Coby 10.2" LCD TV 📺 Actually not terrible!
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- I like big bezels and I cannot lie.
Time flow:
0:00 Overview
1:43 Inputs
2:23 Resolution
4:46 Vintage PC test
5:12 15 kHz RGB
5:47 MDA/Hercules
6:26 Composite & S-video
7:20 Progressive scan
7:58 Retro gaming test
9:05 Input lag & luma/chroma
9:39 PAL video
9:59 Teardown
10:47 Conclusion
#lcd #tv #retrogaming - Наука та технологія
This guy is back again with another interesting video: The local drug store closing clearance section.
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I'm sure I saw these at Rite Aid.
I use to have a top loading Coby DVD player about 20 years ago, and it was not too bad for being so cheap, and for keeping in the RV my family had at the time. Also that bit at the end about the SONY VHS deck was top notch 😅👍
I had a top loading Coby DVD player and it died 1 week after the 90 day warranty lol.
Ironically, the last movie it played was "Short Circuit."
@@christophermorin9036 LOL, and yeah I worked a 2nd part time job for Dollar General back in the mid 00's - every early 2010's for 5 1/2 years, we sold some Coby stuff, and when it worked well it was a decent value, but I also saw my fair share of returns from customers, so there QC was a bit hit, and miss depending on when it was made, and who they got to do the OEM work.
Also If I remember correctly I think the Coby DVD player gave us about 6, or 7 years of service life before the remote died, and we replaced it with an "Emerson" DVD/VHS combo unit that I still have in storage as a backup unit. Far as the old RV, I helped my mother sell it last year after my stepdad died back in late 2015, and it was mostly left sitting at it's storage site, and starting to rot away.
That one was made by Samsung. You can tell because of the sound of the mechanism and the yucky 4-digit LED display that it has. Holds no candles to my SLV-777HF.
Nice use of Beautiful Thing (1996) for demo footage :-)
As for the monitor, I'm completely blown away at the 15khz support and moreso the MDA support. (even if cropped) Quite the impressive scaler!
Looks like we both have good taste in movies.😀
About 10 years ago I bought two used Coby TVs for cheap. The bezels aren't as bad as this one, but they're still huge! Not great, but still fit the needs, and price, I got them for.
A bezel is neither good nor bad… it simply…. IS
The poor antenna reception might be because you're running the TV on 800mA instead of the rated 3A. I would retest that on a proper adapter.
That's what I was thinking as well, but he might also need an antenna amp with low noise to get a good signal in his location though.
Haha was coming to suggest the same about the power.
That's exactly what I was thinking
Just use a 12V 1A adapter (those are plentiful) or a bench power supply. Measure the current at 12 V and if it doesn’t max out the adapter at full brightness & volume while decoding DTV (the highest load I can imagine), a higher-current-capable adapter will not help. You will gain reliability by underruning a PSU, though.
I’ve seen that video game before. I think it was a flop.
There's one obvious use case for the analog tuner: some older computers and video came consoles only have RF out, or may need modification to produce video over composite or via luma-chroma. This TV is great for testing such machines prior to modding them, or even just using them in their original RF glory.
Considering how little is in the bezels, with some... "modifications", you could probably shrink the monitor down a lot.
That input delay I would classify as "excellent", about +0.5 frames from CRT -- you can even see a slight rolling bar during the flashing in the latency test if you go frame-by-frame, I suspect the main source of delay here is the LCD.
To solve the resolution issues with modern computers, maybe use Custom Resolution Utility? You might have to toy with the timings a little bit, a task made harder by the fact the Intel iGPU doesn't like keeping the resolutions after a driver restart until you restart the computer. I wonder if it would handle 480i through the VGA and how high the refresh rate could go.
If you want a closer RGBI image, try thinking like a monitor designer. R, G and B are dropped to around 0.8 volts, with I adding 0.3 volts to all. Getting Brown would be a bit trickier, though. Then again, the utility of this approach is dubious compared to the effort over buying a converter...
Those Coby LCD TVs are actually decent, my roommate had one in college, they’re good for old video game consoles and watching antenna TV in certain places! The multiple inputs like coaxial, RCA, and even VGA makes it versatile for easy hookup!
