There is a longer version of the final sound comparison clip here: ua-cam.com/video/gQiAkOCQ-EA/v-deo.html Timestamps: 0:00 Let's get it on! 4:20 Comparison; original vs. Leo Vince/no DB killer vs. Leo Vince with DB killer 5:02 Test ride including... 6:37 ride by clips 8:15 Comparison; no DB killer vs. with DB Killer vs. shortened DB killer
Thanks for this Rikky, I have the R1250RS and thought about changing the exhaust but then I mainly ride longer trips and like you think this would be too load the original pipe is about right and in dynamic pro mode makes a few bangs and pops keep up the vlog
I didn't give a part number actually - it's 14275S Also I got the name slightly wrong, it's a Leo Vince Factory S. I'll update the name where I in my descriptions 😊. Yes looks lovely doesn't it!
Hi Rikky, i fitted a remus to mine sounds great but on hard acceleration it pops slightly and feels like the bike is holding back. i may try and put db killer in to see if it makes a difference.
I *thought* I could feel a slight difference without the DB Killer (like it felt a bit rougher) but I wasn't sure actually. Now the other day (be aware that I might be perpetuating a myth here) I decided to start the bike and let it tick over for 15 minutes. I have heard/read that this allows the ECU to adapt to the change of exhaust. I rode the bike today and it feels as strong as it did before the new exhaust so who knows if it made a difference! You will certainly get more pops now but they tend to be when you come off the throttle at lower revs.
Hey Rikky Tang, a great choice, the best for a BMW boxer🙂 I've had for 6 years this LEO sliped on my 1200RS > amazing.....BUT as your experience, without DB Killer to loud, BUT LOVELY...and a problem of original DB Killer is that's only a pipe, both sides open!!! Means, okay, lower than 4500/5000 rpm, BUT full fire the sound goes directly out through the pipe:-( tooooo loooud.....so I bought a second original LEO DB Killer, has to be extra manufactured, not stock, similar pipe, but with a cap on inner side AND with slits...much more better, same sound as original DB, but the complete range acceptable:-))))
@@RikkyTang I used to have a r1200gs with a GPR exhaust can on it and it sounded great, I've got a ktm 1290 super duke gt at the moment with a Akrapovic can and I'd never put a baffle in that, it came with one, but it's still in the bag unopened 😅😅
Unreal video! That looks and sounds amazing! Will definitely keep this in mind for when I buy this bike! Already have a LeoVince on my Suzuki and am very happy with the sound.
Thanks for the feedback and yeah this exhaust was a great choice! I think it does sound awesome and I have decided to keep the DB killer out 😈 Looks better than the Akra and Remus IMO and maybe even the SC Project cans!
Yeah the main problem with the standard exhaust is that I couldn't hear the bike at all when I was riding! The short baffle might come back out again haha
Nah, not anti-social😎. Looks and sounds great! Don’t feel guilty, wear earplugs and be safe. I just put my arrow on. Vid coming soon or you can see it now on my Instagram. 💪🏼
Best sound is W/O the db killer- (in my opinion) I hope my arrow will sound just as good - hows the fueling? was it affected in any way W/O the db killer?
I'm still trying to figure out if it affects fuelling... I think it might be making the throttle pickup a little weaker at low revs (i.e. under 3k rpm) but I can't be sure... if there is a difference it's marginal. But to figure it out I'll have to stick the DB killer back in and I'm having too much fun with it out! 😁
@@RikkyTang I bet you are.... does sound and look good,, now Im second guessing my color choice with the arrow, chose the Titanium but the black looks really good..... when you say throttle pick up do mean theres an on off feeling under 3K or do you mean it developed a dead spot? or less responsive under 3K ?
@@lennykibbs260 Well if it has affected anything it just feels like the throttle response is a bit "fluffier" and the pull isn't quite as consistent when you open the throttle under 3k rpm. But I'd have to put the DB killer back in and test again to be sure. I do think the titanium look would be good with my bikes colour scheme too, but the thing with titanium is that scratches and stains do show up quite easily in my experience.
