This video is exactly why I said in a comment a day or so ago on a different video of yours that your videos are some of my favorites, or my absolute favorites, on photography. This is an outstanding illustration of the compression effect, along with a very understandable explanation of why it occurs. I thought I understood it before, but after watching this video it "clicked" in my brain even more. Thanks Mads!
Thank you Mads for another very informative video of how to differentiate between zooming/cropping and compressing of your compositions - great video :)
Great video, as usual. I appreciate your use of examples to explain your concepts, significantly adds to my understanding. Comprehensive and not too long.
This video provides the best explanation of the optical illusion of compression that I’ve ever heard and used some beautiful shots for demonstration. Thank you!
It's a bit pedantic though, don't you think? The illusion that he talks about is exactly what people mean when they use the term compression. A telephoto does make the distances between objects appear to be more compressed. That being said, it's an excellent video, I just found it funny him talking about how compression isn't a thing, then showing exactly what photographers mean when they say compression.
The compression effect occurs when you make the object or foreground the same size in the frame despite different focal lengths. Just zooming in is just cropping. The best way I find to explain it is the classic moon and church spire photograph. If you fill the frame using a wide angle lens with the spire, the moon will be a tiny point of light. If you stand far away from the spire and zoom in to again fill the frame, the spire will be the same size, but now the moon will have increased in size in the image and appear much closer to the spire. Basically, instead of standing close to the subject with the background far away, you’ve stood far from the subject and zoomed in, with the unavoidable effect that you’ve also zoomed into the background.
Your first sentence isn't always true. In your example of the moon and spire, it's true that you can create compression by moving farther away and using a longer focal length, but you could also do the exact opposite by moving closer and using a shorter focal length to keep the spire the same size. That's not a criticism of your description, but a comment on how easy it is to be inaccurate when trying to explain it briefly. The most important point is that compression is a function of our perception that results from perspective (in the artistic and spatial sense) and composition rather than from focal length. A long lens captures a narrower field of view, but with the same perspective as a wider lens, because perspective results from our observation point. Changing our observation point in any direction changes our perspective, and therefore the apparent position of everything in your field of view. Changing distance along the straight line between any two objects changes the relative distance between those objects and that changes the perceived distance between the objects. The real distance between the objects can remain the same, but by increasing our distance from the nearer subject we perceive the background as being closer to the foreground subject.
What you describe is a change of perspective, which happens when you change the point of view. You get the illusion of compression by cropping/zooming without changing the point of view.
Nice and informative video. I don't see any difference between someone saying it compresses the scene and you saying it gives the illusion of compression. Everyone knows the objects in the scene do not physically move so they know the compression is only in the image. If cropping gives the illusion of compression and people call it compression I'm not really sure what the difference is. Anyway best of luck to you
@@ForrestWest I know it's hard to believe, but there are actually people out there who thinks it's the lens that does the magic, that's why I make that distinction.
Maybe the best instruction video of this subject I have ever seen. Now I am going to have to go back and look at your other videos. Thank you so much for increasing my photography knowledge. Can't wait to get out and try some of this.
Great video Mads, and very timely - I've recently purchased a 2x convertor to use with my Sony 70-200 F2.8 and am just exploring how to use it for landscape shots. Thanks for the advice, most helpful.
As always, the best photo landscape videos on UA-cam. Thanks again Peter for sharing you extensive knowledge and personal insights. I only have about a dozen videos in my 'watch again' folder - this is now one of them.
You were a big help to me tonight, wanted to get a shot of the super moon at a local historical site and wanted to use a long lens. have very little experience with a long lens and night photography.Thanks, on my way.
Thank you! Another outstanding tutorial. I appreciate your time and talent shared with us. You represent the community of education quite well. Thanks again.
The illusion of compression totally makes sense and I just learned something new today. I just subbed love your way of teaching and the format of examples and the way you lay it all out. Thank you Mads 🙏
I've just got my 70-200 f2.8 and I am very grateful for this video! You have opened up a whole new world of photography for me! So many stories to create and share... Again, thank you for this one!