I just wanted to say thanks for this video. I've had a rough day, and a VWestlife video about some old, rare, or otherwise obscure piece of tech is just what I need right now. Your timing couldn't have been better! 😊
Funny, I'm one of the people that doesn't mind large bezels. I consider them as large bumpers protecting the screen from impacts. If this thing WERE to fall off a table or shelf in your camper or whatever, the LCD would be fine.
Larger bezel bumpers are good. I lost two high end monitors due to bumps causing tiny cracks in the edge of the screens.
Be gone with your calm logic and rationale. The wolves of stupidly are prowling and will get you. 😂
How often are you knocking TVs over
@@onometre Not often, but all it takes is one trip, or one stupid cat, or tripping over a stupid cat, and boom. There goes your TV.
THANK GOD YOU PEELED THE PROTECTIVE FILM OFF!!! 😂😂😂 (I feel so much better now...)
"I knew I shouldn't have trusted a Sony VHS VCR, they wanted Beta to win".
I had a Coby tv given to me a couple years back as it was broken. It had roughly a 20" screen along with a built in DVD player, USB, and SD card slot not to bad for a tv from 2008. The tv needed all the capacitors changed in the power supply as all of them had failed. After that the tv worked fine again.
Oh my god, that Nintendo segment of you playing Super Mario Brothers brought back childhood memories! I was mesmerized watching it!! And I really wasn't that obsessed with it when we got the console and game...but it brought back memories for sure.
Thanks so much for these endlessly fascinating glimpses back at past tech. So nostalgic to think how much I coveted things back then that are so redundant now. And I feel a guilty pleasure vicariously profiting from your hobby... you search through the piles at thrift stores - so your viewers don't have to! Excellent content!
I had that exact screen. I got it in college to use while making my student film. We were shooting on hdv camcorders and needed a cheap portable screen so the director could see without crowding the cameraman. Afterward I used that as a second monitor for my pc that would only have my instant messenger on it.
I get off work and find a fresh Vwestlife upload waiting for me in my notifications. This is gonna be a good night.
For a small lower end early flatscreen TV, it does what it was designed to do! Might not be the best, but sometimes you don’t need a super high end display. Great for testing equipment and convenient considering the size. Just because the design makes it seem strange, it doesn’t mean that it’s bad. Also, the matching Sony equipment is very cool, futuristic silver design from the 2000s!
Beautiful Thing! Great film!
A respectable collection of source videos again! I don’t have the skateboard one though, I shall keep an eye out.
Still a neat little display despite the size and functional shortcomings.
A little off topic but speaking of the quality of digital antennas, I put one up l had for many years to see what how many channels it could pull in.
After scanning I could only get 13. I was rummaging around in my closet and found an old Radio Shack antenna signal booster I used when I had an analog antenna.
I hooked it up and did another scan and now I'm getting 87 channels! That booster is almost 40 years old and still works great. Great video as usual!👍🇺🇸
Wasn’t expecting to see the legend that is Linda Henry make an appearance in this video. What a beautiful thing!
Anyone British watching this video will know her as Shirley from Eastenders!
Ooh I want one now. Could be fun for taking on the road. This and a retro pie would be awesome.
Wow, what a bizarre TV. VGA input is very handy!
Happy Sunday lunchtime Mate. 👍😎🇦🇺
The thing is still running, so it's better than I thought back in the day.
Wow, I did not expect it to work with a 15kHz signal. Nice!
I like what you said at the end over Sony VCRs, as I do have one myself an SLV-SE710 from 2001 with the original remote.
My brother worked at the Coby warehouse in Maspeth Queens 20 years ago. Was going to get me a job there before they closed down and moved.
Haha, mate! Watching you play Super Mario was well stressful! I felt the vintage electronics ennui of that stuck tape! Hopefully the old helping hand is all that was required
Ah yes, _'Beautiful Thing'_ - I adore that movie...! Nice choice :)
lmao this thing is adorable. like an lcd version of those cute little b&w crts
Sometimes, I will just stand here and watch television for hours. I love it. I love this TV.
