Always amazes me how you can get yourself to understand complicated machinery so well that you can design and build your own like this. Really impressive
Well, I've been doing this for over 15 years in a full-time job. You see and learn a lot. Design work is about solving problems. Everywhere you look there are problems to solve. You develop a high level of problem-solving potential over time. If, like me, you spend 8-9 hours in a company and the rest of the day at home working with machines, you can design a loom quite quickly.
I work as a detail designer for packaging machines in a company in Austria. There are always new applications to design, which makes the work very varied.
Thank you for being so concise and informative - this looks amazing! Have been trying to find channels that make tools and machines with 3D printing, and here you are :) Ty from Norway
Started my afternoon watching 3D print tutorials and some how ended up learning how a loom works and how to create weave patterns. Youtuibe algorithm is pretty crazy at times.
I really want to make this but I forgot how tedious setting up loom can be. Thank you for creating this and making it available, weaving is another lost art. Very thorough video and well thought out.
Yes, you're right. Nobody thinks about how our fabrics are made anymore. I hope I was able to make a contribution to bringing this forgotten art back to life.
Lol. Weaving is definitely not a lost art. At minimum numerous factory workers, factory designers, and weave designers(or whatever they are called) know the process. That is the minimum that would remain until the day we stop wearing clothes. That is probably at least a million people. But past the minimum weaving is an active hobby.
I’ve seen some other loom projects, but this is one of the most “clean” builds I’ve seen, amazing work as always! (Also that bit on pattern design is really interesting and I’ll have to read up on all that!)
I'm glad you like it. That motivates me. The number of patterns you can make with it is extremely large. Depending on the tension of the threads and sequences, the variation is almost infinite.
This is amazing! Ive been working with a weaving teacher (@Acton Creative here on UA-cam) and this would be so amazing to interest younger makers who might have access to a 3D printer but can't afford a loom. Like me!
Setting up the loom is a relatively large effort. With industrial machines, this can take days. My small one took about 1-2 hours to set up. But it is quite pleasant work. You can't stress yourself and you have to stay focused.
That's reason why most industrial looms mostly stay threaded up, even when you mothball them for a while. "Just re-knotting something" is relatively fast to do even if you have to do error hunting down the line. There are tools that can do that semi automatically. You'll need those if your thread count is in the thousand or you'll never see the end of it. But threading something up completely from scratch is a GIANT PITA... and it takes days if you're lucky.
Great project - Being an electronics guy, I would add a small ESP32 processor and some LEDs above each of the lifter levers so that the pattern could be displayed without looking at a piece of paper, but even without modification, what an awesome project.
@@FraensEngineering And using an ESP32, you should be able to make it wireless. While it might be overkill, the software package WLED could probably be set up to display the pattern required. And since it supports button inputs, you could have a "Next" button to advance the pattern. Plus, you could probably download new patterns wireless using the app. I have only played around with WLED a little, so it might not be as easy as I think, but that is where I would start. And WLED is free, so it cost nothing but a small led strip to play with it.
That would be even better with an app. I have a lot of experience with Arduino. As far as I know, the ESP is not much different. You could provide hundreds or thousands of patterns to download. Maybe even an open collection where anyone could upload their patterns. Oh man, you just triggered my brain extremely 😂 For now, however, I would like to build a purely mechanical solution. I'm imagining something along the lines of a punch card. The advantage of a mechanical solution would be that anyone can build it without any electrical knowledge. But I think a display using LEDs and an app would be really cool. I have a programmer friend who could certainly create such a web application.
@@FraensEngineering I like the punch card idea - I assume you intend to 3d print that card. What a great mixture of technologies - punch cards from the early 1900's and 3d printing from the 2000's.
I don't know exactly how to do it yet. But I think it will be a chain that is fitted with bolts. And I think I'll build the mechanics on top. But I'm still sitting in front of a sheet of paper where I'm writing down my first ideas.
Very cool! Any plans to add Jaquard-style punch cards to program the weave? I think it would be really cool to have a 3D printed desktop version of one of the first programmable machines ever invented.
Yes, I am thinking about it. I have started to construct a loom that operates the shafts by means of lifting magnets. However, this is a very large and lengthy project. There are still many problems to solve. Let's see if and when I start this project.
This is a really clean build! I would never have considered something like this. Weaving is something I've always wanted to do, but to be honest, warping the loom is just not something I'm ever going to be good at :D
I must honestly say that I have also discovered a new passion in myself. Weaving is really great fun. It never gets boring because you always have to be on the ball, otherwise mistakes can quickly creep in. Perfect for keeping your mind fit in old age.
Holy crap! That blew the 4 shaft i was designing out of the water! A lot of those design ideas are absolutely amazing! I will give myself some grace, I haven't studied loom design, just looked at the basic mechanics and have been winging it the past 6 years, but man, this is a treat. I just wish I had time to put into designing my own looms. I did figure out how to make heddles out of wire with a jig I made. Let me know if you ever need that.
