*I did a few mileage corrections on Mercedes cars. If the SSID number of the cluster was correct, when the cluster was plugged to the car, it would have sync itself with the EIS and the one of the two (cluster & EIS) with the highest mileage will win. For example if the EIS had higher mileage, the cluster would have taken that mileage and visa versa. The reason the dashes were there is because the SSID was wrong. Well done!!!*
Jake that is awesome how you were able to research the problem and then go into the eeprom and read all the hexadecimal data and write the appropriate data back into the chip. I don’t know if you learned all knowledge on your own or went to a class for it but you are one heck of a diagnostic technician. 👍Artie
@@autodiagyt so glad to have joined your you tube. Yes I’m older but I will never stop trying to learn. Your channel plus a few reputable others plus joining groups like Hands on Automotive with Brian Mann, Mechanic Mindset with Darren Quinn plus a few programming groups are very helpful. Individuals like yourself that show the whole process from good to bad are very few. Nothing is ever easy and perfect I just keep putting in the time. Thanks for replying Jake 👍
Dang must have been soooo satisfying to see the mileage finally show up on the cluster!! I like cars with analog odometers...maybe replace the worm gear if they stop turning haha
@@autodiagytI do the same thing. I may spend a little longer than I should on something like this but it feels good to tell that guy that everyone has told no or that it can’t be done that you fixed it. You can quickly make a name for yourself in your area as the go to guy that way.
Good one! Glad you got it figured out. I'm betting if you would have just blanked out the mileage portion of the data with the correct hex for zero (either ff or 00) then corrected the ssid and installed it, the eis would have shot over the mileage into the cluster and you would have been ok. I say this because I had a similar situation with a BMW that I got it working in this way. I learned a lot on mine and I bet you did too here. Thanks for sharing as always.
Someone must be riding that brake pedal to have that much wear. When I sold my last S-class it had 278,000 miles on it and there was no real visible wear on the rubber pad. I’m constantly amazed by your knowledge and skills.
Very interesting case and great work around, Jake! Some time back, I saw a channel in YT that deals with this kind of stuff and decodes / encodes the hex data in the EEPROMs - although they explain a lot about data location and contents, they are a commercial project, that sells in-circuit readers and software. Can't remember the channel name, though. Your problem was the exact opposite of a funny case a friend of mine told me, some 15 years ago. He worked as a car electrician in a specialized shop and the owner bought a cheap Mercedes in mint condition, but it had too many miles on it. So, he decided to buy a new cluster (very expensive), thinking he could program the mileage in it, but the moment he connected it, it updated to the real mileage :-) Apparently, that Mercedes (can't recall the model) had the mileage stored in three different modules and self-corrected any discrepancy among the three stored values.
Sounds like Andromeda Research. They have quite a few UA-cam videos on eeprom work and they sell a great programmer that does in circuit work where others can’t. Their programmer has dip switches to change the voltages and such so that it doesn’t wake up other components that are connected to the eeprom that have a tendency to corrupt the data you are trying to read/write.
Thank you for doing the extra research in the other Forums, where Communities Come Together, nice repair video that many techs would not even attempt until they see this tutorial, cheers.
I have very good luck reading in circuit with the Andromeda Research Labs AR32A. It built for reading in circuit. If you’ve never used one you should give it a shot. I don’t mind desoldering chips but I would much rather not have to do it and save time in the process. You do need a laptop or computer with a serial port to use it.
Great information, thank you. Really appreciate you taking your time and explaining the process of doing that kind of work. 👍 I'm still learning eeprom work, so every little information helps me out.
Jake, this is pretty heavy duty stuff! I don't think normal people think about this kind of thing. But some of us aren't normal. This was fun! Thanks for Sharing! 🤔🙂🙂
Great job! Also have an IM608 but since it messed up couple important EEPROMs during reading/writing never use it for the important immo jobs anymore. For programming Asian smarts only) Came back to VVDI and never regret. BTW it messed up EIS chip data when I was trying to read original data and I was f..ed.
