I don't train striking, just BJJ. The first time I got hit in real life, I just remember a big aggressive dude was coming down some steps to "beat our ass" and I was facing my rookie and telling him to get his Taser out... then I was facing something completely different, watching my glasses fly off into the distance. I doubt it was more than 3 seconds... but it felt like forever. In my head I was thinking "Huh... what is going on?" Then I looked over and a giant dude was grappling with the other guy. Unfortunately for the bad guy the taser was out and he got it to his neck; dropped like a sack of potatoes and started crying. Two lessons... taser is no BS, and if you have never been punched in the face you are going to be in a very bad way when you do. I believe that everyone should experience it, because had I been alone that sucker punch might have been much, much worse.
Our gym does combat bjj with 8oz mma gloves 2 times a week. When you do those classes you find out real quick what bjj techniques are valid in a altercation and which one should just stick too bjj
@@DerineShorts I would honestly say anything that gets you from bottom position to top. When strikes are involved you don't wanna be on bottom. Once on top as long as you have good control and weight on them your golden
@@DerineShorts bottom escapes, anything that will get you to top position, sweeps, reversals etc also anything that'll get you back standing like wrestle ups. Even if you're a grappler, you dont wanna be on the ground in da streetz since other people can potentially come in, but if you're confident it's just gonna be 1v1, then yeah top control knee on belly mount etc
So you guys are telling me people don't accidentally punch, kick, elbow and knee you guys in the face while rolling? This is news to me! But in all seriousness I agree, we grapplers need striking too.
Big fan brother. Of the literally HUNDREDS of BJJ personalities and coaches on UA-cam, you are one of only about half a dozen I actually closely follow and appreciate. I don’t normally comment because you do a great job, saying what needs to be said, on every topic. But. Had to chime in on this one. You nailed it. I’ve been training and teaching since 1984. Your succinct and mature presentation on this very common question for BJJ and MMA students should be linked and imbedded on the website of every reputable gym. Bravo Chewy! 👊😎🙏
Started off doing bjj 4 times a week along with some freestyle wrestling classes now and then in 2018, fell in love with striking and foccused more on standing than bjj and did a muay thai smoker in 2021 which humbled tf out of me, now I am practicing mma. I remember watching your videos before morning bjj class 😂😅keep it up brother
For my blue belt test we had partners with gloves on punches us while we tried to submit them. Wasnt hard punches but it did illustrate what positions left you vulnerable.
Older guy here about 5 months in. I took a knee to the face when rolling a month ago. Had teeth rearranged and got braces. It was an accident and the guy felt terrible. It has impacted my confidence but I’m getting it back.
Started BJJ Two weeks ago. mma gym as well. Both are very demanding. Also very hard to transition from working and defending submissions, to working and defending submissions while getting punched.
Spot on analysis man. I have been taking jiu-jitsu for a total of 10 months cumulative, 8 months Gracie, 2 months Machado BJJ, and started Muay Thai 10 weeks ago. When I got punched in the face during my first Muay Thai sparring session, I involuntarily went blank for 2 seconds. It wasn't even a full force punch. Also, I tried to clench my instructor. He lit me up. Unless u r a very good/experienced Jiu-jitsu practitioner, good luck getting ahold of someone who is good at striking. Also, if u take a martial art that doesn't have REAL sparring, It is much harder to land a clean shot on someone who is moving and or resisting.
You need a break my friend. Go do something else for a while. Or try a different martial art. Try striking. Completely different cardio, pattern recognition and skill set. It keeps me fresh and changes it up.
I have been doing BJJ for a while and did kickboxing for a few months to get experience and more understanding for striking. It isn't easy but it has definitely helped my timings for takedowns and allowed me to be less stiff with my movements.
This is just sound advice for all martial arts. I'm a karate guy. My comfort is on my feet, moving around and hitting from odd angles, but I have spent considerable time studying bjj, judo, and wrestling. It has made my preferred fighting method stronger because I can read when tie-ups are favorable and unfavorable for me, as well as being able to escape should I get caught.
