Framing the Outdoor Kitchen Island - First time using metal studs!
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- Опубліковано 3 гру 2022
- First time using metal studs to frame the outdoor kitchen island. I used 20g metals studs and track, 12" on center. Learned quite a bit from this island build that I can use when I frame the much more complex wood fired oven enclosure. I also showed how I ran my electrical to my outdoor island. 12g wire in flexible metal conduit.
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I love your video, just helping others. For your electrical: Try using Metal Stud Bushings instead of a Flexible Conduit. You can pull the wire without cuts. Then some Splicing Connectors for your main box where the power comes in. It will take less space than a giant electrical cap, or multiple caps.
Also, gamatoutsikos I am going with an open floor plan for the pizza oven. The house door opens and it's a straight shot of walking to what I built. If so, the prep table should go on your main-hand side. The islands are also nice for prepping. The pizza oven is higher than the island so you can still see your build. Sitting on the island looking at the pizza oven and eating your bake is also just as nice
well done, thank you
So I am planning to start a very similar patio with a forno bravo Premio 40 inch. Interested to see how yours will turn out. Keep the videos coming!
I am debating on putting an island on front of the oven ... On one hand it will be super practical and useful. On the other hand I have this idea the pizza oven should pop and be this stand alone cooking vessel that attracts people around and the island might interfere with that. Decisions decisions.
I will have a video in the coming weeks which will how the island with the pizza oven. I agree, the design choices are tough. After using my oven now a couple times, I am happy I have a island in front. I will post a video showing some of the pros to it. Also, the Pizza oven is tall enough to still see it over the island. Relaxing to sit at the island and watch the fire inside the pizza oven.
@@blood_sweat_and_beers true! Which oven did you end up putting in?
@@gamatoutsikos I went with the Forno Bravo Premio 100.
Hi, Great job!
I'm in the planning stage of my outdoor kitchen. I'm getting a lot of information and inspiration from your videos, Thank you for sharing.
Noticed that slabs for oven and Islands are few inches above ground, How many inches?
Hi! Thanks for watching and happy to hear they are helping you in your journey. Yes, my concrete pad is a minimum of .5 inches above the pavers. This is to not allow water to run from the pavers and into the kitchen enclosures. With the slope of the patio, some areas are 2 inches above the pavers.
Nice work! I will be constructing one to put on a wooden deck. It is under a pavilion so is dry. Any thoughts or changes you would make in that case? Thanks for the video!
Hello! I don’t think I would change much. Since it is dry, if your deck is level, you could attach the metal framing directly to the deck boards and skip the composite base I set mine on. I would use 20g studs, 12 in on center. Mine has been supporting a 4’x8’ concrete countertop like a champ!
Exactly what I need. What is that miter saw stand/stop block that you are using? My DeWalt Miter Saw stand has too much play for it to be good for stop blocking.
I use the Rigid brand miter stand from Home Depot. I’ve had mine for almost 10 years and still works great. Easy to transport and the stops are very sturdy.
Hello, great job on framing.
I’m starting my own kitchen and wanted to know the height you used for the studs.
Thank you Oscaf
I wanted my finished countertop height to be around 36", which in my scenario would have required 34" studs. However, I needed to go a bit higher to ensure I had enough height to fit the refrigerator. If using metal studs, you can subtract your countertop material thickness from your desired countertop height to get your stud length. Example : If you want 36" finished height and your countertop is 2.25" thick, your stud length would be 36"-2.25" which equals 33.75" stud length.
Thanks bro, I’m following you here and will start my own project. Have thoughts about bbqtubes instead of those metal studs? Thanks for sharing
The BBQ Tubes are perfectly fine to use. They are narrower than traditional metal studs which can be an advantage is areas where you need cutouts slower to the counter edge(like a sink). However, I do not believe they are necessary to build an outdoor kitchen. Metal studs are easier to find, more customizable and cheaper. The 20g studs I used are plenty strong as well. I put a 8' x 4' 2" thick concrete countertop on mine and no issues.
I keep watching this because I want to use metal studs to build out the galley in my van. Since weight is an issue, I won't be using cement board but I still want it strong enough to support a traditional countertop. Any suggestions?
I would just move up to 18g metal studs if you don’t want to use cement board. They aren’t much heavier and is very sturdy.
How long do those studs last in the outdoors? I’m in the northeast and wondering if these would be a good choice.
They will last longer than me! They are galvanized and won’t be taking on direct water. They will get damp at best. Raise them off the concrete and you will be fine. After a year, no signs of rust at all.
Is there another video which shows the finished product w/ the grill set, etc.. ?
It is a continued work in progress. I try to post new videos weekly. Feel free to subscribe and follow along!
Wondering why steel studs for the framing instead of wood? Is steel better?
Wood is probably just fine. Treated lumber will twist as it dries and will expand with the weather. It also has a chance to rot. Metal studs are lighter, easy to work with and strong. They are also non-combustible which is necessary for many outdoor kitchens. Metal can rust, so it is important to not directly attach them to the concrete.
working on a similar project but have an issue with the concrete pad not being level from front to back. How would you level up the track? I need to raise the front track about an inch. Any one have ideas?
If my pad was not level, I would have secured the bottom track to the deck boards first. The bottom track would follow the slope of the pad. I would then cut and install the first stud. With this stud in place, using a long level I would then measure the distance from the level to the bottom track for the last stud. Once you cut and install the last stud, this should make your installed top track level. Now you can measure and cut each stud between the first and last stud to fit.
what are the dimensions, I built a counter but now i'm think of making an island Great job!!
The island dimensions are ~34" x 92". This allowed for a 4'x8' concrete counter on top.
Great video ! What is the high to
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The height is dependent on how tall you want the countertop. This could be taller or shorter depending on your height. I went with a finished countertop of 32” so my framing height was around 30”.
Can you offer a ball park cost estimate for an eight foot island without electricity?
I’ve got lines for water, drain and gas to support a BBQ without lighting or refrigerator.
Thanks for you clear construction video.
Assuming island is 3ft x 8ft with a 4ft x 8 ft countertop. About $150 for the metal studs, $140 in cement board, $100 per access door, concrete countertop forms $100-$200, concrete and additive for countertop $150, $150 for sink, $150 for faucet, miscellaneous screws and parts $75. That is about $1,125 before exterior finish and taxes. Stone could add another $500.
Have you had any issues with putting the composite deck board on the concrete? The manufacturers of composite deck board explicitly state not to install composite deck board directly on concrete.
For this purpose, there are no issues with using composite boards as shown.
How far apart are the studs?
I used 12 inch on center.
did you consider hebel blocks ???
I did not consider hebel blocks. I don't have much experience with them and metal studs were very easy to work with.
I don't know how much of this I trust. Clearly you are incapable of adult decisions with a Steelers shirt and a Callaway hat.