You just like to stir the pot lol. The first thing I want to say is the direct injection is why the 6.6 can have a higher compression ratio than you typically see for stuff that can run on 87. So you can’t use that one when mentioning the Ford requiring premium to get max performance and for towing. And that’s typical Ford too just so you know. They are the king of marketing because they leave out the fine print stuff lol. Second thing is the gearing again lol. I mean it’s not going to help in these runs. The 6 speed Chevy is the perfect example. It just hits 60 mph in 2nd gear with a 3.73. A 4.10 or 4.30 would make it shift to 3rd and you can guarantee it would be slower. But anyways, I agree they should offer the option for two reasons. One because it would truly be a benefit if what you’re doing is going to keep you in 1st gear. And two so all the guys that think it would perform better could get it. But I can assure you it will not. And lastly the Ram should have been 4th place, and a distant 4th at that. Now if you’re just going off this test 0-60 and fuel mileage ok fine, but overall it’s a distant last place. It would be nice to see you get to do a towing test with these trucks where you could bring up towing stability and such.
@@JetTech1966 lol. You learn how much transmission gearing works when you go from pulling with 6 and 8 speed autos to a 4 speed auto and vice versa. A couple years ago I had a 2021 1500 Silverado 5.3 with an 8 speed and a 3.23 rear gear and I could do 60 mph on all my grades. Coming home from the races I had a lifter failure. So luckily my dad was driving his truck that night too, which is a 2008 1500 Silverado 5.3 but with a 4 speed auto and 3.73 rear gear. So we hooked his up to my trailer and on my 8% grade I could only do about 45-50 mph and that was with the truck shifting to 1st gear at times. So these guys just don’t understand how the transmission gearing is working. A 6 speed makes a huge difference but the 10 speeds (and 8 speeds for that matter) just about render a 4.10 or 4.30 useless for just about every scenario. Pulling exclusively in 1st gear would be the exception.
I've owned trucks by all 4 companies. Reliability, towing and MPG is most important to me. If RAM had a 10 speed transmission. I'd be A RAM guy. Love their trucks. I've got a GMC 3500 now and really like it. FORD on the other hand was garbage. I've owned 4 FORD'S in my life. They were all trash. In fact I had to go all the way to lemon law on the last one. Will never own another FORD ever.
The 10 speed is why the other trucks suck ass.. the transmissions are always shifting and they have tons of trans problems. I work at a GM dealership and the Trans is shared with ford. It’s a bad design and is always updating. Until They fix this they are all trash besides the ram right now. Even the 8 speed rams suck compared to old schoo 6 speed. Gas milage doesn’t matter your buying a huge gas motor truck. You want mpg then get a diesel
If you are buying a truck, especially a 1 ton, fuel mileage is not what anyone should be looking for, the truck is designed to work, if you want fuel mileage go buy a car
The GM 1/2 ton 5.3 and 6.2 still use AFM / DFM. During the Covid times some of the trucks were built without the software to run it but all the ones being built now unfortunately have it. It’s not going anywhere because of our wonderful EPA / government.
I was wanting a 5th gen 2500 Cummins but I am thinking it may be overkill for what I do. it seems there 6.4 is a capable engine for towing. I was worried about the lower fuel economy of the 6.4 in the power wagon but when comparing the price of gasoline vs diesel it may not be much of a difference price wise.
The power wagon has lower tow ratings due to the suspension so keep that in mind. I have a 2019 Ram 2500 6.4 and haul a 15k tractor and trailer to our property from time to time, it work very well. I have a video on my page if you want to look. Granted we're at low elevation and we don't have huge hills to contend with. The 7.3 ford is a dang good option as well. Driving both, I like the ride of the Ram better as a daily driver. Good luck finding what suits YOU best for YOU do!
Hey What and how frequent are you towing ? Do you think you need a diesel ? I’ve had both gassers and diesel’s. Overkill is sometimes worse. Diesels need to work to get its full potential. You don’t want them to just sit around until you need to tow something for maybe few times a year. But on other hand you have the money. I’m older and towed frequently but my best tow vehicle was a GMC K30 350, 4 speed , 410 posi rear.
Very few people actually NEED a diesel nowadays, these gas trucks have a lot more grunt than what people give them credit for. Even a 6.2 f350 ford can tow a 14k trailer quite easily. In my opinion, unless you’re almost always Hooked up to 15k plus trailers, gas is almost always the better option. Diesels are just so expensive and typically have more dumb problems. (And I’m a diesel guy)
Really enjoyed the video. We want to get a 30’ travel trailer at around 10k GVWR and our Chevy Tahoe (2WD) is just not suited to the task. I’m not certain we need a beast, and mileage is super important, especially here in CA. Heading west out of San Diego, we go over the mountain with substantial grade too. It sounds like the 2500 with 6 spd may be a good option? Thanks for the info. Subscribed.