@@lennykibbs260 Well after I left my last comment I decided to stick the DB killer back in before going for a ride (about 80 miles) and.... to be honest I don't think it really feels any different after all! I think I was looking for problems and I thought I found an issue which was probably there all along. The bike pulls really well from 4k rpm and the torque/response is just a bit weaker at around 3k rpm. At least that what I have found, YMMV! 👍
Beauty of the modes is can take it out of dynamic pro and less noisy. I like look of this one. Plus isn’t really that loud, not like it has been de cat and new headers fitted.
The modes don't seem to make an awful lot of difference... it seems to pop and burble the same way in any of the three modes (haven't tried rain yet lol). Maybe I just need more time on the bike! I have just come back from a ride tonight without the baffle and I gotta say... I love that farty sound 😍😂
I’m thinking of upgrading from a 12 F800R to a 1250R and I’ve really been enjoying your videos. The worst part for me about the stock exhaust is that it’s bright chrome! Come on BMW it’s not that much of an old man’s bike! New can sounds great but I think the biggest improvement is in the looks. The black looks way sleeker. Still happy with it?
Hi Sam, I actually ended up selling the Arrow exhaust because it was too loud and any attempt to make it a bit quieter actually affected the performance. I have an SP Engineering silencer now which admittedly doesn't look as good, but sounds awesome and the bike feels as strong as ever! So overall still loving the bike and there isn't anything I'd swap it for at the moment (until the new 1300 boxers get announced anyway!)
It does sound really good with the baffle out... I'm so torn lmao! Sounds pretty good with the shortened baffle though and the exhaust itself look gorgeous 😊
Nice looking exhaust. I had arrow on my r1200r. The beauty of the bmw system is the flap valve. I found at steady or off throttle, it was quiet so only anti social if you hard you hard throttle in built up areas.
It's the sound of loud bikes echoing around the countryside that I have a problem with... which is why I'm so torn on the baffle situation for my bike - it does sound about perfect without the baffle!
The deepness of the tone makes it less offensive, that coupled with the fact that it’s no a high revving engine means..... that pipe is a keeper baffle or no baffle.
Yep I'm really happy with the end result. Baffle-out sounds just about perfect to me... it's just that I fear the bassy drone is a bit too much for thrashing around the countryside 😊
it's quite normal though for stock bikes to sound a bit shy, isn't it? I must say I was pleasantly surprised with the stock sound of the 1250R as you get the nice engine sound.
Sounds great but what I done to my Rockster is take the db out & cut it down 1 inch at a time to find the point of not being to loud but to me just right.
Not sure if you've seen my other vids but I eventually found that there was a small circular metal disc with five holes in it, down where the link pipe meets the silencer. What I didn't realise was that this disc was robbing me of around 10-20% percent of power! Hopefully you haven't got the same disc at the bottom of yours (I don't think it was an official Leo Vince part).
I have to admit that the DB killer has not been back in for a couple of weeks now! I have MachineArt Moto X-Heads for the rocker covers. They are sold in various places but I got mine from Nippy Normans www.nippynormans.com/x-heads/machineart-x-heads-for-1250-models-pair-r1250gs1250adv-r1250rt1250rs1250r
Was all of the test riding with baffle out? Wondering how much louder than stock it is with baffle in? I have the r1250rs and mostly want to trim the weight and lose the chrome tree trunk. Thanks for the vid.
As you may have seen in the videos that followed this one, I ended up selling this exhaust eventually. There was a small disk in this exhaust which actually made the end can quiter but also robbed this bike of power. I didn't think this disk would be a problem to begin with until I finally realised that it was causing the bike some problems. Once i removed that disk I could not makes that end can quiet enough and thats why I sold it in the end. In hindsight, if I had thought of making the type of home-made db killer that I am now using i the SP Engineering end can, I would have kept it. Sorry for the long reply!
Definitely looks better and the weight saving thrown in is a plus. I would have liked a bit longer time at the end of your video to compare no baffle and shorter baffle! As always thanks for uploading.