Yes, looms are a great thing. There are so many different designs. They are my second favorite machine after the steam engine. I'm currently working on a Dobby update. I hope it works as well as the loom.
@@FraensEngineering I cant wait to see it! From what I've seen so far, I've only just been blessed by the algorithm with this channel, you definitely have the skills for it. I can't wait to see your take on it. I was thinking of putting an Arduino kit on mine for progressing the pattern automatically to speed up the weaving process. I'm designing my little four shaft loom mostly as an introduction to four shaft weaving. It only has a 10in weft so it's more portable and not as bulky as a table loom or a floor loom, something you can safely take out with you in a way people knit anywhere and everywhere. Right now it's made of 90% laser cut wooden parts. I also have the frame for a 32 shaft loom I designed for a welding class as my final project. I really should finish that. That stainless steel was expensive.
What you are building sounds very interesting and I would be very curious to see pictures. Controlling my loom with an Arduino is the next step if the Dobby mechanism works. Can I find your design somewhere on the internet?
What you are building sounds very interesting and I would be very curious to see pictures. Controlling my loom with an Arduino is the next step if the Dobby mechanism works. Can I find your design somewhere on the internet?
I love your videos I genuinely wish there were more channels like yours. This is the perfect application for 3D-Printing and I don't see many people complete machines like this. I wouldn't mind seeing you make some home appliances like something foot peddle powered (like old singer sewing machines) or or hand crank powered (like grain mills), a printing press would be cool too. Either way good stuff.
Thank you very much for your words of praise. I'm always on the lookout for new projects. But the machines have to meet certain criteria. They should not be too extremely complex. Otherwise I need a lot of time to design and test them. They should also be machines that can be copied by others. If it gets too complicated, it can be very difficult for others. I also want to use as few standard parts as possible to keep the costs down. It's not always easy to find suitable projects that don't take up too much time and effort. You have to find a middle way. My next project is to take up an old one and redesign it. I want to completely redesign my cigarette tamping machine. This project has always been in 1st place for 2 years.
Super clever and beautiful design. Nice. My dad was a loomfixer and weaver. Brings back good memories. I had to turn down the background music though. Deeply annoying after 10 seconds.
at first i was confused why your father would have that job, then you made the comment about music, then i looked at your picture and it all clicked...... longgggg time ago.
Thank you for creating this! I'm interested in a simplified power table loom for those who want to home-produce fabric. I think there might be a market in people who may not be textile enthusiasts but like the idea of maintaining the ability to make their own fabric should they wish to. That would mean a simplified pattern-less loom probably, so its easier to understand and fix, but might be also more rugged if the ability to make a pattern is taken out.
Really love this, I wanted a wooden table loom for awhile now but it's been way above my budget. It looks kind of width extendable too(though that would be a future me problem).
It's my favorite machine. I never knew weaving was so much fun. There's something extremely relaxing about it. But you can also make it very complex. Depending on the pattern you use.
I finished building mine this morning and so far it looks great and everything runs smoothly. The one and only tricky spot I've found so far is that the two center shafts won't operate properly, the screws at the bottom of the frame that retains the elastics are interfering with the bottom lever bearings and will only move about halfway through their range. I'm going to continue investigating it to see if I can resolve the issue (probably just find some screws with shorter heads). Overall though it's a terrific design and printed fantastically!
I am very pleased that everything worked out. Regarding your problem: Do you think the screws are getting stuck in the side panels? It would be great if you could upload some pictures on Etsy. I would love to see other people's looms.
By the way, I am in the process of designing an upgrade. I want to extend the loom so that it can be operated with a kind of 3D printed punched card. Then it would be possible to weave very complex designs. But that's it for today. I have to go to bed 😂
This makes me want to build a sock knitting machine. Especially with how fast my socks wear out, if I could just make a new one within a day it'd be so much better. I can hand knit them, but it takes a couple of weeks for one sock and it's not particularly durable.
@@FraensEngineering I couldn't find the original video, which may not have had the title I think it did, but found this one and he's got other videos on making socks mechanically: ua-cam.com/video/2y1gakl4IEw/v-deo.html
Great work, budy . In Peru they were doing very sophisticated textiles out of wool and cotton. Paracas Culture and was done 2300 years ago before Jesus. Keyword -> textiles paracas . . .
Ja, ich habe mich für die einfachere Variante entschieden. Die automatische bringt sehr viele Probleme mit sich. Aber irgendwann mache ich weiter damit ;-)
Ich muss sagen, weben macht richtig Spaß. Man muss ständig mit dem Kopf bei der Sache bleiben. Das fängt beim Schären der Kette an, geht weiter zum einfädeln und dann natürlich noch die Schaftkombinationen. Eigentlich ein perfektes Hobby für ältere Menschen um im Kopf fit zu bleiben.
