D&D 5e 2024 Player's Handbook Crafting Preview | Nerd Immersion
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I hope the crafting costs are fixed.... i hated seeing "50 gold to buy" and its still "50 gold to craft" 1 thing d&d should take from videogames is that crafting is cheaper than buying from a store
I doubt they will have thought that hard about it.
I want to play a merchant wizard in an upcoming campaign so hopefully it’s cheaper to craft than it is to buy/sell.
Definitely wish the crafting video had more to it. Just another couple of minutes to gives us more than a vague nothing burger.
I'm definitely hoping for something in the DMG that will give artificers a leg-up on crafting.
Ha 2024 artificer. Good joke
I remember I gave my ranger a lotta crafting skills cause I wanted to be a full on survivalist and I had imagined scenarios where they craft weapons and maps from scratch.
for the tools rules youre referencing: those r from Xanathars.
In earlier Editions like 3.5 D&D players could take Feats to Craft Wondrous Items, Craft Armor Weapons , and Craft Rings, Wands.
Spells like Permanacy. were really OP in adding Spell effects to items or players.
Its about time they gave players and DMs the abilty to craft Magic Items again.
Not to mention prestige classes which leaned into the crafting to discount time, resources and gold required. And rules for wizards to set up crafting workshops with workers and apprentices. It is so obvious to us old guys how much has been lost….
35 min reaction to a 5 min video ftw!
I'm pretty happy that making an internal VTT has pushed them to finally codify all of these ideas that are pitched to players with absolutely no guidance on how to implement
I would love to see a "harvest" list of possible magic item components in the Monster Manual, so PCs could collect them from their kills and forge items with them.
This would be excellent
Battle Zoo has that in their Battle Zoo Bestiary. It's pretty cool.
@billturner5908 And Kobold Press has a very similar thing in all their monster books, it really would be a great addition to WotC books.
I find it so funny that WotC is so adamant that it isn't selling a new edition, but they also want people hyped for how different the new books are and that everyone should buy these books to replace their original books.
It’s more like an expansion of 5e. All the core hallmarks are there, just rebalancing things and rolling in the rules from the “of everything” books to lower the entry cost of new players. It’s not a bad thing at all.
thats why they didnt change the ranger so they could point to it and yell SAME EDITION
@@FoundationalDD-eb8qmsee, you get it. Originally commenter doesn’t
If they said it was a new edition, everyone would be complaining that not enough was changing to call it a new edition.
@@DownUnderDMI don't think you understand what OP is saying. We all get this is just 5.5e
The keen mind feet would now go great with cartographer tools and creating all of those wonderful maps that now you could sell back to towns or other adventures to make extra money
I feel like you could have done that already. You make a good point, but WOTC isnt "giving us" anything worth while that I have seen
@@soulcrow7651you can also imagine anything without any books , this is great for first timers not confident in bending rules they don’t understand
I hope they bring back the Masterwork weapons and armor for smithing tools and more Alchemical items to use like 3.5 had
I just want to be able to make a "Holy Hammer" a +1 Warhammer that deals 1d8 Bludgeon + 1d8 Radiant on hit and other stuff like that
You mean 1d4 radiant damage cause 1d8 is too powerful for 5e lol
@@sykunecoming from a DM of 6 players , yeaaah 1D4 for sure lol
Much harder to pick up d4s if you blow off some fingers
There better be a fucking Skill Check involved. Otherwise The Artificer's Tool Expertise is useless.
I agree but they clearly don't care about Artificer's feelings with the lack of them in this book.
@@arc4382 there's hope of them in the DMG!!! Tinkers Unite!!!!
Are these going to be actual new rules or are these imported rules from xanathars? iirc there were a lot of similar sounding rules in there
Before everything, how many times does Todd nod and say "Perfect" like he wasn't listening?
But I don't want it on D&D Beyond.
It's funny your video is 5 times longer then the actual release lol😅
@hamsmcham3238 pretty typical of me honestly
Dude that was a better safety moment than the ones we have at work. Kudos!
Haha, my time doing job site talks all these years seemed to pay off!
@@NerdImmersion dude, “if your meeting has more than 3 people you have to have a safety moment”
Trust me, we ran out of stuff a while back. It doesn’t help that we are not field workers, so us talking about the order that you deenergize/energize makes no sense. New and little used situational awareness things either…
One of the things I was most disappointed in with the 2014 rulebook was "Your DM will have a list of 'x' thing." But I never could find that list if it ever existed. It stopped the game and the DM had to figure out what the players could do before the game could progress.
I'm genuinely curious about how much of these "new" crafting rules are ripped straight out of Xanathar's
any pricing system for magic items needs to accommodate different levels of magic. Magic is everywhere in Baldur's Gate 3, but at my table they are far more rare, but not legendarily rare.