Hey Rikky interesting I think the new pipe looks great and actually sounds really good too quieter than I was expecting if the recording is anything to go by . I have heard V twins sound louder than that I imagine that it will not effect the normal running of the bike in any way good move and good vid Cheers : )
I would have loved a Remus or SC Project but they are mega bucks... very happy that I found a nice exhaust for a reasonable price! Baffle-out would be my preference but I think it would just echo around the countryside just a bit too much... never say never though! 😁
Excellent video! I miss seeing some of your videos so I am going to ask questions about this as well as a recent video that I watched with you trying out different screens on the bike. First I want to say I think you are a mad scientist and that is why I enjoy your videos so much! You are an exciting person to watch because I admire thinkers. Did you get any power increase out of this after market exhaust? Did you just change it for appearances? How much did this aftermarket exhaust weigh? I saw the stock exhaust weight but not the aftermarket exhaust weight. I was thinking that you would keep the DB killer in to minimize the sound of the exhaust. What other exhausts can you put on this bike? I was impressed that you did your research and took a chance on this although it says it is for the other bikes that you mentioned. On another note, regarding the windscreens in your other video. It was not clear to me which one you preferred because there were concerns noted about both, although I think the taller one worked. Did either give you more wind protection than nothing? And do you only use it for highway and long distance travels? Also, how many miles are on your bike now and do you still enjoy it like you had hoped and any regrets getting rid of your sport bike? Thanks
Right then Paul, let me sit down with a nice cup of tea and I’ll go through your questions! First of all, thanks for the mad scientist analogy, that did make me laugh! I guess it all comes from a background of making do with the things I have around me and not being able afford the best products available. It turns out for me the new end can was a big mistake. I actually lost power with it fitted but I never noticed the power loss until I went on that track day. When I re-fitted the OEM exhaust it felt like I had gained 15-20hp from what I had gotten used to. I think the Leo Vince exhaust needs a remap and dyno time to work with my bike but I have no desire to spend that sort of money and so I’ll stick with the OEM exhaust for now. The new exhaust was 3kg lighter than the OEM, but I couldn’t really feel the difference. I was planning to use the DB killer but I fell in love with the sound of thunder without it! And yes I took a chance on it, it hasn’t worked out and that is usually the way I do things 😊 With the windscreens, neither of them were perfect but the taller one caused a lot of turbulence and I couldn’t use it. The smaller screen does cause a bit of buffeting on the top of my helmet but it does have the effect of keeping some wind off my shoulders and also the screen provides protection for the instruments and so overall it’s worth keeping on the bike. I never really done long distance travels on a bike apart from a couple of trips to Spain and France. Currently I rarely ride more than 200 miles in a day but I do hope to ride some longer distances in the next month or two before we move into Autumn. My bike is up to about 3700 miles now… this is awkward because my motorbike insurance has a mileage limit of 4000 per year! The insurance doesn’t renew till next April and so I’ve got to modify my policy! But it’s all good, I’m really enjoying this bike so far! No regrets of selling the S1000R - this bike suits me better 👍
@@RikkyTang Thanks for responding. I just watched the video about your exhaust and losing power with the aftermarket exhaust on it. That is interesting because I have read and heard that aftermarket exhausts can be put on a bike with out re-mapping or using a power commander and there could be some horse power gains and of course a better sound. However, I was under the impression (which is the second line of reasoning) that if you need to remap the the system and or power commander. I did use a power commander on a Ducati 998 that I had along time ago with and aftermarket exhaust. (Remus). But, I am still surprised at the amount of loss of power that you experienced. I think also re-mapping the system and power commander is a way to avoid back firing etc. Did you put a lot of money into the upgraded exhaust and what will you do with it now? Regarding the windscreen are you going to ride with out it now and not use it at all? Should you use and even taller windscreen to get better coverage? I am interested in considering a R 1250 R and when the 2022 come out here in the US I will take a look at it and go for a test ride. That bike has been on my mind for a long time. Thanks
