Screen Printing - Then vs Now (How Ryan Got Started)
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- DIY screen printing wasn't always so easy. From exposing in the sun to curing in the oven, Ryan Moor talks about how much everything has changed since he first started on his personal screen printing journey.
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The turning off the bathroom lights and then "damn it I spilled the emulsion" is exactly me in my last few at home tries with screen printing. I just got my DIY single print press today and I can't wait to try it out!
+Liam Vella Oh no! I hope it goes great this time, give us a shout if you need any help!
Came here to learn how to screen print. I haven't learned much, but I still think its cool how much this industry has evolved. Cool video
+Ricky Bout Well, thanks for watching! We have other videos that take you through the whole process start to finish. Here is a link to our DIY at home printing tutorial ua-cam.com/video/eCZbmoWZlGE/v-deo.html If you need anything else, tag us in a comment and we'll help out any way we can!
man I feel so much better, how you guys started is how we started! can't wait to reach you guys level!
Man you are a genius! Go Ryan! You inspire us all.
South Horizon Thank you and thanks for watching!
40 years ago, my foster parents had a silk screening business...they have passed away, but their business lives on (going strong) with one of their sons running it. I used to love making myself tshirts with cool prints from the 70's...
Its funny to look back at how you started. My start was very similar and now i have a store front. Keep Calm and Print On!!!
Awesome, we love hearing stories like that.
Hi Ryan- Some of the finest silk screen printing done on fabric by the top Luxury craftsmen of the world (aka Hermes for silkscreen printed scarves) is done employing the old back in the day techniques that you talked about- I have been to their workshop in France and seen as many as 20 colors on 1 scarf being silk screened without any press. And the workmanship is superb. Machines though good for commercial purposes just end up making people less skilled. Your video gives an impression that the back in the day techniques were cruder than present day techniques.
+Tommy Jones great comment, Tommy, thanks for watching! There are many old back in the day techniques that still translate to today and work well if not better than other methods. That said, the techniques used in this video were absolutely crude compared to the newer techniques shown in this same video. Ryan is discussing his experience with screen printing when he got started, specifically; things like using a puddy knife in a dark room for emulsion, and exposing in the sun vs using a focused exposure unit.
On top of this, using a press absolutely reduces one's skills with older techniques, but in turn creates a new skill for a more efficiency minded individual. The screen printing press is not made to exclude other portions or styles of printing processes, but to compliment them and make them accessible to a commercial audience :)
That's awesome! Thanks for watching!
your video make me smile, i`m from venezuela and i begun a screen printing shop with 2 of my friends.. :) with effort you can success in everything you want
Jesus Alvarez yes!
Ryan, I don't comment on many youtube videos at all and I can't remember the last time I commented on a video on a company's official youtube channel, but I just wanted to thank you and the team for really making this channel something special. I've been on youtube getting myself familiar with industrial screenprinting processes in preparation for a new job, and I like to learn laterally, so seeing a direct comparison between simple DIY screening and modern industrial processes was not only exactly what I didn't know I was looking for, but packaged in a genuinely inspiring way, too. Best wishes from an industry newbie in Dayton, OH!
Occurs to me that the company is big enough by now that it's probably not Ryan I'm addressing here -- best wishes to everyone who's working the social media outreach these days. :)
Thank you so much for the kind words and continued inspiration for more fellow screen printer!! Ryan still gets on here from time to time so maybe he will come by to say hi! I4 there is anything we can ever do to help your journey, please don't hesitate to ask. We love helping others discover where their passions lie in this awesome industry. Happy printing my man!!
That's the quality screen print I'm looking for! Top-notch stuff!
I don't know but this almost made me cry xD very inspiring af! thanks ryonet!
props on all the success Ry!
Thank you so much Sean! We wouldn't be where we are without the support of rad screen printers everywhere! Props to them!!
I am All In since i spoke to you in last April.. I bought a Silver Press 6 color 2 station and Love you training vids. Thank you for helping me come Successful. University of Key West - Angelo. Getting stated with all of my designs. I will burst the universe soon with the koolest stuff of Key West as we discussed. You made this come to life. Thank YOU!
dude, your presentation in this video was so freaking good. like I just really enjoyed watching it
Thanks for watching Elliot!