Greetings JB. EXCELLENT comparison. All engines with good performance and their areas for improvement. My favorite RAM; but my wallet and desire by performance is Chevy. 😮
Been binge watching your vids, and being a Chevy fan, maybe I am biased here, but I don't see enough of a difference in any of the trucks performance that would change my mind. I did like your views on gas vs diesel in another vid. I think many of us don't put on enough miles to warrant buying a diesel and the issues that come with one. I also live in the Black Hills of South Dakota, so we do have extreme temps and mile high altitude. Another biggie for me is that fuel management system that I believe is bad for the engine. The 10 speed Allison is also a plus. I did find out that the Allison tranny is in name only as they are built by GM under license, which I'm not sure makes any difference. Anyways, thanks for the vids as I am in the market for a new Chevy LTZ or High Country. Yep, I'm spoiled. I have an LTZ and I'm not gonna settle for anything less. Prices are coming down, so I am watching vids and paying attention to prices.
Love this content, next I know hard for you to do, but which one tows the best? I follow another channel that put the 2022 7.3 against the 2024 6.6 on around a 170 mile tow loop. The chevy won in every category I think except on paper, oh and then the 7.3 had lifter issues soon after with just over 6,000 miles. I love the 7.3 and curious on your thoughts on if the 2023 7.3 would be better competition vs the 2022
I was reading that a hellcat oil pump that eliminates the oil starvation problems. Fits all the hemi motors . Can make the computer throw codes because of more oil flow.
To be honest, HD trucks are not built for 0-60 runs. I have a Chevy HD with the 10 speed transmission and it feels slow. But, with this said, it feels soooo stable towing. I can tow my 32 foot trailer at 70 mph and it feels great.
I don't want to keep adding channels, but you get in and start, you keep going, you don't drag the content around like a sick dog on a leash... some guys just can't get started or keep it going. Good job Sir and thanks
Great test - really appreciate your efforts here giving us your honest feedback and concluding that the Ford is leading in these specific areas. Let me admit now that I am a Ford fanboy so I like hearing it for sure. I also own a 2020 F350 Diesel and I would definitely go to bat for that truck, it’s a beast and I love it. Couple things about the Ford, the 8 foot bed does come with the 48 gal tank, and I know you know that but maybe the audience doesn’t. Also, there’s a couple areas I cannot overlook about the 7.3 engine. The engine breaking is not the best and certainly for towing safety and you’ve even made a point of it in earlier videos, it’s seriously lacking. Lifter issues appear to be resolved in the 2023 models but that’s out there too. So I think there are some real positives that may sway someone from ford to the 2024 Chevy with the 10-speed. I think it’s really a great platform and probably my choice if I were looking for a gasser today. After Ford works the kinks out of the 7.3, I think and as you pointed out, should be a clear winner if all else remains the same. It definitely has a lot more potential. Thanks again for the good content!
Man I love my 2022 3500 High country Silverado! Aside from towing I’m getting around 19-22MPG on the freeway going about 70-80mphs. When towing my trailer which weighs around 9000lbs I’m getting about 12-14mpg going about 65-70pmh.
My Ram 6.4 3.73 gearing was way too tall (2015 with 6-speed). I of course love aggressive tires, but there was no way I was going to tolerate even worse converter slip off the line. Felt too slushy even on OEM 275/70 tires. 1st gear went to like 40mph. I went with 285/60s and it locks up much easier now and I can actually use 2nd gear around town. 4.10s or 4.30s are a must on these trucks if you want to do something like 35s. Function before form.
0-60 and 40-70 tests towing a trailer would be really cool between these. 0-60 for fun and 40-70 to simulate merging onto the highway with your camper.
you should record 40 to 80 mph, 30 to 70 or so. that w'd give a better picture about raw performance especially while towing, launch is not that important to most people.
GM needs to bring back the 472. I had on in a 69 cad. 19.4 mpg hyw. They also had a truck engine 472 in big gas rigs. Had one in early 70s on a single Axel big truck used for 28 ft trailers around town.
Can you do a video showcasing the new projector headlights on the chevy. Curious to know if they are much better than the previous model.. also like to see how it stacks up against the ford's projectors
126k HARD miles on my Ram 1500 Tons of towing and hauling done and MDS is not an issue. Also would loved to see the Ram be a 2500 as I feel gassers are a bit outclassed in a 3500 platform.
JB I love them all. We have a 2020 7.3, had a 22 6.6 traded for a 24 6.6 10 speed...and I drive the 7.3 as my daily driver. It still pulls with a load better than both the GM products. Make sure your air cleaner is clean or new and the intake is clean...then run your test again. I love the 24 GMC for the ride quality so we will see if GM will up the HP on the 25.