I love my 70/200 2.8 Il from canon, but now you gave me different idea how I can use it. I was doing portraits only with it. Thank you! I follow and learn from your skills and passion.
Thank you Mads ! You are a good teacher. As a amateur, I’ve begun to incorporate your instructions in my photos, with pleasing results! Would love to see more photos from Denmark. My paternal grandfather was born there. Your photos give me a sense of connection to my family history. Thank you so much!
This focal length range is gold and best for landscape. I bought the Sony zeiss 16-35 f4 thinking it will be a good landsacape and architecture lens which it is . But I think the 70-200 open up my creativity more. That's it. I am not saving up for any more lens now except the 70-200 mm .
Thank you Mads! Awesome video, you brought up some points I had not considered before. Thank you for making this video, your photography is an inspiration!
Thank you. Your channel is truly one of the most useful, informative and helpful for those of us who aspire to capture better travel images wherever we go.
Very informative. I just bought a Tamron 70-200mm f2.8 for my Nikon F mount DSLRs. Was mainly using for sports, but going to practice now on landscapes and get more out of the lens.
I appreciate you bringing up compression, it seems to be a commonly touted misconception. It's not the lens itself, as you say, it's about the distance between you and your subject relative to the background and the effect happens only if the distance between you and your subject changes to compensate.
Wow what a brilliant explanation of the value of the 70 - 200 telephoto. I've had one for years for use at music events but I can't wait to get out into the landscape and use it! Thanks so much for this informative video!!
Wow. Just wow. I’ve always been a proponent for telephoto landscape, even while receiving backlash saying that wide angle is the only way to do so. This description you provide is the exact same way I feel about it. Isolating aspects for detail instead of an overload. Very well said and thank you for this video!
Exquisite landscape photography, learnt so much about composing and exposure technique that gave impetus to these charming photographs! Looking forward to know more about exploitation of landscape techniques!
Lots of points to remember going forward elucidated with easy to understand in depth explanation. Have subscribed and am looking forward to exploring your channel. Your shots are absolutely gorgeous and im excited to learn from someone with such an eye. Cheers
Once again Mads a well thought out and presented video.. that helps those with questions gain further knowledge in this sometimes baffling world of lens...have seriously loved your series on the Faroe Islands and all of the majestic landscapes ....still waiting to be explored...looking forward to your coming videos and the thoughts shared within...stay blessed
I’m visiting Iceland early May for two days on my way to Scotland and I will be sure to include my remote shutter release to include myself in some long tele photos. Great photos, I’ve just subscribed to your channel and will check out your other videos.
Good point on using a telephoto lens to bring details out when you are traveling. I used to think landscape photos were only taken with wide angle lens. Good video
This video is exactly why I said in a comment a day or so ago on a different video of yours that your videos are some of my favorites, or my absolute favorites, on photography. This is an outstanding illustration of the compression effect, along with a very understandable explanation of why it occurs. I thought I understood it before, but after watching this video it "clicked" in my brain even more. Thanks Mads!
Awesome, Mads. Super informative. Simplifying complex concepts is a skill as is educating people - thank-you!
Thank you Mads for another very informative video of how to differentiate between zooming/cropping and compressing of your compositions - great video :)
Thank you. You have a great way of explaining these concepts
Great video, as usual. I appreciate your use of examples to explain your concepts, significantly adds to my understanding. Comprehensive and not too long.
Thanks!
You are a fantastic teacher. Many thanks for the tutorial👍👍👍
Your personal favorites collection is marvelous!
This video provides the best explanation of the optical illusion of compression that I’ve ever heard and used some beautiful shots for demonstration. Thank you!
It's a bit pedantic though, don't you think? The illusion that he talks about is exactly what people mean when they use the term compression. A telephoto does make the distances between objects appear to be more compressed.