I've seen a million of these tiny TVs at goodwill, and this video is just making it harder for me to resist buying one...
I have a $30 Digital Labs 7" portable TV from 2003(?) that still works quite well, I can pick up nearly 50 stations with the builtin telescoping antenna (There is a port for coax). The Coby is larger and has many more ports on it, but the Digital Labs TV can almost fit in your pocket. If you ever see one of these I recommend picking it up. all the best, thanks for your videos, always informative and fun!
finally, a youtuber with a mario skill level similar to my own
Built-in follow-up video: "How to remove a jammed VHS tape from your VCR."
Useful, yes. I tested cable tv converters with one of these some 8 years ago. Testing was simple back then. If it plays, it stays. Enter a button sequence to erase the DVR recordings, wipe with simple green and send it.
Nice little monitor, and I love Beautiful Thing.
1:10 "There are no longer any analog TV stations..."
This still makes me sad. I was weird and really enjoyed watching the analog TV static. Found it meditative.
Also use VGA to VIDEO and UHF RF MODULATOR to test if this TV works on NTSC-J, NTSC, PAL-M (NTSC 3.575), PAL-Nc (PAL 3.582).. NTSC is 3.579 MHz video carrier color. Will not work with PAL (4.43) or SECAM (4.40/4.42).
We don't get much Coby things in the UK, but on holiday got a Coby portable CD player whilst on holiday. Worked pretty well but wasn't jog proof. We had a few 15" TV's with a similar design under brands like Alba, Mikomi etc. There was a Proline TV in silver that has a black bezel around the screen to almost make it look like a bigger display!
"Actually not terrible" would be a great review for a movie from a film critic.
"Actually not terrible." - Siskel & Ebert
:)
In fact, the panel with a resolution of 800x480 is ideal for displaying analog NTSC, because in this case you do not need vertical scaling, and each analog line corresponds to each line of pixels of the panel. Another question is whether the scaler is actually set up this way, and watching the vertical cropping tells me what they did wrong, trying to match the cropping of the image as on a CRT TV
It's good that it supports 240p composite video from an old game console. Some LCD TVs either interpret it as 480i video or cannot display 240p video at all, leaving a blank display. The 240p signal is just a tweaked 480i signal on order to trick a CRT TV to display 240p. 240p isn't officially a part of the NTSC specification therefore LCD TVs support 480i more than 240p.
The end is the best part. Of course they wanted beta to win! 😂
I've never seen a bezel that thick on a TV before. I love technology and I wish I could live forever to witness how things are going to change in the future
I saw how you took off the protective film (which is a crime in itself), but then it was back on in the next scene! Continuity court senteces you to 3 years in Minecraft streaming hell!
If you put the correct amps through it does the digital tuner pick up more channels? Just throwing it out there. Love the vids.
I do like my portable Colby LCD DVD player I found on the street. It did 5 years of good work for me as a preview monitor for video projection visuals/shows... Of course the dvd player was always stone-dead, so is it's strange battery. BUT the monitor works and it has a composite AV input (1/8"). Even working analog monitor controls! At first It had a yellow vertical line that went away with minimal massaging and never came back the whole time. For whatever reason it still works. And it's low enough resolution so it doesn't even need an s-video input!
Looks perfect for retro gaming lad. Nice!😊
These are awesome TVs to have on your workbench for testing old video cameras, VCRs, and game consoles. And if you accidentaly lose control of your screwdriver and put a hole through the panel, entirely new TVs are very cheap and easy to find.
I have a Medion MD82688 and a Tevion MD83688 (they are exactly the same TV), they're also a 10,4" LCD TVs, but with a superior set of interfaces. Namely, they have analog TV tuner, DVB-T tuner, Composite Video, S-Video, Component Video, RGB-SCART, Analog VGA, and HDMI. If that wasn't enough, they have a CI slot and SD/USB-Drive support.
7:50 The wonders of a video tape getting jammed, are something I'd love to forget.