Recently watched a video from some guys that did trans tuning for the Allison 10speed. And to add to this the Allison’s shift points Atleast paired with the duramax are dreadful. And rob a lot of power between shifts. However. Keep in your mind your truck was significantly heavier being a high country. I’m curious what the numbers would be in a WT or LT with the new trani
JB, I commented the other afternoon about you reviewing the same Ram 2500 that I was looking at in Thurmont. Welllll… I also found a new ‘24 7.3 F-250 on the Rt.15 corridor for the same price. Given that you’ve driven both…including one of those trucks being the literal same truck, which one would you suggest for more daily driving and the occasional tow?
Sweet breakdown! I think your High Country is being held back due to it's weight. It is 300 pounds heaver than the next heaviest and 900 and 1000 pounds heavier than the next two! I talked to some friends who work at a local Fire Dept that has a couple 7.3 gas Super Dutys. They also complained about the 10 speed hunting for gears. They said administrators told them to run regular unleaded in them due to increased cost of premium. My work F-150 10 speed seems fine, no noticeable gear hunting. Keep up the good work!
I traded my 21 Ford 7.3 for a 23 GMC 6.6. I love everything about my GMC over the Ford. I test drove the 24 GMC 6.6 with the Alison and i definitely prefer the 6 speed over the 10. Hopefully GMC ups the power on the 6.6 for 2025 or it'll be hard to trade up.
I’m not biased towards any of the trucks you tested but the 2024 Chevrolet being right at #1,000 heavier than your first and second place pick definitely skews the other numbers to it’s disadvantage. Just look at how close the numbers were on the two trucks that had nearly identical weight.
I think ford conserved a lot with the 7.3 and can easily up the power if the others do. Was hoping for the 2023 they bump it to 450hp 500ftlbs though 🤷♂️
The 7.3s are failing left and right with cam and lifter delamination. They also have a horrible cylinder deck coolant port design that will cause huge issues with over 80k miles. Not to mention their horrible Jack chain type oil pump
@@Billybob50119can you provide some data for this? Don’t really care for stories but actual numbers would be nice. I remember all the similar myths that existed about RAM’s and that stuck has lasted me a decade.
I would bet if he used a 2500 Silverado that was 800-1000lbs lighter the 2024 Chevy would of had noticeably better numbers. Those one tons are just heavy beasts!
scoring trucks based on how quickly they accelerate isnt really a great test when they are built for towing. chevy hd will always accelerate slower than others because they heavily derate the motor in lower gears to save the transmission when there is weight behind the truck that is why they dont go through transmissions like ford and ram
I'm looking at the Chevy 2500 10 spd for my next truck. I've owned Ford and Ram my whole life and prefer the Rams slightly more due to fit and finish, suspension setup, transmission, and the steering seems more direct. My 19 F-150 shifted like straight sh!t and felt like a boat in turns. I liked the 5.0 though.
One of your earlier videos showed that the 6.4/3.73 was faster 0-60 than the 4.10 bc of the extra shift required by the 4.10. The 6 speed 6.6 is rated ahead of the 6.4 w a ZF transmission??? 😂😂😂😂
Race car guy ….towing stacker 2 car trailer…..and putting maximum 7-8 thousand miles a year on truck…rest of time stored inside floor heated garage that you could probably eat on because it’s so clean… what 2020 to 2024 used truck would you get … looking at Silverado 2500 (2020) HD used very clean with 30k miles ….its black on black…. All my cars are black including trailer so the color is right… what do you think? They say oil consumption issues? True? Thanks ! Comments suggestions welcome… helps that one of my track cars is a C6 (2009) ZRI …have other brands as well… my daily is a Yukon for kids and Costco runs …have farm (not farmer) rent land … barns converted to new builds with 5000 sq foot garage…
I owned all 3 in the last 4 years, and I know for a fact that the chevy 10 speed gets better fuel economy then the 6 speed. Also I live in one of the worst road conditions in all of America. The chevy rides much better then the ford. Also pulling 12000 pounds the Ram has the best power.
Hey morning nice breakdown. I think it’s going to take some time to sync the 10 speeds. The Ram probably would have come in first if it wasn’t for the cylinder reduction. It makes the engine float around undecided. I like the 8 speed. I’m told 10 speed is for better fuel efficiency and emissions control. You could find an older Ford 7.3 International or 5.9 Cummins or Duramax pre 2007. Year one owner trucks be better
I have a Ram with the 6.4, 8sp and 4.10 rear, great truck and if they would bump the horsepower and towing I would buy another. Instead getting the 7.3 in a Ford F-350.
I had 2019 Tradesman 2500, crew shortbed, 6.4, 4.10 , everything heavy duty . Loved it. Total out during accident. I reordered another 2023 but when it came in they did the market value increase. I opted for F250 , 6.2, 6 speed with more options. It was on lot late build. Got great price very happy. I do like the Ram front
@@josephpuchel6497 that's such bs. You ordered your truck for a certain price and they raise it when they get it? That's why we should be able to buy straight from the factory.
Pedal commander doesn't do anything other than allow you to adjust throttle sensitivity on the fly. It provides exactly a zero horsepower/torque increase though. It's for driving dynamics, not actual performance. If you want an actual performance bump you'll need to get a full on performance tune.