Yes because BJJ guys who dont train in striking think they know how to fight. I do both kickboxing and BJJ and the BJJ only guys are scared to take punches
Going to go on a bit of a rant here. I’m a 45-year-old guy who has trained in various different martial arts for most of my life. I won’t go through the list, but it’s just about everything you can think of. I have also been in the military, and I have 17 years as a law-enforcement officer under my belt. None of that makes me an expert, but I’d like to think I have some clue what I’m talking about. I think that when people discuss this topic, it’s typical to become focused on the wrong questions. The reality of violence is that, for the vast majority of us living in western civilization, it is highly unlikely that we will ever have to get into a fistfight with another person. If we are going to discuss self-defense, we can talk until we are blue in the face about which combination of martial arts styles will provide you with the best “insurance policy” should you find yourself in a situation where you have no choice but to fight. The reality, however, is that self-defense starts with other things that have nothing to do with martial arts. 1. Avoiding situations where you are likely to encounter potentially violent people. Most of these situations will have a common denominator, and that tends to be guys who are drunk. 2. General situational awareness. Keep your head on a swivel, and pay attention to people’s tone of voice, body language, and the specific words they are using. If you find yourself in a situation where things look like they are going bad, remove yourself from that situation. 3. Verbal judo, AKA de-escalation. Knowing how to talk to people in a way that takes them from a state of agitation to a relaxed state is incredibly useful. There are lots of videos online that can teach you the basics of this valuable skill set. 4. Cardio. Like chewy said, run away. Forget about your ego or your reputation. Even if you think you can win the fight, is it worth potentially going to jail or facing a lawsuit? Fighting is stupid, and the only reason you should ever do it is because you are put in a situation where you have to defend yourself or someone else and you have no other alternative. Final thoughts: Although it is incredibly unlikely that you will ever get in a fight if you follow the above advice, anything can happen. In the event that you are attacked, if I had to pick one martial art, Brazilian jiujitsu wins. This is assuming that your school teaches you how to defend yourself against strikes. Most don’t anymore, so good luck with that. The reason that I pick jiujitsu is that you will probably only ever face a single opponent. If you get jumped by four or five people, I don’t care how much kickboxing you know. You are in real trouble. BJJ will provide you with a method for self-defense, and you don’t have to harm the other person to protect yourself. If you want to go out and learn kickboxing or some other form of striking, more power to you. But the truth is that if you get attacked, it’s not a cage fight. Your job is (assuming that you couldn’t run away) to neutralize the other person‘s ability to do damage to you. To control them. The less harm you can do to them in the process, the better it’s going to be for you legally. Proper self-defense training in Brazilian jujitsu teaches you how to avoid being struck from the outside, close the distance, take the person to the ground, and control them so that they have no leverage from which to do damage to you. Any striking art where you stand there and try to exchange blows introduces the very real possibility that you get knocked out. Not worth taking the chance.
Very well said. I agree with essentially every point. This is a bit of an echo of what you said at the end but BJJ does provide a nice way to neutralize a threat (if there was no way to escape or deescalate) while potentially keeping the legal trouble to a minimum. I always laugh hearing people argue over this topic, blue in the face as you said. Fighting should be the last resort in most circumstances, and it is better that you at least know something because it's a crazy world. Thanks for sharing, and thank you for you service. Well said.
this is most important for women, when a guy attacks a woman, 99.99% of the time the first thing they do is punch her in the face, yet, I have never seen a "self defense course for women" that involves how to take a punch, I'm sure there are somewhere, but I never saw it, and unfortunately, there is only one way to practice that, I'm not saying that women should punch it out with a guy, but as Chewy say, learn how to take a punch and react or defend accordingly is important, esp in a self defense setting
I believe like anything it’s about balance! If you are a great striker but never get taken down and have to fight to get back up you are lacking! The exact same thing is true if you grapple but never do any striking work! Thanks for the advice chewy 😊
No fight sport is enough on its own. We should teach multiple fight sports (boxing, Muay Thai, wrestling and BJJ in particular) to EVERYONE, all kids included.