Awesome video! Keep up the great work, your stuff is always extremely helpful to us 'non-professional' screen printers!
By far my favorite video you guys have.
Thank you! Awesome compliment!
watching this for my screenprinting class, this dude has great technique!
Feel free to email us at info@ryonet.com
That's what we love to hear!
How they used to do it is almost exactly how I've been doing it haha! I've only been printing for about 2 months now, but I'm loving this new aspect of my design career.
Thanks for watching Spencer!! Its a really great way to apply your design skill and see your work come to life!! Let us know if we can ever help :)
Awesome. Thanks for the comment!
Good luck with the workshop!
Im glad I found you guys! I was doing screen printing with the Yudu a while back for a little bit..but the expense of it was greater than actually making any kind of money. So I went off of it and continued with embroidery...and now I also do HTV...but I always wanted to do screen printing. Glad to have found you guys and hopefully i can add screen printing back to my business :)
Congrats! Let us know if you ever need any help!
This is awesome. You are Awesome. Had no idea you built this empire. I'm getting into screening and this simple video has done so much for me. VERY COOL!
Thank you so much for watching! Let us know if we can ever help! :)
Nice video! I'll be learning how to screen print at College soon for our project designing T-shirts and bags.. This has helped me a lot. Thank you Ryonet!
Agreed with X Hover! This is my favorite video from you guys now!
This is very inspiring. Thank you Ryonet for this video. I have just started my printing jobs now.
Thank you for watching Leo! Let us know if we can ever help with anything at all. Congrats on getting things printing!!
Thanks Ryonet, For answering my question. I'll give it a try.
We're stoked to hear that you like this video!
Shirt Space Dot Com is the our favorite!
excellent video ryonet:) plus i like how you put some humor into the video too...writing a research paper on screen printing,,,this helped a lot thx!
jess valadez Thanks Jess, good luck on your paper! Ryan
this is such an awesome video. we definitely used old school methods in art school, but i've always wondered what kinds of equipment other printers used. thanks:)
maybe one day i'll have my own setup! i'll keep you guys in mind for sure.
Keep printing!
Hi guys! Congratulations for what you've achieved. I feel very motivated by this videos, and I hope to get as far as you are. Regards from Argentina.
Awesome video. Definitely inspiring to see comparisons of your journey from where you started to where you are now. It is possible! Also makes me feel better about the printing mistakes I'm making now.. haha
A Prytula Right on! Keep that ink flowin'!
Great story ,great presentation. Enjoyed the watch bro!
X-it Corporate - Screen Printing
Thanks for watching!
Nice to know about fans of Dan Pink.
Excellent application of the Pixar pitch :D
Also greetings from Romania.
Thank you! That's exactly who we got the idea from!
Thank you for this video. I have been reading books about it, seen interesting things and wanted to see a detailed step by step process, the comparison past and present screen printing or manual and digital is really informative.
Nialee Mass Thanks for checking it out!
we used water based R2o ink for the black and plastisol Ryopaque ink for the lime.
hey bro i'm from Philippines i enjoy watching your video. it reminds me the first time we learned screen printing together with my friends. Thank to your video and i hope that i may established my own silkscreen printing soon. Keep on making videos that motivates our printing spirits hahhahahaha
Hey, thanks for the encouragement! If you need any help with setting up your shop give our success team a call at 800-314-6390 or email them at success@ryonet.com and they can help you out with whatever you need!
What's wrong with the sun?! haha. Great vid guys, it's amazing how much the industry has done to ease the path into printing.
Nice and helpful video +Ryonet
Ryonet Hey guys, GREAT videos and thank you for sharing your success with the public. Now in terms of the hobby kit, I saw that on the website it was discontinued. Will that be the case forever or can we have any hopes of it coming back? Im really aspiring to screen print at an affordable price so that I can ultimately buy an expensive screen print package you guys offer.
Thanks for the educational videos. Best screen printing company I've ever seen online
Very inspiring and exciting!
+BLUE 731 Thank you for watching! :)
Thank you for sharing and commenting!
your made this video so freaking good.
And it helps me with my printing a lot! Thanks! :)
That's awesome! Thank you!