@@FraensEngineering Ähhhh... da kann ich nur bedingt zustimmen 🤣 Aber ja, Weber ist ein recht anspruchsvoller Beruf. Weil er multidisziplinär ist. Mechanik, Topologie aka Bindungslehre, und logisches Verständnis brauchst schon um brauchbar zu sein. Wird leider total unterschätzt. Fachkräfte findest kaum noch. Ausbilden ist ne Katastrophe weil es weniger als 5 Schulen gibt in DE die das noch machen. Aber erst mal nen Azubi finden...
This really looks great! But I can't find a link to the "don't have a 3d printer version" both in this description and your website, Etsy says there is no item. I'm currently a weaver and in classes on a 4 shaft loom. I'm really. Intrigued to play with this, but I don't really want to learn to 3d print when I'd rather be weaving. 😊
@@FraensEngineering That's understandable. It's a lot of parts. There are maker spaces but I just moved and have been getting the lay of the land. Is it possible with this loom to make it wider by using a longer screw and increase the number of sections on things like the heddles and beater?
Feels like a handful of cheap electromagnetic servos and a string round a bobbin on a rod connected to a motor and wheel to wind/unwind would permit it to be automated simply? (+microcontroller/lcd)
Some parts of this are quite good, but definitely not for anything high tension, fine woven, or for longevity. I appreciate the pully addition, though I personally would have taken more inspiration from louet rather than the ashford Katie (especially since it's plastic). Louet have a very elegant pulley system on all their looms, and it probably would help to relieve some of the stress on the plastic frames if you did some more research into their technique. Anyone attempting this should arrange at least thick plywood for the frames and beater (lazer cutting patterns might help), and not compramise on the beams or rollers, just buy a couple of rolling pins and some hardwood skirting board, it will last and add a lot of tension capabilities. The plastic shaft ends are a great idea, as well as all the small parts, but plastic reeds are a bit silly when you can get real ones online. I don't even know why you would go through the trouble of printing an 8 shafter if you will need a beating stick to get the sett right anyway, at that point you're going slower than a rigid heddle loom. Anyone intending to try this should go to their local weaving guild and try a real one first, you will understand which parts will be problematic, and probably get enough spare parts for free or cheap to make something that will last and produce quality cloth. If this isn't an option for you, you should consider rigid heddle weaving first.
Hello, I can't understand your concerns. Do you have a 3D printer? Or do you know about the strength of 3D printed parts? The frame is very stable. I don't think I can stretch the warp threads so tightly that the plastic parts wouldn't hold. Metal rods are installed at the critical points. Tensioning the warp threads is absolutely no problem and works perfectly. Of course you can buy parts. But that was not the aim of the project. It should be a loom that anyone can build with a 3D printer and as cheaply as possible. The nice thing about it is that you hardly have to invest any work because the 3D printer does it all by itself. The wooden slats you suggested are not needed because metal threaded rods are used in the places with high loads. This allows it to be attached very tightly and thus produce a dense fabric. Are you a weaver or a designer? The design is such that only compressive forces are generated and no bending moments. 3D printed parts are very strong under compressive stress and comparable to wood. Especially if the stressed parts are printed like my loom.
I already own a 8 shaft Ashford table loom - which I can see this is drawing a lot of inspiration - I might print this for sampling. What the EPI on the Reed? 10, 12?
Hi, the cost of 3D printing is not very high if you print it yourself. You need about 1.5 kg of filament and about 40-50 hours of printing time. But I can't say how much it costs to print from a supplier.
What's the space between the heddle bars? I'd love to use TexSolv heddles (I've got a bunch of them). Also, is there a combined file / package for just the dobby version? I don't want to print parts for the manual version only to not use them - it's the dobby feature I'm most excited about.
My 3d printer collects the dust, but if ladies in the weaving club are interested, I can try to replicate this. The problem is I'm living off the grid and have only solar energy and not sure how energy consuming will it be to make the loom or if my printer even will work on my battery 🤷
Neat project However why did you decide to copy the Ashford Katie loom which is know for its lack of ability to be scaled up instead of a loom design that can be scaled up wider than 12 inches of weaving width?
The loom is not intended to be larger. Most 3D printers reach their limits here. Why is it not scalable? Could you explain that to me? In principle, I don't see any contradiction here. Sure, the foldable design means you reach the limits of the load capacity at some point. And once it reaches a certain size, folding it up no longer makes sense.
You can download the files here: www.etsy.com/at/listing/1777549253/3d-printed-table-loom-with-8-shafts?click_key=e0be3b7e690ee3934ff8b3250c38446377d133ed%3A1777549253&click_sum=cb257ece&ref=shop_home_active_2&crt=1&sts=1
No you almost certainly can't, you need to be able to achieve much higher tension than plastic can support to weave anything lace weight. There's a reason looms are made with hardwood rollers and beams at minimum.