I say as a boxer that has a grappling/wrestling mix. If you BJJ guys think you can grab a boxer that has fast footwork and hands its gonna be a hurtful experience. I tell BJJ guys learn to box and weave/setups
Once a week our jj gym has vale tudo class after one of our fundamental bjj classes, and he incorporates it with self-defense! Sometimes we use the electric practice knives 😂we get to put the gloves on and do striking, standing and on the ground! The hub and I go, it's fun and tough, but we love it! 💪😎i highly suggest anyone doing jj to also try and incorporate some striking, it changes the game a bit and it's fun! 🎉 Thanks Chew! 💪💓
Punching and kicks Also set up takedowns and submissions. Plus ur adrenaline is going on hyper speed. Everyone should understand it’s different when people are trying to physically knock u out. U could wrestle with Jordan burrows and it would suck but u couldn’t spar with ggg. That’s just the fact
So my gym offers BJJ, wrestling and fitness kick boxing. I haven’t done any kick boxing yet but I’m loving the BJJ and wresting. I’m guessing the fitness kick boxing can probably teach me some good basic striking, but I’m also guessing I might need to learn what it’s like to be punched in the face
I've gotten punched in the face enough to know that it sucks, but it doesn't phase me as much as it should. Nose punches put tears in my eyes that can be pretty distracting though.
Most BJJ goes straight out the window once striking comes in to play... Hence why there are zero competent UFC/ MMA competitors with only BJJ training.
@@scottburnip7625facts horrible striking yet one of best welterweights ever! with that said ''mma'' MEANS you ALWAYS need to known grappling and striking. almost no striker doesnt got his brown belt in bjj
Yes 👍🏻 you need to know how to actually block punches and how to punch and kick and how to wrestle to be effective at jiu jitsu in a cage or self defense. Otherwise your doing combat yoga.
Is BJJ enough? It absolutely can be in many situations. We’ve all seen professional MMA fighters who are one dimensional completely impose their game on other pro fighters. If you are a purple belt or higher and you are in a one-on-one fight with another person, and they are untrained, you absolutely should be able to impose your one dimensional game plan on that person and dominate them. That said, being well rounded is always a better option. But this idea of “BJJ doesn’t work for self defense” is total bullshit.
Self defence is being aware of your surroundings. Bjj wins for basic defence against single attacks. If groups of attackers your always fucked if want to actually have a fight
I think everyone that wants one should be able to have a heavy bag at their home to make for a less stressed and fear-filled, better trained, happier population. #UniversalHeavyBags
Nah, I'm just built different, I see red and people get hurt man. I just practice in my yard punching trees
Well you won't hurt me. That's for damn sure so I know you ain't talking about me. Try and punch me and you will never connect
@@SailorbydayHe is sarcastic right?
Let's not forget, like grappling, striking is fun!
Old guy here, we would have judo, followed us with kick boxing, followed up with beer and tacos. Best training sessions ever.
sounds like a good night
Pro tip: never have tacos before.😂
I don't train striking, just BJJ. The first time I got hit in real life, I just remember a big aggressive dude was coming down some steps to "beat our ass" and I was facing my rookie and telling him to get his Taser out... then I was facing something completely different, watching my glasses fly off into the distance. I doubt it was more than 3 seconds... but it felt like forever. In my head I was thinking "Huh... what is going on?" Then I looked over and a giant dude was grappling with the other guy.
Unfortunately for the bad guy the taser was out and he got it to his neck; dropped like a sack of potatoes and started crying.
Two lessons... taser is no BS, and if you have never been punched in the face you are going to be in a very bad way when you do.
I believe that everyone should experience it, because had I been alone that sucker punch might have been much, much worse.
Glad you and your officer are okay 🤙🏾
Our gym does combat bjj with 8oz mma gloves 2 times a week. When you do those classes you find out real quick what bjj techniques are valid in a altercation and which one should just stick too bjj
In your opinion which techniques are valuable in such situation with strikes involve?
@@DerineShortsI can't imagine single leg x, de la riva, deep half guard, etc. would be great options, given the opponent still has their hands free.
@@DerineShorts I would honestly say anything that gets you from bottom position to top. When strikes are involved you don't wanna be on bottom. Once on top as long as you have good control and weight on them your golden
@@DerineShorts bottom escapes, anything that will get you to top position, sweeps, reversals etc also anything that'll get you back standing like wrestle ups.
Even if you're a grappler, you dont wanna be on the ground in da streetz since other people can potentially come in, but if you're confident it's just gonna be 1v1, then yeah top control knee on belly mount etc
@@l.k.9666 Single leg X is actually ok, but can't stay there for too long. Directly go for the sweep or heel hook
So you guys are telling me people don't accidentally punch, kick, elbow and knee you guys in the face while rolling?
