Yeah, if you want a very accurate description, prayer drain is only skipped for a single tick after activating one or more prayers with no prior active prayers. The check is done when the server registers the prayer activation, meaning that deactivating prayers and activating them in a single tick still skips the first tick of drain, which enables 1-ticking. Lazy flicking one prayer while camping another still reduces prayer drain but not as much, it simply eliminates the drain from the off-ticks but not the on-ticks like if you had no other prayers on. Here's a small list of intricacies that implies: - If you have prayer A on, and turn on prayer B and then turn off A in the same tick, prayer drain is NOT skipped as there was never even a sub-tick moment where no prayers were active. - If you have prayer A on, and then turn on a mutually exclusive prayer B (e.g. two different protection prayers), prayer drain is NOT skipped because A automatically turning off effectively happens at the same time as B turns on, so no gap here either - If you have ONLY prayer(s) A on, and turn off A and then turn on prayer(s) B in the same tick, prayer drain IS skipped, because by the time the server registers you turning B on, all of the other prayers are inactive. No, I don't bring prayer pots to slayer tasks. Why do you ask?
It's still worth to flick your aggressive prayers (or just one of the prayers) - flick for the tick that you need it. It greatly reduces your prayer drain still. Even flicking Rigour every other tick with a blowpipe saves a lot of prayer even with a protection prayer on
@@gxhost It's not unrelated to what you are talking about in the video, it is full relevance. You are talking about flicking prayers while having a defensive prayer up, that is exactly what he is talking about as well. The only difference between you two is he's talking about prayer flicking and you are talking about 1tick flicking. You didn't need the second half of your comment, you come off as a douche for doing it imo.
Good you've learned this, better late than never! I learned this from watching giga gamers like DV8 in the inferno and Reed at Bandos back in the day. I was wondering why they were going out of their way to manually flick both offensives and overhead, then I investigated like you did and realised. I'm a numbers guy so I'll give some numbers on the drain rate of lazy flicking. Rigour is exactly twice the prayer drain of overheads, so if protect melee drain rate is 1, piety is 2. Camping overheads and rigour would be 3 drain, while camping overheads and lazy flicking rigour would be 1.4. Lazy flicking more than halves your prayer drain, but it does mean you don't gain the defences so keep that in mind. Another prayer related misconception: while augury raises your magic defence, piety and rigour *do not* raise your "melee/ranged defence" (these concepts don't exist in the same way it does for magic). All 3 prayers raise your defence by the same amount, but because of how magic is calculated, magic alone gets defensivie bonuses from offensive bonuses. Augury is always the best defensive prayer (or equal at worst) so you should only camp augury for tanking.
That is what I thought too for the longest time and found out during league that it has to be all or nothing. Years of this... and I found out about 5 days ago. Feels bad man.
I didn't know this. What about lazy flicking i.e. clicking the offensive prayer right as you attack and then leaving it off for the other 80% of the time?
crazy you call the last method you showed "lazy flicking" when in reality the 1tick constant flicking is way more lazy. go do an inferno run with the last method compared to constant 1tick flicking and let me know which one you think is more unbearable lol.
@@sueandweeze lol yeah I agree. I prefer double clicking during stuff like inferno. For slayer, or when I still had slayer levels to gain… I did a lot of lazy flicking.
Should have bought the super premium membership.
Don't get Jagex ideas lol
Premium membership that can auto flick or more likely, membership that lets you bind your prayers to the keyboard
@@Christopher-wg6ug they already have ideas from your lack of action towards this subject
Yeah, if you want a very accurate description, prayer drain is only skipped for a single tick after activating one or more prayers with no prior active prayers. The check is done when the server registers the prayer activation, meaning that deactivating prayers and activating them in a single tick still skips the first tick of drain, which enables 1-ticking. Lazy flicking one prayer while camping another still reduces prayer drain but not as much, it simply eliminates the drain from the off-ticks but not the on-ticks like if you had no other prayers on. Here's a small list of intricacies that implies:
- If you have prayer A on, and turn on prayer B and then turn off A in the same tick, prayer drain is NOT skipped as there was never even a sub-tick moment where no prayers were active.
- If you have prayer A on, and then turn on a mutually exclusive prayer B (e.g. two different protection prayers), prayer drain is NOT skipped because A automatically turning off effectively happens at the same time as B turns on, so no gap here either
- If you have ONLY prayer(s) A on, and turn off A and then turn on prayer(s) B in the same tick, prayer drain IS skipped, because by the time the server registers you turning B on, all of the other prayers are inactive.