Had one of these in my conversion van and a 12v VCR to match
I saw someone use a TV like this for a Raspberry Pi setup that they made in an old Macintosh. They emulated the original OS and made it look like a Mac, but it was just a cheap LCD driven by an older Pi. I guess if you wanted the vintage look, but not some of the hassles with older equipment, that would work.
at least that one has an active matrix panel, and for the little screen on the bezel given the e-waste manufactured by Coby, thats a pretty decent one and the menu is kinda retrofuturistic
Some monitors auto adjust kinda funny, especially with Windows 10 having a dark taskbar. Try opening the Google homepage (because it's white) and setting the browser to full screen, that's something I've always did when encountering VGA displays at work.
I'm really sorry for the loss of your VCR Mr.Kevin....
I have a "Digital Prism" 7" ATSC TV, and it has the same settings interface, and 800x480 resolution.
Beautiful Thing is indeed a Beautiful Thing
The only systems I can think of that used 800x480 resolutions were some of the Toshiba Librettos - the 100/110CT and the ff1100v. Those were 7.1" wide screen displays on Pentium MMX devices.
Eee pc 701 was 800x480
"Actually not terrible" is the highest praise Coby can expect.
I LOVED COBY electronics! I’d buy them just to see exactly what you were getting for the money. To my surprise, many of them performed well but had such poor quality control, that even dropping my COBY usb MP3 player onto a rug from a height of maybe 3 feet, rendered it useless. Same for a CD player that died after it slid off my sofa. I bought another one, and it still works very well except for a scratchy volume control. Any suggestions for that? I also have the surprisingly capable HD radio, the COBY HDR-700 designed by REVO. Yes, the small speaker sounds tinny, but it makes a great little HD receiver when used with an external speaker. I have another MP3 player from them, which I haven’t used in years, but it had incredibly good sound. More COBY products please!
Back in 2013 I had a bulky 10'' Coby Kyros Android tablet that my coworker mockingly called "The GPS". Coby had a talent to create those Frankenstein devices.
Not a bad TV for testing or playing vintage games consoles and computers. You're right - they did a 12" model too (TF-TV1212) with the same case but thinner bezels (not quite as thin as the badly photoshopped B&H image though). Quite a clever idea to reduce costs. Around the time where TV/DVD combi's were popular - so there's the TF-DVD1092 too.
For 2004 I'm more expecting everything to come in silver plastic, just like everything else that's released around the 2001-2004 time period.
I wonder if the tuner reception would be better with a power supply of the specified 3A power supply.
one use for this display could maybe be for some kind of security system, the low power consumption allowing it to be ran by a battery would be great for that kind of thing.
Cool
1:32 couldn't the power supply be pulling more power than it's rated for?
What’s the British film you’re playing in this video? Also what do you do with all of these TVs and tape decks you make videos of? Do you keep them or do they go back to Goodwill/A.N Other charity shop?
"Beautiful Thing"
The screen is similar to those in some portable DVD players, I believe, although maybe a little bigger. (Maybe some old laptops also). It *could* be possible to get the stand a little looser if there's a screw holding it in place, maybe it can be loosened slightly? Just a thought!📺
You could try using Custom Resolution Utility(CRU) to set a resolution that's native to the panel
@vwestlife I just shared an image with you on mastadon of a failed Coby TV power supply that I own, and the results of a metal oxide varistor vaporizing. Otherwise it was a neat little tv
I use the Curtis version at 21 inches and it’s pretty good to play games on. (I’m too cheap to throw it away until it dies)
I have a 13 inch version of this ... I use it when I am working on game consoles or computers at the bench, and yes the tuner sucks butt but its good enough as a side display for when im working on things (mine has component and HDMI but I bought it at a overstock store a decade or more ago for 60 bucks)
hey i recognize that on screen menu! I had a terrible Polaroid tv i got for cheap. I dont remember the TV size but the bezel was way smaller.. maybe 19" screen?. It had that same on screen menu and the tv tuner was also really bad. I bet they have similar guts. edit: i think it was actually a sharp brand tv. Ive had so many crappy tvs its hard to remember...