This is news to me!
But in all seriousness I agree, we grapplers need striking too.
Big fan brother. Of the literally HUNDREDS of BJJ personalities and coaches on UA-cam, you are one of only about half a dozen I actually closely follow and appreciate. I don’t normally comment because you do a great job, saying what needs to be said, on every topic. But. Had to chime in on this one. You nailed it. I’ve been training and teaching since 1984. Your succinct and mature presentation on this very common question for BJJ and MMA students should be linked and imbedded on the website of every reputable gym. Bravo Chewy! 👊😎🙏
Distance management for punch protection.....super important....
Green zone, red zone, green zone: ua-cam.com/video/LGO31XqkevM/v-deo.htmlsi=aMRE4dG6om2ban7j&t=134
Started off doing bjj 4 times a week along with some freestyle wrestling classes now and then in 2018, fell in love with striking and foccused more on standing than bjj and did a muay thai smoker in 2021 which humbled tf out of me, now I am practicing mma. I remember watching your videos before morning bjj class 😂😅keep it up brother
For my blue belt test we had partners with gloves on punches us while we tried to submit them. Wasnt hard punches but it did illustrate what positions left you vulnerable.
Older guy here about 5 months in. I took a knee to the face when rolling a month ago. Had teeth rearranged and got braces. It was an accident and the guy felt terrible. It has impacted my confidence but I’m getting it back.
Started BJJ Two weeks ago. mma gym as well. Both are very demanding. Also very hard to transition from working and defending submissions, to working and defending submissions while getting punched.
Spot on analysis man.
I have been taking jiu-jitsu for a total of 10 months cumulative, 8 months Gracie, 2 months Machado BJJ, and started Muay Thai 10 weeks ago.
When I got punched in the face during my first Muay Thai sparring session, I involuntarily went blank for 2 seconds. It wasn't even a full force punch. Also, I tried to clench my instructor. He lit me up. Unless u r a very good/experienced Jiu-jitsu practitioner, good luck getting ahold of someone who is good at striking.
Also, if u take a martial art that doesn't have REAL sparring,
It is much harder to land a clean shot on someone who is moving and or resisting.
Coach Ramsey Dewey said it best: no one has a real plan until well after they've been punched in the face.
I've been training for 8+ yrs just about every day. I think I'm burnt out. All I think about anymore is "why do I keep doing this"?
Time to take a break perhaps
@@henryulrich4221 you are probably correct.
You have to stop doing stuff in order to miss it
Have a year off , go learn something else , it’s fine
You need a break my friend. Go do something else for a while. Or try a different martial art. Try striking. Completely different cardio, pattern recognition and skill set. It keeps me fresh and changes it up.
I have been doing BJJ for a while and did kickboxing for a few months to get experience and more understanding for striking. It isn't easy but it has definitely helped my timings for takedowns and allowed me to be less stiff with my movements.
This is just sound advice for all martial arts. I'm a karate guy. My comfort is on my feet, moving around and hitting from odd angles, but I have spent considerable time studying bjj, judo, and wrestling. It has made my preferred fighting method stronger because I can read when tie-ups are favorable and unfavorable for me, as well as being able to escape should I get caught.
Are we really still having this conversation in 2024??? 😂😂😂
Yes
I don’t understand your question
Yes because BJJ guys who dont train in striking think they know how to fight. I do both kickboxing and BJJ and the BJJ only guys are scared to take punches
I boxed years ago, now do MMA, BJJ, and judo. A black belt who gets hit a couple times becomes a white belt real fast.
I believe it was Rickson Gracie that said, "The best way to turn a BJJ Black Belt into a brown belt and so on is to punch him in the face one time".
Going to go on a bit of a rant here.
I’m a 45-year-old guy who has trained in various different martial arts for most of my life. I won’t go through the list, but it’s just about everything you can think of. I have also been in the military, and I have 17 years as a law-enforcement officer under my belt.
None of that makes me an expert, but I’d like to think I have some clue what I’m talking about.
I think that when people discuss this topic, it’s typical to become focused on the wrong questions.
The reality of violence is that, for the vast majority of us living in western civilization, it is highly unlikely that we will ever have to get into a fistfight with another person.