If they would put that in their cargo vans I'd be interested but I'm going to have to go with a Chevy 6.6 l Cargo Van. I would never consider a Dodge Chrysler product.
Put 10000 lbs trailer behind all those trucks and 10 watch with the results are, 6.6 10 speed is made to tow, it doesn't skip shift like the gas ford 10 speed
I like your feed, but the way you are comparing these trucks isn't relevant. These are heavy duty trucks, they are purpose built and drag racing ,0 to 60, quarter mile , is not the purpose fo any heavy duty truck. On top of that we don't know gear ratios and multiple other factors that can be ordered at time of build , thet would make it fit a specific need. All that set aside these are work trucks not luxury vehicles
Fords 1st and 2nd gear ratio is setup to get the trailer moving then it gives it all the mustard after that. It will always lose off the line and scream by everything on top end. 7.3 and 6.7
JB, this test can’t cover what pro athletes call “the intangibles”. It’s hard to test confidence a certain truck gives the owner, how you feel towing, and I’m sure most will agree. We are all biased to some brand or other, we’re guys. “My xxxxxxx will smoke your xxxxxxx in a 1/4” and so on. Comfort, visibility, it’s all subjective. Besides, my f450 will pull the axles off that pile of junk you call a truck lmao.
Take the Chevy trans out of the ferd now it's on the side of the road. THATS THEE FERD BELONGS !!!! Now what do they got!!😮 they steal off every one ferd about Mazda used and dumped. Volvo used and dumped. 😮
6.6 is direct injected and that MAY cause issues in the future no one really has 100k on those engines yet.....and fords 7.3..there r video all over online with engine failures....Rams 6.4 although not the most powerful is probably the most reliable engine....but if the 6.6 proves reliable that may be good too
You just like to stir the pot lol.
The first thing I want to say is the direct injection is why the 6.6 can have a higher compression ratio than you typically see for stuff that can run on 87. So you can’t use that one when mentioning the Ford requiring premium to get max performance and for towing. And that’s typical Ford too just so you know. They are the king of marketing because they leave out the fine print stuff lol.
Second thing is the gearing again lol. I mean it’s not going to help in these runs. The 6 speed Chevy is the perfect example. It just hits 60 mph in 2nd gear with a 3.73. A 4.10 or 4.30 would make it shift to 3rd and you can guarantee it would be slower. But anyways, I agree they should offer the option for two reasons. One because it would truly be a benefit if what you’re doing is going to keep you in 1st gear. And two so all the guys that think it would perform better could get it. But I can assure you it will not.
And lastly the Ram should have been 4th place, and a distant 4th at that. Now if you’re just going off this test 0-60 and fuel mileage ok fine, but overall it’s a distant last place.
It would be nice to see you get to do a towing test with these trucks where you could bring up towing stability and such.
I think once again you read my mind....
@@JetTech1966 lol. You learn how much transmission gearing works when you go from pulling with 6 and 8 speed autos to a 4 speed auto and vice versa. A couple years ago I had a 2021 1500 Silverado 5.3 with an 8 speed and a 3.23 rear gear and I could do 60 mph on all my grades. Coming home from the races I had a lifter failure. So luckily my dad was driving his truck that night too, which is a 2008 1500 Silverado 5.3 but with a 4 speed auto and 3.73 rear gear. So we hooked his up to my trailer and on my 8% grade I could only do about 45-50 mph and that was with the truck shifting to 1st gear at times.
So these guys just don’t understand how the transmission gearing is working. A 6 speed makes a huge difference but the 10 speeds (and 8 speeds for that matter) just about render a 4.10 or 4.30 useless for just about every scenario. Pulling exclusively in 1st gear would be the exception.
@@matthewanderson9912 And you read my mind again....are we related??? LOL...
@@JetTech1966 🤣
@@matthewanderson9912 Either our brains are connected somehow or we need to do a DNA test...I've done one....lol...
I received my 2024 2500 gas with 200 miles hit the road to Colorado from Houston 3200 miles later I love it
Bro. Love your energy and attitude with this review. Thank you for your time on this!
I've owned trucks by all 4 companies. Reliability, towing and MPG is most important to me. If RAM had a 10 speed transmission. I'd be A RAM guy. Love their trucks. I've got a GMC 3500 now and really like it. FORD on the other hand was garbage. I've owned 4 FORD'S in my life. They were all trash. In fact I had to go all the way to lemon law on the last one. Will never own another FORD ever.
The 10 speed is why the other trucks suck ass.. the transmissions are always shifting and they have tons of trans problems. I work at a GM dealership and the Trans is shared with ford. It’s a bad design and is always updating. Until
They fix this they are all trash besides the ram right now. Even the 8 speed rams suck compared to old schoo 6 speed. Gas milage doesn’t matter your buying a huge gas motor truck. You want mpg then get a diesel
Frl fuck a ford
If you are buying a truck, especially a 1 ton, fuel mileage is not what anyone should be looking for, the truck is designed to work, if you want fuel mileage go buy a car
I feel the same why about ram and chevy
The ZF 8HP75 is superior to the 10R140, by far. I've owned both, I will never buy another truck with a Fotd transmission.