3D printed parts are extremely resistant and metal rods are installed at the critical points with high forces. Metal rods in combination with 3D printed parts is a very rigid connection. I don't think you can tension the warp threads so tightly that the frame bends. There are only compressive forces and no bending moments. This makes it as rigid as with wood.
There are similarities with various looms. However, it is not a copy. Unfortunately, I don't have a wooden loom. And it was too expensive for me to buy one. If you already have a 3D printer, you can just print it out 😁
Very interesting. Have you also seen Oluwaseyi Sosanya's 3D weaving machine? ua-cam.com/video/rhRCtXcioiA/v-deo.html I especially like the way that you employed rubber bands as fasteners. This is the way! Is it possible to alter this so that I can use it for making wristband sized braids?
so why not 3d printing sewing machine. instead. I mean using 3d printer with a sewing tool head. yes two more degrees of freedom over normal sewing machine. instead of using your hands.
Lifetime is the rarest commodity you can own. For some it's a waste of time, for others it's the greatest and most creative hobby there is. Constructing is like painting pictures or creating a sculpture. A highly creative process ;-)
@@FraensEngineeringI'll offer a contrasting viewpoint: I saved days of work by watching you do this instead of doing it myself 😂 Subscribing to see your future iterations.
Always amazes me how you can get yourself to understand complicated machinery so well that you can design and build your own like this. Really impressive
Well, I've been doing this for over 15 years in a full-time job. You see and learn a lot. Design work is about solving problems. Everywhere you look there are problems to solve. You develop a high level of problem-solving potential over time. If, like me, you spend 8-9 hours in a company and the rest of the day at home working with machines, you can design a loom quite quickly.
@@FraensEngineering What job exactly did you have? I'm very interested in starting an engineering carrer, i'm just a 20 y/o :)
I work as a detail designer for packaging machines in a company in Austria. There are always new applications to design, which makes the work very varied.
It helps that people were building these of wood, string, and leather a thousand years ago. The big problems are well solved.
You underestimate the power of research and development. If you are an engineer you understand these things.
Thank you for being so concise and informative - this looks amazing! Have been trying to find channels that make tools and machines with 3D printing, and here you are :) Ty from Norway
Started my afternoon watching 3D print tutorials and some how ended up learning how a loom works and how to create weave patterns. Youtuibe algorithm is pretty crazy at times.
Haha, that's really cool. Looms are a great thing ;-)
I really want to make this but I forgot how tedious setting up loom can be. Thank you for creating this and making it available, weaving is another lost art. Very thorough video and well thought out.
Yes, you're right. Nobody thinks about how our fabrics are made anymore. I hope I was able to make a contribution to bringing this forgotten art back to life.
Looms may be really tedious to set up but once it's set up.....
Its really tedious to operate
Lol. Weaving is definitely not a lost art. At minimum numerous factory workers, factory designers, and weave designers(or whatever they are called) know the process. That is the minimum that would remain until the day we stop wearing clothes. That is probably at least a million people. But past the minimum weaving is an active hobby.
I’ve seen some other loom projects, but this is one of the most “clean” builds I’ve seen, amazing work as always!
(Also that bit on pattern design is really interesting and I’ll have to read up on all that!)
I'm glad you like it. That motivates me. The number of patterns you can make with it is extremely large. Depending on the tension of the threads and sequences, the variation is almost infinite.
Absolutely incredible, i have a phenomenal amount of respect for all the effort making this and using it must have taken.
Thank you very much for the kind words ;-)
This is amazing! Ive been working with a weaving teacher (@Acton Creative here on UA-cam) and this would be so amazing to interest younger makers who might have access to a 3D printer but can't afford a loom.
Like me!
Yes, looms cost a lot of money. I think I have created a cost-effective approach to weaving.
@@FraensEngineering How much did you spend on hardware?
One of your coolest projects yet! Amazing how much work it takes just to set up the loom.
Setting up the loom is a relatively large effort. With industrial machines, this can take days. My small one took about 1-2 hours to set up. But it is quite pleasant work. You can't stress yourself and you have to stay focused.
That's reason why most industrial looms mostly stay threaded up, even when you mothball them for a while.
"Just re-knotting something" is relatively fast to do even if you have to do error hunting down the line.
There are tools that can do that semi automatically. You'll need those if your thread count is in the thousand or you'll never see the end of it.
But threading something up completely from scratch is a GIANT PITA... and it takes days if you're lucky.
Great project - Being an electronics guy, I would add a small ESP32 processor and some LEDs above each of the lifter levers so that the pattern could be displayed without looking at a piece of paper, but even without modification, what an awesome project.
That's a great idea. I'm currently considering whether I can create a kind of Dobby loom as an upgrade. But the LED is a really good idea.
