Jesus the Imagination: Interview with Margaret Barker
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- I recorded this interview on Sophia ("The Lady in the Temple") with renowned Bible scholar Margaret Barker in November 2020. It appears in print form in 'Jesus the Imagination, Vol. 5: The Divine Feminine.' You can find it here: angelicopress....
Cover art by Catrin Welz-Stein
Really appreciatethis conversation. Margaret’s work is ground breaking and looking forward to hear the dialogue here. Blessings in Christ.
Mt.12:42, Lk.11:31
The Queen of the South will rise up in the judgment of this generation
and will condemn it.
Margaret Barker! Awesome. Hopefully I can get her to stop by Grail Country sometime!
I really hope you're able to arrange that - would be awesome. I'm eagerly awaiting the publication of her follow-up to The Mother of the Lord.
@@christopherroberts7472 I’m waiting for vol 2 as well. Any word on when that might happen?
@@Joel-oo7hv Unfortunately, no. I heard her mention elsewhere that it was nearing publication....
The Masoritic edit of the text might indicate that the responsible scribes were the original Postmodernists.
As Mr. Barker points out, convenient passages are altered with an agenda defined by a consistent pattern. But this sort of thing is not reserved for the eradication of the Devine Feminine. While it may have started here, it worked so well that it was extended to other ideas. (Corruption is never satisfied once it tastes a bit of success.)
This sort of, “creative editing,” can also be found in two other areas: 1) The elimination or obscuration of prophecies regarding the two Houses of Judah and Israel, called, “The Whole House of Israel..” That which includes all twelve tribes appears to be ironically, a post-Second Temple version of Rabbinic, “Replacement Theology,” to where the Tribes of Judea and Benjamin attempt to assume unto themselves the identity along with all the promises meant for the combined Sons of Jacob.
(I would love to have been a fly on the wall within the Zionist councils which decided on the future name of their nation as, Israel, rather than Judah.)
The second of course is, 2) the reinterpretation of verses in the Tanakh which describe the Messiah as a man to instead the Jewish people. By extension then, this would alter their eschatological aspirations which in turn could have considerable geo-political ramifications.
I find it a curious historic coincidence that Darbyite Dispensationalism and Zionism date back to the same decade of the 19th Century, i.e., the 1840’s. Without Dispensationalism, which swept into the Christian Evangelical seminaries like a storm, I argue Zionism would never have gotten the necessary political traction within Post-Millennial Christianity, engaged at the time in creating Colonies for Christ, nor Preterist Christianity, confident the issue had already been settled.
(That was quite the decade on many levels; and, when considered all together, I view to have had such a profound civilization-wide impact to have earned the title, “The Second Axial Period.”)
This, I should think, would give, “Messianic-Zionist,” Evangelical Christians some pause if they fully understood the potential political ramifications if not the impact upon their Theology, which they seem to have glazed over…these self-proclaimed experts on, “The Apoycrophon.” Given the influence of their own eschatological speculations upon their political efforts one would think this a concept they could readily grasp, though this does not seem to be the case.
The infusion of, Dispensationalism, and its odder step children such as, “the Rapture,” (intended to completely remove Christians from the political discourse,) into the world view of the most politically influential wing of American Christianity has been such a resounding success that it can only inspire a reluctant admiration.
What will they think of next? The Gospel According to Alien Space Brothers from the Pleiades? “Oh, now you’ve really gone ‘round the bend, haven’t you!”
The intact tradition of the Great Lady of the Temple extending to Romanos the Melodist, a Syrian poet who wrote the Akathistos Hymn (and many extensive Kontakia no longer sung) in the VII c. speaks to the Syriac/Syrian contiguity with Temple spirituality enduring from the Apostles and being taken up by the Church catholic to become mainstream by Romanos’ time.
The remarkable fidelity of the Church to its roots seems to be entirely lost on such lights as Bart Ehrman, whose schoarlship has read him out of Christian faith altogether.
If we learn our own Tradition with eyes of faith and curiosity as Dr. Barker does, we will be surprised to learn that all of it is Truth and God is forever faithful to his beloved people, from the beginning to the eschaton.
Always loved Margaret Barker, she is incredibly insightful and does ground breaking work
Christmas comes early with this episode!
"You contradicted something you said in 1980."
"Good. That means I still have a pulse." 😅
I believe Maragret has planted many seeds at BYU. They love her work there.
Good observations - I have a couple of her books and appreciate her thinking
She's wonderful--and I love her sense of humor
Hi again Travis! I think she's great, her Temple Theology teachings are really unique and ground-breaking
So excited to revisit this interview!
Margaret Barker: Over-active Imagination
I’m here for it
the rev 12 woman
she is one of the two witnesses like Joseph with the sun moon and stars. and travails in prayer like all the prophets did. shining like the sun means she will be transfigured soon then the Son of God will shine 7 times brighter!
a singing woman pet prophet like in Hosea 2; 14 to 19.
she really really pisses off the devil and laughs at him. she gets thousands of sweet new names now every day and can give people new names. you will laugh when you see all the jokes about her in the bible. Jesus is brilliant and made it plain who she is and hid it in plain sight all over the Holy Bible. Now its being revealed
[2Ki 19:21 KJV] 21 This [is] the word that the LORD hath spoken concerning him; The virgin the daughter of Zion hath despised thee, [and] laughed thee to scorn; the daughter of Jerusalem hath shaken her head at thee.
Approach with imagination and sympathy. Yes!
When Margaret said an opposite book “using all the rejecting evidence”? May I know which book she refers to?
I think she was talking about 'The Great Angel.'
I cannot wait until she figures out that the Goddess Isis or Ishtar is the same Goddess that she is speaking about. She is. She is also Asarte. She is not always "the virgin". The virgin is just one aspect of the goddess. She is also the goddess of love and beauty, who some know as Aphrodite. It's the same Goddess. The Greeks borrowed Aphrodite from the East, who was Ishtar or Inanna, who are the same. And Inanna is Asarte. Who is also the original Goddess of the ancient hebrews. That is her name.
Every goddess is just an aspect of her. Sometimes she is a warrior goddess, sometimes she is the virgin, sometimes she is the crone. She is meant to represent the different phases of what it is to be a female. She is Mother Earth, Gaia. It's the same Goddess.
Margaret's theology goes specifically back to the Jewish roots of the Christian faith, in particular as it relates to the first temple and what happened when the Goddess was ejected and the temple ultimately destroyed. A theologian of Margaret's stature is, I'm sure, aware of mythology relating to Ishtar and other semitic goddesses.
It goes way deeper than you are considering…. Way… way deeper than
Great is Diana of the Ephesians!
What does Mary think of DBH's New Testament translation? Since I can't translate does she have an opinion on the current crop of translations (I've been told that the ESV is better than the RSV.)
I would assume she hasn't read it
Did Barker ever publish the book she said would be ready by Easter? I too am eagerly awaiting Mother of the Lord Volume 2.
Not yet, from what I can tell
Everyone will bow to there Baal a man made God idol 🤯🤦♀️reason it out the Lord the rejected cornerstone was Mother was the females from the beginning. He or Father can be a she or Mother that’s why your to use discernment and logic and reasoning. We have internet and books to help you understand words and meanings but your to lazy to find the God find the truth and stick with what tickles your ears that a man is God. Why do you think Mother Earth Mother Nature is angry! You didn’t seek her, she doesn’t know you
You can't separate the two
@@criticaloptimist7961 Precisely, because if "SHE" is angry then so is "HE", for "THEY" are INDIVISIBLE.
GOD SPOKE EVERYTHING INTO EXISTENCE not mother gave birth
Great stuff!