Great honest video with good choices of HD combos and outstanding honest review with zero bias. Good job man!
Great video. Excellent unbiased opinion. You've got a new subscriber. Keep it up!
The GM 1/2 ton 5.3 and 6.2 still use AFM / DFM. During the Covid times some of the trucks were built without the software to run it but all the ones being built now unfortunately have it.
It’s not going anywhere because of our wonderful EPA / government.
This is a 3500 dude… the 6.6 gas doesn’t have cylinder deactivation.
@@xGR1MxREAPERxno shit but other trucks were mentioned and what I said was true.
Seems relevant.
You need to do this list.
Gen 1 L5P
Gen 2 L5P
Standard and H/O Power Stroke
Standard and H/O Cummins
I was wanting a 5th gen 2500 Cummins but I am thinking it may be overkill for what I do. it seems there 6.4 is a capable engine for towing. I was worried about the lower fuel economy of the 6.4 in the power wagon but when comparing the price of gasoline vs diesel it may not be much of a difference price wise.
I'm thinking about how the Ford 7.3 wants premium when you're towing and wondering if that really hurts it's "ranking" against the Powerstroke 🤔
Get the Cummins
The power wagon has lower tow ratings due to the suspension so keep that in mind. I have a 2019 Ram 2500 6.4 and haul a 15k tractor and trailer to our property from time to time, it work very well. I have a video on my page if you want to look. Granted we're at low elevation and we don't have huge hills to contend with. The 7.3 ford is a dang good option as well. Driving both, I like the ride of the Ram better as a daily driver. Good luck finding what suits YOU best for YOU do!
Hey What and how frequent are you towing ? Do you think you need a diesel ? I’ve had both gassers and diesel’s. Overkill is sometimes worse. Diesels need to work to get its full potential. You don’t want them to just sit around until you need to tow something for maybe few times a year. But on other hand you have the money. I’m older and towed frequently but my best tow vehicle was a GMC K30 350, 4 speed , 410 posi rear.
Very few people actually NEED a diesel nowadays, these gas trucks have a lot more grunt than what people give them credit for. Even a 6.2 f350 ford can tow a 14k trailer quite easily. In my opinion, unless you’re almost always Hooked up to 15k plus trailers, gas is almost always the better option. Diesels are just so expensive and typically have more dumb problems. (And I’m a diesel guy)
Just got our 2023 F250 Lariat Tremor! Ready to take the camper out. Big up grade from our 2016 f150 3.5 tt Lariat.
Considering the cost and mpg of each the 7.3 is the best choice to me
When I start that 7.3 on that day, I can tell it sounds a little funny with regular fuel.
Great comparisons of the trucks JB. This was a very good and very informative video.
Real world review. Changed my perspective on truck shopping...
Really enjoyed the video. We want to get a 30’ travel trailer at around 10k GVWR and our Chevy Tahoe (2WD) is just not suited to the task. I’m not certain we need a beast, and mileage is super important, especially here in CA. Heading west out of San Diego, we go over the mountain with substantial grade too. It sounds like the 2500 with 6 spd may be a good option? Thanks for the info. Subscribed.
Greetings JB.
EXCELLENT comparison.
All engines with good performance and their areas for improvement.
My favorite RAM; but my wallet and desire by performance is Chevy. 😮
Been binge watching your vids, and being a Chevy fan, maybe I am biased here, but I don't see enough of a difference in any of the trucks performance that would change my mind. I did like your views on gas vs diesel in another vid. I think many of us don't put on enough miles to warrant buying a diesel and the issues that come with one. I also live in the Black Hills of South Dakota, so we do have extreme temps and mile high altitude. Another biggie for me is that fuel management system that I believe is bad for the engine. The 10 speed Allison is also a plus. I did find out that the Allison tranny is in name only as they are built by GM under license, which I'm not sure makes any difference. Anyways, thanks for the vids as I am in the market for a new Chevy LTZ or High Country. Yep, I'm spoiled. I have an LTZ and I'm not gonna settle for anything less. Prices are coming down, so I am watching vids and paying attention to prices.
Love this content, next I know hard for you to do, but which one tows the best? I follow another channel that put the 2022 7.3 against the 2024 6.6 on around a 170 mile tow loop. The chevy won in every category I think except on paper, oh and then the 7.3 had lifter issues soon after with just over 6,000 miles. I love the 7.3 and curious on your thoughts on if the 2023 7.3 would be better competition vs the 2022
I was reading that a hellcat oil pump that eliminates the oil starvation problems. Fits all the hemi motors . Can make the computer throw codes because of more oil flow.