@@FraensEngineering And using an ESP32, you should be able to make it wireless. While it might be overkill, the software package WLED could probably be set up to display the pattern required. And since it supports button inputs, you could have a "Next" button to advance the pattern. Plus, you could probably download new patterns wireless using the app. I have only played around with WLED a little, so it might not be as easy as I think, but that is where I would start. And WLED is free, so it cost nothing but a small led strip to play with it.
That would be even better with an app. I have a lot of experience with Arduino. As far as I know, the ESP is not much different. You could provide hundreds or thousands of patterns to download. Maybe even an open collection where anyone could upload their patterns. Oh man, you just triggered my brain extremely 😂
For now, however, I would like to build a purely mechanical solution. I'm imagining something along the lines of a punch card. The advantage of a mechanical solution would be that anyone can build it without any electrical knowledge. But I think a display using LEDs and an app would be really cool. I have a programmer friend who could certainly create such a web application.
@@FraensEngineering I like the punch card idea - I assume you intend to 3d print that card. What a great mixture of technologies - punch cards from the early 1900's and 3d printing from the 2000's.
I don't know exactly how to do it yet. But I think it will be a chain that is fitted with bolts. And I think I'll build the mechanics on top. But I'm still sitting in front of a sheet of paper where I'm writing down my first ideas.
Now this is amazing. One of the more creative usage of 3dprinting I have ever seen
Above all, wooden looms with 8 shafts are extremely expensive. They cost around €1000. My loom can be made for a fraction of the cost.
Very cool! Any plans to add Jaquard-style punch cards to program the weave? I think it would be really cool to have a 3D printed desktop version of one of the first programmable machines ever invented.
Yes, I am thinking about it. I have started to construct a loom that operates the shafts by means of lifting magnets. However, this is a very large and lengthy project. There are still many problems to solve. Let's see if and when I start this project.
An automatic Poststamp applier would be sick.
Keep up the great work !
I'm working on it. But this is a somewhat more extensive project that will certainly take longer.
Unglaublich! Ganz toll!!!! Danke für's Zeigen
Sehr gerne 😊
This is a really clean build! I would never have considered something like this. Weaving is something I've always wanted to do, but to be honest, warping the loom is just not something I'm ever going to be good at :D
I must honestly say that I have also discovered a new passion in myself. Weaving is really great fun. It never gets boring because you always have to be on the ball, otherwise mistakes can quickly creep in. Perfect for keeping your mind fit in old age.
Ashford has a good video and if you don't got crazy it's not too bad. Just don't hurry.
I am truly amazed at how skilled you need to be to be able to design something like this loon machine! I'm guessing you're some kind of engineer?
Yes, I have been working as a design engineer in mechanical engineering for many years. These are my favorite mechanical projects ;-)
Holy crap! That blew the 4 shaft i was designing out of the water! A lot of those design ideas are absolutely amazing!
I will give myself some grace, I haven't studied loom design, just looked at the basic mechanics and have been winging it the past 6 years, but man, this is a treat. I just wish I had time to put into designing my own looms.
I did figure out how to make heddles out of wire with a jig I made. Let me know if you ever need that.
Yes, looms are a great thing. There are so many different designs. They are my second favorite machine after the steam engine. I'm currently working on a Dobby update. I hope it works as well as the loom.
@@FraensEngineering I cant wait to see it! From what I've seen so far, I've only just been blessed by the algorithm with this channel, you definitely have the skills for it. I can't wait to see your take on it. I was thinking of putting an Arduino kit on mine for progressing the pattern automatically to speed up the weaving process.
I'm designing my little four shaft loom mostly as an introduction to four shaft weaving. It only has a 10in weft so it's more portable and not as bulky as a table loom or a floor loom, something you can safely take out with you in a way people knit anywhere and everywhere. Right now it's made of 90% laser cut wooden parts.
I also have the frame for a 32 shaft loom I designed for a welding class as my final project. I really should finish that. That stainless steel was expensive.
What you are building sounds very interesting and I would be very curious to see pictures. Controlling my loom with an Arduino is the next step if the Dobby mechanism works. Can I find your design somewhere on the internet?
What you are building sounds very interesting and I would be very curious to see pictures. Controlling my loom with an Arduino is the next step if the Dobby mechanism works. Can I find your design somewhere on the internet?
I love your videos I genuinely wish there were more channels like yours. This is the perfect application for 3D-Printing and I don't see many people complete machines like this.
I wouldn't mind seeing you make some home appliances like something foot peddle powered (like old singer sewing machines) or or hand crank powered (like grain mills), a printing press would be cool too.
Either way good stuff.
Thank you very much for your words of praise.
I'm always on the lookout for new projects. But the machines have to meet certain criteria. They should not be too extremely complex. Otherwise I need a lot of time to design and test them. They should also be machines that can be copied by others. If it gets too complicated, it can be very difficult for others. I also want to use as few standard parts as possible to keep the costs down. It's not always easy to find suitable projects that don't take up too much time and effort. You have to find a middle way.