Not sure anyone here played it but the game Solasta, which is built on the 5.1 srd, added crafting and did it in a fantastic way. Granted that is a video game and it may not perfectly translate but I would be happy using something similar.
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Specific uses were given in Xanathar's Guide.
First thing I’ve seen that is actually exciting with all the HB content I’ve had to use, nice
What is going to happen to the artificer? Would it just disappear? Just to not need to share the IP or something?
I hope theyve finally put the small brazier in the equipment list for all thos mages to use for their find familiar spells.
FWIW, Tales of the Valiant lists prices for magic items.
ToV took a lot of inspiration from things we saw early in the UA process for this like standard spell list and standard subclass progression. Won't be surprised if magic item pricing is similar.
Again player focused what is for the dm?
@p-leif630 I mean I would expect the Player's Handbook to be player focused...
You know, with the challenge rating thing, they could "add" monsters that have the same stats as old ones but at a higher/lower CR, while "tweaking" the old monster to fit its CR. They said they were adding higher/lower CR entries to certain monster "families", I wonder if some of those are just re-fitting the CRs so something that used to be over powered is now the bigger version of the thing, while the "standard" version at the previous CR is tamed down a bit. There were a lot of monsters that had issues with certain abilities that could for instance outright kill a player, or could easily knock everyone down at the CR level, and I would hate to see those monster abilities totally lost, but in a lot of cases if you go from "if you fail the save you die" to "if you fail the save you take damage" it basically completely changes the dynamic of that creature. So it would be cool if that version lived on under another name at a higher CR.
You said you briefly reviewed a chapter we have been screaming to get for years? I understand the DnD team doing a brief quick video with the intention of doing a deeper look later, I hope. I really hope the chapter itself has some meat to it or we will be screaming for a much bigger book on crafting.
At least tools are now more than a flavor splash. I'm glad they are deep diving on the crafting and items in general. This is reminding me quite a bit of 3.5 since that went into a decent amount of information on items and cost.
I'm mostly excited for weapon\armor smithing rules. Potions and magic scrolls be nice as well. I suspect golemns to be in there as well. Things like vehicles might also be in there.
Not sure anyone here played it but the game Solasta, which is built on the 5.1 srd, added crafting and did it in a fantastic way. Granted that is a video game and it may not perfectly translate but I would be happy using something similar.
They will prolly roll directly with the MM and DMG videos so they can sell them as a bundle now. It’s a smart move if the reception is poor and sales are low. The players preordering are more likely to buy all the books than a majority who are waiting to see. Especially given the digital landscape and DnD beyond - so much of the new material is to be available for free.
In regards to the volume on your video at around the 12 minutemark. Since you changed your computer, the volume output on UA-cam seems lower than before. I keep my computer speakers set to 100, but on your videos I now need to use headphones as the overall volume output seems lower. I am older, so my hearing is not as good as it used to be, but I have noticed this since you changed to your new computer.
One thing that I know they won't do, but that I wish they would. Is include "recipes" for magic items. Pathfinder telling me what it takes to make each magic item was so cool. It made my brain start firing up as I was like "Oh man, I could make one of these!" and because it wasn't vague I started looking for ways to pull it off. Now if the rules were less money focused, and still had wiggle room that a DM could just supply a different "ingredient" based on their judgement, that would be even better.
Edited to add, this just sounds like Xanethar's crafting rules, but in one book.
Crafting rules are fun, but like everything it has drawbacks to go with the good aspects. Cheap easy magic items for a high magic setting don't fit with a low magic campaign setting.
@@pheralanpathfinder4897 Pathfinder usually didn't make them cheap...which was a major problem. Because due to the nature of the game, you *needed* certain magic items or you would just die. So the economy was always bonkers. But, when crafting, there was less ambiguity about what you needed to do.
I'm not interested in flooding the game with magic items (though they are already very accessible in the base game) just a clarity in the rules for crafting them. I'm pro it being hard, though tying it to money does insane things to gold in these games. Better for it to be ingredient/spell based.
@@Lurklen then you have players taking a year or three of downtime to craft all the best items.
I like having clear and specific rules. But it creates many headaches by including them in the core rules.
I recently experimented with a setting where there are no magic item shops. Players had to develop contacts who could introduce them to potential sellers. Half loved the challenge and reward for getting a rare item others hated having gold and limited access to magic.
Eventually they went to bigger cities and I gave them magic item shops because that's what Critical Roll does....
@@pheralanpathfinder4897 Oh, I've never done magic item shops. I mean for books and maybe some potions or the like, but not for just magical items. There will be magic item sellers, but they always pop up and disappear at random, or they make little trinkets as a side gig. (The one exception is the big magical city in my world, who has started a sort of franchise, but all the items are cursed and it's kind of a membership marketing scheme cooked up by a devil.)