@@p-dub7422 Hi there, yes there are differing opinions, claims and experiences when it comes to fitting aftermarket exhausts. You’ll see a lot of adverts saying “no adjustments or remapping required” but then when you look at the small print it’ll say “for optimum performance a remap may be required”. Frustrating! But in my case if I had noticed the power drop off straight away I would have immediately removed the end can, but I just didn’t notice it and I was too busy enjoying the noise it made! Also I knew that this can wasn’t designed specifically for the 1250 and so I know I took a chance on buying it. The exhaust cost me £350… not sure what I’ll do with it now… I did try to have the DB killer welded back together but the guy who I asked to do it said that in his opinion it wouldn’t make a difference to how the bike would perform and he didn’t want to take my money! I may still get it welded up anyway (or buy a replacement if I can find one cheap) because I would like to know for sure. When it comes to popping/backfiring after an exhaust is fitted, to my knowledge that is usually fixed by disabling/removing the PAIR system. That was certainly the case with my Bandit 1250 but things may have moved on since then! I’ll be keeping the sport screen on - overall it’s slightly better than not having the screen at all, and also 1) it keeps bugs of the back of the instrument panel and 2) I can mount my GoPro behind it which keeps the bugs of that lens too. I do not want to start buying alternative screens though… I went through that with the Bandit and I went through five different screens without ever finding one that worked for me. The current screen is good enough, just about! The R1250R is an underrated bike I think… more torque than a KTM Superduke 1290 but designed more for real world speeds - I think you’ll enjoy it!
@@RikkyTang HI did you think about getting and Akrapovic? I wonder if that aftermarket was selected if you it would have worked out better because BMW does sell some of it bikes with it on it. Also, I notice that you have a Givi on the rear seat rather than BMW side cases why did you make that selection and thanks! Would you consider the side cases that you can get for the bike the big one.
@@p-dub7422 I haven't considered the Akrapovic mainly due to the looks - it doesn't look like a "true" Akrapovic of the past in my eyes... too big and bulky! If I had the money I would probably have an SC Project exhaust 😊 I prefer top boxes to side cases... rigid side cases make the rear of the bike very wide and I think I will hit them against something one day when a taking tight turn... against a parked car or a post! And I'd have to remove them before I left or returned to my house because the entry to the rear of the house where I park the bike is very tight.
![BMW R 1250 RS sound [RAW Onboard]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ejLLlshzr0U/mqdefault.jpg)
There is a longer version of the final sound comparison clip here: ua-cam.com/video/gQiAkOCQ-EA/v-deo.html
Timestamps:
0:00 Let's get it on!
4:20 Comparison; original vs. Leo Vince/no DB killer vs. Leo Vince with DB killer
5:02 Test ride including...
6:37 ride by clips
8:15 Comparison; no DB killer vs. with DB Killer vs. shortened DB killer
Thanks for this Rikky, I have the R1250RS and thought about changing the exhaust but then I mainly ride longer trips and like you think this would be too load the original pipe is about right and in dynamic pro mode makes a few bangs and pops keep up the vlog
Hi Paul, yes I'm just getting to understand that there are more pops and burbles with this bike that I realised! I do love a good burble 😁
Sounds great and looks 100% better than the chrome stock can. Did you list part number of the LeoVince you used?
I didn't give a part number actually - it's 14275S Also I got the name slightly wrong, it's a Leo Vince Factory S. I'll update the name where I in my descriptions 😊. Yes looks lovely doesn't it!
Hi Rikky, i fitted a remus to mine sounds great but on hard acceleration it pops slightly and feels like the bike is holding back. i may try and put db killer in to see if it makes a difference.
I *thought* I could feel a slight difference without the DB Killer (like it felt a bit rougher) but I wasn't sure actually.
Now the other day (be aware that I might be perpetuating a myth here) I decided to start the bike and let it tick over for 15 minutes. I have heard/read that this allows the ECU to adapt to the change of exhaust. I rode the bike today and it feels as strong as it did before the new exhaust so who knows if it made a difference!
You will certainly get more pops now but they tend to be when you come off the throttle at lower revs.