Great content my guy!
To be honest, HD trucks are not built for 0-60 runs. I have a Chevy HD with the 10 speed transmission and it feels slow. But, with this said, it feels soooo stable towing. I can tow my 32 foot trailer at 70 mph and it feels great.
I don't want to keep adding channels, but you get in and start, you keep going, you don't drag the content around like a sick dog on a leash... some guys just can't get started or keep it going. Good job Sir and thanks
Appreciate the honesty.
Thank you JB
Great test - really appreciate your efforts here giving us your honest feedback and concluding that the Ford is leading in these specific areas. Let me admit now that I am a Ford fanboy so I like hearing it for sure. I also own a 2020 F350 Diesel and I would definitely go to bat for that truck, it’s a beast and I love it. Couple things about the Ford, the 8 foot bed does come with the 48 gal tank, and I know you know that but maybe the audience doesn’t. Also, there’s a couple areas I cannot overlook about the 7.3 engine. The engine breaking is not the best and certainly for towing safety and you’ve even made a point of it in earlier videos, it’s seriously lacking. Lifter issues appear to be resolved in the 2023 models but that’s out there too. So I think there are some real positives that may sway someone from ford to the 2024 Chevy with the 10-speed. I think it’s really a great platform and probably my choice if I were looking for a gasser today. After Ford works the kinks out of the 7.3, I think and as you pointed out, should be a clear winner if all else remains the same. It definitely has a lot more potential. Thanks again for the good content!
Man I love my 2022 3500 High country Silverado! Aside from towing I’m getting around 19-22MPG on the freeway going about 70-80mphs. When towing my trailer which weighs around 9000lbs I’m getting about 12-14mpg going about 65-70pmh.
My Ram 6.4 3.73 gearing was way too tall (2015 with 6-speed). I of course love aggressive tires, but there was no way I was going to tolerate even worse converter slip off the line. Felt too slushy even on OEM 275/70 tires. 1st gear went to like 40mph. I went with 285/60s and it locks up much easier now and I can actually use 2nd gear around town.
4.10s or 4.30s are a must on these trucks if you want to do something like 35s. Function before form.
0-60 and 40-70 tests towing a trailer would be really cool between these. 0-60 for fun and 40-70 to simulate merging onto the highway with your camper.
Thank you for doing this video
I’ve owned them all it’s how you maintain them and also it’s the way a truck makes you feel they are all good and all have there bad points
Which one these is best for towing dump trailer ?
you should record 40 to 80 mph, 30 to 70 or so. that w'd give a better picture about raw performance especially while towing, launch is not that important to most people.
GM needs to bring back the 472. I had on in a 69 cad. 19.4 mpg hyw. They also had a truck engine 472 in big gas rigs. Had one in early 70s on a single Axel big truck used for 28 ft trailers around town.
Awesome review! Entertaining and informative
Been watching for a while... subscribed. Have a great week!
Can you do a video showcasing the new projector headlights on the chevy. Curious to know if they are much better than the previous model.. also like to see how it stacks up against the ford's projectors
126k HARD miles on my Ram 1500 Tons of towing and hauling done and MDS is not an issue. Also would loved to see the Ram be a 2500 as I feel gassers are a bit outclassed in a 3500 platform.
What is the Ford F-250 the 6.8 l or the 7.3 L?
I had a 6.2 before that. 6.2 is faster but I love the 6.6 for pulling my camper 9000lb 30 ft
JB I love them all. We have a 2020 7.3, had a 22 6.6 traded for a 24 6.6 10 speed...and I drive the 7.3 as my daily driver. It still pulls with a load better than both the GM products. Make sure your air cleaner is clean or new and the intake is clean...then run your test again. I love the 24 GMC for the ride quality so we will see if GM will up the HP on the 25.
Recently watched a video from some guys that did trans tuning for the Allison 10speed. And to add to this the Allison’s shift points Atleast paired with the duramax are dreadful. And rob a lot of power between shifts. However. Keep in your mind your truck was significantly heavier being a high country. I’m curious what the numbers would be in a WT or LT with the new trani
Liked the video, BUT, you need to pick trucks w same rear ratios to get true comparison #s. Pick 3.73, 4.10 or whatever is common to all of them.
Do you think it would be cool if Ford introduce the wall injection on their 7.3?
I haven’t heard of wall injection
JB, I commented the other afternoon about you reviewing the same Ram 2500 that I was looking at in Thurmont. Welllll… I also found a new ‘24 7.3 F-250 on the Rt.15 corridor for the same price. Given that you’ve driven both…including one of those trucks being the literal same truck, which one would you suggest for more daily driving and the occasional tow?