That being said, it's an excellent video, I just found it funny him talking about how compression isn't a thing, then showing exactly what photographers mean when they say compression.
The compression effect occurs when you make the object or foreground the same size in the frame despite different focal lengths. Just zooming in is just cropping. The best way I find to explain it is the classic moon and church spire photograph. If you fill the frame using a wide angle lens with the spire, the moon will be a tiny point of light. If you stand far away from the spire and zoom in to again fill the frame, the spire will be the same size, but now the moon will have increased in size in the image and appear much closer to the spire. Basically, instead of standing close to the subject with the background far away, you’ve stood far from the subject and zoomed in, with the unavoidable effect that you’ve also zoomed into the background.
I totally agree with you. And I also believe that the no deforming of the lines (from tele lenses) helps the compression effect.
Your first sentence isn't always true. In your example of the moon and spire, it's true that you can create compression by moving farther away and using a longer focal length, but you could also do the exact opposite by moving closer and using a shorter focal length to keep the spire the same size. That's not a criticism of your description, but a comment on how easy it is to be inaccurate when trying to explain it briefly.
The most important point is that compression is a function of our perception that results from perspective (in the artistic and spatial sense) and composition rather than from focal length. A long lens captures a narrower field of view, but with the same perspective as a wider lens, because perspective results from our observation point. Changing our observation point in any direction changes our perspective, and therefore the apparent position of everything in your field of view. Changing distance along the straight line between any two objects changes the relative distance between those objects and that changes the perceived distance between the objects. The real distance between the objects can remain the same, but by increasing our distance from the nearer subject we perceive the background as being closer to the foreground subject.
What you describe is a change of perspective, which happens when you change the point of view. You get the illusion of compression by cropping/zooming without changing the point of view.
I love the 70-200mm f2.8 and is definitely in my bag at all times ready for use.
Your photos are breath-taking! You are a master of your art and I really appreciate seeing your tutorials.
landscapes with telephoto lenses make much more drama. I love it!
Not necessarily but for the right scene it's highly beneficial ;)
Hi you have opened my eyes. I now have a better understanding of how to use my 70-200 thank you
You're very welcome, Mark :)
Nice and informative video. I don't see any difference between someone saying it compresses the scene and you saying it gives the illusion of compression. Everyone knows the objects in the scene do not physically move so they know the compression is only in the image. If cropping gives the illusion of compression and people call it compression I'm not really sure what the difference is. Anyway best of luck to you
@@ForrestWest I know it's hard to believe, but there are actually people out there who thinks it's the lens that does the magic, that's why I make that distinction.
@@MadsPeterIversen good point and great ideas for my 70200
Keep up the good work Mads. Always enjoy your videos
Terrific videos Mads, really enjoying them, thank you.
Thank you. I’m heading to Iceland this May. I’m renting a 70-200 lens for this trip. Thanks for your insight.
Maybe the best instruction video of this subject I have ever seen. Now I am going to have to go back and look at your other videos. Thank you so much for increasing my photography knowledge. Can't wait to get out and try some of this.
Thank you very much, Mark! That means a lot :)
Great video Mads, and very timely - I've recently purchased a 2x convertor to use with my Sony 70-200 F2.8 and am just exploring how to use it for landscape shots. Thanks for the advice, most helpful.
Did you do this and how did it work out?
As always, the best photo landscape videos on UA-cam. Thanks again Peter for sharing you extensive knowledge and personal insights. I only have about a dozen videos in my 'watch again' folder - this is now one of them.
Thank you very much! :)
You were a big help to me tonight, wanted to get a shot of the super moon at a local historical site and wanted to use a long lens. have very little experience with a long lens and night photography.Thanks, on my way.
I thought I knew what I was doing with zoom lenses until seeing this. Awesome subscribed!
Thank you! Another outstanding tutorial. I appreciate your time and talent shared with us. You represent the community of education quite well. Thanks again.