Hey Rikky Tang, a great choice, the best for a BMW boxer🙂
I've had for 6 years this LEO sliped on my 1200RS > amazing.....BUT as your experience, without DB Killer to loud, BUT LOVELY...and a problem of original DB Killer is that's only a pipe, both sides open!!! Means, okay, lower than 4500/5000 rpm, BUT full fire the sound goes directly out through the pipe:-( tooooo loooud.....so I bought a second original LEO DB Killer, has to be extra manufactured, not stock, similar pipe, but with a cap on inner side AND with slits...much more better, same sound as original DB, but the complete range acceptable:-))))
Hi- What top plate are you using? sorry off topic
No probs Lenny 😊 It's a Givi SRA5117 to fit the OEM rear rack (that was already on my bike). The top plate was £110 via eBay.
@@RikkyTang TY
Sounds perfect without the baffle...bikes should be heard...
I am definitely leaning that way, cant help it!
@@RikkyTang I used to have a r1200gs with a GPR exhaust can on it and it sounded great, I've got a ktm 1290 super duke gt at the moment with a Akrapovic can and I'd never put a baffle in that, it came with one, but it's still in the bag unopened 😅😅
Music sounds anti-social? What kind of crazy talk is that?!
Unreal video! That looks and sounds amazing! Will definitely keep this in mind for when I buy this bike! Already have a LeoVince on my Suzuki and am very happy with the sound.
Thanks for the feedback and yeah this exhaust was a great choice! I think it does sound awesome and I have decided to keep the DB killer out 😈
Looks better than the Akra and Remus IMO and maybe even the SC Project cans!
Definitely need to keep the baffle out man! You can actually hear it now! It's not like it's a big v-twin or anything, not that offensive really
Yeah the main problem with the standard exhaust is that I couldn't hear the bike at all when I was riding! The short baffle might come back out again haha
Nah, not anti-social😎. Looks and sounds great! Don’t feel guilty, wear earplugs and be safe. I just put my arrow on. Vid coming soon or you can see it now on my Instagram. 💪🏼
Best sound is W/O the db killer- (in my opinion) I hope my arrow will sound just as good - hows the fueling? was it affected in any way W/O the db killer?
I'm still trying to figure out if it affects fuelling... I think it might be making the throttle pickup a little weaker at low revs (i.e. under 3k rpm) but I can't be sure... if there is a difference it's marginal. But to figure it out I'll have to stick the DB killer back in and I'm having too much fun with it out! 😁
@@RikkyTang I bet you are.... does sound and look good,, now Im second guessing my color choice with the arrow, chose the Titanium but the black looks really good..... when you say throttle pick up do mean theres an on off feeling under 3K or do you mean it developed a dead spot? or less responsive under 3K ?
@@lennykibbs260 Well if it has affected anything it just feels like the throttle response is a bit "fluffier" and the pull isn't quite as consistent when you open the throttle under 3k rpm. But I'd have to put the DB killer back in and test again to be sure.
I do think the titanium look would be good with my bikes colour scheme too, but the thing with titanium is that scratches and stains do show up quite easily in my experience.
@@lennykibbs260 Well after I left my last comment I decided to stick the DB killer back in before going for a ride (about 80 miles) and.... to be honest I don't think it really feels any different after all! I think I was looking for problems and I thought I found an issue which was probably there all along.
The bike pulls really well from 4k rpm and the torque/response is just a bit weaker at around 3k rpm. At least that what I have found, YMMV! 👍
@@RikkyTang Kool Thanks for replying- yeah for some reason when we change / add things we always anticipate the worst???
Good choice mate I have a Leo Vince on my r1200r, sounds like a piston engined fighter plane
Yep that sound is bloody addictive!
The aprokovic is also nice but a bit too high in higher rpm but to 6000rpm its a deep roar
They are fantastic exhausts, great quality and not the price of the Akra.'s etc. Top video as always. Be safe
I was scanning eBay for a bargain and snapped this up straight away... even though I wasn't sure if it would fit 😂
@@RikkyTang The shortened DB killer sounds good.