The torque management must be crazy on the Chevy
I love the new gassers kinda want a dually gasser
Sweet breakdown! I think your High Country is being held back due to it's weight. It is 300 pounds heaver than the next heaviest and 900 and 1000 pounds heavier than the next two! I talked to some friends who work at a local Fire Dept that has a couple 7.3 gas Super Dutys. They also complained about the 10 speed hunting for gears. They said administrators told them to run regular unleaded in them due to increased cost of premium. My work F-150 10 speed seems fine, no noticeable gear hunting. Keep up the good work!
Be nice if u could put all 3 on a dyno and run them
I traded my 21 Ford 7.3 for a 23 GMC 6.6. I love everything about my GMC over the Ford. I test drove the 24 GMC 6.6 with the Alison and i definitely prefer the 6 speed over the 10. Hopefully GMC ups the power on the 6.6 for 2025 or it'll be hard to trade up.
What does the 6 do over the 10 that you prefer it? I have a 21 but thought the 10 would be an uograde.
@@actZR900 I like that the 6 speed keeps you in a higher RPM going up and down grades. The 10 seems to hunt a bit.
@chadmiller6487 that makes sense. I love mine but next will probably be a diesel lol
Same here I'm a mechanic and have owned drove and worked on all of them and I love my 23 2500 hd 6.6 6 speed
Great review. Keep the haters busy. 😂
I’m not biased towards any of the trucks you tested but the 2024 Chevrolet being right at #1,000 heavier than your first and second place pick definitely skews the other numbers to it’s disadvantage. Just look at how close the numbers were on the two trucks that had nearly identical weight.
I think ford conserved a lot with the 7.3 and can easily up the power if the others do. Was hoping for the 2023 they bump it to 450hp 500ftlbs though 🤷♂️
The 7.3s are failing left and right with cam and lifter delamination. They also have a horrible cylinder deck coolant port design that will cause huge issues with over 80k miles. Not to mention their horrible Jack chain type oil pump
Have 3 f250 with 7.3 tremors for over 2 years now not a single issue.
JB is spot on for the tranny though. Town driving it can hunt and bug the driver, towing and hwy it’s perfect.
@@Billybob50119gm trucks have been failing lifters since 07 and these new ones before the first oil change 😂 move along kid
@@Billybob50119can you provide some data for this? Don’t really care for stories but actual numbers would be nice. I remember all the similar myths that existed about RAM’s and that stuck has lasted me a decade.
I’d like to see a longevity test where you can run these things 300 thousand miles and not run into tons of problems.
Good stuff, tell it how it is.
Looks like what’s killing the 24 Silverado is the weight.. definitely interesting, great content keep up the awesome work!
I would bet if he used a 2500 Silverado that was 800-1000lbs lighter the 2024 Chevy would of had noticeably better numbers. Those one tons are just heavy beasts!
gm also heavily derates the motors in lower gears to protect the trans
scoring trucks based on how quickly they accelerate isnt really a great test when they are built for towing. chevy hd will always accelerate slower than others because they heavily derate the motor in lower gears to save the transmission when there is weight behind the truck that is why they dont go through transmissions like ford and ram
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I'm looking at the Chevy 2500 10 spd for my next truck. I've owned Ford and Ram my whole life and prefer the Rams slightly more due to fit and finish, suspension setup, transmission, and the steering seems more direct. My 19 F-150 shifted like straight sh!t and felt like a boat in turns. I liked the 5.0 though.
Great video on those Trucks, Go Ford!!
Awesome video. I feel the 6.8 ford should be in the test not the 7.3.
I'd like to point out that the fords transmission learns the more you drive it so driving a brand new truck off the lot doesn't know how you drive
One of your earlier videos showed that the 6.4/3.73 was faster 0-60 than the 4.10 bc of the extra shift required by the 4.10.
The 6 speed 6.6 is rated ahead of the 6.4 w a ZF transmission??? 😂😂😂😂
Race car guy ….towing stacker 2 car trailer…..and putting maximum 7-8 thousand miles a year on truck…rest of time stored inside floor heated garage that you could probably eat on because it’s so clean… what 2020 to 2024 used truck would you get … looking at Silverado 2500 (2020) HD used very clean with 30k miles ….its black on black…. All my cars are black including trailer so the color is right… what do you think? They say oil consumption issues? True? Thanks ! Comments suggestions welcome… helps that one of my track cars is a C6 (2009) ZRI …have other brands as well… my daily is a Yukon for kids and Costco runs …have farm (not farmer) rent land … barns converted to new builds with 5000 sq foot garage…
I wonder who will be the first to electrify Hds. The big block v8s could see similar torque numbers to diesels if equipped properly.
Doesn’t matter who does it. They’ll flop worse than the electric 1500’s.
I owned all 3 in the last 4 years, and I know for a fact that the chevy 10 speed gets better fuel economy then the 6 speed. Also I live in one of the worst road conditions in all of America. The chevy rides much better then the ford. Also pulling 12000 pounds the Ram has the best power.