My next project is to take up an old one and redesign it. I want to completely redesign my cigarette tamping machine. This project has always been in 1st place for 2 years.
Super cool and pattern code was very well explained. Next step is to automate that thing, cnc table loom or something 😋👍
Yes, an automatic solution would be really cool.
So glad that i discovered your channel, this is absolutely amazing! 🤩
I'm glad you like it.
Impressive!!! You are truly a MAKER! Please keep it doing! If anything we can assisit, we'd love to give our full support!
Super clever and beautiful design. Nice. My dad was a loomfixer and weaver. Brings back good memories. I had to turn down the background music though. Deeply annoying after 10 seconds.
I'm glad you like it. You can turn off the music ;-)
at first i was confused why your father would have that job, then you made the comment about music, then i looked at your picture and it all clicked...... longgggg time ago.
Thank you for creating this! I'm interested in a simplified power table loom for those who want to home-produce fabric. I think there might be a market in people who may not be textile enthusiasts but like the idea of maintaining the ability to make their own fabric should they wish to. That would mean a simplified pattern-less loom probably, so its easier to understand and fix, but might be also more rugged if the ability to make a pattern is taken out.
Hi, what you write sounds very interesting. Write me an e-mail if you like FraensEngineering@gmx.at
Really love this, I wanted a wooden table loom for awhile now but it's been way above my budget. It looks kind of width extendable too(though that would be a future me problem).
The high price also put me off. That's why I designed one.
Back at it 💪
Ooooooh very cool!
It's my favorite machine. I never knew weaving was so much fun. There's something extremely relaxing about it. But you can also make it very complex. Depending on the pattern you use.
I finished building mine this morning and so far it looks great and everything runs smoothly. The one and only tricky spot I've found so far is that the two center shafts won't operate properly, the screws at the bottom of the frame that retains the elastics are interfering with the bottom lever bearings and will only move about halfway through their range. I'm going to continue investigating it to see if I can resolve the issue (probably just find some screws with shorter heads). Overall though it's a terrific design and printed fantastically!
I am very pleased that everything worked out. Regarding your problem: Do you think the screws are getting stuck in the side panels? It would be great if you could upload some pictures on Etsy. I would love to see other people's looms.
By the way, I am in the process of designing an upgrade. I want to extend the loom so that it can be operated with a kind of 3D printed punched card. Then it would be possible to weave very complex designs.
But that's it for today. I have to go to bed 😂
Hi - I purchased the design files and plan to have the loom printed. What was your cost?
Amazing job!!!👏👏
Amazing !!!
Excellent! Get weaving!
Yes, it really is a nice hobby. For men too ;-)
This looks interesting. Would definitely want to build it!
Yes, it's a really great project. I've discovered a new passion for myself 😁
THIS IS AMAZING!
Awesome, nice work!
❤❤
nice design 😀
That's awesome!
I was about to sub til I saw that I already was...back when I saw your lenses video.
This makes me want to build a sock knitting machine. Especially with how fast my socks wear out, if I could just make a new one within a day it'd be so much better. I can hand knit them, but it takes a couple of weeks for one sock and it's not particularly durable.
That sounds interesting. Do you have a link to it?
@@FraensEngineering I couldn't find the original video, which may not have had the title I think it did, but found this one and he's got other videos on making socks mechanically: ua-cam.com/video/2y1gakl4IEw/v-deo.html
Ah. I've seen that before. Great machine.
I wonder how a double bed machine stacks up compared to a CSM for socks.
Great work, budy . In Peru they were doing very sophisticated textiles out of wool and cotton. Paracas Culture and was done 2300 years ago before Jesus. Keyword -> textiles paracas . . .
Very interesting. Thank you very much. I will have a look at that.
Can you make a Leavers Lace machine? And digitise the input system? I tried reading how it works and my brain hurt. This loom was super cool!
Hi, do you have a link to such a machine?
Wow amazing job.
How Do you produce this good looking surfaces?
I have a Bambulab. It makes it so clean out of the box.
@@FraensEngineering Well, thank you for answering! Weiter so!
Impressive!.. mybe you should make rope making machine.. like those dynema ot climbing ones
Rope machine? I did it: ua-cam.com/video/4jdi63u2LKI/v-deo.html 😁
amazing!
thats really cool! Any plans to make this into a jacquard loom?
I am in the process of upgrading the loom. It is getting a dobby unit.
Awesome stuff! I am considering buying a Bambu Lab P1S. What type of filament did you use?
I used PLA.
Weißte jetzt warum ich kein Weber bin xD
Super Arbeit!
Ja, ich habe mich für die einfachere Variante entschieden. Die automatische bringt sehr viele Probleme mit sich. Aber irgendwann mache ich weiter damit ;-)
@@FraensEngineering Ey alleine das Teil zu bauen und zu benutzen bringt viel Erfahrung.
Einfach sacken lassen, die zündende Idee kommt.