Make sure you go into the options in the eeprom menu on the im608 and turn on the option to validate the reading and writing of eeprom data. It will double check every read and write so you’ll usually know if you had a bad read as it certainly happens especially if you’re trying to do it in circuit. The good thing is that if you’re not getting a good read from the chip the data will never be the same when reading it twice and the validation will usually catch that. The menu you’re looking for is on the menu where you have the read eeprom/write eeprom after you have selected what chip you are working with. I never mess with voltage selection I just turn on the validation options. Changing the voltage setting could help to get a good read in circuit but I usually go to the AR32a in those situations anyways as it’s a great in circuit programmer.
Didn't know Autel had PC software for the XP400, I guess I missed that. Would that be the ATProgrammer/XP400 software? I got the 608 Pro II when first released, wanted the faster CPU and more memory.
Im also have this problem. I changed my w221 instrument cluster one month before. Now my milage like this. -------- and have a drive authorisation fault for the instrument cluster. I have maxisys 909 tool can i change my actual milage from that tool.??? Like re program or learn drive authorisation, without remove any parts ?
yes but the mileage could be a million miles on the key module five miles on the dash if they came from a different car how are you to find the true mileage of the car they are in now if any module that holds any mileage dont belong to the original car in the uk police cars dont have a official mot inspectoin so that car could be clocked and loose hundred thousand miles and no way of checking and cannot go to last mot to check @@autodiagyt
thanks for the reply i am suspicious when mileage is different i look for outside 3rd party confirmation i have seen a lot of clocked cars @@autodiagyt
I really can't remember what all I had to do but I don't think I could do it on bench with just the 2 modules. I'm sure someone that does a lot of Mercedes probably could but I don't know that I could.
@@autodiagyt ok thank you for your reply. I’m hoping I can find someone because the dealer will definitely empty my bank account on this one I have a feeling. Dave,,
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4:30 I'm screaming just pull the EEPROM read it from the old cluster & get EIS data open both in a hex editor mod, save & write back to EEPROM, I'm a mechanic & electronics tech 40+yrs this is basic shit, no offense but I flash 1-2 lapotop bios chips every night & at least 1 ECU a week for so many different reasons so don't ask cuz the answer is stupid but I do as I'm asked to do with no diag & 1. I get paid upfront & 2. It usually doesn't fix said problem & that's when I say do yo want it fixed........$$$$$
Yes but the EIS had the required data to open in a hex editor to add to the file from new the cluster EEPROM the thing is knowing what to cut & paste in a HEX file if you can't read them, anyway not anyways that's a yank thing the young n dumb in OZ say & I just shake my head n say society is F-ed if that's our educated failures, yhanks social media of which I want no part.
@autodiagprogramming I definitely understand that just always been very interested in that type of work I've always been interested with coding I've also been very interested in circuit board designs and functionality and and repair of the circuit board those are some of my favorite videos I really wanted to get into circuit board repairs and what all the little components do and why and how LOL
*I did a few mileage corrections on Mercedes cars. If the SSID number of the cluster was correct, when the cluster was plugged to the car, it would have sync itself with the EIS and the one of the two (cluster & EIS) with the highest mileage will win. For example if the EIS had higher mileage, the cluster would have taken that mileage and visa versa. The reason the dashes were there is because the SSID was wrong. Well done!!!*
What do you use ?
I admire your tenacity. Your knowledge of electronics is really displayed in the cases you undertake. Please keep them coming. Great work!
Jake that is awesome how you were able to research the problem and then go into the eeprom and read all the hexadecimal data and write the appropriate data back into the chip. I don’t know if you learned all knowledge on your own or went to a class for it but you are one heck of a diagnostic technician. 👍Artie
@@autodiagyt so glad to have joined your you tube. Yes I’m older but I will never stop trying to learn. Your channel plus a few reputable others plus joining groups like Hands on Automotive with Brian Mann, Mechanic Mindset with Darren Quinn plus a few programming groups are very helpful. Individuals like yourself that show the whole process from good to bad are very few. Nothing is ever easy and perfect I just keep putting in the time. Thanks for replying Jake 👍
Dang must have been soooo satisfying to see the mileage finally show up on the cluster!!