Hey morning nice breakdown. I think it’s going to take some time to sync the 10 speeds. The Ram probably would have come in first if it wasn’t for the cylinder reduction. It makes the engine float around undecided. I like the 8 speed. I’m told 10 speed is for better fuel efficiency and emissions control. You could find an older Ford 7.3 International or 5.9 Cummins or Duramax pre 2007. Year one owner trucks be better
I have a Ram with the 6.4, 8sp and 4.10 rear, great truck and if they would bump the horsepower and towing I would buy another. Instead getting the 7.3 in a Ford F-350.
I had 2019 Tradesman 2500, crew shortbed, 6.4, 4.10 , everything heavy duty . Loved it. Total out during accident. I reordered another 2023 but when it came in they did the market value increase.
I opted for F250 , 6.2, 6 speed with more options. It was on lot late build. Got great price very happy. I do like the Ram front
@@josephpuchel6497 that's such bs. You ordered your truck for a certain price and they raise it when they get it? That's why we should be able to buy straight from the factory.
Yes it’s bullshit But I found a better deal on another truck and happy
I test drove the Ram 2500 and that truck felt clumsey to me. The GM truck 2500 was nicer as and was better than my old F-250 6speed 6.2 gasser.
Put a pedal commander on your 2024 and I bet it is a lot faster off the line.
Pedal commander doesn't do anything other than allow you to adjust throttle sensitivity on the fly. It provides exactly a zero horsepower/torque increase though. It's for driving dynamics, not actual performance. If you want an actual performance bump you'll need to get a full on performance tune.
Ford all the time its a no brainer. 😊
If they would put that in their cargo vans I'd be interested but I'm going to have to go with a Chevy 6.6 l Cargo Van. I would never consider a Dodge Chrysler product.
Yes, Ford buyers have no brains....lol 😅
I hate to say this but if I was going to buy a gas rig it would be the Ford
Put 10000 lbs trailer behind all those trucks and 10 watch with the results are, 6.6 10 speed is made to tow, it doesn't skip shift like the gas ford 10 speed
I like your feed, but the way you are comparing these trucks isn't relevant. These are heavy duty trucks, they are purpose built and drag racing ,0 to 60, quarter mile , is not the purpose fo any heavy duty truck. On top of that we don't know gear ratios and multiple other factors that can be ordered at time of build , thet would make it fit a specific need. All that set aside these are work trucks not luxury vehicles
Fords 1st and 2nd gear ratio is setup to get the trailer moving then it gives it all the mustard after that. It will always lose off the line and scream by everything on top end. 7.3 and 6.7
Can tune that out, but it lights the tires up too easy when you do 😂
It spun in the video which is why it was slower 0-30. Go back and watch.
WTF, 250 3/4 vs 350 1 tons? Why not get an F-350 for fair comparison?
How on earth would that make a difference in a test like this? C’mon now…
Wouldn't gmc 6.6 come third? Same truck as chevy basically
Well, at least my Hemi didn’t comes in last.
Ferd built in China and snapped together in the USA 😮
Why does the 24 Silverado weigh 1000 pounds more than the 22 Silverado and the Ford? Is it a super high trim level?
22 silverado is 2wd
the ford is aluminum body
@@jacobralph4548 the Ford is a low trim level. JBs truck is the highest trim level and also has dual batteries and alternators
JB, this test can’t cover what pro athletes call “the intangibles”. It’s hard to test confidence a certain truck gives the owner, how you feel towing, and I’m sure most will agree. We are all biased to some brand or other, we’re guys. “My xxxxxxx will smoke your xxxxxxx in a 1/4” and so on. Comfort, visibility, it’s all subjective. Besides, my f450 will pull the axles off that pile of junk you call a truck lmao.
Just wait for GM's new vs all ya going to say WOW.....wish I could say......
Your high country was 998lbs heavier than the custom you tested….. no wonder it was slower 🙄
Why don't you compare apples to apples, 2500 vs 3500, gearing is all different and different packages. This test means nothing
Knew you where a Ford Man
Fords computer mpg is alwaysssss higher than reality. GM is much more accurate
In my experience they all lie pretty egregiously.
I’ve seen the exact opposite.
@@FlyingAceAV8B Not been my experience of it, neither has it been TFLT'S: ua-cam.com/video/WeQnI1itXNI/v-deo.html
these trucks arent for the drag strip, lol
wth does this have anything to do with a HD truck
If you have to ask that question, you won’t understand the answer.
The Chevy 1 ton weighs 1000 pounds more than the 3/4 ton etc. 😂
Take the Chevy trans out of the ferd now it's on the side of the road. THATS THEE FERD BELONGS !!!! Now what do they got!!😮 they steal off every one ferd about Mazda used and dumped. Volvo used and dumped. 😮
So is the chevy 6.6 still burning oil? There garbage motors
6.6 is direct injected and that MAY cause issues in the future no one really has 100k on those engines yet.....and fords 7.3..there r video all over online with engine failures....Rams 6.4 although not the most powerful is probably the most reliable engine....but if the 6.6 proves reliable that may be good too