Ich muss sagen, weben macht richtig Spaß. Man muss ständig mit dem Kopf bei der Sache bleiben. Das fängt beim Schären der Kette an, geht weiter zum einfädeln und dann natürlich noch die Schaftkombinationen. Eigentlich ein perfektes Hobby für ältere Menschen um im Kopf fit zu bleiben.
@@FraensEngineering Ähhhh... da kann ich nur bedingt zustimmen 🤣
Aber ja, Weber ist ein recht anspruchsvoller Beruf. Weil er multidisziplinär ist.
Mechanik, Topologie aka Bindungslehre, und logisches Verständnis brauchst schon um brauchbar zu sein.
Wird leider total unterschätzt.
Fachkräfte findest kaum noch.
Ausbilden ist ne Katastrophe weil es weniger als 5 Schulen gibt in DE die das noch machen.
Aber erst mal nen Azubi finden...
This really looks great! But I can't find a link to the "don't have a 3d printer version" both in this description and your website, Etsy says there is no item. I'm currently a weaver and in classes on a 4 shaft loom. I'm really. Intrigued to play with this, but I don't really want to learn to 3d print when I'd rather be weaving. 😊
Hello, do you have the option to print externally? Unfortunately, I don't have the capacity to print the loom at the moment.
@@FraensEngineering That's understandable. It's a lot of parts. There are maker spaces but I just moved and have been getting the lay of the land. Is it possible with this loom to make it wider by using a longer screw and increase the number of sections on things like the heddles and beater?
Theoretically, you could make it wider. But it requires a few hours of design work. I have already constructed a 50 and a 60 reed.
Feels like a handful of cheap electromagnetic servos and a string round a bobbin on a rod connected to a motor and wheel to wind/unwind would permit it to be automated simply?
(+microcontroller/lcd)
Some parts of this are quite good, but definitely not for anything high tension, fine woven, or for longevity. I appreciate the pully addition, though I personally would have taken more inspiration from louet rather than the ashford Katie (especially since it's plastic). Louet have a very elegant pulley system on all their looms, and it probably would help to relieve some of the stress on the plastic frames if you did some more research into their technique. Anyone attempting this should arrange at least thick plywood for the frames and beater (lazer cutting patterns might help), and not compramise on the beams or rollers, just buy a couple of rolling pins and some hardwood skirting board, it will last and add a lot of tension capabilities. The plastic shaft ends are a great idea, as well as all the small parts, but plastic reeds are a bit silly when you can get real ones online. I don't even know why you would go through the trouble of printing an 8 shafter if you will need a beating stick to get the sett right anyway, at that point you're going slower than a rigid heddle loom.
Anyone intending to try this should go to their local weaving guild and try a real one first, you will understand which parts will be problematic, and probably get enough spare parts for free or cheap to make something that will last and produce quality cloth. If this isn't an option for you, you should consider rigid heddle weaving first.
Hello, I can't understand your concerns. Do you have a 3D printer? Or do you know about the strength of 3D printed parts? The frame is very stable. I don't think I can stretch the warp threads so tightly that the plastic parts wouldn't hold. Metal rods are installed at the critical points. Tensioning the warp threads is absolutely no problem and works perfectly.
Of course you can buy parts. But that was not the aim of the project. It should be a loom that anyone can build with a 3D printer and as cheaply as possible. The nice thing about it is that you hardly have to invest any work because the 3D printer does it all by itself.
The wooden slats you suggested are not needed because metal threaded rods are used in the places with high loads. This allows it to be attached very tightly and thus produce a dense fabric. Are you a weaver or a designer?
The design is such that only compressive forces are generated and no bending moments. 3D printed parts are very strong under compressive stress and comparable to wood. Especially if the stressed parts are printed like my loom.
I already own a 8 shaft Ashford table loom - which I can see this is drawing a lot of inspiration - I might print this for sampling. What the EPI on the Reed? 10, 12?
Hello, there are 40 slots per 10cm on the reed.
My plan is also to use this loom for sampling. The best part is the loom will be easily transportable. What was the cost to you for the 3D printing?
Hi, the cost of 3D printing is not very high if you print it yourself. You need about 1.5 kg of filament and about 40-50 hours of printing time. But I can't say how much it costs to print from a supplier.
What's the space between the heddle bars? I'd love to use TexSolv heddles (I've got a bunch of them). Also, is there a combined file / package for just the dobby version? I don't want to print parts for the manual version only to not use them - it's the dobby feature I'm most excited about.
The distance between them is 125 mm. Write me an email to tell me exactly what you need. I'm sure we can find a solution (FraensEngineering@gmx.at)
That's awesome, how many grams of filament were used in printing it?
Thank you very much. About 1.3 kg were used.
Wow, incredible! I considered a 3d printed rigid heddle loom, but 8 shafts, w-a-n-t!
How much filament did it take?
About 1.3 kg of filament is required.