What is jacket brand name & model?
What was eB price for this LV used exhaust?
The jacket is by Frank Thomas and it is called a "Suede Stripe" leather jacket. The Leo Vince exhaust cost £350.00
@@RikkyTang tnx
I reckon it sounds great without the db killer, awesome!
Nice sound✊🔥🔥
Beauty of the modes is can take it out of dynamic pro and less noisy. I like look of this one. Plus isn’t really that loud, not like it has been de cat and new headers fitted.
The modes don't seem to make an awful lot of difference... it seems to pop and burble the same way in any of the three modes (haven't tried rain yet lol). Maybe I just need more time on the bike! I have just come back from a ride tonight without the baffle and I gotta say... I love that farty sound 😍😂
Rikky went down the rabbit hole when it comes to tje world of exhausts 😁
I’m thinking of upgrading from a 12 F800R to a 1250R and I’ve really been enjoying your videos. The worst part for me about the stock exhaust is that it’s bright chrome! Come on BMW it’s not that much of an old man’s bike! New can sounds great but I think the biggest improvement is in the looks. The black looks way sleeker. Still happy with it?
Hi Sam, I actually ended up selling the Arrow exhaust because it was too loud and any attempt to make it a bit quieter actually affected the performance. I have an SP Engineering silencer now which admittedly doesn't look as good, but sounds awesome and the bike feels as strong as ever! So overall still loving the bike and there isn't anything I'd swap it for at the moment (until the new 1300 boxers get announced anyway!)
Actually, the sound of the arrow is posted on the BMW R1250 R Facebook page, sorry.
Yeah the picture on Instagram seemed a bit quiet 🤣
@@RikkyTang Touché 😆
I went a similar route on my 1250RS. I got a used Remus 8 from a 1200RS. For the cap, I just ordered a new one from the 1200 and it fit right on.
I didn't think to look for a cap from the 1200 model 🤦♂️
Got to say, that really does look better - nice job! I prefer baffle out, but I suppose half baffle is a good compromise, oh and yeah hypocrite : ) :)
It does sound really good with the baffle out... I'm so torn lmao! Sounds pretty good with the shortened baffle though and the exhaust itself look gorgeous 😊
Nice looking exhaust. I had arrow on my r1200r. The beauty of the bmw system is the flap valve. I found at steady or off throttle, it was quiet so only anti social if you hard you hard throttle in built up areas.
It's the sound of loud bikes echoing around the countryside that I have a problem with... which is why I'm so torn on the baffle situation for my bike - it does sound about perfect without the baffle!
The deepness of the tone makes it less offensive, that coupled with the fact that it’s no a high revving engine means..... that pipe is a keeper baffle or no baffle.
Yep I'm really happy with the end result. Baffle-out sounds just about perfect to me... it's just that I fear the bassy drone is a bit too much for thrashing around the countryside 😊
Sounds great. I have a R1250RS, which I love. The only complaint I’ve had is the unimpressive stock sound.
Yep same here, I'm glad I took the chance on the Leo Vince! 👍
@@RikkyTang glad you’re happy. I’ll probably replace mine in the future. Enjoy the ride!
it's quite normal though for stock bikes to sound a bit shy, isn't it? I must say I was pleasantly surprised with the stock sound of the 1250R as you get the nice engine sound.
Sounds great but what I done to my Rockster is take the db out & cut it down 1 inch at a time to find the point of not being to loud but to me just right.
Yes going one inch a time would have been smart but I'm not a very patient man!
I do the same with my db killer for a Leo Vince SB EVO 2. ;)
Not sure if you've seen my other vids but I eventually found that there was a small circular metal disc with five holes in it, down where the link pipe meets the silencer. What I didn't realise was that this disc was robbing me of around 10-20% percent of power! Hopefully you haven't got the same disc at the bottom of yours (I don't think it was an official Leo Vince part).
out for sure ! I have just ordered one. BTY what crash protection do you have on rocker covers please?