If we are going to discuss self-defense, we can talk until we are blue in the face about which combination of martial arts styles will provide you with the best “insurance policy” should you find yourself in a situation where you have no choice but to fight.
The reality, however, is that self-defense starts with other things that have nothing to do with martial arts.
1. Avoiding situations where you are likely to encounter potentially violent people. Most of these situations will have a common denominator, and that tends to be guys who are drunk.
2. General situational awareness. Keep your head on a swivel, and pay attention to people’s tone of voice, body language, and the specific words they are using. If you find yourself in a situation where things look like they are going bad, remove yourself from that situation.
3. Verbal judo, AKA de-escalation. Knowing how to talk to people in a way that takes them from a state of agitation to a relaxed state is incredibly useful. There are lots of videos online that can teach you the basics of this valuable skill set.
4. Cardio. Like chewy said, run away. Forget about your ego or your reputation. Even if you think you can win the fight, is it worth potentially going to jail or facing a lawsuit? Fighting is stupid, and the only reason you should ever do it is because you are put in a situation where you have to defend yourself or someone else and you have no other alternative.
Final thoughts:
Although it is incredibly unlikely that you will ever get in a fight if you follow the above advice, anything can happen.
In the event that you are attacked, if I had to pick one martial art, Brazilian jiujitsu wins. This is assuming that your school teaches you how to defend yourself against strikes. Most don’t anymore, so good luck with that.
The reason that I pick jiujitsu is that you will probably only ever face a single opponent. If you get jumped by four or five people, I don’t care how much kickboxing you know. You are in real trouble.
BJJ will provide you with a method for self-defense, and you don’t have to harm the other person to protect yourself.
If you want to go out and learn kickboxing or some other form of striking, more power to you. But the truth is that if you get attacked, it’s not a cage fight. Your job is (assuming that you couldn’t run away) to neutralize the other person‘s ability to do damage to you. To control them. The less harm you can do to them in the process, the better it’s going to be for you legally.
Proper self-defense training in Brazilian jujitsu teaches you how to avoid being struck from the outside, close the distance, take the person to the ground, and control them so that they have no leverage from which to do damage to you.
Any striking art where you stand there and try to exchange blows introduces the very real possibility that you get knocked out. Not worth taking the chance.
Very well said. I agree with essentially every point. This is a bit of an echo of what you said at the end but BJJ does provide a nice way to neutralize a threat (if there was no way to escape or deescalate) while potentially keeping the legal trouble to a minimum.
I always laugh hearing people argue over this topic, blue in the face as you said.
Fighting should be the last resort in most circumstances, and it is better that you at least know something because it's a crazy world. Thanks for sharing, and thank you for you service. Well said.
this is most important for women, when a guy attacks a woman, 99.99% of the time the first thing they do is punch her in the face, yet, I have never seen a "self defense course for women" that involves how to take a punch, I'm sure there are somewhere, but I never saw it, and unfortunately, there is only one way to practice that, I'm not saying that women should punch it out with a guy, but as Chewy say, learn how to take a punch and react or defend accordingly is important, esp in a self defense setting
I do some similar stuff with my adult Jiu-jitsu class as far as barebones striking patterns and vice versa with my youth kickboxing.
I believe like anything it’s about balance! If you are a great striker but never get taken down and have to fight to get back up you are lacking! The exact same thing is true if you grapple but never do any striking work! Thanks for the advice chewy 😊
No fight sport is enough on its own.
We should teach multiple fight sports (boxing, Muay Thai, wrestling and BJJ in particular) to EVERYONE, all kids included.
Especially to females (as well as all minorities...) as it relates to self-defense and equality. #BullyBeatdown
I say as a boxer that has a grappling/wrestling mix. If you BJJ guys think you can grab a boxer that has fast footwork and hands its gonna be a hurtful experience. I tell BJJ guys learn to box and weave/setups
Yeah a bjj guy would have to weather a storm of punches to get a hold, but he does get a hold the boxer is done for
@@bujindork agreed but better hope that boxer does not have wrestling/grappling abilities of slight.
@@Jupiterxicewell were changing the parameters. The bjj guy could be a really good muay thai fighter. Im talking just boxing vs bjj
You will tap, no problem.