No, I don't bring prayer pots to slayer tasks. Why do you ask?
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i figured this out quite some time ago and some people who were doing this were sure they were saving prayer untill they actually compared it
Bro I've been playing for nearly as long as you. I would have just stayed in denial 😂
Exact same boat as you, i thought you could do the same thing. Thanks for game knowledge!
It's still worth to flick your aggressive prayers (or just one of the prayers) - flick for the tick that you need it. It greatly reduces your prayer drain still. Even flicking Rigour every other tick with a blowpipe saves a lot of prayer even with a protection prayer on
You flick it on for 1 tick the moment the attack animation starts, maybe click it slightly before the animation begins
Ive only ever lazy flicked a damage prayer on top of a protection prayer, and I'm 99% sure it does work.
Yep Lazy Flicking works as you'd expect it to, though unrelated to what I'm talking about in the video
@@gxhost It's not unrelated to what you are talking about in the video, it is full relevance. You are talking about flicking prayers while having a defensive prayer up, that is exactly what he is talking about as well. The only difference between you two is he's talking about prayer flicking and you are talking about 1tick flicking. You didn't need the second half of your comment, you come off as a douche for doing it imo.
@@atrozzorta9602 I wasn't offended by it.
@@atrozzorta9602 no
@ Damn you got me!
I consider myself a fairly terrible player, apparently I can’t consistently count ticks
Good you've learned this, better late than never! I learned this from watching giga gamers like DV8 in the inferno and Reed at Bandos back in the day. I was wondering why they were going out of their way to manually flick both offensives and overhead, then I investigated like you did and realised.
I'm a numbers guy so I'll give some numbers on the drain rate of lazy flicking. Rigour is exactly twice the prayer drain of overheads, so if protect melee drain rate is 1, piety is 2. Camping overheads and rigour would be 3 drain, while camping overheads and lazy flicking rigour would be 1.4. Lazy flicking more than halves your prayer drain, but it does mean you don't gain the defences so keep that in mind.
Another prayer related misconception: while augury raises your magic defence, piety and rigour *do not* raise your "melee/ranged defence" (these concepts don't exist in the same way it does for magic). All 3 prayers raise your defence by the same amount, but because of how magic is calculated, magic alone gets defensivie bonuses from offensive bonuses. Augury is always the best defensive prayer (or equal at worst) so you should only camp augury for tanking.
That is what I thought too for the longest time and found out during league that it has to be all or nothing.
Years of this... and I found out about 5 days ago. Feels bad man.
Glad I'm not alone. Haha
@@gxhost thanks for posting this. Saving me a lot of effort moving forward
I didn't know this. What about lazy flicking i.e. clicking the offensive prayer right as you attack and then leaving it off for the other 80% of the time?
Oh I just finished the rest of the video and you answered this haha. Comment for algorithm I guess!
Ty I didn’t know this
good find
Wtf. Thousands of wasted clicks.
It says this very clearly on the wiki btw
that's great hon, here's a gold star ⭐keep that safe.
That's cool, I did not know this
omg i've been doing the same...
@@spyke098 :D
Honestly it hasn’t been detrimental at all… if anything we’ve just gotten locked TF in on prayer flick timing
Ahhhh crap. 😂
Vibes
Uhhhh lmao
lol you never knew that??
@@justinb8297 yeah idk why I just assumed. I think I always kinda knew but I never sat and tested it like this before lol
lol awfully perceptive of you
player who uses colored inventory tags discovers basic game mechanics.
@@drinkwater7393 ahh caught me haha. I turn on for raids and sometimes leave them on
i cant like this comment enough
harsh
crazy you call the last method you showed "lazy flicking" when in reality the 1tick constant flicking is way more lazy.
go do an inferno run with the last method compared to constant 1tick flicking and let me know which one you think is more unbearable lol.
@@sueandweeze lol yeah I agree. I prefer double clicking during stuff like inferno. For slayer, or when I still had slayer levels to gain… I did a lot of lazy flicking.
The fact that this is a necessary tactic is the reason end game pvm sucks.
When is it necessary? You can leave the prayers on and they’ll work perfectly fine.
This is not needed anywhere ingame.