With how small it is, I'm amazed it has a VESA mount. Also, I'm not at all surprised the DTV tuner is horrible; I wonder if using an amplifier would help.
Thumbs up for Beautiful Thing 👍
when i was using a VGA cable for my monitor, the display gets "overscanned" or not calibrated properly when i using a dark wallpaper and using a dark theme as well, the only fix to "overscan" is using a light theme and light wallpaper and run the auto adjustment again..
Maybe try VGA auto sync with a white field or a raster box pattern on screen. It might get the size correctly.
Perhaps there's a secret/service menu where you can make more adjustments. Although I dunno if such a cheap TV would have one, and it didn't look like he had a remote.
Coincidently that’s my favorite movie too
Do you plan on doing some thrift shop videos again, like you did some years ago where you ran trough the stores with your camera and showed us various stuff that was on the shelves?
No, they now have signs saying that taking photos or video in the store is prohibited.
Thanks for another fun video. Something like this would be nice for perhaps an RV or campsite where things may get stolen. If they take it you're not out too much. Or something your kids could use too I suppose.
I have a small 7 inch portable LCD TV made by Digital Labs and the resolution is worst than your TV, 480x270. Has composite in and digital/analog RF in. I currently have it hooked up to Dish TV by RF and it's good enough for watching TV when I'm on the computer. The speakers are crap so I have a homemade thin panel speaker that I made from a stick on speaker that makes anything into a speaker. Sounds pretty good but is in mono.
This TV and the Nintendo mod that I saw to run it off AAA batteries and I will be the badass playing Super Mario around the fire at my next festival. Nice.
Inquiring minds want to know if you ultimately got your video tape back, and if the VCR might live to fight another day...
I was able to safely extract the tape by manually rotating the gear to unload the mechanism. But unfortunately the VCR is no longer properly functional. It will load and unload a cassette, but any tape movement makes scraping noises and strains the motor.
I have the Eviant T70C-05 which is smaller (7" 480x234) but similar to Coby in low quality & it has the same exact generic Settings GUI
And is the picture still cropped with the bezel off? Looks like the bezel goes over the LCD panel a bit.
I have a "Bush" brand TV with a built in DVD player which is 12v and AC too. The display size is much larger.
Technically, the analog tuner of the TV could be used with old consoles and computers, which don't have anything else than the RF modulator to output the signal.
Quick thought: the bad TV reception could be a side effect of the underpowerd power supply
Maybe it's possible to set the PC to the correct setting by creating a custom 800x480 resolution with something like custom resolution utility (CRU).
BTW what movie/show is that at the end?
Or basically any nvidia card
My current gen RTX card still lets me use custom resolutions with an old CRT with an HDMI to VGA adapter
640x480@160 totally works
@@iamdarkyoshi his pc doesn't have an nvidia card though
It's from the film "Touch of Pink".
@@langam7017 True, though if he's like me he'll have one lying around
Hi, what is the movie of the last scene? Looks like a funny movie for the weekend :)
"Touch of Pink"
My first LCD tv was a Kodak 15" display. Shame it stopped working.
Quite a nice TV/Monitor with a lot of specs. Nice dig at Sony at the wnd. 👍
It appears that the lcd uses a 60 pin (2x 30 pin) parallel rgb interface, so I would imagine that there's possibly higher resolution displays with that interface that would plug straight in and work.
It's not worth the money to do, but as an experiment it'd be interesting to see if the display controller can output to a native 1280x720 lcd (if one with that interface exists)
Cobbled together.
I used to have an MP3 player made by Coby. It wasn't very good, but it was all I had when I was a kid. Lol.
Starting at about 08:05 in this video:
Now THERE is a tune I REMEMBER WELL...😊
Yeah. I'm still surprised that cheap LCD TV's are still unsufferable in terms of everyday usage. but in this case, that cheap Coby TV seems to be interesting enough to use it in order to test computers ASAP (literally, NY kind of computer).
PS: 90's Sony VHS VCR's are still much better than 00's VHS VCR's from the same company. Even I'm still surprised how longlasting are the cheap VHS VCR's from Panasonic from early 00's since I rescued one from being throwed to the scrappy facilities.