@@briansunderman9170 sure I will lol after you get 6-3-2 and shift 2. After you wake up.
Greatest martial art, running
Nick, do you think Tank Abbot ever took a bjj class
I love the title I knew where you were going with it 😂
chewy respect
Once a week our jj gym has vale tudo class after one of our fundamental bjj classes, and he incorporates it with self-defense! Sometimes we use the electric practice knives 😂we get to put the gloves on and do striking, standing and on the ground! The hub and I go, it's fun and tough, but we love it! 💪😎i highly suggest anyone doing jj to also try and incorporate some striking, it changes the game a bit and it's fun! 🎉 Thanks Chew! 💪💓
Unless you're facing 10 people and you're IP man, then you'll be ok
Punching and kicks Also set up takedowns and submissions. Plus ur adrenaline is going on hyper speed. Everyone should understand it’s different when people are trying to physically knock u out. U could wrestle with Jordan burrows and it would suck but u couldn’t spar with ggg. That’s just the fact
ggg?
I train in JKD-PFS, so I embrace it all !!!!!! Try training in a weapon based art such as the FILIPINO MARTIAL ARTS-Kali.
So my gym offers BJJ, wrestling and fitness kick boxing. I haven’t done any kick boxing yet but I’m loving the BJJ and wresting. I’m guessing the fitness kick boxing can probably teach me some good basic striking, but I’m also guessing I might need to learn what it’s like to be punched in the face
"Honey chewi says you should punch me in the face before class"
😉
I've gotten punched in the face enough to know that it sucks, but it doesn't phase me as much as it should.
Nose punches put tears in my eyes that can be pretty distracting though.
There is Jiu Jitsu and then there is Jiu Jitsu without strikes
Most BJJ goes straight out the window once striking comes in to play... Hence why there are zero competent UFC/ MMA competitors with only BJJ training.
Can't the same thing be said about any martial art tho?
Damien Mia
@@scottburnip7625facts horrible striking yet one of best welterweights ever! with that said ''mma'' MEANS you ALWAYS need to known grappling and striking. almost no striker doesnt got his brown belt in bjj
I did full contact Tai Kwon Do (meh as a martial art) years ago, got hit hard at times. I don't like it lol Why I do BJJ now.
Great 👍🏼 advice!! And if you stay on defense you’re going to get worked up eventually…
Is BJJ enough? Aks Kron Gracie after his ufc 288 if bjj is enough
Some clubs practice striking.... and some clubs don't even practice takedowns XD
I started with martial arts getting kicked and punched in the face. Moved to grappling and much prefer this in my later age 😅.
But i dont want to be punched in the face 🥺🥺🥺
I’ve been punched in the face. It’s overrated
lol
Sounds like you fought shit strikers bruh
I've been punched in the face 0/10 would not recommend.
Yes 👍🏻 you need to know how to actually block punches and how to punch and kick and how to wrestle to be effective at jiu jitsu in a cage or self defense. Otherwise your doing combat yoga.
MMA clearly answers that question. BJJ only works when your opponent knows nothing about it and has no wrestling skills.
Is BJJ enough? It absolutely can be in many situations. We’ve all seen professional MMA fighters who are one dimensional completely impose their game on other pro fighters. If you are a purple belt or higher and you are in a one-on-one fight with another person, and they are untrained, you absolutely should be able to impose your one dimensional game plan on that person and dominate them. That said, being well rounded is always a better option. But this idea of “BJJ doesn’t work for self defense” is total bullshit.
Should you still get punched in the face if you already been punched in the face, and eye socket...
Self defence is being aware of your surroundings. Bjj wins for basic defence against single attacks. If groups of attackers your always fucked if want to actually have a fight
Bjj clearly the most soy out of all the martial arts. And ive done it for years so i know !
You don't train in ish buddy be quiet
As a practitioner of the art for several years, I also agree. Everything turns into a pissing contest with the BJJ Bros.
What’s going on with this channel - every time I land here it’s some serious crazy ELLIOT HULSE wannabe energy.
The greatest martial art is
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I think everyone that wants one should be able to have a heavy bag at their home to make for a less stressed and fear-filled, better trained, happier population. #UniversalHeavyBags
BJJ is utter GARBAGE