Really interested and nice how you got started!
Thanks for the comment. Happy printing!
brings back memories.
Hey i would like to start off doing this....i love this screen printing thing.
I used to cure in a household oven too. Was always nervous what the turkey would taste like come thanksgiving XD
thanks for this video im looking for this work at home
Thank you so much for watching! :)
I really enjoyed this video!
had a similar start as well. All homemade. ruined a few first jobs. used that money to buy equipment. difference is you had an idea of what you were doing. haha we were just winging it
+thetshirtguy100 Rad! Thanks for watching, keep powering the print!
Thanks for the comment.
thank you for the great video! I am frm Singapore and really appreciate it(:
Thanks Rodrigo!
I love the ego force squeegees, they were a great buy
Cool video I love this.
Thank you!
Thanks for your comment!
That's awesome!
Hey Ryan, this is a great video. I've never learnt abt screen printing the way i am learning in your videos, thank you so much for everything. I went to your web site cause i wanna buy some screen printing equipments, but you are selling your domain, why??? it was a heart breaking for me... Thank you again for everything
+Rachel Sangara We're so happy you find the videos helpful. We are not selling our domain, it's www.screenprinting.com Check it out and let us know what you think!
Oh thank you so much Ryan Moor, i just found it. My bad, i was visiting a wrong web site.
Thanks a lot!
Thanks X Hover!
woww. those equipment cost two or three hundred thousand dollar here and even more!
nice to hear your journey of screen printing. experiences are far more important! good luck for you business!
the most important thing i learned from finding out what screen printing is is that it's something i will never be able to do.
Thank you for making this video. Very interesting.
michaelpoczynek Thanks for commenting!
You should find us on Facebook username 'Ryonet" and send us some photos. Subscribe to our channel as well. We have some more videos coming soon.
WOw lot of work thank God for you guys i"ll just continue to design art an let you guys screen print it (y)
They don't screen print as far as I know they are a print supplier. They want you to print for yourself.
Thank you. What's the title of it? Love to watch it!
Ryan. You inspired me. I uploaded a video of our web printing presses on my channel too. THanks!
Wow Argentina! That's amazing. Feel free to subscribe for more and ask as many questions as you need.
Long post incoming.
This equipment is OK for beginners. It's literally sold as a package on their website. Most of the equipment is not good enough for professionals though. I have personally used all of the equipment showcased in this video for more than 2 years and the only equipment that I would continue to use as a professional are the metal squeegees and the backlit washout booth.
The joystick registration system on the press is just rudimentary and can be very slow and tedious for multi color setups(consider micro-registration instead). If you can't afford a newer press with micro registration consider buying an older one that has micro registration. As with basically any overworked extension spring, they will break and the ones on this press aren't excluded from that fact. If you use all of the heads equally enough, you will find that literally all of them will break within a year of the very first one. When one breaks I highly recommend that you replace them all as you'll dislike when your screen loses registration mid-job. Just be sure to replace the safety mesh on the springs when you install the new ones. It's a violent and potentially dangerous thing when they break.
The exposure unit is not good with halftone images. Preferably you would want a single point light system with the light source a calculated distance away from the screen. This exposure unit, with its multiple bulbs, cause the image to be exposed from multiple angles, which in turn cause the halftones to shrink and the smaller ones simply do not develop. This isn't just my opinion. It's a science, and I have confirmed this to be true after experimenting with the exposure unit shown in this video and an old single point light system. Using an exposure calculator I was able to determine the optimal exposure time per exposure unit, and I was sure to use the same emulsion from the same bucket, use the same coating technique, use equally tensioned screens with the same screen mesh purchased from the same supplier at the same time. The screens were also equally vacuum sealed to the glass. When comparing the two screens side by side the difference was evident. The single point light system retained more detail. Luckily The exposure unit works for most other jobs though. One unfortunate thing to consider before purchasing this unit is the exposure time. Although better than many other methods, without a fast exposing emulsion, 3-5 minutes is the normal time to get a proper exposure with this unit depending in the screen mesh and stencil thickness. Most professional exposure units do it in 30 seconds to a minute and a half. That's a huge difference, and a deciding factor on whether or not you’ll have enough time to finish printing your jobs each day, depending on how many screens you need to expose. The difference is 60 minutes vs 10 minutes for exposing 20 screens. Assuming you don't have a system to quickly dry the screens you'll need to factor in the time required to allow the screens to dry,and at the end of the day, you could lose many hours of production just messing around with screens. Having a quick exposing exposure unit is one of the best ways to reduce time spent fooling around with screens.