I like cars with analog odometers...maybe replace the worm gear if they stop turning haha
@@autodiagytI do the same thing. I may spend a little longer than I should on something like this but it feels good to tell that guy that everyone has told no or that it can’t be done that you fixed it. You can quickly make a name for yourself in your area as the go to guy that way.
Good one! Glad you got it figured out. I'm betting if you would have just blanked out the mileage portion of the data with the correct hex for zero (either ff or 00) then corrected the ssid and installed it, the eis would have shot over the mileage into the cluster and you would have been ok. I say this because I had a similar situation with a BMW that I got it working in this way. I learned a lot on mine and I bet you did too here. Thanks for sharing as always.
All of my 10mm sockets just saluted you.
Someone must be riding that brake pedal to have that much wear. When I sold my last S-class it had 278,000 miles on it and there was no real visible wear on the rubber pad.
I’m constantly amazed by your knowledge and skills.
Dang! How many technicians can do this level of repair work? Superb job.
Very interesting case and great work around, Jake! Some time back, I saw a channel in YT that deals with this kind of stuff and decodes / encodes the hex data in the EEPROMs - although they explain a lot about data location and contents, they are a commercial project, that sells in-circuit readers and software. Can't remember the channel name, though.
Your problem was the exact opposite of a funny case a friend of mine told me, some 15 years ago. He worked as a car electrician in a specialized shop and the owner bought a cheap Mercedes in mint condition, but it had too many miles on it. So, he decided to buy a new cluster (very expensive), thinking he could program the mileage in it, but the moment he connected it, it updated to the real mileage :-) Apparently, that Mercedes (can't recall the model) had the mileage stored in three different modules and self-corrected any discrepancy among the three stored values.
@@autodiagyt Yep, fully intentional, but very bad luck 🙂
Sounds like Andromeda Research. They have quite a few UA-cam videos on eeprom work and they sell a great programmer that does in circuit work where others can’t. Their programmer has dip switches to change the voltages and such so that it doesn’t wake up other components that are connected to the eeprom that have a tendency to corrupt the data you are trying to read/write.
@@Jpilgrim30 Yep, that's it! It was about a year ago and my brain is getting old 🙂
Thank you for doing the extra research in the other Forums, where Communities Come Together, nice repair video that many techs would not even attempt until they see this tutorial, cheers.
This is a huge part of our job, BIG diffrence between correction and tampering. Correction is part of a repair, great video as always mate 👍
Great work, Thanks! what do you use to translate the HEX data?
Absolutely awesome work! Thanks for sharing 👍
Great research and superb repair sir..i hope it will help many out there to help customers. Cheers
I have very good luck reading in circuit with the Andromeda Research Labs AR32A. It built for reading in circuit. If you’ve never used one you should give it a shot. I don’t mind desoldering chips but I would much rather not have to do it and save time in the process. You do need a laptop or computer with a serial port to use it.
Great information, thank you. Really appreciate you taking your time and explaining the process of doing that kind of work. 👍 I'm still learning eeprom work, so every little information helps me out.
Does the Black Chipholder @6:10 come with the XP400 Pro? Nice job!
Superb job, Jake!
Awesome case of study. Felicitaciones👋
Wow! That’s very impressive! Thanks for sharing
Jake, this is pretty heavy duty stuff! I don't think normal people think about this kind of thing. But some of us aren't normal. This was fun! Thanks for Sharing! 🤔🙂🙂
You are so smart!! I love the channel!!
What about option codes?
Great job! Also have an IM608 but since it messed up couple important EEPROMs during reading/writing never use it for the important immo jobs anymore. For programming Asian smarts only) Came back to VVDI and never regret. BTW it messed up EIS chip data when I was trying to read original data and I was f..ed.
Make sure you go into the options in the eeprom menu on the im608 and turn on the option to validate the reading and writing of eeprom data. It will double check every read and write so you’ll usually know if you had a bad read as it certainly happens especially if you’re trying to do it in circuit. The good thing is that if you’re not getting a good read from the chip the data will never be the same when reading it twice and the validation will usually catch that. The menu you’re looking for is on the menu where you have the read eeprom/write eeprom after you have selected what chip you are working with. I never mess with voltage selection I just turn on the validation options. Changing the voltage setting could help to get a good read in circuit but I usually go to the AR32a in those situations anyways as it’s a great in circuit programmer.