I mean, they'd still have to get the ingredients and spells, and it's still on the DM to adjudicate that stuff. If they do go for it and take all the time to adventure to get all that stuff, then a couple years of down time makes sense. Someone has to be making these things, why not high level parties? (That solution of yours is basically Xanethar's rules, and a really good and organic way of doing it, kind of making magic items like art trade. It's a good idea!)
"I like having clear and specific rules. But it creates many headaches by including them in the core rules. "
Hard disagree. I think having things be vague and indistinct and then relying on a bunch of 3rd party solutions for things people want to do in the game, creates more headaches than some clear well designed rules. But, as Dm you can always just not use em if you don't lke em.
the ad at the end of the video seems like it's playing at 0.75x speed
Yes, give things actions to make it easier to integrate into a video game menu.... *Sigh*
I think it would be fun if spell scrolls were used as a currency for magic items (paper money)
This is actually a really good idea. Very similar to bearer bonds.
Are there magic items in the PHB?
Potions of Healing. That's it
Any news when they are going to launch the new sorcerer?
Did you ever do an update on the pixel dice? I got a D20 and it will come in around next week.
Let me reach out on that
Nerd Immersion, I have watched your content for years, and I know reporting WOTC developments is part of the game. But I (and I hope many others) are walking away from WOTC products and AI "art", low product quality and limited creative developments. I really hope to see more videos with you reviewing even more third party content. At this point, it is better in every conceivable way, quality, amount, art, optional rules... and has been for a few years. You have the audience for you to help the community walk away from the sub-par content of WOTC and seek out reviews on publicity for more quality publications. - your videos are great and I hope for the continued longevity of your channel
Thank goodness
not quiet
I've always hated the "rarity" given to magic items, and Baldur's Gate really crystalizes the issue: "Rarity" just labels how powerful something is, not actually how likely you are to find it. Aside from consumables and basic +1 items, most items are UNIQUE or there are a very small number of them in the game (like 2 or 3). The "rarity" could be listed as anything, but the reality is that there are "uncommon" items that are exactly as rare as the most important artifacts in the game: 1 of 1. While at the same time, for consumables rarity often goes in the other direction with shops being able to sell you an unlimited supply of potions and scrolls of any rarity. Now, the rules in the DMG for random loot do actually make sense with "rarity" - it's a measure of how likely you are to roll that item. But how many DMs these days do purely random loot? Just giving out random stuff even if the party can't use it, or if it messes with game balance, or breaks a part of the adventure? I suspect most DMs handle magic items a lot more like BG3 does. As such, "rarity" means absolutely nothing. Plus, it's sort of presumptive to say a +1 weapon is "uncommon" what if they're standard issue in the military? Rarity really depends on setting, and the adventure. While on the other hand the "wand of smiles" is common? I'm sorry, do regular people go around making each other smile using magic all the time? Can I buy such a thing in every corner store in the city? Rarity, power level, and value are all very different concept. The fact that the 2014 DMG treats them all as the same is just silly.
That's something I really like about PF2e, where the power level of an item is correlated to its item level while the rarity (common, uncommon, rare, or unique) is actually related to its presence within the world.
Where did you get the orange hat at? I really want one.
@@Enforcer_Hound1 Blonde Swan Hats
@@NerdImmersion omg thanks 🧡
It only took them 10 years to realize they were missing such a badic item as a map. This is why I prefer Pathfinder, 5e puts so much on the DM to come up with on the spot.
It's not putting it on the DM, it's acknowledging 90% of tables don't use rules for anything outside combat 😂
@MisterCynic18 it's obviously both, 5e is the Skyrim of TTRPGs; it needs mods/homebrew to function properly.
The biggest point for me is crafting time. I understand rarer magic items taking longer, but two weeks for an uncommon or one week for a common magic item is ridiculous (especially if there's a quest to get the ingredients or recipe). I'm cool with a week if it's a few hours a day over the span of a week, with the option to work full time in only a few days. Or have the time decreased with more people helping you. But the time for those lesser items needs reduced (even if rarer ones stay the same). That way we can actually craft standard magic items. Not every campaign will have weeks of downtime, and you shouldn't have to insert such a drastic halt, just to craft one item.
And if it stays relatively the same, but with the acknowledgment that an updated artificer will be made sometime in the following year or so, then I can accept that. Having the class designed for crafting get legit benefits in crafting time needed is acceptable to me, since the main character I plan on crafting with is an artificer. Of course this assumes they'll actually update the artificer at all. But enough has changed in this new PHB to warrant a proper update for them, if only to maintain the same types of upgrades other classes have gotten.
Also this kust sounds like cleric of the forge, all you need is gold and it's basically a travelling store.
The prices being codified also is annoying because it sets players to expect pricing which means it forces your world to have forgotten realms levels of insanely cheap magic and stupidly big treasures.
Well they gave them rarities instead and nobody liked it lol
How much do you want to be that 3rd party crafting rules are still going to be better than what they came up with?
There are already better 3rd party crafting rules.