Ryan has a great sales pitch, but I wouldn't buy most of his equipment. Maybe he does know the limitations of his equipment but doesn't share them(because why would he?). But, alas, I can't know for sure if he's aware that he's selling comparitably sub-par equipment at a higher price. The fact remains that there just isn't much competition for exactly what his company offers in an online market, which is certainly attributable to his success. Though that could soon change. If you don't have a good local graphics supply store nearby, then consider buying some of the many supplies that he offers on his website. Many of the consumables are professional grade, just rebranded. Otherwise please consider supporting your local economy.
You will occasionally see advice from people who have been printing for 10+ years. They will do their best to offer you advice, and sometimes they will do a good job. Unfortunately, unbeknownst to them, their ways are often antiquated in today's screen printing industry. Very few people know the actual science behind screen printing. Many people continue to use old techniques, which are simply incorrect. Additionally there are small nuances that separate yesterday's professionals from today's. Simply put: Older, in this industry, does not mean better, and I have found that it is often case with older screen printers. To add to that, there is a ton of really bad misinformation that has been spread between screen printers throughout the years.
If you truly want to know whether or not the company you're considering purchasing screen printed shirts from knows their stuff or not talk to the owner. If he doesn't know how to do the separations effectively for efficient printing, clean and decrease screens properly, expose screens variably based on emulsion type and screen mesh, set up jobs efficiently, and actually print, then you may just get less than perfect results. Thst is unless, of course, the boss has people that do that for him(still not the best way to go, because then boss man will make promises that he's unsure he can fulfill).
Find somebody that really knows their stuff. The biggest tale tale sign is their screens. Are the frames of the "clean screens" coated with ink and emulsion? Are there multiple ghost images in the mesh? Nick's and tears in the mesh? If so, consider looking elsewhere.
Corbin, hey it's Ryan. Thank you for the long comment and insight here on our channel. We are a continuing evolving business but our values of continuous improvement and service have driven us to continually change, evolve, and improve what we do, how we do it, and how we can better service the screen printer. For others reading this post Corbin's screen printing acumen is on point here and a lot of what we have done recently from our equipment and supply strategy supports his sentiment i.e. micro vs joystick (more Riley's are being offered now with Mirco's vs joystick because printers often prefer the precision over the flexibility) and the Single Point exposure which we've developed a Single Source LED with Saati that has taken off and producing amazing results for printers who are using them. We will continue to work hard, stick to our values, so we can build solutions and products that help screen printers move forward at which ever level they are looking to do so! Thanks again! Ryan
thank very good demo...thanks a lot
That's an Epson 1100 but now we use an Epson 1430 and AccuRIP
You're too kind! :)
No white needed on a gray shirt and typically not with Ryopaque anyway because its print flash print.
Dude!
Great way you started! Great history!
That film you use... works with any printer? A home printer? Or maybe with a Docucolor by Xerox?
Your company has shipment to México?
Christian Cazares We do www.screenprinting.co.uk/
This video is awesome! Nice to see where you started from. Where would I find good quality shirts at wholesale price
We only have stickers that say that. Sorry. Perhaps soon we'll make some shirts though!
A kitchen oven works fine to properly cure plastisol, if you do it right. You don't bake it, you use the broiler (assuming your oven has the broiler element up top, like most of them do; if it doesn't, then you're out of luck). Once the broiler element is red hot, put the shirt on the lowest rack (farthest from broiler), leave the oven door open, and monitor the temperature of the plastisol with an IR temperature gun. When the plastisol print gets up above 320 F it is cured. I aim for about a 340 to 350 F surface temperature, to make sure the plastisol is hot enough all the way through.
Here's a white-on-black (print-flash-print) plastisol print I made for a friend, which I cured in a kitchen oven like I described above (he chose that bizarre design, not me):
i.imgur.com/6bxGoRR.jpg
He sent me that picture after about a year of weekly wear; about 50 trips through the washer and dryer. No cracking or flaking whatsoever.