The illusion of compression totally makes sense and I just learned something new today. I just subbed love your way of teaching and the format of examples and the way you lay it all out. Thank you Mads 🙏
Many many thanks for such an informative and helpful video
I've just got my 70-200 f2.8 and I am very grateful for this video! You have opened up a whole new world of photography for me! So many stories to create and share... Again, thank you for this one!
Your photos are always outstanding and the videos are so well done.
Thank you, Nina! That's what I strive for :)
You have to be the best teacher on UA-cam. Out standing.
Wow! So impressive, you show how wonderfull is our world.
7:00 and 7:30 are both great photos, and great examples of what you're describing.
Great information and visually stunning images. Well done Mads !!!
Mads, this is in my opinion, one of your best tutorial videos! I will certainly try what you have taught here! Bravo mate, well done!
That scene at 0:45 absolutely blows my mind, almost unreal.
Fantastic explanation, AMAZING pictures and a new subscriber (me).
Thanks a lot! And welcome aboard, loads of vids to dig through :)
@@MadsPeterIversen it's gonna be a binge weekend that's for sure ;)
Thanks for the great video! Your work is beautiful and inspirational!
'SUUUMING IN'. loved this video, great job!
Thanks so much for the very clear & helpful presentation.
An excellent tutorial. Very valuable indeed. Thanks Mads for your time and education. And your images? Fantastic.
I love my 70/200 2.8 Il from canon, but now you gave me different idea how I can use it. I was doing portraits only with it. Thank you! I follow and learn from your skills and passion.
Thank you Mads ! You are a good teacher. As a amateur, I’ve begun to incorporate your instructions in my photos, with pleasing results! Would love to see more photos from Denmark. My paternal grandfather was born there. Your photos give me a sense of connection to my family history. Thank you so much!
Thank you very much, Cindy! I'll definitely make more videos from Denmark :)
Very beautiful photographs, and very helpful information. Thank you for doing this.
Oh your photos are incredible!!! Total love!
Exceptional video! Highly informative! Thank you!
This focal length range is gold and best for landscape. I bought the Sony zeiss 16-35 f4 thinking it will be a good landsacape and architecture lens which it is . But I think the 70-200 open up my creativity more. That's it. I am not saving up for any more lens now except the 70-200 mm .
Thanks for good work...enjoyed very much.
I love this. Always wanted to know how the focal distance worked when photographing vastness of nature!
This is one of the beset videos I've seen
Thank you for your tipps and suggestions! Very helpful and inspiring.
I know that I come a bit late as the video came out 2 years ago ... But WOW, just wow. Fantastic job, video and knowledge!
Thank you very much! 😊
Another Master Class from a Classy Master! Thank you Sir!
Thank you Mads! Awesome video, you brought up some points I had not considered before. Thank you for making this video, your photography is an inspiration!
Thanks a lot, Michael! Happy to hear I brought something new :)
Thank you. Your channel is truly one of the most useful, informative and helpful for those of us who aspire to capture better travel images wherever we go.
Very informative. I just bought a Tamron 70-200mm f2.8 for my Nikon F mount DSLRs. Was mainly using for sports, but going to practice now on landscapes and get more out of the lens.
Thanks Mads for the review of this information I have only recently started back into photography after decades of being away
This was awesome to watch, I found it really interesting with some truly amazing photos as well.
Thanks for sharing, great tips. I’m looking forward to trying them especially with spring around the corner and some new waterfalls to try.
This felt like a master class. Thanks a lot!
Very technical but made easy to understand with your examples! Thanks mads.
Thanks a lot, man! 😊
Mads, i really enjoy watching your videos. More than I could possibly describe in a youtube comment. Keep doing your thing man, you're killing it.
Thank you so very much! Means a lot 😊
Very informative Mads! Thanks for a great video!
After a lot of research and soul searching I bought this lens. I enjoyed your video on the many uses I can get out of this beauty of a lens.
Very very interesting and useful video! Such nice pics and good advice ! many thanks Mads !