Nice fix. How do you charge for something like this since you had hours of research to figure out how to do what you needed to do?
@@autodiagyt Hopefully. I guess if you actually charged what the time that everything took, the owner probably wouldn't have had it done.
Well done young man carry on
Jake you are one of the rare ones. Very good job.. .
How to fix the not show mileage what program did you use for hex please
Didn't know Autel had PC software for the XP400, I guess I missed that. Would that be the ATProgrammer/XP400 software? I got the 608 Pro II when first released, wanted the faster CPU and more memory.
Are you an electrical engineer or something? Watching these videos amazes me. Where did you learn all this stuff? Are you related to Steven Hawking?
What a deal Great job.
Im also have this problem. I changed my w221 instrument cluster one month before. Now my milage like this. -------- and have a drive authorisation fault for the instrument cluster. I have maxisys 909 tool can i change my actual milage from that tool.??? Like re program or learn drive authorisation, without remove any parts ?
Not that I'm aware of. It would be easiest to clone your original into the donor if you still have it.
My '10 S550 has those dashes...looks like it will stay that way hahaha!! Good vid...sub'd!
Heterochromia light blue & brown! Rare...
Great job sir!
what happens if the key module have been changed and the dash the next one will be quicker and the feeling of beating it was worth the time
yes but the mileage could be a million miles on the key module five miles on the dash if they came from a different car how are you to find the true mileage of the car they are in now if any module that holds any mileage dont belong to the original car in the uk police cars dont have a official mot inspectoin so that car could be clocked and loose hundred thousand miles and no way of checking and cannot go to last mot to check @@autodiagyt
thanks for the reply i am suspicious when mileage is different i look for outside 3rd party confirmation i have seen a lot of clocked cars @@autodiagyt
Nice! All about learning in this field. But paying for this kind of research that is hard to justify.
what did you use to calculate milage??
There is calculators you can find.
Can you do this to my e550 (2007) if I send you eis and cluster?
I really can't remember what all I had to do but I don't think I could do it on bench with just the 2 modules. I'm sure someone that does a lot of Mercedes probably could but I don't know that I could.
@@autodiagyt ok thank you for your reply. I’m hoping I can find someone because the dealer will definitely empty my bank account on this one I have a feeling.
Dave,,
@@rizzotto139 where are you located?
@@autodiagyt I was just going to ask you the same thing lol I’m in Virginia
@@rizzotto139 send me a email
no mileage because cluster was swapped from another car, mercedes does this for these reasons.
wow nice work
Good job
Good job 👍
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0 in dash. Sync. It works every time.
@@autodiagyt piece of shit fvdi 2014 does-it.
Sync in what tool?
Grasias
same
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From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧 ⏰️ 22:29pm
4:30 I'm screaming just pull the EEPROM read it from the old cluster & get EIS data open both in a hex editor mod, save & write back to EEPROM, I'm a mechanic & electronics tech 40+yrs this is basic shit, no offense but I flash 1-2 lapotop bios chips every night & at least 1 ECU a week for so many different reasons so don't ask cuz the answer is stupid but I do as I'm asked to do with no diag & 1. I get paid upfront & 2. It usually doesn't fix said problem & that's when I say do yo want it fixed........$$$$$
Yes but the EIS had the required data to open in a hex editor to add to the file from new the cluster EEPROM the thing is knowing what to cut & paste in a HEX file if you can't read them, anyway not anyways that's a yank thing the young n dumb in OZ say & I just shake my head n say society is
F-ed if that's our educated failures, yhanks social media of which I want no part.
Nice job wish you would go into more detail about this type of stuff very interesting where do you do a lot of your research just forms on Google
@autodiagprogramming I definitely understand that just always been very interested in that type of work I've always been interested with coding I've also been very interested in circuit board designs and functionality and and repair of the circuit board those are some of my favorite videos I really wanted to get into circuit board repairs and what all the little components do and why and how LOL