On the other hand, all store-bought white plastisol printed T-shirts I've ever had started cracking after just a few/several trips through the washer and dryer. That's because white-on-dark prints require a relatively thick deposit of ink for full opacity (usually print-flash-print), and of all the colors, white is the most reflective of light. This means that, given the same radiant heat source, it will take longer to reach the proper curing temperature than other colors. But a lot of pros don't bother compensating for this, i.e., they send it through their expensive conveyor dryers using the same settings as they use for one-hit black prints.
When it comes to curing plastisol, temperature is all that matters, not the equipment. You could properly cure plastisol over a camp fire if you knew what you were doing.
Killer knowledge you're hitting the people of UA-cam with man!! Would you maybe mind shooting me a hello email when you get a sec? jfranks@ryonet.com
I'd love to talk with you a bit more about this and maybe use your brain for some tips and send the love your way! This is seriously great info we'd like to share with our community, especially that example print you show. Everything you say is exactly on point and we always want our community to know all of the alternatives at their disposal :)
Ryonet
No problem. I just sent you an email.
Great video ! Thx ! 👍
This is inspiring.
How do I get a shirt that says I'd rather be screen printing?! Those are awesome!
Does the silk screen touch the shirt when you're about to make the design on the shirt?
What is the Difference between Hand Reduction screen printing and this?
Would it be a huge difference in taking a class that was focused on Hand Reduction?
Nobody here has actually worked with hand reduction directly, but I found a great video on it, which you may have seen:
ua-cam.com/video/C1abVvEUWrk/v-deo.html
It appears to incorporate the same techniques as screen printing, just another way to have fun with the process. Instead of designing a multicolor print with multiple screens, he is using one screen which manually editing the image between colors. for the chosen example, you get a rather decrepit look - pretty cool! Thanks for helping me discover this rad, old school process!
+Ryonet same person different account. I have another question for you we purchased the cryo- coat emulsion. And went to coat the screen we evenly coated one side and then the other it was sent to dry shirt side up it was put out to dry 3 hours in a dark room we have a exposure unit with six UV 20T /12D lights directly but we didn't use a piece of glass. It was left for an hour and a half when we pulled the screen off. We couldn't even see the outline of the transparency we have the Epson 1430 so we know it wasn't the film itself what is the recommended time for exposure and how far does it have to be above the light for two expose correctly?
That's a Kool video ....I've been watching all your UA-cam videos ....
I have a question it's going to be my first time screen printing and I'm a beginner so right now I don't own a infrared flash dryer right now but I seen your video and 500w light can I use the same light to flash dry the image thank you for your time
Seen I don't have a flash dryer
very interesting,thanks
exposing using sun is very quick like 3 to 5 seconds, u have to back it up with black board or something with black surface, just like the expose machine. but it needs a lot of experience to get it ryt. ^_^ sun is only my last option if their no electricity. ^_^
reanne002 thanks for the comment!
Tell us more about back in the day.
Hi. If you were to choose, which ink is more long lasting/better.. Plastisol or Water-based?
Hey, one of those band guys looks like....oh, I get it!
+Daniel Edits hah! Thanks for watching!
Greetings, good video, just start my workshop I'm your fan
Hey Ryan! Great Vid! I'm trying to start a business and some custom shirts is apart of it but I would like to get some made so what do you think is the cheapest route? Getting them made? or Making them myself? HELPPP!!
P.S. If you suggest me making them myself how can I learn?
Ask a local screen printer to print your design as a one color with black ink on a light garment. That's always going to be your least expensive route.
Gildian in this video but, we really like American Apparel.
this might be a stupid question, but how are you able to print a registration mark on the the film, without it exposing on to the screen, and therefore printing on to the t-shirt?
That's actually a pretty common question. The registration marks should be exposed on your screen! When you do a first print or test print you can use those marks to make sure all your screens are aligned and in registration. Once registration is dialed in, you just put some tape over the registration marks and they will no longer be printed onto your garments :) Thanks for watching!
+Ryonet That makes so much sense. thank you!
That comment's inspiring!