I have to admit that the DB killer has not been back in for a couple of weeks now! I have MachineArt Moto X-Heads for the rocker covers. They are sold in various places but I got mine from Nippy Normans www.nippynormans.com/x-heads/machineart-x-heads-for-1250-models-pair-r1250gs1250adv-r1250rt1250rs1250r
Was all of the test riding with baffle out? Wondering how much louder than stock it is with baffle in? I have the r1250rs and mostly want to trim the weight and lose the chrome tree trunk. Thanks for the vid.
As you may have seen in the videos that followed this one, I ended up selling this exhaust eventually. There was a small disk in this exhaust which actually made the end can quiter but also robbed this bike of power. I didn't think this disk would be a problem to begin with until I finally realised that it was causing the bike some problems. Once i removed that disk I could not makes that end can quiet enough and thats why I sold it in the end. In hindsight, if I had thought of making the type of home-made db killer that I am now using i the SP Engineering end can, I would have kept it. Sorry for the long reply!
@@RikkyTang No worries, I appreciate the reply.
Looks nice and sound as expected out of a boxer twin…. Wet fart pit bike lol 😂
I love the farty goodness lmao
Definitely looks better and the weight saving thrown in is a plus. I would have liked a bit longer time at the end of your video to compare no baffle and shorter baffle! As always thanks for uploading.
OK I am working a longer comparison video just for you! I'll let you know when it is ready 😁😁
Here it is! ua-cam.com/video/gQiAkOCQ-EA/v-deo.html
Sounds good to me, leave as it is. Just keep your ear plugs in...
I think I may keep the DB killer out 😁 I won't ride any bike without earplugs,. learned my lesson years ago! #constanttinitus
Hey Rikky interesting I think the new pipe looks great and actually sounds really good too quieter than I was expecting if the recording is anything to go by . I have heard V twins sound louder than that I imagine that it will not effect the normal running of the bike in any way good move and good vid Cheers : )
I would have loved a Remus or SC Project but they are mega bucks... very happy that I found a nice exhaust for a reasonable price! Baffle-out would be my preference but I think it would just echo around the countryside just a bit too much... never say never though! 😁
Flat twin not a V
R1250RS what a BEAST
Loud pipes saves lives 😎😂
That sounds beautiful, don't be silly
The more I ride it without the DB killer, the more I love it!
Excellent video! I miss seeing some of your videos so I am going to ask questions about this as well as a recent video that I watched with you trying out different screens on the bike. First I want to say I think you are a mad scientist and that is why I enjoy your videos so much! You are an exciting person to watch because I admire thinkers. Did you get any power increase out of this after market exhaust? Did you just change it for appearances? How much did this aftermarket exhaust weigh? I saw the stock exhaust weight but not the aftermarket exhaust weight. I was thinking that you would keep the DB killer in to minimize the sound of the exhaust. What other exhausts can you put on this bike? I was impressed that you did your research and took a chance on this although it says it is for the other bikes that you mentioned. On another note, regarding the windscreens in your other video. It was not clear to me which one you preferred because there were concerns noted about both, although I think the taller one worked. Did either give you more wind protection than nothing? And do you only use it for highway and long distance travels? Also, how many miles are on your bike now and do you still enjoy it like you had hoped and any regrets getting rid of your sport bike? Thanks
Right then Paul, let me sit down with a nice cup of tea and I’ll go through your questions! First of all, thanks for the mad scientist analogy, that did make me laugh! I guess it all comes from a background of making do with the things I have around me and not being able afford the best products available.
It turns out for me the new end can was a big mistake. I actually lost power with it fitted but I never noticed the power loss until I went on that track day. When I re-fitted the OEM exhaust it felt like I had gained 15-20hp from what I had gotten used to. I think the Leo Vince exhaust needs a remap and dyno time to work with my bike but I have no desire to spend that sort of money and so I’ll stick with the OEM exhaust for now. The new exhaust was 3kg lighter than the OEM, but I couldn’t really feel the difference. I was planning to use the DB killer but I fell in love with the sound of thunder without it! And yes I took a chance on it, it hasn’t worked out and that is usually the way I do things 😊
With the windscreens, neither of them were perfect but the taller one caused a lot of turbulence and I couldn’t use it. The smaller screen does cause a bit of buffeting on the top of my helmet but it does have the effect of keeping some wind off my shoulders and also the screen provides protection for the instruments and so overall it’s worth keeping on the bike.
