into a tower of a renowned, very skilled Conjurer of the Mage's Guild and stole something from him. On top of that, he's (often) never seen again.
Sounds pretty intimidating to me, hence the infamy. Considering the "underhanded" tactics that the Assassin's Guild is thought to employ in their contracts, simple murder by their hands likely compares less as NPCs are going to assume the target was simply taken off-guard or otherwise tricked into a situation they couldn't survive rather than succumbing to a skilled opponent.
@@ForeverLaxx It's harder for me not to think of it as "evil points" per se, mostly because Knights of the Nine. And when you get any Infamy what so ever everyone starts talking about how they used to think you were heroic but now view you as vile scum. As well as getting rejected hardcore by the Divines themselves if you get 2 Infamy points or more.
As well since the Thieves' Guild stuff is (supposed to be) covert and unknown it's weird that you are personally pegged as responsible for it. Like you break into Arcane University to steal a staff just to punk out Captain Lex. No one is supposed to know you're there at all.
Which is why it's also harder, even though I know it's supposed to be, to view it as "Reputation" per se. Because acts no one should be aware of still ends up impacting it. Though acts you are witnessed for like getting Bounties does give you Infamy as well.
It always just comes off weird. Like this Divine Sanction rather than Reputation for me. Or the developers signposting what they think is moral or not (as they do in Fallout 3 with Karma).
Which is probably just my own hang up, I admit. Just kind of the weird way I suppose I see it working.
Maybe if they had a more "Faction Reputation" system? Like the whole faction got "Infamy" for your acts as a thief. Very Captain Lex style: "I don't know who did it, but it had to be the Grey Fox and his cronies!"... and then if people witnessed you publicly doing thief guild stuff (Fencing things in broad daylight or talking to messengers loudly saying they have a mission from the Grey Fox for you in the middle of Tiber Septim Plaza as they do). But that's also unreasonable nuance I know for a game that gutted various factions as is to fit on the Xbox Disc.
Just something a little less "The Gods have seen your actions and judged you for it" behavior wise where everyone just kind of reacts to things they shouldn't have known about. Like the Divines themselves marked you with some evil aura for deeds only they witnessed.
Also hard not to think of them as "Evil Points" when the only things that seemed to give them to me (in my playthroughs at least) was the Thieves' Guild, Dark Brotherhood, and basically rampant and public murder in the streets getting bounties as I kill guards due to the bad combat AI of allies going "I'm going to jump in front of your sword mid swing!" as they do (happens a lot when hidden Mythic Dawn agents try to jump me and such).
Not like I was getting Infamy Points for "harmless" stuff outside of the Thieves' Guild like disrespecting one of the poncy nobles in court.
@@hitomisalazar4073 It's a problem with Elder Scrolls in general. They want the game to react to player actions, even if those actions should be unknown. How does the guard know that the apple in your pocket is the exact apple that disappeared from a shop 8 days ago? Doesn't matter because now it's gone since you got caught trying to take someone's house key.
How does everyone suspect the guy that died in a dungeon with zero witnesses was done in by the player? Doesn't matter, because Bethesda doesn't think about things like this. Just as an NPC will tell you to go away when you walk up to them just to immediately tell you their name, life story, their schedule by the hour, and a full list of their fears (along with anyone else you ask them about), Bethesda has always had a major problem with immersion-breaking "immersion-boosting" interactions.
That's why I don't consider infamy to be "evil points" even if Bethesda will flop back and forth on whether they function that way or not.
@@ForeverLaxx Though funny bit on the "NPCs randomly dump info". Doing a lot of service industry work growing up, from checkers to wait staff and such... I recognize that people just dumping a but of Too Much Too Soon information to a stranger is VERY normal. Even if most people don't think it is. I can't even guess how many times in real life I've had that sort of "... I don't want to talk... anyway here's a really personal story" moments.
The Count of Bravil always made me wish there was a particular mod. Because as I recall one of the rumors you heard was that the Count used to be this big Jousting Champion and kind of wasted his time on Jousting Tournaments and such instead of good governance.
And I always just wanted a Jousting Mod based on that. I mean they mention it. It'd be neat I think. Another "life sim" kind of thing and maybe something locked behind earning a Knighthood (not like you can't get a few in Oblivion). Understandable that the devs didn't do it... but I always hoped a modder would. Or maybe they had and I just never found it.
That would be amazing! Get the Bravil arena back up but with horses