@@FraensEngineering thank you! Not that much even.
Brilliant work!
…now make it automatic!
That's the plan ;-)
@@FraensEngineeringcan’t waittttt.
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I would be interested in varying reed densities (slots per cm).
That is not a problem. I can change it according to your wishes. The current reed has 40 slots per 10 cm.
How large is the largest 3D printed piece? (I need to know if it fits on my build plate) And what are the dimensions of the loom after assembly?
Hello, you should have at least 220x220mm building platform. Better would be 250x250mm
@ Thanks!
My 3d printer collects the dust, but if ladies in the weaving club are interested, I can try to replicate this. The problem is I'm living off the grid and have only solar energy and not sure how energy consuming will it be to make the loom or if my printer even will work on my battery 🤷
Neat project
However why did you decide to copy the Ashford Katie loom which is know for its lack of ability to be scaled up instead of a loom design that can be scaled up wider than 12 inches of weaving width?
The loom is not intended to be larger. Most 3D printers reach their limits here. Why is it not scalable? Could you explain that to me? In principle, I don't see any contradiction here. Sure, the foldable design means you reach the limits of the load capacity at some point. And once it reaches a certain size, folding it up no longer makes sense.
What size printed is needed for this. I have 2 printers but the bigger one isnt very accurate and the other is on the small side.
A print bed of 250x250x250mm is required.
Will this fit on a Bambu A1 mini print bed?
Hello, I am planning a version that goes to 180x180mm for printing. Currently the print bed should have 250x250mm.
@@FraensEngineering Awesome, thank you! very cool build.
do you sell this set up for someone like myself who don't know how to ed print but wants one of these
Hi, unfortunately I don't have the capacity to offer physical products. Sorry about that.
@@FraensEngineering no worries do you sale the file or you just showing what you build, this is really nice
You can download the files here: www.etsy.com/at/listing/1777549253/3d-printed-table-loom-with-8-shafts?click_key=e0be3b7e690ee3934ff8b3250c38446377d133ed%3A1777549253&click_sum=cb257ece&ref=shop_home_active_2&crt=1&sts=1
@@FraensEngineering Thank you so much
can you use smaller thread?
Yes, you can of course also use smaller threads.
No you almost certainly can't, you need to be able to achieve much higher tension than plastic can support to weave anything lace weight. There's a reason looms are made with hardwood rollers and beams at minimum.
3D printed parts are extremely resistant and metal rods are installed at the critical points with high forces. Metal rods in combination with 3D printed parts is a very rigid connection. I don't think you can tension the warp threads so tightly that the frame bends. There are only compressive forces and no bending moments. This makes it as rigid as with wood.
are you aware that your headles don't have to be printed? You can use string and knot it in a specific way, and it's hella cheaper.
Is there a manual for this? It would be really great to make them myself.
@@FraensEngineering any weaving book or online will show you how. You can also buy ladder heddles that are pre-knotted.
Also thought so but how do we tie the knot so you get the eye?
ua-cam.com/video/UD_oBJ0umsc/v-deo.html Found a video for replacing heddles
Looks like a plastic copy of an Ashford Katie loom.
There are similarities with various looms. However, it is not a copy. Unfortunately, I don't have a wooden loom. And it was too expensive for me to buy one. If you already have a 3D printer, you can just print it out 😁
instructions unclear, vibing to beat.
cults3d.com/de/modell-3d/werkzeuge/3d-printed-stuffing-machine
Very interesting.
Have you also seen Oluwaseyi Sosanya's 3D weaving machine?
ua-cam.com/video/rhRCtXcioiA/v-deo.html
I especially like the way that you employed rubber bands as fasteners. This is the way!
Is it possible to alter this so that I can use it for making wristband sized braids?
The machine looks interesting. But I'm not quite sure exactly what it does.
@@FraensEngineering I am not sure either, but it looks as though it has some interesting potential.
It seems like it does some kind of solid-fill basketry-esque weave to me
this seems complicated,
With the right technique, it's not that difficult. But you have to work with concentration.
Bro please working electric loom 8 frames
Yes, I'm working on it. However, this is an extremely extensive and complex project. It will certainly take some time.
so why not 3d printing sewing machine. instead. I mean using 3d printer with a sewing tool head. yes two more degrees of freedom over normal sewing machine. instead of using your hands.
Yes, that would certainly be possible. With the right know-how, a lot can be solved with 3D printing.
Because they didn’t make a sewing machine. They made a loom.
incredible waste of time moving on.
Lifetime is the rarest commodity you can own. For some it's a waste of time, for others it's the greatest and most creative hobby there is. Constructing is like painting pictures or creating a sculpture. A highly creative process ;-)
@@FraensEngineeringI'll offer a contrasting viewpoint: I saved days of work by watching you do this instead of doing it myself 😂
Subscribing to see your future iterations.
Horrible music.
I think it's great.
But as we all know, taste is debatable ;-)