I never really done long distance travels on a bike apart from a couple of trips to Spain and France. Currently I rarely ride more than 200 miles in a day but I do hope to ride some longer distances in the next month or two before we move into Autumn. My bike is up to about 3700 miles now… this is awkward because my motorbike insurance has a mileage limit of 4000 per year! The insurance doesn’t renew till next April and so I’ve got to modify my policy! But it’s all good, I’m really enjoying this bike so far! No regrets of selling the S1000R - this bike suits me better 👍
@@RikkyTang Thanks for responding. I just watched the video about your exhaust and losing power with the aftermarket exhaust on it. That is interesting because I have read and heard that aftermarket exhausts can be put on a bike with out re-mapping or using a power commander and there could be some horse power gains and of course a better sound. However, I was under the impression (which is the second line of reasoning) that if you need to remap the the system and or power commander. I did use a power commander on a Ducati 998 that I had along time ago with and aftermarket exhaust. (Remus). But, I am still surprised at the amount of loss of power that you experienced. I think also re-mapping the system and power commander is a way to avoid back firing etc. Did you put a lot of money into the upgraded exhaust and what will you do with it now? Regarding the windscreen are you going to ride with out it now and not use it at all? Should you use and even taller windscreen to get better coverage? I am interested in considering a R 1250 R and when the 2022 come out here in the US I will take a look at it and go for a test ride. That bike has been on my mind for a long time. Thanks
@@p-dub7422 Hi there, yes there are differing opinions, claims and experiences when it comes to fitting aftermarket exhausts. You’ll see a lot of adverts saying “no adjustments or remapping required” but then when you look at the small print it’ll say “for optimum performance a remap may be required”. Frustrating! But in my case if I had noticed the power drop off straight away I would have immediately removed the end can, but I just didn’t notice it and I was too busy enjoying the noise it made! Also I knew that this can wasn’t designed specifically for the 1250 and so I know I took a chance on buying it. The exhaust cost me £350… not sure what I’ll do with it now… I did try to have the DB killer welded back together but the guy who I asked to do it said that in his opinion it wouldn’t make a difference to how the bike would perform and he didn’t want to take my money! I may still get it welded up anyway (or buy a replacement if I can find one cheap) because I would like to know for sure.
When it comes to popping/backfiring after an exhaust is fitted, to my knowledge that is usually fixed by disabling/removing the PAIR system. That was certainly the case with my Bandit 1250 but things may have moved on since then!
I’ll be keeping the sport screen on - overall it’s slightly better than not having the screen at all, and also 1) it keeps bugs of the back of the instrument panel and 2) I can mount my GoPro behind it which keeps the bugs of that lens too. I do not want to start buying alternative screens though… I went through that with the Bandit and I went through five different screens without ever finding one that worked for me. The current screen is good enough, just about!
The R1250R is an underrated bike I think… more torque than a KTM Superduke 1290 but designed more for real world speeds - I think you’ll enjoy it!
@@RikkyTang HI did you think about getting and Akrapovic? I wonder if that aftermarket was selected if you it would have worked out better because BMW does sell some of it bikes with it on it. Also, I notice that you have a Givi on the rear seat rather than BMW side cases why did you make that selection and thanks! Would you consider the side cases that you can get for the bike the big one.
@@p-dub7422 I haven't considered the Akrapovic mainly due to the looks - it doesn't look like a "true" Akrapovic of the past in my eyes... too big and bulky! If I had the money I would probably have an SC Project exhaust 😊
I prefer top boxes to side cases... rigid side cases make the rear of the bike very wide and I think I will hit them against something one day when a taking tight turn... against a parked car or a post! And I'd have to remove them before I left or returned to my house because the entry to the rear of the house where I park the bike is very tight.