Thank you, I gain more indepth into the the zooming landscape
Those images are really nicely balanced. I enjoy your editing style as well. 👍🏼
Beautiful video and pictures again. Thank you for inspiration.
Very nice I enjoyed it. I love my long lenses for landscape too. Now to include people!
Very good video! Excellent explanation of compression effects and such. Looking forward to seeing more like this
Awesome, thank you! Happy to hear that :)
Wow ... that is an impressive use of the focal length .. thx a lot
Great video, super helpful.
I appreciate you bringing up compression, it seems to be a commonly touted misconception. It's not the lens itself, as you say, it's about the distance between you and your subject relative to the background and the effect happens only if the distance between you and your subject changes to compensate.
Thank you for the class.
Wow what a brilliant explanation of the value of the 70 - 200 telephoto. I've had one for years for use at music events but I can't wait to get out into the landscape and use it! Thanks so much for this informative video!!
You're very welcome! I have more plans for mine too ;)
Wow. Just wow. I’ve always been a proponent for telephoto landscape, even while receiving backlash saying that wide angle is the only way to do so. This description you provide is the exact same way I feel about it. Isolating aspects for detail instead of an overload. Very well said and thank you for this video!
You're much welcome! You need new friend if they say wide-angle is the only way to go :P
Such a great explanation of using focal length and "compression" for landscape. Phenomenal photo as well
Superb pics and an excellent video explaining the zoom perspective for landscape photos !
Simple, effective and very informative video Mads. Thank you.
Another fantastic vlog Mads - fascinating and illustrated by some stunning shots!
Exquisite landscape photography, learnt so much about composing and exposure technique that gave impetus to these charming photographs! Looking forward to know more about exploitation of landscape techniques!
Amazing video, amazing tips and amazing photos!!!! thanks!!!!
You have a great way of explaining things. I look forward to your future videos.
So informative man, thanks for a great video! Oh and some really stunning photos ;)
Thank you so much! Very happy to hear that :)
Superb!!
Thank you for sharing these insights
Lots of points to remember going forward elucidated with easy to understand in depth explanation. Have subscribed and am looking forward to exploring your channel.
Your shots are absolutely gorgeous and im excited to learn from someone with such an eye. Cheers
Amazing pics, Mads! Congratulations!
Once again Mads a well thought out and presented video.. that helps those with questions gain further knowledge in this sometimes baffling world of lens...have seriously loved your series on the Faroe Islands and all of the majestic landscapes ....still waiting to be explored...looking forward to your coming videos and the thoughts shared within...stay blessed
You're very welcome, Isabella. Also very happy you enjoyed my Faroes videos :)
Wow Thanks for sharing this very informative it literally made me pick up a lens and shoot again after 10 years
Thank you for this very helpful explanation of longer focal lengths in landscape photography. You have a new follower.
You're welcome, welcome aboard 😊
Great explanations! Thank you.
I love all of your images and instructional content! Thanks for taking the time to do this.
You're very welcome! :)
Finally getting my RF 70-200 tomorrow and I'm beyond excited! Great video with some different perspectives that I think will be fantastic!
Great someone who talks sense about perspective. Some great photos as well
Wonderful work, awesome information!
Wow. You're such a talented photographer. I just started with photography about a year ago and I hope to be as good as you one day.
Absolutely stunning and informative.
Excellent !
I’m visiting Iceland early May for two days on my way to Scotland and I will be sure to include my remote shutter release to include myself in some long tele photos. Great photos, I’ve just subscribed to your channel and will check out your other videos.
Welcome aboard, Ernest. The remote is a very good solution :)
Good point on using a telephoto lens to bring details out when you are traveling. I used to think landscape photos were only taken with wide angle lens. Good video
Wow... Brand New perspective for me. I will try it.
another food for thought!
Really enjoyed this video - great job!
Great informative video, wonderful shots as well!
This video is so so helpful, Thank you very much!!! Your photos are beautiful! greets from Austria